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Gajdycz
01-15-2005, 05:31 PM
amd 3500 90nm

on stock cooling/as5 with a lot of airflow, my asus probe says im at 33c idle

is this acurate? my bios says 37, and im going try ocing, so what is the average temps?

omega65
01-15-2005, 05:51 PM
I'm seeing 33-35C idle and 45-48C under load Testing with P95 @ 2.5ghz

Gajdycz
01-15-2005, 06:15 PM
thnx, what voltage?

i tried it at 220 with a multi at 10 and stock voltages and it was unstable, so shoul i raise it?

jjcom
01-15-2005, 06:47 PM
That sounds more like a RAM limitation. Try to up your RAM volts to 2.8v, if that doesn't help than start loosen your RAM timings to something like:
say stock is 2-3-2, try 2-3-3

jjcom

omega65
01-15-2005, 07:52 PM
thnx, what voltage?

i tried it at 220 with a multi at 10 and stock voltages and it was unstable, so shoul i raise it?

My 3200+ needs v1.5 to hit 2.5ghz :confused:

Alakazam
01-15-2005, 08:02 PM
Your bios temps will normally be higher than asus probe because of the halt command once Windows gets loaded, nothing to worry about there. My idle temps are around 34-35 this time of the year with my 3500 Winnie and depending on the load, as high as 45.

With my Asus board I need 1.45v on the cpu to run at 2500, I see you dropped the multi to 10 and upped the HTT to 220 which really isn't an overclock, it's still 2.2 gig.

Gajdycz
01-16-2005, 07:21 AM
i know i need it to be 240 or 230 to make it an overclock, it just that im a bit iffy with the voltages, isnt there like a chart on the forums that shows Oc/voltage/ and what not?

im going to try 230 or 225 with multi 10 and some voltage raiung, ill see how that goes.

btw, what the max voltage on a 3500 90nm week 37, and the v on corsair xms at 2-2-2-5?

jjcom
01-16-2005, 11:40 AM
1.6v shouldn't be bad for the Vcore, the RAM...I'm going to assume that its TCCD so 2.85v.

So yeah try out 225x10 with 1.45Vcore and 2.8v on the RAM with 2-3-2-x

jjcom

Alakazam
01-16-2005, 11:47 AM
What jjcom said should work just fine for a starting point, it's usually just a tedious process to find the right combo of settings for any particular board, cpu, and ram. There really isn't any "chart" per say for voltages, just too many varied parts for something like that, just good old fashioned patience and trial and error. Oh yeah, and a lot of reboots, hehe.

jjcom
01-16-2005, 11:51 AM
yeah, just a staring point after that you need to start pushing the FSB more. O'yeah you need to drop your HT multi down to something like 3x. Lots of reboots...and don't worry you'll find quirks...on my AN7 you can't save BIOS settings from the main BIOS screen...proubly some BIOS fix for it, but I'm too lazy currently to flash. Actually worried I'll cause a problem.

jjcom

Gajdycz
01-17-2005, 06:46 AM
so 1.45 on the vcore, should that get me up to 240 or 250, or will i have to go higher? i just got the chip and i dont want it to fry on me. ill just wait till i get my xp120

jjcom
01-17-2005, 09:24 AM
might work. You'll just have to see

jjcom

Gajdycz
01-17-2005, 10:10 AM
ok, i got to 230x10 with 1.425 and i did nothing to the ram. temps are the same, it barely goes up 3c after super pi, 1m. is that normal?


btw, my ram is the corsair xms, how much voltage can that take??

omega65
01-17-2005, 10:34 AM
P95 heats up my CPU a lot more than Super Pi does.

jjcom
01-17-2005, 11:46 AM
yeah, try out this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=672227#post672227
That thing will cause a nice heat increase.

As for RAM, pretty much any RAM is warentied up to 2.8v as far as I know. So 2.8v is fine, some RAM might have a higher warenty such as OCZ VX but I don't know for sure about your RAM. After you increase volts beyond 2.8v you need to run a fan on your RAM so they stay cool.

jjcom

Gajdycz
01-17-2005, 12:42 PM
ok, vcore is still 1.425 and the cpus at 240x10, no rise in temps

ill run prime 95 soon, seems stable, max ill go is 260, would i need a boost in vcore for that?

ok, orime 95 got it to 41-42c with torture test. im moving on

Gajdycz
01-17-2005, 03:00 PM
ok, i ran super pi at 32m, and i get the error; not convergetn sqr05, what does that mean?

AMDnewbie
01-17-2005, 03:14 PM
up the vcore to 1.52 @2.5 for my 0449 vpmw.
Only up to 1.5v then super pi 32M stable else I m running 1.45 too..
Idle:32 n prime load:40

Gajdycz
01-17-2005, 06:43 PM
yeah, at 240+ my system is unstable, up the vcore?

Alakazam
01-17-2005, 08:55 PM
Yes, that would be the next step, you can try 1.475 or just jump to 1.5 and take er up from there.

Gajdycz
01-18-2005, 03:19 PM
ok will try that soon, btw, what is the max temps and voltage for amd chips 90nm?

jjcom
01-18-2005, 03:32 PM
max volts...I would say something like 1.6v. Temps...52degree load temp max is my opition for any chip (other than Prescott)

jjcom

Gajdycz
01-19-2005, 05:54 PM
stable at 1.475 at 250x10, whats the best way to see if it is stable? superpi 32m?

ran 8m cals, highest temp is 42, no problems, will go for 260 tommorrow

jjcom
01-19-2005, 07:12 PM
Prime95 is good, SuperPi32M, 3Dmark2001 through 2005, and this S&M thing...search the forum for it

jjcom

omega65
01-20-2005, 10:06 AM
Super Pi 32M (~30mins)
Prime 95 >4hrs
3DMark 0x Loops
Then run your favorite app/game

If you pass them all you're stable! :up:

Gajdycz
01-20-2005, 12:42 PM
was running prime95 torture test, said error, check stress.txt, how do i do that?

was at 260x10 at 1.475 volts, up the volts or under clock?

another thing, failed the test at stock voltages and speed, top heat was 42-43c

Gajdycz
01-21-2005, 12:41 PM
Bump!

jumanji969
01-21-2005, 01:03 PM
Make sure everything is exactly as it should be for running the cpu stock. If it is and it still fails prime try some other program like S&M to test. If it fails both I would seriously consider rma'ing the cpu.

Almost forgot to make sure your ram is also memtest error free at its stock settings.

Gajdycz
01-21-2005, 01:44 PM
stock is stable, ill try to run a tirture test at 24x10, then back up to 260, if unstable ill go max up to 1.5 vcore