so wheres that TCCD at high 2-2-2 timings?

[saaya]

some weeks ago the news broke in that the latest tccd ocs really high with 3.3v+ vdimm and 2-2-2 timings, but i havent seen anybody with tccd at high 2-2-2 speeds at all... anybody?

[haPpydUde]

you called? :D ya i have tccd ocz rev .2 that i bought a while ago in preperation for my dfi nf4, but since all i am running at is my infinity nf2 i threw it in there and started playing :toast: . Memtest 86+ and prime are stable at 260 3.3v 2-2-2 but the problem is nothin else is lol. I belive it to be a nf2 issue but freezes lockups sound cutting ect at those speeds but 250 is fine anyways enf of my talking here are some pics http://www.windywind.com/tccd%20268.bmp http://www.windywind.com/stable%20at%20260.bmp the mpbs is kinda low cause of multi used anyways cheers

[haPpydUde]

ps. sorry for the bad typing im in the middle of studying for my ccna exam that i got tommorow morning, so i really shouldnt be browsing this forum but hey im adicted. extended ps. if you want any more benches post what you want and i will try to get them done tommorow after i get home from work

[Gauss]

How much voltage? 3.3v? So TCCD it's also nice memory for let's say 3.3v? I thought this memory were ment to work nice just around 2.8v.

BTW, is GSkill more likely to achieve that 260 MHz 2-2-2 than OCZ Plat Rev2?
Which heatsinks people recommend for the GSkills?

[Murmlos]

Do tccd get burning hot with alot of V ? Is a fan required or recommended?
Do alla Tccd like high v and tight timings? Cos if they do, they are the best of two world, first alot of mhz with decent timings or high mhz and super timings :)

[haPpydUde]

If you want tight timings round 260 you should be looking at vx not tccd of any kind. TCCD is good for crazy high fsb. VX is good for the tight stuff. Hopefully i lucked out and got the best of both worlds.

[haPpydUde]

Yes they do get bloody hot. Not a problem since i havent used a case in a while tho. I just have 2 80mm fans laying over top the dimms and they are fine. And once again i would not recomend tccd for 2-2-2 action at decent fsb vx is the way to go if you want that. Cause you don't know when you buy tccd if it will like volts or not and MOST do not from the 1000's of posts i have read on the ram. Tho they do crazy high fsb. And there is no way to tell which kind does and which doesnt there are no dates or timings that say this one like volts this one doesnt. Its luck of the draw : either way you do choose tho tccd or vx your going to end up with kick ass ram !

[saaya]

How much voltage? i think its more than 3.3v

So TCCD it's also nice memory for let's say 3.3v? yepp, and even higher vdimm

I thought this memory were ment to work nice just around 2.8v. the old tccd errored when you gave it too much volts, the newer ones dont, they like higher vdimm. for 2-5 or 3 timings high vdimm doesnt help though, you still only need 2.6-2.8v for cas 2.5 and 3

BTW, is GSkill more likely to achieve that 260 MHz 2-2-2 than OCZ Plat Rev2?the sticks most likely to reach with speeds are the ones with the latest tccd chips. so the sticks that sell most are most likely with the latest chips, dont think theres a big difference between the brands.
you can contact ocz however, i think they make a series with tccd thats tested for high vdimm and 2-2-2 but im not sure.

Which heatsinks people recommend for the GSkills?bigger=better :D just dont take too big sinks so the stiks still fit in the board :D


Do tccd get burning hot with alot of V ? Is a fan required or recommended?
Do alla Tccd like high v and tight timings? Cos if they do, they are the best of two world, first alot of mhz with decent timings or high mhz and super timings :)
def! tccd gets incredibly hot with high vdimm!


