View Full Version : Anyone know why the channel is out of FX55's?
xgman
02-07-2005, 01:58 PM
I mean the entire distribution and reseller channel is void of FX55. Any ideas why or what is going on with FX's? When is FX57 supposed to come out?
MrQ3W
02-07-2005, 02:01 PM
May be yield issues, might be the fact that AMD has a bunch of stuff just around the corner too.
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-07-2005, 02:14 PM
I mean the entire distribution and reseller channel is void of FX55. Any ideas why or what is going on with FX's? When is FX57 supposed to come out?
:D Offical: FX-57 comes Q3/2005 (AMD roadmap).
Unoffical: AMD does a new revision on their FX-55, comes with a better mem controller.
:toast:
jokester
02-07-2005, 03:37 PM
I thought the FX57 is due out in a month or two (which will feature a new memory controller and SSE3).
Jokester
jjcom
02-07-2005, 03:41 PM
I thought it was Q2? i'm not sure tho
jjcom
eva2000
02-07-2005, 04:03 PM
maybe hold back supply to jack up price further throughout the channel ???
kryptobs2000
02-07-2005, 04:12 PM
probably, amd is beginning to get really greedy imo
terrace215
02-07-2005, 04:21 PM
Being 90nm it is either revision D or E.
If Revision E, it will have SSE3.
The 90nm FX-55 showed up on distributor order information this week.
See here:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5357096
Also, the x52 (2.6GHz) Opterons are due to launch on Feb 14/15.
They will also be either a new Rev D or Rev E part.
See here:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5352602
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5361790
There you go :D I think 90nm fx55 will blows all cpus in the market as long as sub zero problem wont rear its ugly face.....
black rose
02-07-2005, 08:55 PM
Interesting, a 90nm Sempron 3100 for S754.
I'm too dumb to read that. Where it's supposed to say 55 comes?
And I don't even see 252 let alone what date it's supposed to be released.
Just watch the eta for fx55 at major retailers. It could be 90nm..... with some amd 64 3000 90nm performance as an indicator then 120K Aquamark3 score is a possibility... :D
What amazes me is AMD retailers bascially been out of this chip for 3 weeks.. So what? maybe another 2-3 before 90nm 55's hit? Idiots.
Maybe they just did'nt predict well.. cause of poor sales of thier FX's in past due to ever changing sockets.. I know there was lots of unsold 51's and 53's 940's...then 53 939 came out so close to 55 lots of people just waited for 55.
if its going to be 90nm, lets hope it doesn't have any of the problems that the winnie has, that would really suck.
googles
02-07-2005, 10:21 PM
yea...was a 90nm fx-55 planned? i thought the first 90nm fx was supposed to be the fx-57. guinea pigs for the fx-57 slated for q3?
newegg has an ETA of the 9th for their OEM Fx-55's, and 11th for retail, lets see what happens.
i think the price is being raised because of them not being in stock, once they get in stock the price will drop again.
jinu117
02-07-2005, 11:35 PM
It sounds like to me one of those unbootable under prommy FX-55 is coming into market :P
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-07-2005, 11:49 PM
It sounds like to me one of those unbootable under prommy FX-55 is coming into market :P
:D I had the same thoughts some weeks ago when I first read about the releasing of the 0,09 FX-57 - but people say unofficial that the problem is known by AMD and the new revision won't have the subzero problem anymore,
it's AMD's flagship and they cannot allow to get in the market with such an issue.
So probably it's the same with the new revision of FX-55....... :toast:
bxa121
02-08-2005, 12:16 AM
wonder: fx57 vs fx 55 with new mem controller...
Hmm. That's why I have to wait soooo long for an FX.
Hope it hits retail channels very soon. Can't wait!! :D
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-08-2005, 06:53 AM
Hmm. That's why I have to wait soooo long for an FX.
Hope it hits retail channels very soon. Can't wait!! :D
:D I pray for You every single nite............. :toast:
kryptobs2000
02-08-2005, 07:10 AM
so is it confirmed there is going to be a 90nm fx-55?
xgman
02-08-2005, 07:48 AM
It would seem that way, but I suppose that can change at any time.
:D I pray for You every single nite............. :toast:
Hehe, thanks mate :thumbsup:
terrace215
02-08-2005, 10:36 AM
Yes it is confirmed. The guy who posts the distributor data is reliable. And a tier 1 disti doesn't get things like that wrong. It makes sense, because the 90nm Opteron 252 is launching on the 14th, and that is also a 2.6GHz 90nm part with 1MB L2. (But 940 vs. 939 socket of the FX-55)
And it is confirmed that the Opteron 252 is using a core later than the other 90nm Opterons (Rev D4), and later than Winchester (Rev D). It might be Rev E, or an even later D revision.
