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mdzcpa
01-14-2005, 04:43 PM
Well, I sold off all my spare old hardware, remortgaged the house, and sold one of children into slavery so that I could scrape up the funds to do something completely silly like this:D

Here's the gear:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22579&stc=1

The new gaming rig will consist of my current FX 55 (which does 3.2ghz 24/7), my trusty Mach II, 2 x 6800 Ultras water cooled with the Swiftech H202B kit, 2 x 512 Corsair XMS 3200, Audigy 2, and a few other bits.

I'm not looking for crazy overclocks....just top of the line gaming goodness. I should have everything up and running tonight. I'll post back with results and opinions.

BTW, the Asus is only a temporary stand in. I'll be swapping to the DFI mobo when it shows up. I jumped on the Asus as I didn't want my 2 6800 just sitting here doing nothing.

More to follow soon.....

Playful_Buffalo
01-14-2005, 04:45 PM
nice,
ejoy it :D

eva2000
01-14-2005, 04:55 PM
nice to see someone else jump on SLI bandwagon :D ;)

tylerhskate
01-14-2005, 04:57 PM
You wont be taking full advantage of that speed for probly 2 years

missme
01-14-2005, 04:58 PM
how many children you have.....

god bless your wife

thephenom
01-14-2005, 04:59 PM
You wont be taking full advantage of that speed for probly 2 years
Until Quake 4 comes out. :p:

mdzcpa
01-14-2005, 05:06 PM
Holy Cow!! These 6800 Ultras are F'ing massive!! These picks do it no justice, but I think these cards have to weigh in at at least 2 lbs each. WTF is Nvidia thinking. If new hardware wasn't so darn fun to play with I'd be pissed. The cooling solutions on these cards is absurd.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22585&stc=1

Every part of those HSF units are metal sans the fan itself. These guys gotta get a grip.

eva2000
01-14-2005, 05:18 PM
woah those are some beefy heatsinks! makes my XFX 6800GT PCI-E Single slot heatsinks look puny LOL

http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_01_thumb.jpg (http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_01.JPG)http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_14_thumb.jpg (http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_14.JPG)http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_15_thumb.jpg (http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_15.JPG)http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_16_thumb.jpg (http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_16.JPG)

http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_17_thumb.jpg (http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_17.JPG)http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_18_thumb.jpg (http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_18.JPG)http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_19_thumb.jpg (http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_19.JPG)http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_20_thumb.jpg (http://fileshosts.com/videocards/PCI-E/XFX/6800GT/web/6800GT_20.JPG)

DudeMiester
01-14-2005, 05:20 PM
I dunno about you, but the bigger the better as far as I'm concerned. As long as both cards still fit in of course, lol.

shadowing
01-14-2005, 05:22 PM
WOW!! Those look huge compared to my 6800GT. Good luck with those.

graham_h
01-14-2005, 05:23 PM
may we ask where you bought them ?
they aren't even on Asus' website !!!

WesM63
01-14-2005, 05:29 PM
gameve had them in stock, don't know if they still do.

Very Nice Mike :)

I'll add another 6600GT once I get the DFI, just a Single NF4 for now :)

EDIT: They still do, if you have the cash... $835ea..

http://www.gameve.com/gve/Store/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=VC-ASUS-045

kiwi
01-14-2005, 05:30 PM
wow mdzcpa, nice hardware you have there. :slobber:
Good luck with SLI gaming exprience. :D

Kanavit
01-14-2005, 05:36 PM
Mdzcpa, i can feel the power. nice toys there.
can't wait to see some 03 scores. if i didn't already have doom3 copy, i would have asked you for one lol. i think nvidia should start selling SLI in dual packets in one box, whenever sli becomes more popular.

Eva2000 looks like you went awol as well. lol
and if i went SLI i would go for the GT version, definitely cheaper but still dam good.

mdzcpa
01-14-2005, 05:49 PM
I picked the Ultras up at zipzoomfly on Sunday before they hiked up the price to absurd levels. But I still paid waaay too much at $549 each.

Anyway, I'm still fiddling around with getting the hose perfect. I'm a stickler for keeping the cooling loop as short as possible. In the meantime, I'll be booting everything up here on air on the bench to make sure everything is working before I perform surgery on things for phase change and water cooling.

Kanavit
01-14-2005, 06:01 PM
hmm $549 aint bad at all. over my local computer shop has e-vga 6800 ultra 8xagp for $529.

yeah, def test it first. i would do full 72-hour burn in just to be safe.

