What Car Do You Own?

[caLume]

hi :)

in regarding that i bought now my first car.
this thread :D

me is driving a mitsubishi colt ('98) 75ps.

pics will follow :)


and whats ur car?

[Chipmonk]

1999 BMW 735i with a 4.4ltr 410 bhp ex diplomatic car and all the trimmings + i am also in the market for something else because 10 - 20 mpg aint good at current price levels.

[Rippthrough]

1989 405 T16.
Truimph GT6 (still undergoing restoration)
Couple of others of no real acclaim.

[tinker77]

98 corolla :rolleyes:

[Mr_Slinky]

i drive a 94 Pontiac Sundird but soon to be a 97 Olds Cutlass

[Stewie007]

2000 Grand Prix GT ^_^

Although the blue one is gonna be my next one :p GXP 5.3 V8 with Displacement on Demand >=) Not to mention its a jazzed up GTP. Even better ^_^

[nebuchanezzar]

89 Maxima with over 230,000 miles and still going. I'm gonna drive this one til the wheels fall off :D

[conrad.maranan]

2005 BMW 530i, similar to the image you see in my avatar. I also have a 1999 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab that's in dire need of a new engine. :(


89 Maxima with over 230,000 miles and still going. I'm gonna drive this one til the wheels fall off :D
You'll be driving that car for a long time before the wheels fall off. Those old school Maximas last forever (especially the engine).

[mdzcpa]

2004 Mercury Marauder
It's Big, Black, and real Bad!!!

It comes stock with 320 HP V8 DOHC "Cobra" motor, 3.55 Posi, true dual exhuast, all wrapped up in a Luxury trim with all the amenities....yummy!

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_1.jpg

This is my daily ride which absolutely requires the ability to haul the entire family around, double as my "executive look" car for work, and scratch the very intense muscle car performance itch I have. It's the only car that foot the bill.

Of course I've modded it:D

13.5 PSI Eaton Supercharger (fully intercooled of course)
Kooks headers and custom 2.5" exhaust
FMS 4.10 gears
Eaton 31 Spline differential
Custom 31 Spline axles
Shift kit

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_2.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_13.jpg

Its all good for 500+ HP and 12.1 Qtr mile times @ 114. Of course its refined enough that you can drink tea in it while you drive and not spill a drop on the leather. She's a daily driver in good weather. An F-150 covers me in the bad stuff.

[conrad.maranan]

Sweet Marauder. There are several coppers in my division that drive the same car, though not as suped up as your ride. 12.1 for a "family car" is insane. :slobber: Are you running stock internals in the block, or have you bullet-proofed your bottom end to handle the PSI?

[mdzcpa]

Are you running stock internals in the block, or have you bullet-proofed your bottom end to handle the PSI?

Right now the short block is stock and the heads/cams untouched. Although I'm getting to the edge reliability wise, with the right tune, these modular motors can make some serious power. The weak link in these motors is the pistons which can lose a ring landing under duress. The key is to have a safe enough tune to prevent detonation (pre ignition). If you can do that, you can run about 500hp safely.

If or when the motor goes, I'll be ready. You play you pay when you get heavy mods.

What's killer about the car is the docile nature if you can keep your foot out of it. Here's a few more good shots:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_7.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_12_full.jpg

[mdzcpa]

EDIT- I thought some of you guys mike like this too. Its a link to one of my dyno runs. Neat if you like that sort of thing:)

500HP Marauder Dyno Run (http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/694Mike_1.MOV)

[conrad.maranan]

Do you have any dyno graphs? Other than the shift kit, has your tranny been modified in any way? I'm really liking your ride, man. We can go at this all day since I'm a Ford guy. I used to have a '66 Mustang with a K-Code 289 that put out 450hp @ 6,000RPM and almost 750hp when I hit the switch for the bottle. I had major traction problems with that car since my frame was factory stock. I had some ladder bars, but that wasn't a big help.

[Rippthrough]

Right now the short block is stock and the heads/cams untouched. Although I'm getting to the edge reliability wise, with the right tune, these modular motors can make some serious power. The weak link in these motors is the pistons which can lose a ring landing under duress. The key is to have a safe enough tune to prevent detonation (pre ignition). If you can do that, you can run about 500hp safely.



:slobber:
Forged pistons + rods, billet crank.Lighter and better balanced, but...
MORE BOOST CAPT'N! WOOHOO. :D :banana:
Very nice car. What head gasket you running? Stock?

[TekXoID]

2005 Ford Mustang GT...fully stock for now...

Extremely tight car, mdzcpa!

[mdzcpa]

Do you have any dyno graphs? Other than the shift kit, has your tranny been modified in any way? I'm really liking your ride, man. We can go at this all day since I'm a Ford guy. I used to have a '66 Mustang with a K-Code 289 that put out 450hp @ 6,000RPM and almost 750hp when I hit the switch for the bottle. I had major traction problems with that car since my frame was factory stock. I had some ladder bars, but that wasn't a big help.

Here's a dyno shot:
http://home.comcast.net/~mdzcpa/photos/mm/dyno.JPG

HP and TQ are at the rear wheel on the chassis dyno. Actual numbers at the block are roughly 15% higher. Also, the dyno shot is with 91 octane pump gas. When I run 103 Octane race gas, you can add another 40hp and 30tq to the numbers. I have a flip switch in the car that bumps the tune aggressively when I run race gas:D

What's really great about the power production on this set up is the awesome TQ. Over 400 ft lbs from 3300 to 5500. That's enough to snap your head off and drop it in the back seat from a 30mph roll:D

The tranny is stock aside from the shift kit. The shift kit just firms up the 1-2 shift for more durability at WOT shifts.

Other mods include a Pro-M 80mm mass air meter, upgraded fuel system to support the blower, a full set of autometer guage pods in the :banana::banana::banana::banana:pit, widened factory rear rims (to except the Nitto Drag Radials), and a few other bits.

Cheers to another Ford man :toast: Sounds like your 66 was areal bad azz!

[mdzcpa]

2005 Ford Mustang GT...fully stock for now...

Extremely tight car, mdzcpa!

Thanks.

An 05 Mustang is pretty tight as well. I love the new looks and those things are darn fast off the showroom floor as well. That 3 valve motor roxors :toast:

[Disposibleteen]

lol, all of you guys bragging about your great cars, im not even going to post pics or anythingof mine. Ive got a 1994 Buick Regal. 185000 miles and still humming. It alrgiht though im only 17

[FallenAngel]

Perhaps you dont like cars, myself and many others love it.

My car is a Golf III 16V 150PS, my next car will be an Audi A4 1.8 Turbo Quattro or BMW 330i (240PS)

[mdzcpa]

lol, all of you guys bragging about your great cars, im not even going to post pics or anythingof mine. Ive got a 1994 Buick Regal. 185000 miles and still humming. It alrgiht though im only 17

LOL...I didn't have a pot to piss in when i was 17:D

I hope you guys don't take my posts as bragging....its more like a pride thing. I come from VERY humble beginnings and have worked awefully hard for what I have:)

[Gabriel7]

Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6 16V.

[FallenAngel]

LOL...I didn't have a pot to piss in when i was 17:D

I hope you guys don't take my posts as bragging....its more like a pride thing. I come from VERY humble beginnings and have worked awefully hard for what I have:)
Likewise

[JSU]

Pontiac GTO (voxel monaro) with around 3600mi on it.

[Stewie007]

New Pontiac GTO?

I think they could have done better... The front fascia looks good, but I hate the back... the 05 is an improvement, but all in all it could be way better.

I think the problem is its an American Muscle car NOT designed by American engineers.

[caLume]

just took a fast pic :)
hifi stuff is also waitin for the installation :D

http://wmt.e-tv.t-bn.de/ondemand/e-tv/ondemand/tvtotal/2005/03/14/0694-00-07-wm_midband.wmv

[Disposibleteen]

Perhaps you dont like cars, myself and many others love it.

My car is a Golf III 16V 150PS, my next car will be an Audi A4 1.8 Turbo Quattro or BMW 330i (240PS)
its not that i dont like them, i would love to have a new Mazda RX-8 but i just cannot afford it

[conrad.maranan]

What's really great about the power production on this set up is the awesome TQ. Over 400 ft lbs from 3300 to 5500. That's enough to snap your head off and drop it in the back seat from a 30mph roll:D
That's a nice power curve you have there. Your torque is nice and flat.


The tranny is stock aside from the shift kit. The shift kit just firms up the 1-2 shift for more durability at WOT shifts.
It's amazing what a few little ball bearings, some springs, and some gaskets can do for regulating the flow of tranny fluid, resulting in the firming up of those shifts. Shift kits rock. ;) I know you already have 4.10 gears, so the requirement for a higher stall speed torque convertor isn't an uber-necessary deal unless you'd like to get right into the sweetspot of your torque output off the line. However, if you ever feel like pullin' off some wheelies from a stoplight, I'd look into the higher stall convertor.


Other mods include a Pro-M 80mm mass air meter, upgraded fuel system to support the blower, a full set of autometer guage pods in the :banana::banana::banana::banana:pit, widened factory rear rims (to except the Nitto Drag Radials), and a few other bits.

Cheers to another Ford man :toast: Sounds like your 66 was areal bad azz!
What are your plans to break into the 11s? I'm coming over with a blown big block 460 and we're gonna gut your car out this weekend. Might as well weld some tubs in while we're at it. :D

Cheers!
:toast:

[mdzcpa]

LOL...yeah, that would be fun!

All kidding aside, I haven't sprung for the torque converter due to the degraded OEM feeling that comes with it. These cars respond with jerky/lurchy feeling with a higher stall. I know a few Marauder guys with the stall and they did indeed pick up some nice gains with a looser Stallion converter. But I just don't like the feel for normal street driving. Not to mention I love the smooth low end launch on the street when I'm not at WOT. Compromises, compromises:)

To get into the 11's all I need is my new gas tune. That should put me over. If not, I'll be hitting it with a 50 shot!

[conrad.maranan]

If not, I'll be hitting it with a 50 shot!
Might as well make it a direct port 100 shot plumbed straight to the runners of your manifold. I don't know how much of a lead foot you are, but a 10-pound bottle would last me two days at the most. I had a hard time keeping my finger off of the trigger.

[mdzcpa]

With race gas and tune, a 50 shot is all I have left before the motor grenades:) With race gas tune and a 50 shot we'll be talking about 600+hp on a stock block. I'm not afraid to put the money into the motor...but I'm not that anxious either:D

The NO2 on this set up is a dry system that connects after the mass air meter, but before the blower. It cools the compressor down that way.

There is only one other blown/Nos Marauder in the country and he's running 11.57s. Basically my set up plus NOS. No gutting of the car. Every bell and whistle intact. Simply amazing for a 4200lb boat!

[redgoo]

2004 Acura TSX - stock for now... beginning to think it will be stock forever as hondata just announced there will be no programmable ECU :(

[caLume]

new pics :)

[WesM63]

Mike, you know i've always loved your car!

ME:
1989 Pontiac Grand AM SE Turbo (POS, Paid $150 for it 2yrs ago, still runs like a champ)
1986 Porsche 944 Turbo (Engine fire, looking for a 16v DOHC motor + Boost)
1987 Porsche 944 Turbo (APE Stage II Chips, Exhaust, K&N, Apillar pod guage, 17" Boxster rims, 15psi boost)
2000 Chevy Blazer ZR2 (Stock, Black on Black. The daily driver)

Some Pics (First is the 86 with the 17" Boxster rims, 2nd is the 87)

[mdzcpa]

Hey Wes, nice to hear from you my friend:)

LOL...yeah I stepped up the Marauder even more since the last time you were in it. Added about another 70RWHP which should put me into the 11s now:D

That's a mighty fins "stable" of Porches you have going there! When did you get number 2?

[lutjens]

My car...

http://www.geocities.com/lutjens01/carpics/frontdrv.jpg

More pics here:

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46987&page=2&pp=25


I may increase the power level on my car, but it's fast enough for me right now...and I like having a warranty.:)


mdzcpa, nice car.:toast:

Some people have swapped their Marauder engines for the stronger Cobra's...something to consider if your engine should begin to complain.;)

BTW, I read MM&FF also...some good tech stuff in there (a little too much drag racing for my tastes, though).