Hopefully E, which will bring SSE3.
jjcom
02-08-2005, 02:06 PM
sounds good, the Winchester's increase in clock for clock preformance should help AMD get even farther ahead in terms of preformance, plus the incrase in L2 helps. Plus it would seem that a 90nm 2.6ghz part would be easier to make than a 2.6ghz 130nm part
jjcom
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-08-2005, 02:32 PM
:D I'm hopeful we will see a lot more 3,5Ghz+ on single phase done easily in a few month..... :toast:
kryptobs2000
02-08-2005, 03:39 PM
how much clock for clock performance increase is there from 130nm to 90nm?
jjcom
02-08-2005, 04:12 PM
just bit...~5% or so. Not awhole lot, but noticible on a benchmark.
jjcom
xgman
02-09-2005, 09:47 AM
I noticed on that distributer link that the FX55 13 version is listed as back ordered until 3/1.
D&H (AMD Partner Distributer) has deleted all listings for the FX55-13nm and now only has orders for the FX55-90nm version. It may be that when the FX55 starts shipping again later this moth, that AMD has quietly changed over for good to the 90nm on the 55's.
terrace215
02-09-2005, 02:35 PM
The increase from 130nm CG to 90nm Rev E might be a little more than 5% (at the same clock) on some apps. We know that 130nm CG to 90nm D Winchester is 3-5% on some apps. E should be better than D.
terrace215
02-09-2005, 02:40 PM
xgman,
Does D&H listing for FX55-90nm contain the OPN (mfr part number) ?
If so, could you post it here?
The 130nm FX-55 OPN comes in 2 formats:
Tray: ADAFX55DEI5AS
Boxed: ADAFX55ASBOX
The 90nm FX-55 OPN *should* look something like:
ADAFX55B_BOX where B_ encodes the core revision
or for tray:
ADAFX55D__5B_
Some other distributor is still using the old OPN for their FX55-90nm listing, which cannot be correct.
Wondered if D&H has the new OPN...
thanks
IvanAndreevich
02-09-2005, 03:32 PM
terrace215
I think they were talking about increase in clock-speed, not performance. Anyhow, it will be
1) Faster clock per clock
2) Faster in frequency
That's why I like AMD :)
OldOne
02-09-2005, 05:28 PM
Are they using ss in 90nm?
terrace215
02-09-2005, 05:36 PM
Ivan, no, they were talking about "clock for clock performance increase", i.e. IPC increase from 130nm to 90nm.
terrace215
02-09-2005, 05:37 PM
oldone, yes. whether this part will be first generation SS or the new stuff "DSL" remains to be seen.
so is it official that the fx-55 is going to 90nm, or did this thread make it officially a rumor?
xgman
02-09-2005, 06:56 PM
xgman,
Does D&H listing for FX55-90nm contain the OPN (mfr part number) ?
If so, could you post it here?
The 130nm FX-55 OPN comes in 2 formats:
Tray: ADAFX55DEI5AS
Boxed: ADAFX55ASBOX
The 90nm FX-55 OPN *should* look something like:
ADAFX55B_BOX where B_ encodes the core revision
or for tray:
ADAFX55D__5B_
Some other distributor is still using the old OPN for their FX55-90nm listing, which cannot be correct.
Wondered if D&H has the new OPN...
thanks
That is the one thing I didn't ask. She just said it was listed as FX55 90nm box version. An AMD rep today that I spoke to was a bit more skepitcal. Who knows..... :rolleyes: I may call back tomorrow and try to get a part #.
xgman
02-09-2005, 06:58 PM
so is it official that the fx-55 is going to 90nm, or did this thread make it officially a rumor?
It is still a rumor. All I have seen is two distributers listing an FX55 parts as 90nm. They must have got that info from somewhere, but I think if it is true they may have jumped the gun on listing it. I guess we shall see soon enough. What started this whole thing is the fact that there are zero FX55 units anywhere in distribution or resale at the moment with few ETA's posted if any.
DragonFire
02-09-2005, 08:46 PM
My FX-55 just died on me last week. Sent it back to AMD and I should get my new one next Tuesday. Maybe it will be a 90mm? Sadly there rma status page only lists the part number as ADAFX55 PIB.
They either have a mess of 130mm or a mess of 90mm because they got my chip the 8th and a new one was sent out the next day.
IvanAndreevich
02-09-2005, 10:18 PM
DragonFire
You'll probably get 05-something 0.13 core.
DragonFire
02-09-2005, 11:12 PM
DragonFire
You'll probably get 05-something 0.13 core.
I won't mind that so much as long as it runs better then my week 48 did....
xgman
02-10-2005, 07:48 AM
The AMD rep did some checking and now swears there is no plans for a 90nm fx55. The D&H part #'s are 13 parts even though they list the discriptions at "90nm" cpu's. As for when FX55's will be seen in better supply (or any supply), it looks like late Feb.