Tirlista
01-14-2005, 06:02 PM
Wow!!!

Good luck with the gaming - you've got all the good gear there!
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When do the 6800 Ultras hit the market in quantity?

megahurtz-oc
01-14-2005, 06:41 PM
i want sli too and can afford but all this pricegouging is making me sick and i refuse to pay those prices soley on principal. i see the asus sli board came down to msrp price. but i fear by the time the ultras do there will be somthing better. and besides tylerskate is right there is no game out right now that needs that power. nice toys though :) enjoy

kristos
01-14-2005, 06:54 PM
lol, those cards look like you could kill yourself with them... by dropping them on your toes :D


nice setup you got their man :banana:

and i disagree, more is better, especially in fps games :D what are you going to play those games on, a sony wega theatre? :D

lalPOOO
01-14-2005, 07:01 PM
The absolute 'NEED' isn't there, but if you can play hl2@1600x1200 (or higher) with 8xAA 16xAF and get a respectable frame rate then you're definitely 'king of the ring' :D Lets see some numbers.

WesM63
01-14-2005, 07:18 PM
and i disagree, more is better, especially in fps games :D what are you going to play those games on, a sony wega theatre? :D


AFAIK, Mike has a 21" Mitsubishi Diamond Pro CRT.

DANZO
01-14-2005, 07:19 PM
Very nice wouldn't mind them myself.Can't wait to see what 3dmarks you get with those babys.

texuspete00
01-14-2005, 07:25 PM
Nice let me know the temps you get on those. I got a prommy-lian-li setup which limits me from an extravagant watercooling setup. But a single 120 rad and stuff I can do. Got 1xMCW50 and 1x6800GT on deck for now and will add another come the DFI board. I plan on bumping to Ultra's vcore so I imagine your temps would be a great reference for me.

Not a bad stand-in board(the Asus), I got a stinking Chaintech. :p:

ed.howell
01-14-2005, 07:56 PM
VERY nice setup you got!!! :slobber:

quicksilverXP
01-14-2005, 09:22 PM
Let me know how you do on those temps as well. I had the Asus A8N as well, and loved the spacing in between the SLI slots, but I opted for the Gigabyte because it clocked much better with a Winnie. But when I got my Gigabyte I realized how absurdly close the two SLI slots are, and I'm afraid the MSI and the DFI will follow suit. After putting my 6800GTs inside my Lian-Li, GPU reached up to 90 degrees Celsius. So I used one of the Zalman GPU coolers I got for review, and it lowered the load to 80 degrees.... :rolleyes: . So now I'm lookg for a good and neat watercooling solution, and was thinking about the new Koolance blocks since they're cheap and they cool the ram as well. But since you're trying swiftech, let me know how it goes. Here's a pic of my setup.

jikdoc
01-14-2005, 10:02 PM
what's the height on the zalman gpu cooler quicksilver? i can measure the height on my fusion HL waterblock and let you know if it'll fit. just from the look of things, it seems that a fusion SL will fit but you'll have to forgo ramsinks on 2 of the memory blocks. i'm not sure if that'll affect the memory oc that much if you have a fan blowing on the cards anyway.

gocchin
01-14-2005, 10:38 PM
What kind of PSU are you going to use for your SLI setup?

SmokeyTheBandit
01-14-2005, 10:56 PM
Nice m8 looks like an extreme gaming rig alright. :D :toast:

I got these for some nice gaming :)

2x Leadtek 6800 GT @ SLi

http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/pjm.honselaar/SLI/SLI_VF700_4.JPG

Ordered myself an MSI K8N Diamond to solve the 1T issues i and allot of people have with the asus :(

quicksilverXP
01-14-2005, 11:09 PM
I wanna avoid using GPU dedicated coolers as it will make SLI tubing harder since the inlets and outlets of the blocks are so close to the center of the cards towards the motherboard. This will making routing tubing harder and can either cause kinking or severe strain on the graphics card. Coolers such as Aquacomputer's AguaraFX (http://snt-systems.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=152) or Koolance's new GPU block (http://www.koolance.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=174) are both excellent blocks for tight SLI setups since they can cool both the ram and GPU to keep ambient temps down and also since they can rotate 360 degrees to directly connect one block to the other without having to use excess tubing. (The outlet of one barb can directly connect to the inlet of one barb nicely). However, this would mean the use of 90 degrees, but with a good high head pump such as an MCP350, and with the least amount of tubing used, I don't think it should effect temps much.