[caLume]

nice car :eek:

isn that right expensive ? ^^

[WesM63]

Hey Wes, nice to hear from you my friend:)

LOL...yeah I stepped up the Marauder even more since the last time you were in it. Added about another 70RWHP which should put me into the 11s now:D

That's a mighty fins "stable" of Porches you have going there! When did you get number 2?


Mike,
Hmm suppose i'll have to come up for a ride sometime ;)

I picked up #2 and the Blazer about 2months ago. The Grand Am is dyeing a slow death and just wasn't reliable anymore. The Blazer is nice with only 50k miles. #2 had a fuel rail fire which these cars are notorious for, its a work in progress and will most likely end up begin a track car. (PCA, SCCA, DE).

Anywho, here is a shot of the blazer from today, finally starting to get nice out.

[snq]

My list of cars, sorted by age :)
- 1975 Volvo 244DL 2.1L
- 1981 Volvo 245 2.3L
- 1982 Volvo 244 2.3L
- 1982 Vaz Niva 4x4 1.6L "slightly" modified :D
- 1983 Volvo 244 2.1L

My previous cars:
- 1972 MB 220D 2.4L diesel
- 1973 MB 220 2.2L
- 1975 Volvo 240DL 2.0L
- 1976 MB 200 2.0L

And I've had my drivers license for less than 2 years :D

[oublie]

Cars i've owned

1965 Morris Minor with 2.0 twincam engine (approx 200bhp i was young and stupid)
1982 Ford Fiesta rust bucket (i was older and skint)
1987 Renault 11 turbo (junk junk junk)
1977 VW cal look beetle (i was living in cyprus by the sea)
1990s Vauxhaull Senator 3.0 (gas guzzler)
2000s Vauxhaull Omega 3.0 (smooth but gas guzzler)
2002 Renault clio sport 2.0 16v 172hp (pocket rocket)
2005 same but looking.

[pAGanO]

Hi man, this is my car

http://www.tuning-italia.it/public/34/Pontinia1.jpg

http://www.tuning-italia.it/public/34/Pontinia2.jpg

[fireblade]

you should post in dreamcar's thread :slobber:

[XiN]

VW Polo 1.4 16V (2003) :)

[jaawood]

1999 Chevy Silverdao, ext. cab short bed. Quality, reliablility, like a rock.

[Crankster]

mdzcpa i am impressed. Very much so even.
I'd like to hear your story some day, i mean since you said you worked your way up.
:toast: To the cars :D

[VSpecII]

...
Some people have swapped their Marauder engines for the stronger Cobra's...
As in the SC46, C469, or C460? I know they should all fit (as the block is identical in everything but materials), I was just wondering which is more common.
_____

Anyway, I USED to own a '91 LX 5.0 (T-5), with NT-555's, borla catback, mid-length headers, Edelbrock Performer Intake, #18 cams, Cobra-R brake conversion, and was saving up for a Vortech supercharger. It got owned by a Chevy half-ton. Right now I'm a POS auto '89 - still a LX, and saving for a Cobra. I'll be pretty much re-assemballing it from the ground up so basically any IRS New-Edge Cobra (99-04).

[mdzcpa]

mdzcpa i am impressed. Ver much so even.
I'd like to hear your story some day, i mean since you said you worked your way up.
:toast: To the cars :D

Thank you :)

[charlie]

2004 Mercury Marauder
It's Big, Black, and real Bad!!!

It comes stock with 320 HP V8 DOHC "Cobra" motor, 3.55 Posi, true dual exhuast, all wrapped up in a Luxury trim with all the amenities....yummy!

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_1.jpg

This is my daily ride which absolutely requires the ability to haul the entire family around, double as my "executive look" car for work, and scratch the very intense muscle car performance itch I have. It's the only car that foot the bill.

Of course I've modded it:D

13.5 PSI Eaton Supercharger (fully intercooled of course)
Kooks headers and custom 2.5" exhaust
FMS 4.10 gears
Eaton 31 Spline differential
Custom 31 Spline axles
Shift kit

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_2.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_13.jpg

Its all good for 500+ HP and 12.1 Qtr mile times @ 114. Of course its refined enough that you can drink tea in it while you drive and not spill a drop on the leather. She's a daily driver in good weather. An F-150 covers me in the bad stuff.

What a freekin BEAST, I love it :slobber:

C

[Poki]

I still have my 91 MX5 but to be honest, i can barely drive it on the streets in Michigan anymore (the roads are getting really bad here). I modded pretty much everything in the suspension/chassis for driving in the metro Atlanta area and X-cross without any consideration of moving back to Michigan. The roads around mid-Michigan are so bad now i need a kidney belt to drive for very long even with the spring perches up around stock height and full soft the KYB shocks. (You ford guys need one of these 1,800lb chassis to play with)
I tossed in the only pic of my last noteworthy SUV a 98 Wrangler just for the heck of it. Kinda wish i still had it now just to get around.

[w4r_m4chin3]

http://www.webstorms.net/Images/car/Untitled-1.jpg
'95 Eagle Summit DL - the car no one has ever heard of...

It's my first car, so don't expect too much.

It's got about 130-140 horsepower to the front wheels, transmitted through a 5-Speed Manual, and weighs in at ~2500 pounds. A surprising amount of jump for a "micro-van." I haven't pushed it to the top speed yet, but I've heard people with the exact same car were able to hit 250 KPH (~155 MPH). I find that hard to believe. I've hit 60MPH in second gear once, but I'm not even sure what the RPM was because it's got no tachometer! My friend took off at 3rd gear once, and on a leveled road. To my great surprise, it pulled it off without stalling, but the smell of the roasted clutch stayed in the car for days, it was wonderful. :D

Everything in the car except for the headunit and speakers are stock. I replaced the cassette player and horrible 5w speakers with a Sony head-unit and generic 440w pounders. They deliver a suprising amount of bang for just 4 satellites with no sub or amp.

[ca1n]

57 chevy
03 civic
03 honda cbr600rr

[angrysquirrel]

'88 Mercedes 190e 2.3 Liter I4 130hp

I love this car but I'm looking for something better: 88' 190e-16 I4 167hp :D

[sllywhtboy]

ha! another detroit xs folk. nice car mdzcpa!

my car is a 02 neon r/t. all i've slapped into it is a sq-class competition capable system, some new shoes, 24pt adjustable struts, shorter & stiffer springs, CAI, muffler, and hot PCM (ECU for everyone else who's non chrysler'ified)

http://sllywhtboy.dyndns.org:81/gallery/album16/P6050077
http://sllywhtboy.dyndns.org:81/gallery/album16/P6050065

here's all the stereo pics & such.. http://sllywhtboy.dyndns.org:81/gallery/album18

[Mangar]

I am a truck guy, here is my ride...

[Smokin_Joe]

My 2000 Suzuki Grand Vitara...and little boy that wants to go home. :p:

[Soulburner]

1999 Grand Prix GT

Not the best pic but you get the idea.

Saving up for...something :cool:

[grimREEFER]

well, hopefully when i get my liscence, ill have an 05 ford focus, and some cool body kit on it. im thinking of getting a scion, but it looks like they are for noobs, and they arent as fuel efficient

[Elisha]

Infiniti J30

[CaTalyst.X]

I picked this beast up a few weeks back :D

2.3L Of pure power!!!!

She does about 115 down the highway :P

[craig588]

1998 Ford F250 - All stock except for a Reading cap.
1998 Cadillac Deville - This thing has been upgraded with tons of invisible parts, you would never tell by looking at it. It has a almost 500HP Northstar in it, the transmission has been regeared to match the engines power, it has some sort of high end computer that will do all sort of tuning on the fly automatically. It's had the suspension shrunk so it rides a bit lower too. Something was done with the exhaust for more power, I can't remember what. I think that covers all of it, this car was given to me modded so there might be other things that I don't remember on it too, it's hard to remember things I didn't personally do.
1964 Willis CJ5 - The suspension has been upgraded to handle around 6000 pounds, the transmission has been geared for extreme torque, it maxes out at around 55MPH. I also put in the biggest clutch avalible because I kept smashing up weaker ones. The body is held together by a set of steel tubes because it's so destroyed it wont stay together any other way.

My dad gave me the Deville because he doesn't like me driving around in a truck that's as trashed as the Willis is. There's a reason I drive the CJ5 though, it's so old and trashed it doesn't matter if it gets damaged.

The F250 is for working, I keep a smaller version of almost every tool in my shop in the truck. (Hence the Reading cap)

[WesM63]

A new pic of my 944 Turbo...

http://www.dataeclipse.com/wes/dpics/951-1.jpg

[ingentingmendeg]

nice porsche dude. *drools*

[Twoces]

Wes, I love the 944, one of my buddy's has one of those, great car.

I myself have a 2000 Civic Si that I'm counting down the days until I can part with it, never really was to happy with it. My other "fun" car is a 95 MR2 Turbo, it's all stock but still a hella fun car, hard to find though.

[mion]

Nissan Sentra 97, that was hit from every side, and broke more times that was hit but it seems that it will work from now on

[faruquehabib]

1988 jeep cherokee :D (poor college student)

once i get my comission and graduate, i will be able to afford something nice.

mdzcpa - your maurader is the sh*t man!! i want that car haha!! :toast:

[nghisus]

2003 Jaguar S-Type V8
Used to own: 2002 Camaro SS Convertible with a .30 overbore forged pistons and rods with a 100 shot of nitrous.
Will own: New Shelby GT500. A blown 5.4 with Manley Rods and forged pistons...what more can a man ask for?

[Chipmonk]

just bought a 2001 VW GOLF GT Tdi

[trance565]

learn to drive a standard, its actually very easy

[Jamo]

manuals are so much more fun anyway

[{PMS}fishy]

Pfft......Down with cagers.

http://pmsfishy.zerobrains.com/svfront34.jpg

[amd4me]

Well when My inheiritence comes about in a few years or so, I'll be getting one of these(with a 5 spd automatic transmission):

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/mustanggt05.jpg

Although I could possibly afford something like this (If I could drive It, I was told I'd be well off financially):

http://www.lambocars.com/hr/mur/mur116.jpg

Not too practical, It would be perfect to just drive around in. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Edit: Well I was wrong, It does have an Automatic Transmission, A 6 spd in fact, So the Mustang may be out.
You want an auto?
Thats sad man.
shame on you. :slap: :slapass: :nono:

[drcrawn]

My baby...'95 U.S. spec BMW M3/ Dinan Stage II Supercharged (www.dinanbmw.com) B&B aluminium exhaust (it's loud and throaty, heh)

~350hp/300torque
7000rpm redline
0-60mph: 4.8sec
1/4 mile: low 13s @108 or so...
Custom JL stereo with twin 8 inch woofers in the back :) I am the original owner of 10+ years (production date was spring of '94). Good times in this car...lots of dumb stuff. It's definitely a screamer and a hoot to drive with perfect pedal placement for heel toe downshifts and wonderful steering response. Wish it had a 6th speed though for highway...I'll probably never sell it :)

http://img186.echo.cx/img186/5562/dscf00309ea.th.jpg (http://img186.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscf00309ea.jpg)
http://img186.echo.cx/img186/1332/dscf00212yh.th.jpg (http://img186.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscf00212yh.jpg)
http://img186.echo.cx/img186/795/dscf00114wy.th.jpg (http://img186.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscf00114wy.jpg)

[easypanic]

I'm driving a gray Skoda Fabia 1.9 TDI :)

Sporty, lightweight car :)

[x3ro]

I dont have a car..Im not 18 ... (thee age required to drive a car voer here) But my dad has a Volvo S60 T-5(2.4ltr turbo)

stock:
-260BHP
-350NM
-250Kmh

now(new ecu):
-310BHP
-450NM
-265Kmh

Its a fun car to be in:P

[Holst]

1995 Ford Fiesta Frascati 1.3L

Dont know what BHP it is, fastest it will go (on the speedo, which probabl yreads high) is about 110mph. At which point is vibrates rather a lot.