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-10-2005, 07:51 AM
The AMD rep did some checking and now swears there is no plans for a 90nm fx55. The D&H part #'s are 13 parts even though they list the discriptions at "90nm" cpu's. As for when FX55's will be seen in better supply (or any supply), it looks like late Feb.
:D Let him swear - FX-57 will be 0,09.............. :toast:
xgman
02-10-2005, 07:58 AM
It will be, but he said most likely in the same time frame as the current raodmap and no time soon.
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-10-2005, 08:03 AM
:D And I'm definetly sure it will be the first 0,09 without a subzero problem - so Q3 / 2005 will be an interesting one.
:toast:
terrace215
02-10-2005, 10:46 AM
The AMD rep may be trying to maintain the PR "surprise". Regarding the disti, perhaps D&H is the same one used by the iHUB guy, they also had the stale 130nm OPN. However, that guy tells us that the disti often uses stale OPN info when bringing up new parts, but that they have rarely, if ever, made a mistake regarding text-descriptions concerning process size, AND that they have now closed down the orders for the 130nm FX-55 listing, and only allow 90nm FX-55 orders.
I predict we will know more on Feb 14. That's when the 90nm 2.6GHz Opteron 252 is launching.
Gitsum
02-10-2005, 08:49 PM
New Egg and Zip ZoomFly have them back in stock.
blueworm
02-10-2005, 10:23 PM
New Egg and Zip ZoomFly have them back in stock.
1200 USD!!!!! :smileysex
Gitsum
02-10-2005, 11:06 PM
950 @ ZZF for retail box. Got mine.
New Egg is whack.
Stinger
02-11-2005, 03:31 AM
gitsum--> what stepping did you get?
950 @ ZZF for retail box. Got mine.
New Egg is whack.
AMD ain't able to ship these FX... I wonder where they were digging to get them?! :D
Rabidmoose171
02-11-2005, 06:42 AM
I mean the entire distribution and reseller channel is void of FX55. Any ideas why or what is going on with FX's? When is FX57 supposed to come out?
Its cuz charlie bought em all.
Gitsum
02-11-2005, 09:20 AM
I won't get it for a few more days. Will post the stepping then.
EDIT: Just checked ZZF and they are out of stock again. I wonder if they really had any at all last night, or maybe they found a couple behind some boxes in a corner. We'll see by the end of tonight if they ship it or not.
Gitsum
02-11-2005, 02:23 PM
Hmm, I'm getting suspicious now because the order is still processing and the other stuff that I ordered from them 12 hours later, has been shipped already.
RAINFIRE
02-11-2005, 09:23 PM
1. Here's a CNET Article (http://news.com.com/HP+to+debut+new+Opteron+servers+Monday/2100-1006_3-5571645.html?tag=nefd.top) that confirms the new Opteron 252 is 90nm and has SSE3. So, I the new rev/stepping of the FX-55 will be there Monday and also guess it will have SSE3. Just one more story to confirm the reports above.
I can't remember where I read it on AMD's board, but they're upgrading some of their other chips as well.
2. I sold my FX-55 and put in a 3500+. Right now $700 cheaper than the $975 FX-55 at Zipzoomfly.com. I ABSOLUTELY am satisfied with the downgrade. Rest of my components are pretty good, so I barely, if at all, notice any difference in 'my' real world use.
twilius_basic
02-12-2005, 10:11 AM
Any status update on order, Gitsum?
Gitsum
02-12-2005, 11:03 AM
Still shows "Processing". There is no cancel option either. Don't know what the deal is, but the mobo and vid card I ordered from them are on their way.
bloodklotte
02-12-2005, 11:19 AM
If it follows the normal trend, if you get FX-55's instock in the US late this month, we should get them in England late next month :(
I think they must swim over with them or sumthing. :)
blueworm
02-13-2005, 06:19 AM
1. Here's a CNET Article (http://news.com.com/HP+to+debut+new+Opteron+servers+Monday/2100-1006_3-5571645.html?tag=nefd.top) that confirms the new Opteron 252 is 90nm and has SSE3. So, I the new rev/stepping of the FX-55 will be there Monday and also guess it will have SSE3. Just one more story to confirm the reports above.
http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/Opteron_252.jpg
Taken from the inquirer.
BL suggests E core. Note the week amd has been hidding it for a while.
drcrawn
02-13-2005, 10:40 AM
Yes it is confirmed. The guy who posts the distributor data is reliable. And a tier 1 disti doesn't get things like that wrong. It makes sense, because the 90nm Opteron 252 is launching on the 14th, and that is also a 2.6GHz 90nm part with 1MB L2. (But 940 vs. 939 socket of the FX-55)
And it is confirmed that the Opteron 252 is using a core later than the other 90nm Opterons (Rev D4), and later than Winchester (Rev D). It might be Rev E, or an even later D revision.