The PSU I'm using is the OCZ 600watt Powerstream. Handles an overclocked winnie to 2.75 and dual 6800 GTs just fine.

Nazaar
01-14-2005, 11:50 PM
gimme benchmarks :slobber:

confuzzedintel
01-15-2005, 12:03 AM
:slobber: you all are making me want SLI now evan tho im broke lol it looks awsome hope to see results soon

orig3n
01-15-2005, 12:20 AM
Very nice :slobber: comon lets see these beasts watercooled :banana:

IvanAndreevich
01-15-2005, 12:24 AM
Hm would NV5 silencers fit on 2 SLI cards? Those zalmans are nice, but all that heat in one case is going to be very bad unless you have nice airflow to take it right out.

orig3n
01-15-2005, 12:26 AM
Hm would NV5 silencers fit on 2 SLI cards? Those zalmans are nice, but all that heat in one case is going to be very bad unless you have nice airflow to take it right out.

I would love to know this to!!!!

I have 2 NV5 Silencers sitting on my desk waiting for my new cards because i want a cooler that cools the ram aswell and gets rid of the heat. I know these coolers fit the ASUS board fine due to the 2 slots between the cards but the DFI/Gigabyte boards i don't know about :(

Its the only thing that makes me think twice about the DFI :stick:

SmokeyTheBandit
01-15-2005, 01:44 AM
I would love to know this to!!!!

I have 2 NV5 Silencers sitting on my desk waiting for my new cards because i want a cooler that cools the ram aswell and gets rid of the heat. I know these coolers fit the ASUS board fine due to the 2 slots between the cards but the DFI/Gigabyte boards i don't know about :(

Its the only thing that makes me think twice about the DFI :stick:

Well im hoping the same the zalmans are getting very hot.
Since the asus got an extra pci slot between the pci-express slots.
The MSI havent got this advantage so the heat wille be much worse :(
Im hoping the Arctic will fit so the heat can be taken outside the case.

I got this with my 2x 6800 GTs @ SLi

http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/pjm.honselaar/3dMark/SLI_poging2.JPG

choseone214
01-15-2005, 04:23 AM
whats up "M"?? as always top shelf :)

don't get caught up in the "bench this so I can see how good it really is" crap :) you know whats good and whats not just by sitting in front of the rig :)

congrat's killer setup injoy.

megahurtz-oc
01-15-2005, 05:09 AM
1920x1200 :)

drunkenmaster
01-15-2005, 05:59 AM
what psu you got for your setup? i was having major issues with the thermaltake as i couldn't use the 3rd 8amp 12v rail(pci-e connectors are wrong pin out, dumbasses). But my 520W ocz was having a little trouble too. however both together, 1200W, and its running sweet as heck.

2 6800gt's, leadteks. As for silencers i'm not even convinced the higher card will be cooled effectively due to how close the fan will be to the lower card.
lower card clearly on any setup will be fine with a silencer. I think i'm going to bodge a shroud together for the higher card, leave stock sink as teh leadtek sink is pretty damned good, remove the rear pci plate, either stick a fan blowing onto the card from inside case or even stick a quite one drawing air through the card and out the back.

nice setup, not scoring great so far, 18k complete stock in 2k3. Need to do some tweaking sort out some better cooling for cpu and so on.

you're lucky to have better cards than i do, these leadtek fans NEVER slow down from max speed, so its loud as hell. ears have been hurting for 2 days now.

orig3n
01-15-2005, 06:18 AM
From what i have heard, the 520w powerstream may have a little trouble when overclocking but the 600w aparently has no issues :)

drunkenmaster
01-15-2005, 08:44 AM
tbh i'm only really using the thermaltake also as when i wired up the ocz and turned it on it got to bios and said i didn't have ez plug connected. i realised i'd left it unplugged as i'd just run out of connectors. Cos of those damned pci-e adaptors drawing power from 2 molex's each dvd, floppy, 3 hdd's, fans, i just ran out, i think i had one left but i couldn't make it stretch that far so i whacked the thermaltake in and shared the load a bit more also.