This pic is not mine, but its exactly the same bar the wheel trims.

http://imageserver.autoexposure.co.uk/200x150/SHD4628699/AETV632890_1.jpg

[[XC]thewildblue]

1996 220 Coupe
1998 306 XSI
2000 626 GXi TD...estate
1998 ZX7R with 120@rear wheel.

Had loadsa cars, the best fun I had was in my cinquecento sporting complete with turbo conversion.....went from 55bhp to 105bhp, 0-60 in under 8, went off the speedo (120mph) no problem was only a 1.1 and still group 3 insurance. I had stiffened antiroll bars strut brace, drilled and grooved dics lowered springs. I then had a nice ICE install, infinity kappa all round with rockford amps. Fully dynamat + dynaspray, did 140SPL in a sound off with just my one 12" sub. It was broom yellow with a nice special red leather interior custom fitted. I only had the car a year but it was great fun and one of only 10 in the country at the time. When your 21 with a few points on your license group 3 insurance is a god send.

[[XC] leviathan18]

i have a toyota corolla 1994 with a nice audio system and a 2002 mitsubishi galant vr v6 2.5l and i think 170bhp top speed 260km\h that is about 161Mi/h

waiting for a brand new mazda 3 :D

[mattsmall]

iv got an 87 toyota supra turbo inline6 turbo also has the 5 speed and a targa top. has lots and lots of mods.
http://www.iupload.net/022005/front%20really%20good.JPG
http://www.iupload.net/022005/gmotor1.JPG

[IamAnoobieCheez]

looks like that one could do 6 sec flat...

supras are nice.

[Elisha]

my baby:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/HPIM1174.jpg

[BB mods's]

93 J spec 626

http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/motor1.JPG
http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/turbo2.jpg
http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/turbo.JPG

[IamAnoobieCheez]

my baby:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/HPIM1174.jpg
nice...

that's a fast car. The car automatically drops down closer to the ground starting at 120mph. Top reported speed is 155~ 160mph. Just like some of the Mercedes models.

The parts used on the J30 is exceptional... some real high quality stuff, expensive too, even better than the Lexus parts. The asking price was actually 84,000 USD when they first came out, but has been dropped to half the price.

[Daveb2012]

97 cavalier.. ;)

POS

[Anarki]

I own a Peugeot 106, 1.1. A whacking 60BHP! Cant complain first car and everything.

[Peen]

Heres my truck. had her since i was 14, 20 now. Was a total piece when I got it, frame off resto

[Peen]

and a couple more =0
about to stick a 408 Stroker in it this summer =) gunna be 450-500HP. Wont be a daily driver anymore!

[Elisha]

nice...

that's a fast car. The car automatically drops down closer to the ground starting at 120mph. Top reported speed is 155~ 160mph. Just like some of the Mercedes models.

The parts used on the J30 is exceptional... some real high quality stuff, expensive too, even better than the Lexus parts. The asking price was actually 84,000 USD when they first came out, but has been dropped to half the price.


no idea about all that. altho it is a sleeper tho. i love it.

[jgerrits]

2002 Subaru WRX

(not the sti) :(

[Spectrobozo]

1979 Volkswagen Sedan 1300-L :D

top speed +- 110km/h

[WesM63]

My new toy...

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/t04b/turbo4.jpg
http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/t04b/turbo2.jpg

More boost is fun :D

Just so you don't forget what I drive and what i'm putting it on...
http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/gtz951-3.jpg
Umm the one closest to you, not the beretta:p

[JDizzle]

2000 4-Door Honda Civic with 2 baby seats in the backseat.

[Rukee]

American Muscle!!
The GodFather of all Muscle Cars: `65 Pontiac GTO. Factory Tri-Power, close-ratio 4-speed, tinted windows, teal wood stearing wheel and gear shift knob, lockable center councel. It`s taken 40 years to get to the point this car was coming off the line in `65.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/Rukee/gtounderhood.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/Rukee/gtoside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/Rukee/gtoinside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/Rukee/gtofront.jpg

I need a better pic, but I just installed some Craggar SS rims and some huge rear tires that really hook up nice.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/Rukee/GTO.jpg

[BlueAqua]

Figure I'd show some pics of my GTO.

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_0997.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_1012.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

[Rukee]

Nice, I`m glad they made it, but it pisses me off they couldn`t make it look like a GTO.
The new beatles look like a beatle, the new mustangs look like a mustang, the new thunderbirds look like a thunderbird, but no scoop, no hood tach, no nothin, the new GTO looks just like everyother car on the road. :(

[ZX7891]

The GTO looks similar to a Grand Prix or Grand AM. Thats why theres nothign special about them.

[BlueAqua]

I agree, it is kinda plain for being a GTO but it's a lot of car for what I paid for it. I bought it for 17600 brand new because they were not popular cars. For 05 they have upped the HP by 50, put on some new hood scoops and rear bumper and a few other changes and reduced production by 50%. I bought mine for almost half of MSRP and it's worth it, but not MSRP. The fit and finish is better than any other GM car I've seen and it's made in Austrailia. There are a few oddities about it and I wish they made it look like the Austrailian or European versions instead of dumbing it down for us Americans.

[Rukee]

There was no reason why Pontiac couldn`t make their own V-8 and top it off with three 2bbl throttle boddies for a Tri-Power look, but have the fuel efficiancy of a modern injected unit. Give it a Hurst shifter, hood tach, RAM air induction, all the things that made the GTO a GTO. The `69-70 Judge is the most popular/most reconised GTO, they should have made the new body look close to those. IMO, the GTO could have been the biggest winner from all this retro stuff, but, not.

[BlueAqua]

There was no reason why Pontiac couldn`t make their own V-8 and top it off with three 2bbl throttle boddies for a Tri-Power look, but have the fuel efficiancy of a modern injected unit. Give it a Hurst shifter, hood tach, RAM air induction, all the things that made the GTO a GTO. The `69-70 Judge is the most popular/most reconised GTO, they should have made the new body look close to those. IMO, the GTO could have been the biggest winner from all this retro stuff, but, not.

I completely agree, I don't consider my GTO a real GTO. Just a car with 350hp, good ride, cost effective with a GTO name badge. They could have done so much more with it, and that's why it was the 3rd worst selling car last year. But it worked out well for me. :toast:

[Bergo]

I drive an '88 mkIII supra, N/A 7MGE

[mtb856]

'98 Acura Integra GSR
-----------------------
GReddy Evo II catback exhaust
Pioneer sound system
Toyo Proxes TPT tires

Planning on adding an AEM V2 intake and headers sometime soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/mtb856/Random%20Pics/comp1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/mtb856/Random%20Pics/Exhaust1.jpg

[Mad Pistol]

2003 Ranger Edge.

Not too fast, but I'm working on it. It will be fast before I give it up in about 4 years. I'll post pics when I get home tonight.

It's ok for being 18.

[Xerxes]

03 gti here, its fun but i already want to mod it :)

[i found nemo]

that exhaust is fake

[i found nemo]

i want a mustang at 2.6ghz

[One_Hertz]

My dad got an H2 Hummer with maxed out options.... its pretty damn sweet

[Evil XP2400]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/Motor%20Swap/AngleShot.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/NEwWheels.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/Motor%20Swap/P1000234.jpg
Out with the POS Single Cam
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/Motor%20Swap/MotorHanging.jpg
In with the new 180hp DOHC :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/Motor%20Swap/NewMotor.jpg

[Patrickclouds]

it´s a VW Touareg

http://patrickclouds.cybton.com/pics/touareg3.jpg

[calcal]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/Motor%20Swap/AngleShot.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/NEwWheels.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/Motor%20Swap/P1000234.jpg
Out with the POS Single Cam
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/Motor%20Swap/MotorHanging.jpg
In with the new 180hp DOHC :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/Junier433/Motor%20Swap/NewMotor.jpg

what engine is that? integra?

gorgeous civic =]
how does it perform?

[Stewie007]

My dad got an H2 Hummer with maxed out options.... its pretty damn sweet

Heh, and 8 years ago I never thought I'd see people driving around in Army Jeeps.... who knew.

[Stewie007]

gorgeous civic =]
how does it perform?

Civic *snickers*

Why are kids obsessed with Civics? Sadly, the Japanese Automakers really don't know how to exploit engine power. I don't know how many cars I've driven with empty horsepower... Enough to satisfy a kid who thinks that its all about the HPs.

I like my 3.8. Its only rated at 200HP, but I dare you to compare a 3.1, 3.5, and a 3.8 at 200HP. You'll see the difference. It has low end torque that will rip your typical Japmobile's overhead cam configuration a new ass hole.

Not that a DOHC ain't a great engine. :p The Solstice has a good little EcoTec that has some pretty impressive stats for a 2.2 4C. But there ain't nothing wrong with a good DOHV. Never under estimate an engine just because its a "push rod." :p

But really... I'm a big fan of the LS series engines they use in the Corvette, GTO, and the Grand Prix GXP; LS2 and LS4 respectively if you don't know. One beautifully engineered motor.

[Stocky]

VTECs are quality! (Revving at 9000+ RPM!) Jap engines are very tune-able, top notch engines.

I like that Integra (next on my list ;)), mmmm Type R...

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Myself had a problem at the carwash yesterday - think water was too hot............. :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/2966/smallcar3xq.jpg

:toast:

[calcal]

VTECs are quality! (Revving at 9000+ RPM!) Jap engines are very tune-able, top notch engines.

I like that Integra (next on my list ;)), mmmm Type R...

i love the type-r....ahh i just wish my parents bought me an gs-r
yep vtec engines are sweet. once you hit that rpm you get a boost in speed

stewie: people are obsess with civics because their cheap and you can do a lot of modifications on it + they look nice unlike your american cars.. :banana:

[Stocky]

they look nice unlike your american cars..
lol, there are loads of nice American cars! Just a shame they are usually guzzlers :D

Petrol prices have just hit 1GBPound per litre out here, so they are a no go! :(

[Stewie007]

Funny, if you look at the statistics, GM has more 30+ MPG cars than Honda... If anyone actually spend time reading about it, instead of trusting what the competitor says.

But its funny, a cheap little Honda Civic is a nice looking car.... *snickers*

My 3800 Block is an inspiration from a long past engine. It originated in an old Buick Racing engine. Its evolution has brought it to its current, and now upgraded state of a 3.9 Block with some pretty tight controls. (Not my block, but the block in general by GM)

I've driven many different cars, and I am most satisfied with the revs I get out of my 3.8 and the speed. That's why I bought it.

Anyone that knows what they're doing can mod the hell out of any engine. But kids think that adding a new exhaust pipe without matching the headers, or doing ANYTHING to the manifold gives them more power. They sound like they're farting on down the road.

Then they add these huge tall double wings, or singles... without noticing that their car can't possibly go fast enough to need one; its just slowing them down and creating the wrong kind of drag.

Its not just civics, I don't want to be too biased. It goes for Dodge Neons, Chevy Cavaliers, and all of those little cheap cars that kids buy and turn into ricers. They think they know how to squeeze out power. They are accessorizers; when dealing with REAL engine work; they aint got a clue.

I only wish I had the money to spend on my car that way. The real stuff is expensive. The cheap copies all over the market are for people who are minus a clue.

[Stewie007]

:D Myself had a problem at the carwash yesterday - think water was too hot............. :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/2966/smallcar3xq.jpg

:toast:

LOL thats a good one hehe

[bubblethumper]

Ok, I'll play

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/bubblethumper/PreAdjuster/IMG_0267low.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/bubblethumper/PreAdjuster/IMG_0265low.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/bubblethumper/PreAdjuster/IMG_0268low.jpg

[Stewie007]

Ok, I'll play

It looks pretty slick in that blue. Although I'm not a BMW fan, if I won one, I'd sell it and get something else.

[calcal]

It looks pretty slick in that blue. Although I'm not a BMW fan, if I won one, I'd sell it and get something else.