Yes they do get bloody hot. Not a problem since i havent used a case in a while tho. I just have 2 80mm fans laying over top the dimms and they are fine. And once again i would not recomend tccd for 2-2-2 action at decent fsb vx is the way to go if you want that. Cause you don't know when you buy tccd if it will like volts or not and MOST do not from the 1000's of posts i have read on the ram. Tho they do crazy high fsb. And there is no way to tell which kind does and which doesnt there are no dates or timings that say this one like volts this one doesnt. Its luck of the draw : either way you do choose tho tccd or vx your going to end up with kick ass ram ! i heard all the latest tccd sticks clock pretty well with high vdimm and 2-2-2... it sjust seems many people dont even try it because they dont know about it :D

[Gauss]

i heard all the latest tccd sticks clock pretty well with high vdimm and 2-2-2... it sjust seems many people dont even try it because they dont know about it :D

Well, let's say GSkill LE, those seems to be the modules with the best selection of TCCD chips, is that right? I'm about to decide if VX or Gskill LE. One thing I'm sure is that I'll be using stock settings with normal usage, so VX running high voltage at stock speeds doesn't make sense for me. I just play let's say on weekends, where an OC would make sense. Uh, maybe I'd go for TCCD.

[reject]

wow, 3d2001 would love that ram
but since UTT is out other 2-2-2 cant really compare with the really cheap winbond
i spose new tccd has a massive compatibility tho, it would rock anything

[glock19owner]

you called? :D ya i have tccd ocz rev .2 that i bought a while ago in preperation for my dfi nf4, but since all i am running at is my infinity nf2 i threw it in there and started playing :toast: . Memtest 86+ and prime are stable at 260 3.3v 2-2-2 but the problem is nothin else is lol.

Makes me want to go get a booster now...the G. Skills I have can run 275/5-3-3-2.5 at 2.85v...now I am wondering if 275/5-2-2-2/2.5 is possible with 3.2v...

[MaxxxRacer]

humm... i wonder i wonder i wonder... i would like to test this... maybe i could do a direct 3.3volt mod for a day and test it out.. to bad i dont have a a64 chip at the moment..

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Burned my A-DATA DDR-600 TCCD at 3,6 Vdimm, ran perfectly for 2 weeks 2,5-3-3-5 at 280 with tweaked alpha timings, then get damaged by the voltage.
So be careful with TCCD and high Vdimm - in my opinion 2,9 - 3,0 is max to keep 'em healthy.

:toast:

[kristos]

Is it true that only the 440 chips like high V and the 437 don't?

[saaya]

Well, let's say GSkill LE, those seems to be the modules with the best selection of TCCD chips, is that right? I'm about to decide if VX or Gskill LE. One thing I'm sure is that I'll be using stock settings with normal usage, so VX running high voltage at stock speeds doesn't make sense for me. I just play let's say on weekends, where an OC would make sense. Uh, maybe I'd go for TCCD.

afaik they dont need high vdimm for stock speeds, they only need high vdimm for 2-2-2 timings and high speeds :)

and i think gskill only selects tccd after what the chips clock to with 2.5-3-3 and 3-4-4 timings, they dont sort them after what they clock with 2-2-2 timings...


Makes me want to go get a booster now...the G. Skills I have can run 275/5-3-3-2.5 at 2.85v...now I am wondering if 275/5-2-2-2/2.5 is possible with 3.2v...

lol, no way....


:D Burned my A-DATA DDR-600 TCCD at 3,6 Vdimm, ran perfectly for 2 weeks 2,5-3-3-5 at 280 with tweaked alpha timings, then get damaged by the voltage.
So be careful with TCCD and high Vdimm - in my opinion 2,9 - 3,0 is max to keep 'em healthy.

:toast:what cooling? i think heat killed them, not vdimm.


Is it true that only the 440 chips like high V and the 437 don't?
thats what i heard... chips before 0440 are the old revision of tccd, week dates after 0440 like vdimm and clock nicely with 2-2-2 and high vdimm

[sparkie34]

thats what i heard... chips before 0440 are the old revision of tccd, week dates after 0440 like vdimm and clock nicely with 2-2-2 and high vdimm


Really? I haven't seen more than one or two lucky people with sticks able to do 2-2-2 at 250mhz with 3+ volts.

[Jesus]

My TCCD ( Corsair XL) dork out at 260FSb (2,5-2-2-2-11-2T, DC 3,1V) but I presume that tha'ts just a NF2 problem.
On the other side on A mSI K8NE02 One stick achieved 285FSB 2,5-3-3-6 2,85V, whiwl oond A LP UT nF3250 they can't get stable at more that 230 ( oen of my budies is torturing them on his LP Ut board) which is pretty strange IMHO. Theese Corsairs need the 3,1-3,2V for 250FSB on Nf2 ( Infinity A+)

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

afaik they dont need high vdimm for stock speeds, they only need high vdimm for 2-2-2 timings and high speeds :)

and i think gskill only selects tccd after what the chips clock to with 2.5-3-3 and 3-4-4 timings, they dont sort them after what they clock with 2-2-2 timings...



lol, no way....

what cooling? i think heat killed them, not vdimm.

thats what i heard... chips before 0440 are the old revision of tccd, week dates after 0440 like vdimm and clock nicely with 2-2-2 and high vdimm

:D No - Vdimm killed 'em - there's always a 120mm fan blowing straight to the RAM slots, but they were 0437.

:toast:

[glock19owner]

Makes me want to go get a booster now...the G. Skills I have can run 275/5-3-3-2.5 at 2.85v...now I am wondering if 275/5-2-2-2/2.5 is possible with 3.2v...


and i think gskill only selects tccd after what the chips clock to with 2.5-3-3 and 3-4-4 timings, they dont sort them after what they clock with 2-2-2 timings...

lol, no way....

275/5-3-3-2.5/1T/1:1 Benchmarks (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=360907)

[kristos]

he was talking about you making 275/5-2-2-2/2.5 with 3.2v ;)

[glock19owner]

he was talking about you making 275/5-2-2-2/2.5 with 3.2v ;)

That part was sarcasim...I know they will never totally do 5-2-2-2/2.5...I might be able to push 5-2-3-2.5...but that would seriously be pusing everything..but even a suicide shot at 5-2-2-2/275/1T/1:1 would be nice to have...

[Onepagebook]

TCCD never do 2-2-2-5?
how about this? DDR460, 2-2-2-5 2.78v?:D
I will post pic from digital cam, if someone doubt it. :cool:

http://www.e04hardware.com/ocx/opb/nf4slidr/ddr4602225.jpg

[sparkie34]

I've seen 230mhz alot. Its just far and few between that will do 2-2-2 at 250mhz

[Onepagebook]

I've seen 230mhz alot. Its just far and few between that will do 2-2-2 at 250mhz


all with 512x2 1t? :confused:

[Dumo]

Is there really any tccd comfortably burned 3.3V? :eek:

[haPpydUde]

Umm OPB im at 260 prime bloody stable with tccd 2x512 2-2-2-8 so i can tell you its possible cause im living the dream. PS> i love you g.skill oc's man you rule 360fsb :slobber: :slobber: :toast: . Those pics where b4 i screwed my windows install i got a 264 sandra bench at those same speeds at a 271 screen. If OPB or anyone else wants proof or stablity tests just ask il post em when i get a chance. Keep in mind this is ALL on a bloody NF2 so im SHURE its the board limit. ppl asked yes its 3.26 under load anymore does not give any highier thus one of the man reasons i think its the boards fault its not even a lanparty its a infinity thats been thro hell and back and for some reason beyond me its still posting lol c ya

[saaya]

Really? I haven't seen more than one or two lucky people with sticks able to do 2-2-2 at 250mhz with 3+ volts.

me 2, thats why i made this thread ;)


My TCCD ( Corsair XL) dork out at 260FSb (2,5-2-2-2-11-2T, DC 3,1V) but I presume that tha'ts just a NF2 problem.
On the other side on A mSI K8NE02 One stick achieved 285FSB 2,5-3-3-6 2,85V, whiwl oond A LP UT nF3250 they can't get stable at more that 230 ( oen of my budies is torturing them on his LP Ut board) which is pretty strange IMHO. Theese Corsairs need the 3,1-3,2V for 250FSB on Nf2 ( Infinity A+)
i think tccd only clocks 10mhz higher with 2.5 compared to 2.0 if not even less, so it should run 2-2-2 at 250+ on another board :)


:D No - Vdimm killed 'em - there's always a 120mm fan blowing straight to the RAM slots, but they were 0437.

:toast:a fan alone might not be enough, from what i heard tccd gets REALLY hot at high vdimm, did you touch them under some time of load to see if they were hot/warm?


275/5-3-3-2.5/1T/1:1 Benchmarks (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=360907)
whats your point? that guy got 2.5-3-3, he was asking for 2.0-2-2 or 2.5-2-2!


TCCD never do 2-2-2-5?
how about this? DDR460, 2-2-2-5 2.78v?:D
I will post pic from digital cam, if someone doubt it. :cool:

http://www.e04hardware.com/ocx/opb/nf4slidr/ddr4602225.jpg
pfff 230mhz :P


Umm OPB im at 260 prime bloody stable with tccd 2x512 2-2-2-8 so i can tell you its possible cause im living the dream. PS> i love you g.skill oc's man you rule 360fsb :slobber: :slobber: :toast: . Those pics where b4 i screwed my windows install i got a 264 sandra bench at those same speeds at a 271 screen. If OPB or anyone else wants proof or stablity tests just ask il post em when i get a chance. Keep in mind this is ALL on a bloody NF2 so im SHURE its the board limit. ppl asked yes its 3.26 under load anymore does not give any highier thus one of the man reasons i think its the boards fault its not even a lanparty its a infinity thats been thro hell and back and for some reason beyond me its still posting lol c ya
pics? :D

[Rabbi_NZ]

haPpydUde,
looks like you're running 2T... to be honest I dont think it could do those speeds on another board when running 1T, or maybe even on 2T.

nF2 chipset has a tendency of "lying" when you run a dodgy modded BIOS or 2T command.
I've seen Hynix D43 do 230+ @ 2-2-2 on NF7 with 2T timing.... unless it's 1T i dont think it's worth taking seriously

[haPpydUde]

rabbi cpc is set to on in the bios. i don't know why it says 2t in sandra. Also what do u mean taking it seriously i don't understand? I am really busy with exams and all that since its the end of the year but after i get home from school tommorow i will run a whole series of benches ect and prime. Anyways back to what this thread is about... 2-2-2 with TCCD at nice high mhz anyone else running some? 250+? Cause if not i hold the wr for tccd 2-2-2 speeds lol sweet. Come on some one take it away its all bout freindly compatition.

[Rabbi_NZ]

Maybe i came across wrong... I take you seriously bro :), but 2T on nF2 acts dam strange.

I think it is 2T aswell... either that or it's single channel, cos your bandwidth is VERY low for 268 2-2-2

[edit] jus saw you are running a low multi... can you do a few benches for us at 9x or higher please?

[saaya]

bump for sick scores :D

[Umek]

My ex-Geil Ultra X TCCD, i have now the corsair pro

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/4553/264x10.jpg, this in single chanel, in dual 240mhz with 2-2-2-11, all in NF7S 1.7Vdd and 2.9v Vdimm

bye!!

[steve-0]

you called? :D ya i have tccd ocz rev .2 that i bought a while ago in preperation for my dfi nf4, but since all i am running at is my infinity nf2 i threw it in there and started playing :toast: . Memtest 86+ and prime are stable at 260 3.3v 2-2-2 but the problem is nothin else is lol. I belive it to be a nf2 issue but freezes lockups sound cutting ect at those speeds but 250 is fine anyways enf of my talking here are some pics http://www.windywind.com/tccd%20268.bmp http://www.windywind.com/stable%20at%20260.bmp the mpbs is kinda low cause of multi used anyways cheers

you are running 2T , right?

[steve-0]

in dual 240mhz with 2-2-2-11, all in NF7S 1.7Vdd and 2.9v Vdimm

bye!!

same question, 2T, right?

PS: ese dakine... XD

[Rabbi_NZ]

has anyone ever seen 240+ 2-2-2 TCCD with a NON-nF2 rig?

[Umek]

same question, 2T, right?

PS: ese dakine... XD

Always in 1T, esto del inglés no es lo mio steve-o xDDD

bye!!

[haPpydUde]

Hi im going to put my ram into a nf3 lanparty ut later today, but the boards vdimm limit is 3.1 so can someone PM me with a link to the 4v bios that everyone is talking bout. I know the board draws off the 3.3 line but thats fine since the powersupply im using 3.3 line is at almost 3.6. Thanks

[haPpydUde]

The sooner i get the link the sooner i can post some kickass benches. :D

[Rabbi_NZ]

you hav PM bro

[MaxxxRacer]

Saaya, here is my TCCD with tight timmings. Yes this is on a nf2 (depressingly slow). The board is the limiting factor here. The memory seems to want to keep going, but the board tops out at 245FSB.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23928&stc=1