FlyBoyGeo
01-15-2005, 08:55 AM
The lights in Detroit will be dimming tonight huh...... :) I'd like to see some benches too.

uclajd
01-15-2005, 08:55 AM
Well, I sold off all my spare old hardware, remortgaged the house, and sold one of children into slavery so that I could scrape up the funds to do something completely silly like thisNice. But for that kind of investment, those cards deserve their own water cooling system.

althes
01-15-2005, 09:46 AM
That is a very nice setup.
Cant wait to see some benches.Wonder how my fortron wil handle the load, if I get the same setup.
I may just have to start selling some stuff.

Crankster
01-15-2005, 10:07 AM
Nice. But for that kind of investment, those cards deserve their own water cooling system.
He has a mach 2 GT for his CPU, a loop per card? Why?
Awesome rig you've got there, let us bask in the light of the benchies! :D

mdzcpa
01-15-2005, 07:06 PM
What kind of PSU are you going to use for your SLI setup?

I'm currently using the Antec NEO, but I don't think its gonna cut it when I get the phase change going. We'll see. I have a PCP&P 510 SLI on the way. It should have arrived yesterday but was delayed in shipping:(



He has a mach 2 GT for his CPU, a loop per card? Why?


Right on the money crankster! No need for dual loops at all. I'm using a twin 120mm fan rad and MCP600 pump. Plenty of cooling power for two GPUs on plain water.


Sorry for the delay in benchies guys. I'm letting everything burn in nice and slow. I want to make sure everything is rock solid on air before I stuff it into the Mach II. With this kind of investment (well, its a big nvestment for me anyway) I wanna make sure I don't need and RMA on anything.

Not to mention that its a big football weekend too!

I'll get some benchies up soon.

gocchin
01-15-2005, 08:00 PM
I'm currently using the Antec NEO, but I don't think its gonna cut it when I get the phase change going. We'll see. I have a PCP&P 510 SLI on the way. It should have arrived yesterday but was delayed in shipping:(




Let us know how the PCP&P goes especially when you start overclocking the cards... I'm looking at that PSU too... thanks!

orig3n
01-15-2005, 08:16 PM
You will need it i rekon, i hear the neo cant cut it :(, what the hell happened to Antec anyway, they havn't brought anything better out for a while... :stick:

IvanAndreevich
01-16-2005, 12:54 AM
orig3n
Yeah antec needs to make something worthy right about half a year ago :)

perry_78
01-16-2005, 02:17 AM
I picked the Ultras up at zipzoomfly on Sunday before they hiked up the price to absurd levels. But I still paid waaay too much at $549 each.

Just a little note, a NORMAL 6800Ultra on AGP is roughly $800 in DK...

Paxi
01-16-2005, 03:25 AM
nice setup.. dont forget to add some pics of your completed system if its finished and some results ;)

drunkenmaster
01-16-2005, 05:04 AM
for one thing, cheapest 6800gt in the states that i saw was $470ish and that wasn't in stock. seen some at $700, $549 here is around £280-290, thats cheaper than our 6800gt's by some $80. Haven't seen ultra pci-e's in stock anywhere in europe, there are very few worldwide, $549 is a freaking steal.

I have to say my guess is the 480neo won't cut it. I don't understand why the deluxe sli pcp&p only added a pci-e connector, shoulda upgraded it to 600W too. I'm quite happy with my dual psu setup. Though when i'm changing stuff if i turn off the wrong psu at the switch first then the other starts to power up, do'h, sure that can't be good.

I might pick up a 600W Ocz when they drop in price here(equivilent to $300 or so at the moment) and see about ditching one psu.

I'm still considering ditching my 6800gt's as they are so loud and going ATi. at least unlike my 6600gt gigabyte they run fine with other fans, as soon as i take the fan lead out of the gfx connector on the 6600gt it refuses to run at full speed, stupid ass design.

gone past 21k 2k3 and just about beyond 10k 2k5, 2k1 i wish it would work with as a 26k 2k1 rig just seems lame :p having major issues getting a decent cpu/fsb clock with such low voltage available :(

megahurtz-oc
01-16-2005, 06:22 AM
i cant believe zzf sold them for 549 when everything else in the 6800 variety is price gouged to hell.

Shahid_2dk
01-16-2005, 08:14 AM
Awesome system you got there mate, come on with the results

mdzcpa
01-16-2005, 09:19 AM
Delays, Delays.

Well I'm struggling a bit with getting the perfect water cooling set going or I'd have some benching goodness for all of you already. I'm having difficulty finding the right chipset water block which can fit.