^ :spam:

[Stewie007]

^ :spam:

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to say that I wasn't into BMWs.

:bs:

[i found nemo]

rice bashing lol take a stock viper versus a hopped up crx both at same hp, crx will win, it is lighter, tha's why jap cars don't need torque, but if you need to be snotty even my corolla builds max torque @ 3300rpm which is quite low. even though i did not tune my car or anything like it, i'm sure if properly tuned i could take your car out without too many problems

[Stewie007]

To get that horsepower you'd need an engine twice as heavy or more than yours. :p Wouldn't be so light anymore with an 8.0 Liter would it now? :p

But you gotta understand the mechanics of an engine. That HP rating is at the cam, not the wheels. If it doesn't have a good drive train, and its cam gets say 300 HP, you won't be getting all of that at the wheels. Chrystler has an 8.0 Liter in their Viper, and it can only barely beat a corvette that had a 5.7. That should tell you right there that there's more to it than Horsepower.

Wish someone would tell Dodge that...

[Rippthrough]

Flywheel, not the camshaft.




:slap:

[Stewie007]

Yeah, you're right. :p

But still, what I was saying is still a valid point. The actual measurement of a car's power that is most accurate is the Horsepower at the Wheels. :)

[BB mods's]

Ok, I'll play

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/bubblethumper/PreAdjuster/IMG_0267low.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/bubblethumper/PreAdjuster/IMG_0265low.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/bubblethumper/PreAdjuster/IMG_0268low.jpg



Ok Bubble..now ILL play
http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/vbcvb.JPG

93 J-spec Turbo 626 380hp to the wheel's on pump gas (ill lay a nice 50' patch of rubber for ya some time's and post my pic's) 0-60 sux due to breaking traction.

1977 Limited edition Corvett L-88 Factory 6" chrome side pipe's 500HP Bill Miller racing engine.
0-60 Fast enuff to drop panties :D

[Stewie007]

380HP to the wheels? What the heck do you got in there? And why is it in a... 626?

[bubblethumper]

380HP to the wheels? What the heck do you got in there? And why is it in a... 626?

Quite the sleeper :toast:

[Stewie007]

What's inside?

[Vapor]

I've got a red 1985 BMW 325e.....mint condition. 'Tis a beauty. I'll try to post a pic tomorrow if I remember to take one. I'm also getting a 160k mile 2001 Civic from my dad I think...it's silver and boring, I reckon it will be a good daily driver though, especially in the winter.

[BB mods's]

J spec 2.0l block, Fully filled, .080 over,arias forged piston's,destroked and nitrated crank (-.300) help's make up for the bad rod x stroke geometry,Billet rod's,soft lobe cam's Thank's to Comp cam's,440cc injector's,56mm throttle body,tube header down to turbo,blitz boost controller,"soon to add tractic traction controller",progressive Nitrous controller,2mm larger Stainless steel intake valves 1mm larger on the exhaust,oil impregnated valve guides,no valve seal's,ported polished head by me,.030 copper head gasket,Jap 5 speed tranny, force 1 2 stage 4 pad street/strip clutch. :stick:

http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/turbo2.jpg
http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/turbo.JPG
http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/motor1.JPG
http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/motor3.JPG
http://www.snt-systems.com/Uploader/uploads/turb6263.JPG

:dj: :rocker:

Nitrous and traction controller will be the next best upgrade's fo sho!

[illmatik]

Civic *snickers*

Why are kids obsessed with Civics? Sadly, the Japanese Automakers really don't know how to exploit engine power. I don't know how many cars I've driven with empty horsepower... Enough to satisfy a kid who thinks that its all about the HPs.

I like my 3.8. Its only rated at 200HP, but I dare you to compare a 3.1, 3.5, and a 3.8 at 200HP. You'll see the difference. It has low end torque that will rip your typical Japmobile's overhead cam configuration a new ass hole.

Not that a DOHC ain't a great engine. :p The Solstice has a good little EcoTec that has some pretty impressive stats for a 2.2 4C. But there ain't nothing wrong with a good DOHV. Never under estimate an engine just because its a "push rod." :p

But really... I'm a big fan of the LS series engines they use in the Corvette, GTO, and the Grand Prix GXP; LS2 and LS4 respectively if you don't know. One beautifully engineered motor.

Civic VTEC Engine has the highest power to weight ratio in the world (of any production car engine) Check out the Top Gear Episode w/ the Ariel Atom Pretty impressive what it does w/ 1/3rd the stock weight. They say it puts more to the ground than the Enzo

[BB mods's]

Hey Stew...wana race your car next to mine? my little DOC 16 valve 626 would eat that 3800 of your's and still stay under 7k rpm and ill launch at any rpm u want me to ;)

[Stewie007]

Mine's stock and yours isn't. Let me put some upgrades in first, then we'll see who's got muscle in their car hehehe.

You can't just hop up an engine, and then compare it to a stock engine. You've gotta hop up both engines. Odds are, if it couldn't catch the other at stock, it aint gonna catch it when its maxed out.

Either way, thats alot you got in that 626... :p I'd just rather have it for me grand prix... I'm not into Hondas, etc.... or BMWs etc...

If I won a BMW I'd sell it. :p

[BB mods's]

Sure bro :) u do what ya need to your ride and all ill do is step on the gas a little more ;)

Im looking for some one here thta has a digi cam corder...then ill go to a parking lot and have some fun for you guy's...mmm laying rubber on cam..kina excites me :woot:

[Stewie007]

3800ccs gives me alot more potential than your 2000, sadly. :) But the point is really irrelevant, since I have not the money to do such things. I'm savin it for my next car. :p:

So I can only say that your 626 is pretty dang impressive, but otherwise it needs a paint job :D

[Rippthrough]

Yeah, you're right. :p

But still, what I was saying is still a valid point. The actual measurement of a car's power that is most accurate is the Horsepower at the Wheels. :)



Torque at the wheels :slap: :slapass:
Which, by the way, the Horsepower trace on a dyno is a direct influence on.

[[XC] leviathan18]

my car inside
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8976/cimg0026small3un.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
my car outside
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1274/cimg0027small9op.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
the new trunk of my car
http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5015/dsc027548wv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
and my best friend grand cherooke
http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/7746/dsc027994jh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and for stewie007 japanes cars are way better than americans, american cars after 2 year you have to throw them japanes cars can last 10 15 years easly...

and there are some high HP japanes cars like mazda rx7 mazda rx8 toyota supra acura rsx honda nsx honda 2000 nissan skyline gt r 34 lancer evo mitsu eclipse mitsu 3000gt vr 4 mitsu galant vr 4 nissan 350z

[Pinnacle]

1977 Limited edition Corvett L-88 Factory 6" chrome side pipe's 500HP Bill Miller racing engine.
0-60 Fast enuff to drop panties :D


OMG!! a 77 LE L-88. The best looking car of all time! A design so far ahead of its time! I love it.

For gods sake what is it doing outside? You can see the sun damage. TAKE CARE OF THIS BABY!!!

[CaTalyst.X]

BB lets see a full shot with both of those hoods popped

-CaT

[Stewie007]

and for stewie007 japanes cars are way better than americans, american cars after 2 year you have to throw them japanes cars can last 10 15 years easly...

2 years? Funny, I own a 2000 Grand Prix, my parents an 01 Le Sabre.... Previous cars...

Old Chevy Celebrity - my dad never took care of it, yet it still lasted 10 years before my bro took it over, then another 3 years. Funny... Seems to have beaten your 2 year theory by 11 years....

Buick Century - Leased it for 3 years. But the condition it was in when we turned it in was really quite excellent. My dad took care of this one, and it did us very well.

Chevy Lumina - The only thing that could take this one off the road was a collision in the rear. Totalled, and replaced with a rather inferior Volkswagen Passat, 96. Needless to say it had 108,000 miles on it, and with good maintenance, that engine would have lasted a good long time. We would have still had it today.

Buick LeSabre - Got it in 2001, and still today it drives like new.

Pontiac Grand Prix - This one's mine, and obviously its only 5 years old. Gave it a 60,000 mile tune up, and she gets routine oil changes. No problems here.

Aunt and Uncle had an old Buick LeSabre... I think it was a 90, they just recently got rid of it. Didn't break down, they just wanted something else.

For the Bad - We had an Olds Cutlass that never ran very well. It sucked rotten :banana::banana::banana::banana:. No wonder Olds is gone now.....

Oh, and I forgot to mention the old 77 Caprice we had that was 14 years old before. Bought it used, and it still ran just fine. Sure, it could have used a major tune up. But the fact is it needed no major maintenance.

So, all that said. Japanese cars sure are quality cars, there's no arguing that. If it weren't for them, the American Auto Industry would have never gotten to where it is today. So I think you need to get your ass out of the 70s and realize that this is 2005. I get tired of hearing old men at work talk about their Toyotas, and then go and say "American cars just don't last." The last time they drove one was in 1985... Funny how you can form an opinion with a 20 year gap.... I bet you formed yours by hear-say.

[CaTalyst.X]

my car inside
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8976/cimg0026small3un.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
my car outside
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1274/cimg0027small9op.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
the new trunk of my car
http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5015/dsc027548wv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
and my best friend grand cherooke
http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/7746/dsc027994jh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and for stewie007 japanes cars are way better than americans, american cars after 2 year you have to throw them japanes cars can last 10 15 years easly...

and there are some high HP japanes cars like mazda rx7 mazda rx8 toyota supra acura rsx honda nsx honda 2000 nissan skyline gt r 34 lancer evo mitsu eclipse mitsu 3000gt vr 4 mitsu galant vr 4 nissan 350z

Sorry for double post but after 2 years you have to throw an american car out? Damn dude you are so ignorant if you actually think that. Just as many crap jap cars have rolled off the line as american cars. Take the Nissan DET and DETT for example, have fun at 100,000 miles when your turbos wear out. I know many people with fords, chevys, dodges, etc with more than 200,000 miles on them still running strong, so i wouldnt make such bold statments if i were you.

[Ugly n Grey]

and for stewie007 japanes cars are way better than americans, american cars after 2 year you have to throw them japanes cars can last 10 15 years easly...

:slapass:
10-15 years? you are being silly. There' no car on the face of the earth that will do that kind of time with me driving it. In terms of repairs per 1000 vehicles, the top three manufacturers in the world as measured by JD powers are separated by a couple per cent... Toyota, Honda, DaimlerChrysler...with the most reliable Chrysler being the PT Cruiser...

I have a Black PT Cruiser Turbo and a Durango...both great vehicles. I'd buy a Toyota, but I hate sacrificing horse power and getting charged more. I figure I can drive anything right into the ground in about four or five years...

if you offer me a civic or a corolla, I'd say they might last a long time because they are so bloody slow nothing wears out. I'd rather take the bus.

[Stewie007]

Compared some cars on JD..

This is what I came up with....

Overall Quality:

Buick Le Sabre - 5 Stars
Lexus (cant remember model) - 5 Stars
Pontiac Grand Prix - 4 Stars
Buick Lacrosse - 4 Stars
Nissan Altima - 3 Stars
Honda Civic - 3 Stars
Toyota Corolla - 3 Stars
Mitsubishi Galant - 3 Stars
Pontiac G6 - 3 Stars

Got alot of American cars beating out these Japanese cars here... You can check them, I'm not lying. They're all 05 models. And they're standard models too, obviously. Because no civic I know of is going to compete with a Grand Prix GXP, or GTP's features; even a GT. I don't like though how no one seems to care about OnStar... That alone trumps any of these features I see in other cars. Strangely Cadillac seems to be at the bottom rungs... BMW ain't at the top of their game either. Lexus has almost all 5 stars.. Suzuki and Infinity are abismal...

Fancy electronics and a few bells and whistles can't beat having a person call you when your airbags deploy, and sending help if needed. Directing you to where you need to go if you're lost. The personal touch works even better than digital maps sometimes. Unlocking your car doors remotely for you when you call in telling them ya locked em in. You're stuck with your Altima... gotta get a lock smith, or call home for the second set of keys.

I don't know if I trust JD Power's though... they seem biased towards Lexus.. :p: Although, only 1 Infinity came out as mechanically sound. The other 2 models came out as... "The Rest" 2 Stars. The FX Series, and QX56... Not very mechanically sound apparently.. :p

[BB mods's]

Jap car's have crap model's same with american car's...i own both type's and got lucky,Ill get some more pic's when the weather get's better.

[[XC] leviathan18]

old american cars are actually quite good make to last newer ones specially from chevrolet are crap my family had 4 blazers and after two year or 3 years you have to repair the WHOLE front train cuz it sux, and for the other side you can see in my garage one toyota corolla 1994 that is PERFECT no problems and next to it a land cruiser 1988 that bastard after 700000km can still run i dont know how but it does it

but actually i can see daily some newer fords like the fiesta and focus and the chevrolet blazer, corsa, astra really bad after a couple of years runing in the other side you can see lots of corolla 1994 running out there very cheap to repair them....

lexus is japaness and i dont know where you found those ratings no bmw at the top or audi or VW no mercedez?????? those cars are the best of the best i wont change my moms bmw 545i for nothing in the world

[SewerSide]

Civic VTEC Engine has the highest power to weight ratio in the world (of any production car engine) Check out the Top Gear Episode w/ the Ariel Atom Pretty impressive what it does w/ 1/3rd the stock weight. They say it puts more to the ground than the Enzo

Civic's are old granny shopping carts, they are also extremely ugly.

Oh yeah, IMO.

[Rippthrough]

By god, there's more stereotypes in here than at a audiobahn festival.

[Stewie007]

lexus is japaness and i dont know where you found those ratings no bmw at the top or audi or VW no mercedez?????? those cars are the best of the best i wont change my moms bmw 545i for nothing in the world

You're surprised the VW isn't at the top? They are NOT the best of the best. They're actually low end Euro cars. You cannot compare a BMW to VW... not even close.

I found these ratings at JD Powers, I did say JD..

I know Lexus is Japanese....

And by the way, you CANT change your moms BMW 545i for anything in the world... She'd murder you if you tried hehe. But these are just ratings done by JD Powers based on statistics. The point I'm trying to convey is that all manufacturers have their problems, not just the US Industry. That's just poppy:banana::banana::banana::banana:.

[Stewie007]

Civic's are old granny shopping carts, they are also extremely ugly.

Oh yeah, IMO.

Granny Shopping carts that kids happen to be obsessed with... :p They're usually all beat up... I'm a detail freak too, so if I customize my car, its gotta be presentable, otherwise I've wasted my time.

[BB mods's]

HEY!!!!!!!! Chill out guy's......me and Stewie007 were just playing with each other......let it rest..

[Stewie007]

Well actually BB, this was in reference to what someone else said. :)

I think they know who's car would win in a fight anyways.... :p: ehehe

[BB mods's]

I know stew but this cant keep going on...Stew's car is beautifull..mine has had to many track wreck's and is ugle..my vett is pretty but cost to much to drive..im a broke white boy that eat's chip's all day because i cant get a date...mmmmmk so shhhhh b4 Kazoo get's on us for flaming.

[[XC] leviathan18]

i know VW are cheap cars but they are better cars than many cheap american cars and they have nice cars no just the ugly VW new bettle

[Stewie007]

I see your problem. You've gotta put everyone elses car down because you think your's is the greatest car in the world. Everyone else is also a complete idiot; for example we all believe that the VW Beetle is the only car in the VW Arsenal. Why don't you go get a boner over your car now. No one's saying its a piece of :banana::banana::banana::banana:. I'm simply saying that American cars are not either.

And people wonder why I stay away from anything other than GM..... Its the attitude that people have that makes me avoid them.

[BB mods's]

Easy stew.....take it easy.....

[Stewie007]

RRaarRR! RUFFF! RARR RARRRR! ERRRR ARRRRRARR RRR RARRRR!!!!!!

:p:

[[XC] leviathan18]

i dont have the best car in the world 4 me the best car in the world is a ferrari enzo or bugatti or lamborghini or something like that

for me i have this list: european cars from germany and italy
japanesse cars
american cars
rest of the world

but is just my opinion and my experience with cars i have a fiat that is 35 years old and i have a toyota that is 17 years old and i have another toyota that is 11 years old and they all run great and the blazer had 2 years we changed the front train :S so for my experience is that i dont like the american cars i wont lie to you i love mustangs corvettes camaros but the normal cars i really dont like thems

[Stewie007]

"Runs great." Heard that before...

*turn the key*

Vroom!!! Vroo-hic hic- klank BOOM! Vroom... Mummm mumm hic hic kang kling klank.... hic hic....BOOM! :D

I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna argue about it anymore. You just keep editing your opinion. :p:

[BB mods's]

BAD stew! bad!...now get over to my house and grab a drum of 507 to play with!

[Stewie007]

You got it ready yet? :p:

[BB mods's]

I got the gas..problem is i dont have my recovery machine on hand to move the gas to the can for u!

[CaTalyst.X]

Pics of the hood popped on both cars? I wanna see that detroit steel and that tokyo tin!

-CaT

[Stewie007]

Tokyo Tin..... hehehe

[lalPOOO]

Try to keep it on topic boys, this isn't a japanese/euro/american pissing contest, this is a 'what car is ur own' thread.

[mnewxcv]

im only 15, but i plan on getting a 93' mustang cobra. gotta love the fox body! my dad drives a focus 3dr thats stock, 2.3l. i might get a universal sc kit for it. also he just got 2001 galant. i havent seen it, but all i know is its from an auction and has subs in the trunk lol.

[vtx_]

1989 cavalier z24 red with silver ground fx and a 2.8 liter v6 :)

[NickK]

Ok, I'll play
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/bubblethumper/PreAdjuster/IMG_0268low.jpg

CSL by the look of the wheels and the spoiler.

If it is - nice track car :D

Btw.. CSL = M3 with better handling and a lot less weight.


Currently drive a little old Saxo.. however I'm currently in the process of test driving cars:
* Saab 93 2.0t Aero - test driven.. not too bad.
* Alfa Romeo GT - next to test drive.. rather beautiful italian car.. hopefully the electrics are ok!
* BWM E46 330d - old barn stormer but BMWs are the most common car in the UK.
* Audi A3/4 - although ok these always strike me as dull.. we'll have to see.

[Five-Seven]

and heres my car.
Its a BMW 545i with M-Sportpackage.

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/9806bmw1.JPG

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/9806bmw2.JPG

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/9806bmw3.JPG

[bubblethumper]

Actually, the M3 is not a CSL. It's an M3 with the ZCP (competition package). The package includes CSL Brakes, CSL wheels, CSL ebrake and steering wheel, CSL steering rack, Interlagos Blue Metallic exterior, and the CSL's "track mode" button.

[Stewie007]

MM BMW... lemme go get my blasting caps... :p:

[jaguarking11]

personaly I borrow my pops car till I can get my hands on a caddy. He drives around in a 2002chevy astro. Awsome van/truck whatever it is. managed to burn ruber in it. This thing acelerates like crazy for what it is, suprising realy. My pop drove it with about 3600lb of bricks in it before and while the car wadled around the engine did not seem stressed and I had no problems on the highway at about 65mph. It took a while to stop but he was carefull.

Anyway. im a american iron kind of guy. And to put my two cent in about amrican cars falling apart after a fiew years is total BS. I personaly know of at least two 1/2 million mile+ 15+ year old cars with no problems and they dont stuter either. Both of em are fords and withought looking at the odometer you would never guess the milage. Chevy astros are know to be exelent work vehicles known to hit well over 300k miles while doing heavy work. its not uncomon for a well built gm or ford to go for well over 1/2million miles withought ever taking anything apart exept for normal maintenance and tuneups.

also someone posted that a civic with the same hp as a viper would eat the viper up. I would sugest you look into the old hot rod magasine articles. I recall an article that they built two 500hp cars. one was a buick and one was a honda. The honda cost well over 4times the money to get 500hp and neded high octane race gas to make the whole 500hp and the buick neded pump gas to make 500hp. The buick beat it with no problems weign in at almost twice the weight.

Your litle motor will develop 500hp but it will not make more than 350lb of tourque. a large motor will match hp and tourque and the tourque line is flat. By the time your motor has hit high enough rpm to provide the tourque neded the large motor is alredy down the line. High rpm motors are also very unpredictable when cornering if your arguing weight to power ratio and handling. Remember kids tourque gets you down the line not pure horse power. And I have seen it time and time again, honda civics need well over 10grand of parts before any significant power can be made to ofset the weaknes.

[ciento44]

Well, i'm not going to go ahead and completely disagree with that last response.

However, for any modern buick or pontiac engine, i forget which the 3.8litre in question was, you're going to need a ton of work on the bottom end to make a whole lot of horsepower, probably replace a large amount of the engine.

Simply put, it all depends on the engine.

My 1993 Toyota Celica GT engine is a 2.2L, only making 130HP stock.

Now, explain to me why the engine in the 1990 Celica All-Trac, a 2.0litre, has been reported as making a reliable 500-600HP? Granted, it's a turbo. 3GSTE.

Mine is a 5AFSE i believe. The argument could be made that i could get that same 500HP, and i would be faster, because of the larger displacement, and the inherent torque that comes with it. However, the stock block won't take that kindof power, it's not that strong.

Loosely put, different engines take more abuse than others. Mine will be pushing the bottom end at about 180HP, i wouldn't put it much farther than that.

http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/cherry/mvc-546f.jpg

The great thing is, even though it's only 130HP, the gearing is still right to chirp the tires pretty damn hard on the 1-2 upshift.

Anyway, screw that. Back to topic:

Obviously, i'm driving the Celica now.

Other cars i've had, in order of purchase

1995 Audi 90 Quattro (2.8 V6)
1993 Range Rover County LWB
1993 Toyota Celica GT
1988 Saab 900 Turbo "S"
1969 Datsun 2000
1993 Toyota Celica GT
1993 Toyota Celica GT

Long story about the celicas... They're all actually the same car.

Oh, and incidentally about the reliability issue. My celica now has 162000 miles on it. All that has ever been replaced on it is as follows:

Brakes all around twice
Just replaced the original clutch two days ago
Fuel tank and lines
Struts and shocks once
Timing belt, obviously

Really, that's it. Runs like the day it was new, and sounds great. yes, i still have the original exhaust on it. Japanese engineering at it's best. Tightest car i ever drove, barring a 1998 BMW M3

[NickK]

I recall an article that they built two 500hp cars. one was a buick and one was a honda. The honda cost well over 4times the money to get 500hp and neded high octane race gas to make the whole 500hp and the buick neded pump gas to make 500hp. The buick beat it with no problems weign in at almost twice the weight.

I'm not going to disagree however it's the design that's the X factor.

US cars are expected to go for 100K+ miles before they need spark plugs etc. Cars in the UK will be considered "over the hill" that that point.

US engines are usually designed for the extra mileage and consequently detuned (thus requiring more cc for the same bhp). This means that when your getting to 500bhp the US car isn't going to need as much work.

[ciento44]

^In theory, that's a good point.

I'm not sure if you meant American engines themselves, or engines designed or tuned for the US market. If they're engines designed for the US market, then it'll take the same amount of tuning to get to the same power levels, you'll just start out lower, and maybe even cost more because of emissions crap.

My aformentioned Celica is still on the first spark plugs, after 162k. Driving this thing, it's anything but "over the hill."

Just having a friendly conversation, but what you just pointed out is why US engineering is extremely inefficient. Typically, what are the two most mentioned brands when talking about extremely high miles without rebuild?

Mercedes and Volkswagen. For good reason.

[Pinnacle]

^In theory, that's a good point.


My aformentioned Celica is still on the first spark plugs, after 162k. .

You should seriously consider replacing them.

Im sure you know the advantages.

[ciento44]

Yeah, i know. I've just been loathe to do it, because it's not broken, you know?

But yeah, i'm getting some money from a job soon, and i'm actually probably going to put a lower level supercharger in it, maybe just get another 40HP or so out of it, nothing major, just higher fun factor. I'll probably do the plugs at the same time.

