Terminal services in w2k

[antipop]

I'm planning buying a laptop soon (a PB 15" i think) and i thought about hooking up my current lcd screen on it when i'm home so i can use dual screen without having to cash for a second monitor. Since my pc is way faster and easier to use for game, i don't want to throw it away but rather use it through the laptop using the remote desktop
But, the terminal services are not installed unlike win xp, is there a way to install them or should i use another soft? In this case,which one?

[sllywhtboy]

in server 2000, you can install a version of terminal services for administrative purposes.. this allows 2 connections at once.

--slly

[antipop]

i know i can do that in the server version but i only have the pro and it's enough for what i'm doing

[Torin]

What you want is tsweb. Basically it creates a terminal services connection via IIS that you can access from any computer with a browser and activeX plugin capabilities. It is just as fast as TS, and has single handedly saved me countless hours on the job. :)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=469eee3a-45b4-4b40-b695-b678646a728b&displaylang=en

Just install IIS 4.0 or greater, run the tsweb setup and connect to the computer like this: http://desktopcomputer/tsweb/

[antipop]

Alright thanks i'm taking a look

edit : it allows me to connect to a windows with terminal services installed, not to receive connection on my comp

[Torin]

No no...

TSWeb allows you to receive TS connections on your computer without TS installed. TSWeb is a web-interface TS that uses IIS. Just install IIS and TSWeb on the computer you want to receive connections on, and then from any other computer with a browser, access it like I showed above.

Edit: the description on the microsoft download page is a little confusing, but it does what I say it does... trust me, I use it everyday at work, 20 times a day. :)

[antipop]

No no...

TSWeb allows you to receive TS connections on your computer without TS installed. TSWeb is a web-interface TS that uses IIS. Just install IIS and TSWeb on the computer you want to receive connections on, and then from any other computer with a browser, access it like I showed above.

Edit: the description on the microsoft download page is a little confusing, but it does what I say it does... trust me, I use it everyday at work, 20 times a day. :)
Ok i believe, i mustn't haveread the instructions well

ps : the link is kinda broken, i get linked to http://3sm.de/Desktopcomputer all in german

[Torin]

Uh, what?

You hit the download button on the right side of the page, right?

Try this one: http://download.microsoft.com/download/d/c/8/dc88fe77-4316-45f5-816b-0f06f1cbffe3/tswebsetup.exe

[antipop]

Just install IIS 4.0 or greater, run the tsweb setup and connect to the computer like this: http://desktopcomputer/tsweb/
I was talking about this, i thought it was a url explaining how to use it :am:

Anyway to sum up : i installed the package you linked from MS, then i installed the IIS on the computer receiving the connection
I'll try it with my bro over the net : I created an account for him, he just uses the web page given inside the package and then with my IP he can use my comp, right?

[Torin]

LOL no, just an example of how you will access the computer with TSWeb. ;)

But yeah, how you explained is how it works.

He needs an account to login then goes to http://YourComputerWithTSWeb/tsweb/ and logs in.

It recommends installing IIS before TSWeb, but it should work fine as long as the tsweb directory gets created inside of the IIS directory.

Look in C:\InetPub\wwwroot and see if there is a TSWeb directory. This is of course assuming you used all the default install locations.

Edit: When you get to the Remote Desktop Web Connection page, just hit Connect without giving it a server name.

[antipop]

Yep it's in, i always used default location (prevents some bug sometimes)
I don't have to anything else on my comp? If he just do http://192.168.0.2/tsweb that will work? (assuming this is my ip on the lan) I guess it'll work without problem on mac os since it's web based

edit : i just look on the web and it seems like tsweb is not working on a mac (something to do with activeX) so i guess my only solution is to use a third party software

[Torin]

It'll work on any browser that supports ActiveX.. whether a mac browser does or not, I cannot say, but it works perfectly fine on any system with IE6.. haven't tried with FireFox but I imagine it will work too.

And no, you dont need anything else, and that is how it will work.

[sllywhtboy]

iirc, tsweb was a web-based presentation-layer for terminal services, however terminal services still had to be running on the destination box (terminal services, terminal services in admin mode, windows xp remote desktop, etc)

there's always winvnc or pcanywhere. however, the former is cheaper (free)

--slly

[antipop]

iirc, tsweb was a web-based presentation-layer for terminal services, however terminal services still had to be running on the destination box (terminal services, terminal services in admin mode, windows xp remote desktop, etc)

there's always winvnc or pcanywhere. however, the former is cheaper (free)

--slly
That's what i thought but Torin said the contrary. Anyway that's pointless now since it won't work on mac, i'll check winvnc if it'll solve my needs 10x

[sjohnson]

Also, consider RealVNC, TightVNC and ultraVNC. One might work better for your needs than another.

[antipop]

great i hope that between all of those one will fit my needs
This week i'll look more in details and i'll post what i've found

[Torin]

Just FYI, you do not need TS running for TSWeb to work.

[antipop]

I trust you Torin but that's not the point anymore sadly it looked like a nice and easy tool

[sllywhtboy]

Just FYI, you do not need TS running for TSWeb to work.http://blogs.msdn.com/tristank/archive/2004/03/18/91806.aspx

so you go to some webserver that's running tsweb. you pull down the terminal services client through an active x control. all it is is a web-based remote desktop client. it does not initiate the terminal services on the hosting computer. it does not initiate the terminal service on the whatever comptuer you're trying to connect to.

following needs to be enabled on the computer you're trying to connect to:
winxp: remote desktop (allow remote users to connect to this computer) win2k serv: terminal services (admin mode or full-out terminal services)
win2k3 serv: same as win2k serv.

torin: do the "tsweb" into some box.. then disable terminal services (or remote desktop, or whatever other app you claim doesnt need to be running for this to work) while you're remote'd into that box.... close your connection. try to go back into it. does it work? no. :stick:

or use some flavor of VNC. *.vnc :)

--slly

[sjohnson]

That's what i thought but Torin said the contrary. Anyway that's pointless now since it won't work on mac, i'll check winvnc if it'll solve my needs 10xNo need putting up anything that doesn't work on a MAC, gents!