I'd really like to leave the stock memory cooling on the card as it is extremely beefy. I planned on putting some fan action in the mix to blow accross the memory heatsinks and the OEM unit is sweet for that purpose. This however presents some real fitment issues. The MCW20 will not fit. So I'm running to the local pc shop and picking up one of those zalman chipset coolers. Its much more low profile and might fit with those whopping Ultra memory heatsinks in place.

I originally set up the cooling loop without the chipset cooler when it didn't fit (see below), but I've changed my mind and want to get the chipset cooled as well if I possibly can. Make no mistake, I know you have all heard this before, but the chipset gets HOT, and I mean HOT. By far the hottest chipset I've encountered in quite some time. The heat, in my opinion, has got to be a limitation on this mobo if not held in check.

I know you guys are hungry for some benches, but please be patient, I'm picky about getting things done right the first time!


Anyway, here are some pics to show you what I'm referring to:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22748&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22749&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22751&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22752&stc=1



i cant believe zzf sold them for 549 when everything else in the 6800 variety is price gouged to hell.

BTW, within hours of my purchase, ZZF upped the price to $699, then to $799, then $899!!! I posted on XS when I saw them at $549 but they didn't stay there long:(

Shahid_2dk
01-16-2005, 09:21 AM
Awesome

mdzcpa
01-16-2005, 09:24 AM
BTW, the comments about how much is spent on this and that don't phase me at all. I work hard for what I have and I make no excuses for anyone. I'm sorry if posting about this stuff makes some folks uncomfortable with what they can afford, or wish to spend.

LOL...not much here at XS is meant to be practical:D

That's all I'll say on this topic:)

Hombre
01-16-2005, 09:29 AM
Hmmm.... did you got your 510SLI yet? Do you have a digital multimeter nearby so you can show us some results? ;)

fagin
01-16-2005, 09:30 AM
I have two Leadtek 6800 PCIe as well - the fan on them is bigger than on the AGP ones, but I had an NV5 kicking about and fitted it for laughs, using AS5. No testing done, as my MB is knackered on the secondary PCIe slot, but it fits better than the Leadtek cooling brick! :) Could push this card to 414/1150 prior to cooler - using coolbits. After 425/1190, so I would guess I'll actually be running it a bit lower than that, but not until a replacement MB comes in stock! I'll ait for DFI now methinks!

ed.howell
01-16-2005, 09:30 AM
BTW, the comments about how much is spent on this and that don't phase me at all. I work hard for what I have and I make no excuses for anyone. I'm sorry if posting about this stuff makes some folks uncomfortable with what they can afford, or wish to spend.

LOL...not much here at XS is meant to be practical:D

That's all I'll say on this topic:)

Nicely put. That's why they call it XTREME, right!!
I see your from the Detroit area, so am I!! Where are you located?

mdzcpa
01-16-2005, 09:36 AM
Hmmm.... did you got your 510SLI yet? Do you have a digital multimeter nearby so you can show us some results? ;)

No:( It was suppose to be hear already too! It's holding me up! I want that PSU before I put everything into the MACH 2 case.

I do have a meter. I'll definitely put the SLI through its paces and report some info on it when it arrives (hopefully moday).


EDIT- btw I'm in royal oak ed.howell

ed.howell
01-16-2005, 09:48 AM
EDIT- btw I'm in royal oak ed.howell

Small world, I am in Clawson!!

drunkenmaster
01-16-2005, 09:51 AM
what i find so funny, and tried to point out is, $549 is a damned average price for a GT, if not lower than half the gt's available in the states so how its a waste of money i can't see at all. People seem to be saying you should have spend same or more on a GT to save cash. Some people just don't use their brains, and it does sound rather like they are saying it just to be petty rather than mean it.

Good luck with the rig though. I'm trying to find a way to fit a fan well into a case to cool both gfx cards. stupid zalman bracket i was going to use touches the damned sli connector.

FallenAngel
01-16-2005, 10:00 AM
Good stuff you got there mdzcpa, don't mind the winny's, they are only jealous...

charlie
01-16-2005, 10:19 AM
BTW, the comments about how much is spent on this and that don't phase me at all. I work hard for what I have and I make no excuses for anyone. I'm sorry if posting about this stuff makes some folks uncomfortable with what they can afford, or wish to spend.

LOL...not much here at XS is meant to be practical:D

That's all I'll say on this topic:)

Good for you! Don't even listen to those peeps. This IS XTREME and those 2lb. gems are just amazing.... take your time and have FUN!!!

C

del_fuego
01-16-2005, 10:20 AM
BTW, the comments about how much is spent on this and that don't phase me at all. I work hard for what I have and I make no excuses for anyone.

Damn right. The only thing that should phase is the mach. If i could find Ultras for the price you did i'd get at least three, for resale purposes ;)

Enjoy what your hard work has earned you and keep us posted about the pcp&c.

Cheers, dEl. :toast:

choseone214
01-16-2005, 10:33 AM
OCZ 600w PSU is what you should get. I'VE TRIED BOTH AND THE 600W ocz EATS THE PCPOWER ALIVE!!

ed.howell
01-16-2005, 10:45 AM
OCZ 600w PSU is what you should get. I'VE TRIED BOTH AND THE 600W ocz EATS THE PCPOWER ALIVE!!

Man you just started a WAR!!! :eek:

Grov
01-16-2005, 10:59 AM
The absolute 'NEED' isn't there, but if you can play hl2@1600x1200 (or higher) with 8xAA 16xAF and get a respectable frame rate then you're definitely 'king of the ring' :D Lets see some numbers.

I already do that with a lowly AGP card, and lowly socket 754! ;)

Dam, sweet, sweet setup, but definatly not worth it. It would be if all games took advantage of SLI, but they don't.

quicksilverXP
01-16-2005, 11:28 AM
This pic migh help you with the NB. It's the Zalman waterblock for VGAs I believe. Don't know if the mounts lineup, but you can always just use thermal tape since the NB blocks are always light. This is from hothardware.

*edit* this isn't mine.. it's from hothardware

http://www.hothardware.com/articleimages/item626/big_IMG_0483.JPG

drunkenmaster
01-16-2005, 12:22 PM
games will soon enough take advantage, ok so doom 3 is pretty much the exception but games will be out on its engine in not long, and there are LOADS of games out in feb this year of which some look graphically immense. When it comes to drivers they'll get better and work better in more games.

Seems to me a good way to go with motherboards in the future is move cases to have a good 1.5 -2 inch's space behind them as a standard. That way theres enough space for ok airflow and caps and other things, if you can remove some stuff like that to the rearside you can have less clearance issues on the front side, it seems weird now but theres no real reason not to.

Hombre
01-16-2005, 12:37 PM
No:( It was suppose to be hear already too! It's holding me up! I want that PSU before I put everything into the MACH 2 case.

I do have a meter. I'll definitely put the SLI through its paces and report some info on it when it arrives (hopefully moday).


EDIT- btw I'm in royal oak ed.howell

Ohhh well... looking forward to your results...
If they wil be good I'll feel much more convenient buying the 200$ 510W instead of the 400$ 850W if you know what I mean...

Anyway great system have fun and all the rest of us are now :owned: :bananal:

fagin
01-16-2005, 01:06 PM
As already said - this IS XTREME so -WTG! My only thought is that W/Cing them will you get much more out of them than GTs? On the memory yes - but the core? Having said that - if you are splurging that much money then in for a penny in for a pound! I bought GTs because thats what was available! Just wish I could afford the phase change to go with the rest of the system - oh and the FX55!

Crankster
01-17-2005, 06:36 AM
Talking about his gear being unneeded and too expensive is very rude.

Just waiting for the benches now... Might even put my hifi on sale to buy something similar...
Or mortgage the appartment :D

Karnivore
01-17-2005, 09:38 AM
BTW, the comments about how much is spent on this and that don't phase me at all. I work hard for what I have and I make no excuses for anyone. I'm sorry if posting about this stuff makes some folks uncomfortable with what they can afford, or wish to spend.

LOL...not much here at XS is meant to be practical:D

That's all I'll say on this topic:)


Fantastic setup, as always Mike, although its not hard to predict what is in your machine :) all we need is some knowledge of the current "Top Shelf" gear! Really look forward to your results, anything SLI interests me as thats what my sights are set on for the next rig :D

A couple of the posts that had no use other use then to try and provoke something have magically vanished, as will like posts in this thread.

I guess some people just have way to much time on their hands :rolleyes:





Man you just started a WAR!!! :eek:

Your probably right, but I have a feeling this thread has ventured as far off topic as its going to ;)

c7775
01-17-2005, 10:13 AM
Guys ANYONE have any idea if there are SERIAL ATA locks on this motherboard?

PCI and PIC-E locks are working fantastically for me but i have just
bought two new Serial ATAs and i dont know whether they will be ok

with 350Fsb (1750HTT) ??? my 3000+ runs at 7.5X350

c7775
01-17-2005, 10:25 AM
Adjustable FSB/DDR ratio. Fixed PCIe/PCI/SATA frequencies.
from the [H] review of the board

mdzcpa
01-17-2005, 10:50 AM
Fantastic setup, as always Mike, although its not hard to predict what is in your machine :) all we need is some knowledge of the current "Top Shelf" gear! Really look forward to your results, anything SLI interests me as thats what my sights are set on for the next rig :D

Thanks for the support:toast:



Guys ANYONE have any idea if there are SERIAL ATA locks on this motherboard?

PCI and PIC-E locks are working fantastically for me but i have just
bought two new Serial ATAs and i dont know whether they will be ok



Yes, the board has serial ata locks that work. I've had the board up to 270HTT sitting here with air cooling. They NB chipset gets super hot though. That is why I am delayed here...I'm looking for the Zalman waterblock to cool the NB with. Local PC shop did not have it, so I ordered one up from the net. I should be up and running with water cooled GPUs and chipset, and Mach II cooled CPU by Wednesday.

In the meantime, I'm getting tired of waiting around, so I may try my hand at some air cooled only benches if you guys are interested in that. I will need to stop at microcenter and pick up a real AMD64 HSF unti though...what I am using now barely keeps the FX55 cool at stock speeds (its an aluminum HSF from a retail 3500 kit).

Karnivore
01-17-2005, 11:01 AM
In the meantime, I'm getting tired of waiting around, so I may try my hand at some air cooled only benches if you guys are interested in that. I will need to stop at microcenter and pick up a real AMD64 HSF unti though...what I am using now barely keeps the FX55 cool at stock speeds (its an aluminum HSF from a retail 3500 kit).

Anything you provide will be great! look forward to the not so xtreme, as well as the xtreme :p:

choseone214
01-17-2005, 11:02 AM
what I am using now barely keeps the FX55 cool at stock speeds (its an aluminum HSF from a retail 3500 kit).

macci got his fx55 to 2800mhz+@1.55v on a 3000+ cooler. :)
Is your fx55 a hot running chip? I wouldn't think so becasue of the great PChange clocks :)

WesM63
01-17-2005, 11:20 AM
Lets see em mike :)

I can top my 3200+ winnie out on the boxed air cooler and it only hits 42c load :)

urbanfox
01-17-2005, 11:33 AM
Man I would love to see some EQ2 numbers with this machine.

lalPOOO
01-17-2005, 12:28 PM
I already do that with a lowly AGP card, and lowly socket 754! ;)

Dam, sweet, sweet setup, but definatly not worth it. It would be if all games took advantage of SLI, but they don't.

I'm talking about solid 80s :p:

Blue078
01-17-2005, 12:48 PM
mdzcpa

The low vcore of the ASUS AN8 isnt holding you back any ??? Or is their a BIOS out with higher vcore?

I keep seeing some nice clocks around on the net, but all the CPUz screens show around 1.6 for vcore, how the heck even frozen can any A64 do 2.9 or 3G with 1.6 vcore :confused:

Could have bought this board the other day but passed, becaus my 3500+ needs 1.8 vcore to max out frozen

megahurtz-oc
01-17-2005, 12:52 PM
my ls cooled fx-55 does 3.2g at 1.55 vcore:) 1.60 is plenty for me antways.

Player0
01-17-2005, 01:26 PM
Wow, great new toy Mike, cant wait to see what it does.

I cant imagine ever getting that to fit in my little case LOL.

I can certainly see the need. My 9800XT aint worth crap anymore (when did that happen *whine*) and struggles with all the new games. Going to a 6800 Ultra isnt a huge leap over the 9800XT tho, and is probably *just* enough to do decently on all current games. For future proof, SLI is the way to go.

Though, I think when my NF4 comes, Ill stick with one 6800 for now and add a second one later when I dont have heating bills lol.

Player0
01-18-2005, 02:36 PM
Anyone got dibs on that Asus when your done with it? ;)

mdzcpa
01-18-2005, 07:24 PM
mdzcpa

The low vcore of the ASUS AN8 isnt holding you back any ??? Or is their a BIOS out with higher vcore?