[Soulburner]

Yeah, i know. I've just been loathe to do it, because it's not broken, you know?

But yeah, i'm getting some money from a job soon, and i'm actually probably going to put a lower level supercharger in it, maybe just get another 40HP or so out of it, nothing major, just higher fun factor. I'll probably do the plugs at the same time.
Wow @ 40hp from a blower...and how much $ is that gonna cost you?

Not worth it... :stick:

[C_X2]

I bought my secondhand car a week ago.

It is a 1996 BMW 525 TDS touring (station wagon) 143 pk (I think in English it's horse power :D )

And all of this beauty for only 2000 euro (+- 2400 dollar I think ;))

options: Leather interior, electric windows and mirrors, airco, dubble opening sunroof, 10 cd changer with dolby from blaupunt, front airbags, etc........

pics: http://users.pandora.be/matenhen/auto /me is very happy :D


Ow tested on a German road: 220km/h on the meter and on gps 206 with a restriction chip from BMW, without it it would do 220km/ real

220km/h = 137.5 mp/h This car does 11.6 seconds from 0-60 mp/h (0-100 km/h) And it's an improvement to my Mercedes Benz who did 18.5 soconds LOL

[ciento44]

Wow @ 40hp from a blower...and how much $ is that gonna cost you?

Not worth it... :stick:

Sorry, i should have elaborated more, and now that i've done more research on it, it seems more like 20-25HP is more like what i'll get out of it alone, but i'm also getting ram air, hotter spark plugs (though anything will be hotter than what i have now), hotter spark wires. And if i get a job up here, Unorthodox underdrive pulleys.

www.turbonator.com

That's what i'm going to try. It's cheap, and the idea in theory is sound. I just won enough money playing poker the other night to just blow on that, so i'm just going to go with it. It's not a true supercharger, i think they describe it more as a Mechanical Vortex supercharger or something like that. It doesn't have to spool up or anything like that.

Like i said, i'm not sticking a ton of money in it now, because once i get out of school, the whole thing is getting rebuild, with a 3GSTE swap, and awd.

C_X2, nice, i've always had a soft spot for BMWs. My dad used to take my Celica on long trips, because it got better gas mileage than his modified 1993 328is, so i got to drive it then. Rocket, and it handled like nothing i've driven since. Is that diesel?

[C_X2]

Sorry, i should have elaborated more, and now that i've done more research on it, it seems more like 20-25HP is more like what i'll get out of it alone, but i'm also getting ram air, hotter spark plugs (though anything will be hotter than what i have now), hotter spark wires. And if i get a job up here, Unorthodox underdrive pulleys.

www.turbonator.com

That's what i'm going to try. It's cheap, and the idea in theory is sound. I just won enough money playing poker the other night to just blow on that, so i'm just going to go with it. It's not a true supercharger, i think they describe it more as a Mechanical Vortex supercharger or something like that. It doesn't have to spool up or anything like that.

Like i said, i'm not sticking a ton of money in it now, because once i get out of school, the whole thing is getting rebuild, with a 3GSTE swap, and awd.

C_X2, nice, i've always had a soft spot for BMWs. My dad used to take my Celica on long trips, because it got better gas mileage than his modified 1993 328is, so i got to drive it then. Rocket, and it handled like nothing i've driven since. Is that diesel?

yes that's a diesel. TDS = Turbo Diesel Sports (i'm not shur of sports but the rest of the TDS is right ;))

But it uses 10 liters at 100 Km so it's isn't as economecle as i tought ;)

[NickK]

Test drove an Alfa GT yesterday (1.9JTD version). A very nice car.
Parker's gallery (http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/carreviews/gallery/?img=7&model_id=1203&category=Static%20exterior)

[eBoy0]

2000 toyota avalon.

[[XC] Duc]

Mercedes-Benz CLK 200 K Convertible...163BHP, soon 198BHP :D
Liked the SL more, but as a dissabled person I need more room to put my wheelchair, so I had to go for something with 4 seats in it... :(
Some pics, I'll take other ones later... (http://users.pandora.be/Ducboy/Merc/)

Ps: Welcome to C_X2, nice to see some more Belgian people here :toast:

[C_X2]

Mercedes-Benz CLK 200 K Convertible...163BHP, soon 198BHP :D
Liked the SL more, but as a dissabled person I need more room to put my wheelchair, so I had to go for something with 4 seats in it... :(
Some pics, I'll take other ones later... (http://users.pandora.be/Ducboy/Merc/)

Ps: Welcome to C_X2, nice to see some more Belgian people here :toast:


Thanks but I was here before with the nick C_X but for some reason it was deleted....... And they couldn't find it anymore. Therefor I added a 2 on c_X ;)

btw: nice car you have there...... My first car was also a Benz but it was a horrible 200D without a turbo :D 18.5 sec to 100km/h

[aja]

1971 mercedes 280se straight six automatic
bought it for dirt cheap......

the thing that tells you how far it has gone just clicks over after 99'999kilometers, but it has been estimated that it has gone over 550'000km's but looking at the wear on the piston rings and headgasket...

max speed of 120km/h, but overheats to 135'C if you dont slow down quickly....max speed is 100km/h if you want to travel longer than 5mins at that speed....this car is the best, i love it! :woot:

i get about 320km's off a 75liter tank, hahahaha, it is terrible i know.....

but im rebuilding it, in for panelbeating and a respray at the moment(going for a black suede matt paint, charcoal-black leather seats and beige suede doorpanels and headliner and other leather trim....)

after all this gonna get some Focal sound and nice rims with whitewalls :banana: as well as an airbrush of the four horsemen of the apocolapse on the sides, pearl white on the panels around the windows and a silver pinstripe from the back to front.....

also swopping out pistons, cams, conrods, entire exhaust system, suspention

before you shout at me, i REALLY wish i could restore this car to its original shine, but i dont have the cash, the heatguage broke, found out that an original would cost me the same that i paid for the car, so just put in a generic cheapy at 1/70th the of cost

wish me luck!!!
oh yeah, also have a volkswagen polo classic 1.6i as a daily driver(but polo's are dumb :slapass: )

this is what it looked like when i got it

http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/5667/dsc007635pj.jpg
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/1368/dsc007751nl.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9063/dsc007679co.jpg

it looks like a tractor engine LOL LOL LOL
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2219/dsc007991yu.jpg

[guess2098]

2000 toyota avalon.

i used to have 98 avalon ^^ good car

now is E46 M3 SMG

[Newbie_User]

To aja : Where are you exactly?? In europe??
I would rather see the car modified into a custom home-made style...
Will see if i can find some specs....

'd better buy a twin of that car, you would have replacement parts... lol :p:

I guess you the 300 engine will fit.....Why not try the V8 from the 600 limousine.
(The Limo also have a great interior and rear-hydraulic suspension...)

You could also turn your 280 se into a 600 (with one or two more meters...)

Or, the heating problem is well-known on forums...
http://forums.motorlegend.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/9/22.html
I guess you could design a good heat-exchanger yourself.....(aluminium...)

Think you can run 160 hp's with a prep'd engine.....
But it's a pity to touch those ladies....they need to be preserved....and rarely driven at the most.... :(

why not ask AMG (at the time, they were running 6.8 (from 6.3) liters V8 engine on a 300 SEL series chassis....(24 Hrs Spa-Francorchamps 1971)
have a pic (can e-mail if you want....)

Of course, everything depends on how much youv'e got......the problem of all those who work for a living....... :slap:

[Stewie007]

My aformentioned Celica is still on the first spark plugs, after 162k. Driving this thing, it's anything but "over the hill."

Bull :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

[Stewie007]

Have you ever worked on a 3800 block to know what it takes to get more horses out of it? I don't know where you get your information that you'd have to replace half of the engine to get anything out of it. You don't seem to really know what gives power to a car, and what does not.

For example? What good is horsepower if another part of your car is starving your wheels for torque and power?

What good is horsepower, if your car doesn't have the power to get up a decent grade without really starting to whine?

What good is horsepower if your shocks cannot handle a decent turn at speed?

There's more to a car than horsepower. Sure, on the strip its a big deal. But when you start driving around an actual race course, with varying terrain, you begin to notice that there's more to it than the boner effect known as Horsepower.

I could tune my 3800 block to do 300 easily, add a new differential to allow for greater power delivery to the ground. Adjust the transmission to a tighter beat. Add a better PCM and thermostat to unlock some more power, without really doing much. Give her ram air. A better ventillation system than your Celica is gonna get.

Anyone who thinks they're gonna get 600 useful HP out of a V6 without spending more than it costs for a V10 that will do it stock is just plain stupid.

[KoHaN69]

there could be only ONE HIGHLANDER!!!

http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/Highlander/Images/Highlander-FinalBattle.jpg

http://lib1.store.vip.sc5.yahoo.com/lib/mytightride/Highlander.gif

[Newbie_User]

To Stewie 007 :
Hi
Guess you're talking about driving.... :p:
Well, on one hand, it's not easy to "teach" young (from over 18 to 30 years old) people about the lost art of driving.....
They have their owm marks and their own habits....that's all....
Of course, getting so much power on the front wheels is, i think, just not good...not even for runs...
But...on the second hand, if you are the owner of a car, you'll definitly try to strip her guts...... :slobber: ....

On the all line, you'd be right.....but the point is that everyone is different....
And..it's great..... :)

To ciento44 : in deed,there was a tuned celica ( 4th of July, pikes peak 1994)
Celica-based (or say...related :)
4 wheel drive
2.1 four cylinders turbocharged engine (Toyota Racing Development....900 Hp)
Carbon brakes
A aerodynamic "effect (don't know the scientific word)" of more than 2000 pounds on the rear...at 200 km/h

The record was set at 10'04"06 mins
Previous was 10'43"63 on a Peugeot 405 T16 driven by Ari Vatanen.

[Stewie007]

On the all line?

Whatever that means... :p

My only point was it doesn't take so much to get power out of any engine. Just because they're japanese engines doesn't make them so much greater. Toyota ain't the only company playing around with racing engines. :p

[trance565]

it's actually alot cheaper to get power out of a v8... last i checked, some dude got 450 WHP in his integra, by spending 15-20 thousand bucks AFTER the cost of the car, so a total of about 30 grand

with a v8, such as ... a mustang GT, you can get 500 WHP with a good 5-6 grand, so like 16 grand total

or a camaro LS1 can get 650 BHP, 600 WHP, with new heads, and pistons, 6k there, so 20k total

small engines cost too much, and require too much maintenance to get a lot of power out of them, or let alone fix them, ppl wat 500 bucks just to install the clutch, that's assuming i'm supplying the clutch, on my acura

while my bro paid 400 bucks, got the clutch, and had it installed, on his mustang


btw, newbie: the word ur looking for, is downforce

[Anarki]

Another advantage with a bigger sized engine is that you don't need to rev the nads off of it for the power.

Altho I wouldn't say no to a 450bhp integra :p:

I myself quite like diesels, I have had the pleasure of driving a VW Golf GT TDI and was very satisfied with the performance from a 2L Turbo diesel. Ok so its not a gorgeous sounding engine like a V8 mustang but It's economical and with the price of fuel in the UK, quite a godsend!

Anyways I shall leave you to debate jap and yank engines ;)

[Stewie007]

it's actually alot cheaper to get power out of a v8... last i checked, some dude got 450 WHP in his integra, by spending 15-20 thousand bucks AFTER the cost of the car, so a total of about 30 grand

:p That much should be obvious, no? :) It goes hand and hand with my statement earlier about a V10 hehehe.

[trance565]

actually, i think v8's might be cheaper than v10's, cuz most cars with v10's cost a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load to begin with, same with v12's

and on the note of diesel, my friend is actually thinking about replacing his ls1 with a powerstroke deisel, one of the ones with like 550 hp, and 600ftlb of torqe, cuz of this new "bio deisel" fuel coming out, it's supposedly supposed to cost 2 bucks a gallon, and stay that way, it's made from some sort of vegetable oil i think

[Newbie_User]

:)
My first statement is that it stinks (the smell) and it produces smoke....
But if your uncle is a farmer, then you should go for it....
They are originally made from cereals (colza, beetroot,...)