Hopefully E, which will bring SSE3.
omg, drool, time to start selling stuff and my fx-53(s940)...
crap, will the 252 work on an asus sk8v?
terrace215
02-13-2005, 08:48 PM
I think the FX-55 90nm (which will also be Rev E) will launch either on Feb 21 (when Intel launches the 6xx series) or on Feb 28, which Monarch lists as their ETA for FX-55s.
Gitsum
02-14-2005, 03:01 PM
UPDATE: Four days after placing my order with ZipZoomFly for an FX-55 retail, which showed as in stock when I ordered, I get an e-mail saying they are temporarily out of stock with an ETA of 2/21/2005.
RAINFIRE
02-14-2005, 03:05 PM
UPDATE: Four days after placing my order with ZipZoomFly for an FX-55 retail, which showed as in stock when I ordered, I get an e-mail saying they are temporarily out of stock with an ETA of 2/21/2005.
Heh - look on the positive side. I'm betting it will be a 90nm version (if you call them and make sure they give you one of them).
Gitsum
02-14-2005, 03:31 PM
Maybe, but I have a feeling the new 90nm won't overclock as high.
kryptobs2000
02-14-2005, 05:06 PM
Why do you think that?
saaya
02-14-2005, 05:56 PM
maybe hold back supply to jack up price further throughout the channel ???
then they would let only slip small quantities into the channel, right now they are not selling any fx55 chips at all, thats now how you run a business :D
thx for the infos terrace215 :toast:
Gitsum
02-14-2005, 06:32 PM
Why do you think that?
Just cause it's a new process and all that. I don't know. Just my pecimism I guess. :(
kryptobs2000
02-14-2005, 07:21 PM
Well the winchesters overclocked very good, they had a crappy memory controller, they were amd's 1st 90nm processors and they didn't use SS, so I would think we'd beable to get at least 3.5ghz average on 90nm fx-55's
Gitsum
02-14-2005, 07:47 PM
Well, that is some optomism. Let's hope so.
jjcom
02-14-2005, 07:47 PM
yeah, 90nm chips with SS should be fairly nice
yeah, 90nm chips with SS should be fairly nice
I do hope so :D
J-Mag
02-17-2005, 03:41 PM
Just an FYI, the EGG got FX-55 in today... You got 1.2k to BLOW???
Gitsum
02-17-2005, 04:13 PM
I just got an e-mail from ZipZoomFly saying the FX-55 still on back order from AMD till March 4th now.
Pretty sure it will be new stepping.
have you called zzf? its possible they might know.
RAINFIRE
02-17-2005, 08:40 PM
I just got an e-mail from ZipZoomFly saying the FX-55 still on back order from AMD till March 4th now.
Pretty sure it will be new stepping.
You actually bought the AN8 - I had to go with the MSI
Gitsum
02-17-2005, 10:09 PM
Yes, I actually bought one. First guy on my block too.
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-18-2005, 02:25 PM
:D Anyone know when new FX-55 revision will come to Europe ???
:toast:
Frost_Bite
02-18-2005, 03:31 PM
I'm sure this has been talked about, but are there any confirmed reports about the 90nm 55 chips and the sub-zero bug? I've read alot of speculation, but I'd like to know for sure before I sell one of my current 55 chips for a 90nm one.
BTW: Monarch is only about 1HR from me, some when they get some I'm going to pick one up. I just have to sell one of my FX-55 chips to fund it :D
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-19-2005, 12:32 PM
I'm sure this has been talked about, but are there any confirmed reports about the 90nm 55 chips and the sub-zero bug? I've read alot of speculation, but I'd like to know for sure before I sell one of my current 55 chips for a 90nm one.
BTW: Monarch is only about 1HR from me, some when they get some I'm going to pick one up. I just have to sell one of my FX-55 chips to fund it :D
:D AFAIK the new FX-55 will only have a few changes like SSE3 and a better mem controller but 0.09 core will not come before Q3 / 2005 with the FX-57.
:toast:
rodman
02-19-2005, 12:57 PM
I can't beleive the FX-55 is almost 1,200 :eek: I was going to get one but they were out of stock. I waited and when they came in they were jacked to 1,200 bucks. I said screw that I can get a 3500 winnie for 300 and save 900.00 for the FX-57 ;)
HARDCORECLOCKER
02-19-2005, 01:05 PM
I can't beleive the FX-55 is almost 1,200 :eek: I was going to get one but they were out of stock. I waited and when they came in they were jacked to 1,200 bucks. I said screw that I can get a 3500 winnie for 300 and save 900.00 for the FX-57 ;)
:D May the power be with You rodman - clocking has always been an expensive hobby......... :toast: