View Full Version : 0501 FPMW 3500+ is a DUD!
MUCHO
01-30-2005, 09:49 PM
Set the memory divider at 133 so I would only be testing CPU.
Put voltage to 1.55 which is the max I figured I would run my friend's CPU at.
Damn thing only does a 1M superpi at 2550 - and can't run Prime there!
Ugh...I would suggest staying away from this week/stepping.
You've been warned!
By the way - its definately a 90nm - I'm not THAT much of a newb. I feel like such a jack - reccomending this CPU....
:(:(:(
MadMikeSS
01-30-2005, 09:54 PM
Don't feel bad, some of us with 3200's and 3000's can't break 2.6 no matter what. It seems to be a common thread around here. I know there are those who get lucky and get cpus that can do 2.7, 2.8 on stock volts and stock cooling. I don't know how they are doing it other than they must be the luckiest people on earth.
dnottis
01-30-2005, 09:58 PM
I've had 7 Winnies - only 1 broke 2.6 Ghz. :rolleyes:
Dissolved
01-30-2005, 10:12 PM
Winnies arent that great as there cracked up to be. steeping nor dates seem to matter much. its just you gotta test it and hope for the best.
might wanna try some burn in time too before you give up.
My winnie needs around 1.63v to break 2.6GHz, and it gets a little warm with my current cooling. I usually have it at around 2.5GHz 1.47v 24/7 though.
Seriously though, Winnies seem to be a really mixed bag in terms of OCing, some perform incredibly, and a fair few don't. Like said by dissolved, they're not all they're cracked up to be with some of the hype in their OCing potential, but it sure kicks the ass of my 3.0E @ 3.7GHz ;)
---dens
maxis
01-31-2005, 01:06 AM
Ohhhh.. First, hello to all, i'm new to forums :)
I'm in a process of moving from SocketA plattform to A64. Decided to go with Neo2/3200+ winnie. I got cpu and still waiting for mobo to arrive stepping is 0501 cpmw. Couldn't find any info about this stepping on net - but now that i see how DeNs cpu performs i'm kinda dissapointed..We'll see how it goes when mobo arrives, cheers everyone
idleuser
01-31-2005, 01:28 AM
Ohhhh.. First, hello to all, i'm new to forums :)
I'm in a process of moving from SocketA plattform to A64. Decided to go with Neo2/3200+ winnie. I got cpu and still waiting for mobo to arrive stepping is 0501 cpmw. Couldn't find any info about this stepping on net - but now that i see how DeNs cpu performs i'm kinda dissapointed..We'll see how it goes when mobo arrives, cheers everyone
it's either a hit or a miss, you can't really predict the overclocking potential of the winnie unless you try it out :) Again alot of things play into factor like ram, motherboard, cpu ect. I suggest you try it out but normally week 41 and up seems to do no worse than 2.5ghz.
RollerX
01-31-2005, 02:05 AM
I pushed a 3200 to 2.65 and now my new 3500 only does 2610... New 3200 on the way tho... It seems like a lot of winnies are limited to about 2.5-2.6.
I think mobo matters, too, I could not get my 3500 to go past 2.52 stable on the last mobo and with this one I can do 2.61. Last one had a taiwan NB chip and this one has a Korean chip, maybe that makes a difference, too...
orig3n
01-31-2005, 03:51 AM
what is the lowest vcore you can run stock speeds at? i rekon this is a good indicator of how much oc headroom it has and if something else might be stuffing your OC's :toast:
QuikSilver
01-31-2005, 04:00 AM
My 0450 3000+ winnie can only get up to 2.4GHz at 1.55V (highest voltage my board allows :( )
misteroadster
01-31-2005, 04:12 AM
Im one lucky of the lucky 3000+ owners , i can run stock speeds at 1V , 100% passive aircooling.
66° full
kakaroto
02-02-2005, 12:54 PM
@MUCH: What was the core? CBXXX? and the batch nr#?
XTCgr
02-21-2005, 04:49 PM
Ohhhh.. First, hello to all, i'm new to forums :)
I'm in a process of moving from SocketA plattform to A64. Decided to go with Neo2/3200+ winnie. I got cpu and still waiting for mobo to arrive stepping is 0501 cpmw. Couldn't find any info about this stepping on net - but now that i see how DeNs cpu performs i'm kinda dissapointed..We'll see how it goes when mobo arrives, cheers everyone
i got a 3000+ CBBID 0501CPMW... could y tell me how far did y cpu go? thnx :-)
Winnies arent that great as there cracked up to be. steeping nor dates seem to matter much. its just you gotta test it and hope for the best.
might wanna try some burn in time too before you give up.
Exactly. You're much better off with an AX core 2800 if budget performance is your thing (it's mine for sure) They cost $120 retial and will all clock 2500Mhz with stock HSF. Sometimes I think skt 754 is underrated/underplayed..no real good reason. OPP dominated 3dmark with one over FX's for weeks.
PS my 3000AX NC clocks exactly the same as my "lucky" 3000 winch (both ~2650 with +.1V). can't tell a difference at all.
joe2004
02-21-2005, 06:26 PM
Exactly. You're much better off with an AX core 2800 if budget performance is your thing (it's mine for sure) They cost $120 retial and will all clock 2500Mhz with stock HSF. Sometimes I think skt 754 is underrated/underplayed..no real good reason. OPP dominated 3dmark with one over FX's for weeks.
PS my 3000AX NC clocks exactly the same as my "lucky" 3000 winch (both ~2650 with +.1V). can't tell a difference at all.
Wrong. 754 socket is not on par with 939. If you get Newcastle 2.6 GHz there you will still be behind 2.5 GHz on Winnies in most benchmarks. It is simply the dual channel thing. If you can get Newcastle up to 2.8 GHz then we can talk about some competition. Else it is just an economy and nothing else. I turned my Clawhammer 3200 into a workhorse, it was never able to break better than 79 seconds on Superpi 2 MB. My Winnie did 71 seconds.
You don't know :banana::banana::banana::banana:. I've tested it myself. Only in some games and winrar some 3D rendering does winny come out on top. Everything else they are tied at same speed. Ponder this: a 3400 NC beats a 3500 in every benchmark.
http://www.behardware.com/articles/531/page1.html
It's all about price/performance and 754 always wins that. boards are signifigantly cheaper and so are processors for negigible hit in performance.