Some farmers, in britain country roads are using and producing it (in fact, they are recycling used oil (huile) from fast food or their own oil consumption...)
This replaces regular gazoline....

The diesel you are talking about is called Diester....we have that in France, and especially big transport firms are using it (mostly urban bus companies....)
And the European Union will increase the percentage of "bio power" added with the regular gas........to 6% i presume...
So, for now on, we are talking about both "Bio-"Diesel and "Bio-"Gasoline...

Remenber that, in Bresil, they are using alcohol, with an increased Octane rate....and a different compression ratio (higher than regular engines....)
And that's working pretty damned hard (Heaven, those little VW cars have the Devil in them...)

To trance565 : yop, downforce is the word.....i should have looked into GT4 :p:

Diesel addict.....
The only difference that makes a Diesel a diesel is that it's a spontaneous combustion engine (no added spark but a higher compression and a self-combustion by both heat and inside pressure.....)
Also, those engines are used to run out of air at more than 4000-4500 rpm's while gazoline engines go run as high as 15-16000 rpm's....

Of course, a diesel produces more torque, almost twice the amount of a similar gazoline engine......
Say we have direct injection and piezoelectric injectors (1600 bars of pressure...) and more than 2000 with pump-injectors from VW.....
(Say DCI,TDI,DI-D,.....)
Also, say that we have turbo (or two....), that can variate the angle of it's own fins to fit with a lower exhaust gaz debit.....

Look at the new PSA-Jaguar-Ford-Land Rover 2.7 V6 dual-Turbo engine (from 190 hps with a single turbo to 204 hp's with Dual Turbos...)..SIlence at his best...A panther strenght in a relaxed atmosphere....
Or the V10 TDI engine from VW.....313 hp's but an awful weight.....700-750 Nm of torque if i'm right....

The most impressive must be the BMW 535d.....272 hp's out of a 3.0 V6 engine......dual Turbo's...in line (The first-little one goes as the engine starts and up to 2500-3000 rpm's, then the valve of the second-big ass turbo opens with pressure and roars to 4500-5000 rpm's......just like a european BMW engine....)
Check this out.....On a 1000 meters run, this baby does around 26' secs....

Also, have seen a 200 hp's 1.9 liters TDI engine.....installed into a golf IV....
Or a Renault Megane Coupe with 170 hp's out of a 1.9 DCI engine
Look at Peugeot RC's CUP (2.2 liters HDI engine with 180 hp's...plus particules filter) :slapass:
http://www.developpement-durable.psa.fr/fr/index_actualite.php?niv1=0&niv2=02&id=833

Damned, say a diesel for everyday and a gazoline roadster or muscle car for the week-ends....

Anyone agrees??

[uOpt]

1997 Saab 900S convertible.

Photos from when I picked it up:
http://www.cons.org/tmp/img_1870_saab1.jpg
http://www.cons.org/tmp/img_1871_saab2.jpg

[ciento44]

To ciento44 : in deed,there was a tuned celica ( 4th of July, pikes peak 1994)
Celica-based (or say...related :)
4 wheel drive
2.1 four cylinders turbocharged engine (Toyota Racing Development....900 Hp)
Carbon brakes
A aerodynamic "effect (don't know the scientific word)" of more than 2000 pounds on the rear...at 200 km/h

The record was set at 10'04"06 mins
Previous was 10'43"63 on a Peugeot 405 T16 driven by Ari Vatanen.

Yes, true. And that engine used is a variant of the engine that is getting swapped into my Celica next summer, which is the 3SGTE. I'm running the 5SFE right now, which in comparison is a real turd. It's a 2.2 N/A 4-cylinder making 135HP/145 lbs of torque. The 3SGTE, depending on which generation makes 185HP/205HP/255HP stock. The last generation was only available on the Cardina and Celica GT4 in Japan i believe. The other generations are readily available in the US for a decent price. Celica owners can expect to blow around $5000 in cash for the complete engine/tranny swap. The tranny from the 5sfe can't even hope to cope with the power this engine can put out. Tuned 5SFE though, forget it. People have done a "5sfte" turbo mod, but it's really not worth the money, and all you really get out of it is something different to brag about.

Stewie007, i just say chill out man. I'm not going to pretend that i know everything about your 3.8 V6. I'm sure that 300HP is perfectly attainable, but if you notice, we were talking numbers like 500HP. That's going to take some work. And even though you say it like it's a fact that i think that Jap engines are the greatest, wrong, i don't. German is the best that i can think of. Spark plugs at 162k original? True story, unless the owner before me replaced them before 24000 miles, at which point the 60-year old lady can be deemed a moron.

Moot point anyway, i just replaced them two days ago with NGK V-Power plugs, and Nology Spark plug wires. Makes a little difference, not a whole lot.

My dad's 1992 Ford Aerostar ran to 227000 miles, and he only replaced the spark plugs once. As long as they don't get fouled with oil from some idiot not taking care of the engine, good spark plugs run a long freaking time.

And Stewie, i know that there's more than horsepower, that's why i chose to keep the Celica rather than get some crapped out Camaro that would still dust me on a drag strip. I've been through two driving schools, and the Datsun 2000 aforementioned in one of my posts, was a track toy set up for road racing. It's about making speed, and keeping it. My roomate's Z28 will kill me on a straight road until his gearing limits his top speed, but i'll kill him on a road course. It's all simple. Please don't treat me like i'm a freaking moron, i haven't done the same to you.

Back on topic, kinda. My girlfriend is looking into getting a Prelude type SH with the H22A engine. I hope she does so i can drive it. :banana:

[trance565]

:)
Diesel addict.....
The only difference that makes a Diesel a diesel is that it's a spontaneous combustion engine (no added spark but a higher compression and a self-combustion by both heat and inside pressure.....)
Also, those engines are used to run out of air at more than 4000-4500 rpm's while gazoline engines go run as high as 15-16000 rpm's....

Of course, a diesel produces more torque, almost twice the amount of a similar gazoline engine......
Say we have direct injection and piezoelectric injectors (1600 bars of pressure...) and more than 2000 with pump-injectors from VW.....
(Say DCI,TDI,DI-D,.....)
Also, say that we have turbo (or two....), that can variate the angle of it's own fins to fit with a lower exhaust gaz debit.....

Look at the new PSA-Jaguar-Ford-Land Rover 2.7 V6 dual-Turbo engine (from 190 hps with a single turbo to 204 hp's with Dual Turbos...)..SIlence at his best...A panther strenght in a relaxed atmosphere....
Or the V10 TDI engine from VW.....313 hp's but an awful weight.....700-750 Nm of torque if i'm right....

The most impressive must be the BMW 535d.....272 hp's out of a 3.0 V6 engine......dual Turbo's...in line (The first-little one goes as the engine starts and up to 2500-3000 rpm's, then the valve of the second-big ass turbo opens with pressure and roars to 4500-5000 rpm's......just like a european BMW engine....)
Check this out.....On a 1000 meters run, this baby does around 26' secs....

Also, have seen a 200 hp's 1.9 liters TDI engine.....installed into a golf IV....
Or a Renault Megane Coupe with 170 hp's out of a 1.9 DCI engine
Look at Peugeot RC's CUP (2.2 liters HDI engine with 180 hp's...plus particules filter) :slapass:
http://www.developpement-durable.psa.fr/fr/index_actualite.php?niv1=0&niv2=02&id=833

Damned, say a diesel for everyday and a gazoline roadster or muscle car for the week-ends....

Anyone agrees??

yep, that's what i would do if i had the money, diesel evday driver, sports car weekender, but here in america, we done believe in diesel with less than 300 hp

i think one of our weekest diesels, that i know of, is like 350HP, and 450 ftlbtq
i think thats the ford f250?

but anyways, if i were to get a diesel, it would have to be a GM motor, with 500 HP, and a good 700 ftlb of torque, i mean, sure, 10-12 miles per gallon, but none the less, thats a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load of power, and alot of our diesels will do qtmile in like high 14-15 seconds.

[davidw8818]

You should seriously consider replacing them.

Im sure you know the advantages.

[LFATB]

1971 mercedes 280se straight six automatic
bought it for dirt cheap......

the thing that tells you how far it has gone just clicks over after 99'999kilometers, but it has been estimated that it has gone over 550'000km's but looking at the wear on the piston rings and headgasket...

max speed of 120km/h, but overheats to 135'C if you dont slow down quickly....max speed is 100km/h if you want to travel longer than 5mins at that speed....this car is the best, i love it! :woot:

i get about 320km's off a 75liter tank, hahahaha, it is terrible i know.....

but im rebuilding it, in for panelbeating and a respray at the moment(going for a black suede matt paint, charcoal-black leather seats and beige suede doorpanels and headliner and other leather trim....)

after all this gonna get some Focal sound and nice rims with whitewalls :banana: as well as an airbrush of the four horsemen of the apocolapse on the sides, pearl white on the panels around the windows and a silver pinstripe from the back to front.....

also swopping out pistons, cams, conrods, entire exhaust system, suspention

before you shout at me, i REALLY wish i could restore this car to its original shine, but i dont have the cash, the heatguage broke, found out that an original would cost me the same that i paid for the car, so just put in a generic cheapy at 1/70th the of cost

wish me luck!!!
oh yeah, also have a volkswagen polo classic 1.6i as a daily driver(but polo's are dumb :slapass: )

this is what it looked like when i got it

http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/5667/dsc007635pj.jpg
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/1368/dsc007751nl.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9063/dsc007679co.jpg

it looks like a tractor engine LOL LOL LOL
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2219/dsc007991yu.jpg

Similar to my old car I used to have a 1975 280 DOHC I-6, I paid 400 dollars for it, I found it funny when I outran most of the little ricers around here.

[Stewie007]

Stewie007, i just say chill out man. I'm not going to pretend that i know everything about your 3.8 V6. I'm sure that 300HP is perfectly attainable, but if you notice, we were talking numbers like 500HP.

I'm chilled. :p Anyways, if I wanted 500 HP, I wouldn't be stupid enough to do it with a V6. That'd be a waste of money.

I could get 500 our of my 6 just as easily as anyone else can. But it would cost alot of money, and it would purely not be worth it. Even with my own designs, it would be far more cost effective to just get a 6.0L V8 and tune it for 500.

[Vortex]

I don't have any pics right now of my car, but its a 1994 SS Camaro w/ an LT-350.

[trance565]

LT1 eh? nice u should swap it for an LS1

[Vortex]

I like the LT1 alot though...lol. I'm going to send it to CCI once I get some extra cash and have 'em go nuts on it. Factory 315HP when it gets back i'll have to buy another transmission since it'll be pushing around 475-500HP. Speaking of which...i'm still debating on whether or not the two 12" Alphasonics would be better suited than my back seat xD

[LFATB]

I wish I had a transmission for my Nissan Mini, or a 350 :)

[Vortex]

Yeah, sometimes the things can be hard to come by. I have a friend who was buying a new engine and he found a guy who had an engine and trandsmission both engine for $350 and engine w/ transmission...for $1,500...I was like...yeah, buy the engine find a transmission somewhere else.

[trance565]

you wont need a new tranny, just a new clutch and flywheel

i wanna get an ls1, and get some 402 heads, with pistons and what not, thats like 5k worth of :banana::banana::banana::banana:, and it puts it up to about 600 hp

[ciento44]

I'm chilled. :p Anyways, if I wanted 500 HP, I wouldn't be stupid enough to do it with a V6. That'd be a waste of money.

I could get 500 our of my 6 just as easily as anyone else can. But it would cost alot of money, and it would purely not be worth it. Even with my own designs, it would be far more cost effective to just get a 6.0L V8 and tune it for 500.

True story. :toast:

[Newbie_User]

To ciento44 and trance565 :
Have you seen this....:
http://www.spiegel.de/auto/fahrberichte/0,1518,372769,00.html

New Golf GT (fifth european generation....)
1.4 liters Turbo FSI engine (up to 7000 rpm's... :p: )
Direct gazoline injection
170 hp's and a torque of 240 Nm from 1750 to 4500 rpm's...

The idea : downsizing
The objective : a compressor that can be unplugged and a turbo that would take the following.....Both solutions in one engine...Like the Lancia delta S4 group B.....
From 7.2 liters per 100 kms up to 14 if you have a heavy foot.....

Say WOOOOO..HOOOOOO

Damned....they read my mind..... :rolleyes:
Enjoy !

[LFATB]

ACtually, I do need a new tranny, this one is locked up, I paid 1000 for a '96 mini with 100k in good shape, bad tranny. My friend has a 94 with a bad motor all setup for bags for 500, debating on that or a 350 crate.

[trance565]

To ciento44 and trance565 :
Have you seen this....:
http://www.spiegel.de/auto/fahrberichte/0,1518,372769,00.html

New Golf GT (fifth european generation....)
1.4 liters Turbo FSI engine (up to 7000 rpm's... :p: )
Direct gazoline injection
170 hp's and a torque of 240 Nm from 1750 to 4500 rpm's...

The idea : downsizing
The objective : a compressor that can be unplugged and a turbo that would take the following.....Both solutions in one engine...Like the Lancia delta S4 group B.....
From 7.2 liters per 100 kms up to 14 if you have a heavy foot.....

Say WOOOOO..HOOOOOO

Damned....they read my mind..... :rolleyes:
Enjoy !


170hp with a TURBO? that's kina sad, and what does 240Nm translate into ftlb?

[extol1337]

this is my ride: 2005 VW GTI 1.8T (Reflex Silver)

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9186/dsc01069small1ah.jpg
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/9674/dsc01023small3oq.jpg
http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/3251/dsc01067small8vd.jpg
http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/5638/dsc00869small0ij.jpg
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/1820/dsc00890small3gy.jpg

[uOpt]

My moosemobile:
http://www.cons.org/tmp/img_1870_saab1.jpg
http://www.cons.org/tmp/img_1871_saab2.jpg

[Newbie_User]

To Trance565 :
So, basically, it's the same that your actual car...
Say you have 173 ibs from 1950 to 5000 rpm's in your Golf GTi 1.8 Turbo
(20 valve engine !)

The new Golf GT have 175 lbs from 1750 to 4500 rpm's....
The engine will answer a little faster, thanks to the compressor, especially at ultra-low rpm's (850-1300)
Then , the "clutch" will put to sleep the compressor and put the Turbo in action...
By the way, how is your engine at high rpm's....?? (rusher? or seems harder to get further??)
Your car seems prep'd.....Nice.....Go to Europe.....'d find you a couple of guys who would race aginst you :p:
Nice car :)

[Vandread]

CSL by the look of the wheels and the spoiler.
If it is - nice track car :D
Btw.. CSL = M3 with better handling and a lot less weight.

Currently drive a little old Saxo.. however I'm currently in the process of test driving cars:
* Saab 93 2.0t Aero - test driven.. not too bad.
* Alfa Romeo GT - next to test drive.. rather beautiful italian car.. hopefully the electrics are ok!
* BWM E46 330d - old barn stormer but BMWs are the most common car in the UK.
* Audi A3/4 - although ok these always strike me as dull.. we'll have to see.
CSL has a carbon fiber roof ;)
Btw what car did you pick?
The 330D is a really fast diesel. It even joined Gumball3000 ^^
The AR GT is just boring with the FWD, although the engine is nice and the looks are pretty cool.

[NickK]

CSL has a carbon fiber roof ;)
Btw what car did you pick?
The 330D is a really fast diesel. It even joined Gumball3000 ^^
The AR GT is just boring with the FWD, although the engine is nice and the looks are pretty cool.

The purchase has been put off until next year but it'll be a Alfa GT 2.0 JTS.

I test drove the Alfa and, well, that was that ;) Car is better than a Saab 93 Aero for handling. The 1.9JTD was pretty decent for a diesel too.
However.. I can't get past the fact that it's a diesel..

I'm 6'4" and don't have a problem with the Alfa, good boot space and it has rear seats but you'd not want people over 6' in them.

Ticks all the boxes, although it being an Alfa mean it requires some regular TLC.

Currently the US doesn't have alfa.. so here is a link to the UK alfa webpage for pics :) www.alfaromeo.co.uk

[nhenhophach]

I have no Car but in VIET NAM i use Moto, i wait 3 year for it.

[typer77]

I am in Hong Kong.
I have 2 cars and 2 bikes currently.
Honda Odyssey (JDM not USDM)
996 GT3
Ducati 749R
Honda VTR250 (wife's)
track car (evo 8 MR tuned by Mr. Koyama)

[olfen]

nice cars there typer77 :toast:

[typer77]

:) don't get to drive it much tho.. use mostly the odyssey with family and I spend too much time on my pc.

[Lupus]

1988 BMW 535is 5-spd
I wish those were real M3 wheels but sadly they are knock-offs (real ones would probably double the value of my car; it's got 220,000 miles but still runs pretty well and beats ricers on my way to college every day). Good to see so many BMW drivers on here by the way. Excelent taste.

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9323/untitled3bg.th.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3bg.jpg)

[Martijn]

VW Passat V6 4-Motion (193bhp)

They are real drinkers, we sometimes do 3.4 Miles/Gallon :mad:. Or for others: 1.2Km/Litre

[SquireSCA]

My car is a company car, a crappy Chevy Malibu, but hey, they pay the payment, gas(even personal), all maintenance and insurance...

My real ride is this:

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/824011/8089003/114910926.jpg

Puts down 100HP at the rear wheel, 365lbs dry weight.

Here's a dyno run with audio:

http://www.metstaff.com/squiresca/F4i-Yosh-TRS%20Slipon.wmv

[OpTiX]

89 Mazda MX6 GT Turbo

[hollywood]

1997 Ford Taurus. Rust on hood and kicked out rear taillight.

Yay! :rolleyes:

[perithimus]

I drive a 1997 Chevy Venture. It's got lot's of room.

[ToxicBug]

2002 Nissan Sentra GXE

I like it because it has enough power for daily driving and it doesn't consume much gas if driven conservatively. Mine is manual (no ABS :) ) and the GXE comes with all the options, e.g. power windows, keyless entry, A/C, etc.

[3Tripnip]

2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart

I love this thing... much better than my old 1986 Jeep Cherokee I had before this. ;)

[antipop]

The new BMW serie 3, I've had it for a week and i just love it. It's smooth, driving is a real pleasure (as the ad says :D), and the engine make an awesome sound for a car like this. I'll try to take some pics later

[David Coleman]

http://www.davidandjemma.com/mazda/images/PinkPowa.jpg

1993 Mazda MX-3 GS Special Edition
http://www.davidandjemma.com/mazda for more info

2.5L 24v DOHC V6, 200bhp, 180ft/lbs....pretty fun in a 2400# package.

[SlfRychusSuicid]

05 Lexus SC 430... My beautiful luxury convertible!

[OzziKing]

BMW X5 4.4i Silver, Sports package 19in rims, Automatic or you can have fun in manual, cept no clutch :D ,60k miles, bought it for 30k, Tis a perdy beamer.

[ingentingmendeg]

BMW 330Ci

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/4023/picture0026ga.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8048/picture0042xw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

a little dirty lol

[AH^DK]

Used to have a Volvo 360 3dr for racing on fields, but it was thrashed in the end so we gave it away.

The specs were a 2.0litre carb. feed 100HP engine, it was a 1986 GL version in white. Burning rubber on the blacks werent a problem, but the fun were in the field, where its rear wheel drive would allow ya to do big drifts (Record: 16meters on wet dirt).

I was also jumped with many times, we got 25cm over the ground by the help of a small ramp, but we had forgotten that the place where we jumped seperated 2 fields, and the field we were landing on was about 10cm lover than the other, so we were about 35cm's above ground, and when it landed it slammed SO hard, as the supension was worn out totally.

But i am first allowed to drive a car when i am 18, but i'll buy one when i am 17, it'll probs be a Toyota Land Cruiser, but the dream car is a BMW M3 or a old Dodge Charger with a Hemi or a Shelby Cobra 500 :D

Dads driving a BMW 730i from 1992 or 1993 and a Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD 5.2ltr V8 from 1995.

[funkflix]

Audi A6 Avant 2.8L

http://funkflix.de/pics/audi1.jpg
http://funkflix.de/pics/audi2.jpg
http://funkflix.de/pics/audi3.jpg

[Upl][nk]

87 Chevy S10 - my hot rod
2003 Subaru wrx sti
94 Mr2 Turbo-tbar
89 Supra Turbo - targa

i like turbos hehe:banana:

[cl4w]

Golf 4 1,4 55kw 75ps build in 2000

not a racecar but its ok for the city ;)




http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/9273/rimg01199gz9ln.th.jpg (http://img496.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rimg01199gz9ln.jpg)

http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/7084/rimg01203ln1zg.th.jpg (http://img496.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rimg01203ln1zg.jpg)

[Upl][nk]

Golf 4 1,4 55kw 75ps build in 2000

not a racecar but its ok for the city ;)



Also a very good car ^_^ my brother has one very reliable

[shigs]

my car...

2005 smart forfour brabus

1.5l brabus tuned engine - 177 bhp
kerb weight of 1,090kg the power to weight ratio of 162 bhp / tonne
0-62 = 6.9 sec
top speed = 140

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/9681/smartforfour2005409ay.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smartforfour2005409ay.jpg)

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/8074/smartforfour2005439gr.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smartforfour2005439gr.jpg)

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/6117/smartforfour2005331jj.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smartforfour2005331jj.jpg)

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/1113/smartforfour2005310la.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smartforfour2005310la.jpg)

shigs

[Anarki]

my car...

2005 smart forfour brabus

177 bhp
0-62 = 6.9 sec
top speed = 140

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/9681/smartforfour2005409ay.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smartforfour2005409ay.jpg)

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/8074/smartforfour2005439gr.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smartforfour2005439gr.jpg)

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/6117/smartforfour2005331jj.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smartforfour2005331jj.jpg)

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/1113/smartforfour2005310la.th.jpg (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smartforfour2005310la.jpg)

shigs

Thats one kick ass motor, I love brabus!

[shigs]

Thats one kick ass motor, I love brabus!

thanks mate, it took out a bmw 330Ci the other day! man that was a good feelin! :D

[Stewie007]

That BMW isn't in your weight class by +1000 lbs.....

[shigs]

That BMW isn't in your weight class by +1000 lbs.....

umm... a bently continental GT weighs 2384kg... and would run my car into the ground everytime!

what you've jus said is totally Irrelavant...

the fact that a bmw 330ci owner pulled up beside me at the lights and started revvin his engine, thinking that he is :cool: .... then to get whipped on a straight by my lil smart! :D

[Stewie007]

It also has a 6.0Liter engine inside it smart guy.

1000 lbs is quite relevant in an engine especially that close in power. You need less torque to get the wheels spinning. Your weight advantage gave you an edge.

[shigs]

It also has a 6.0Liter engine inside it smart guy.

1000 lbs is quite relevant in an engine especially that close in power. You need less torque to get the wheels spinning. Your weight advantage gave you an edge.

but mate im talkin about the fact the BMW owner pulled up next to me like he was King of the Road... and to be beat by a smart car... im sorry next time that happens i will try not 2 smile :(

[Stewie007]

Nahh, you can cheer and stuff... :p

I was just sayin. Besides, the cars are pretty evenly matched.. I suppose I can't give ya flak for that hehe

[Stewie007]

Maybe I'll just get a Solstice (Modified with a V8 by...well I can't remember his name, but he's gonna do it) and put in a few extra goodies of my own.......

I'll call it a porsche spanker :p

[sin0822]

2002 Mercedes ML 430, with sky top roof, 3rd row seating, nav, and upgraded sound, oh and lighted side rail

[OldOne]

Just bought a 2006 Chevy 3500 crewcab long bed 4x4 with a Duramax Diesel.Love that truck.