Unbforutnately, due to not having the right fitting NB waterblock, I've not had the board under phase change yet. I'll know soon now. I have all the peices in place and should start some real benching tomorrow (wednesday).


Anyone got dibs on that Asus when your done with it? ;)

You do if you'd like;) I always offer great deals too!

Blue078
01-18-2005, 07:49 PM
Unbforutnately, due to not having the right fitting NB waterblock, I've not had the board under phase change yet. I'll know soon now. I have all the peices in place and should start some real benching tomorrow (wednesday).

OK thanks mdzcpa, will keep an eye on this thread, and your progress :)

Feiticeira
01-19-2005, 03:11 AM
Hope u get that block sorted soon m8, results should be interesting

Hallowed
01-19-2005, 04:07 AM
Air benches would be fantastic Mike. Some of us are too lazy to go WC anymore. :D

And any opinions on how much CPU drag SLi causes.

gocchin
01-19-2005, 08:36 AM
mdzcpa, hope you don't mind me posting my results here... (don't want to start a whole new thread...)

I posted this over at XR but thought I'd share it here too...

So after battling through the crappy Asus bios and stuggling to get even windows loaded. I finally got everything put together right after 2am. The bios is not fun at all. Suprisingly my OCZ 520w psu is having no problems with 2 ultra's an FX-55 and a Koolance Exos hooked up. Whether or not it's limiting my OC is yet to be seen.

With the vdimm at 3.0 I couldn't really take advantage of my Mushkin Level2's... I couldn't get them over 230 1:1 1.5-2-2-5. Going at 13x227 with those timings and an okay OC of the Ultra's at 460/605 I was able to get a score of 23370 in 3dmark03 without any major tweaking yet....

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?c=2875015_2

EDIT: scored 23616 with a bit of tweaking http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3607362

I hope to break 24000 at least with this setup. It'd be nice to get those Ultra's on water definitely. The don't seem to be the best OC'ers on air. I'm going to give the g.skill Sierra sent me a try tonight but in preliminary testing I was able to get the 2x256 LE up between 270 + 280 1:1 2.5-3-3-7 without crashing. I benched at 270 but scored 800 points lower than my bh-5 at 227 (must be my timings)....

Well I always take pics and here they are:

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli01.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli02.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli03.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli04.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli05.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli06.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli07.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli08.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli09.jpg

http://www.jpop.com/sli/sli10.jpg

eva2000
01-19-2005, 08:43 AM
nice gocchin.. nice 460mhz on core :)

gocchin
01-19-2005, 08:50 AM
nice gocchin.. nice 460mhz on core :)

Thanks eva, I don't even know if that's good. I'm an ATI guy ^_^... hopefully I can get more out of it on water....

One cool thing is that the serial numbers of the two cards were consectutive... so they are like brothers or something.... :D

eva2000
01-19-2005, 08:56 AM
yeah my 2x XFX 6800GT PCI-E serial numbers are consectutive as well :)

gocchin
01-19-2005, 09:02 AM
maybe they are doing the matched pair thing like sticks of ram.... ;)

Paxi
01-19-2005, 09:04 AM
also real nice SLI 6800U setup gocchin.. :D
how much have you payd for the 2 6800u´s btw where have you bought them?

gocchin
01-19-2005, 09:13 AM
They definitely were not cheap.... around 640USD each.... but they were in stock at the time and seeing how limited they have been I snatched them up... not as sweet a deal as what mdzcpa got his for!!

http://www.us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=13812&vpn=256-P2-N377-AX&manufacture=eVGA

MarilynMX
01-19-2005, 09:26 AM
How can you bear with two stock HSF? my single eVGA 6800U is already way too loud :(

eva2000
01-19-2005, 09:28 AM
easy use a delta 190cfm fan to cool your cpu, will cover up the heatsink fan noise :) ;)

SAE
01-19-2005, 07:28 PM
Great new setups here... :thumbsup:

I wish the 6800U were available in Europe... and for a reasonable price, of course ;)

kickassclone
01-19-2005, 07:49 PM
BTW, the comments about how much is spent on this and that don't phase me at all. I work hard for what I have and I make no excuses for anyone. I'm sorry if posting about this stuff makes some folks uncomfortable with what they can afford, or wish to spend.

LOL...not much here at XS is meant to be practical:D

That's all I'll say on this topic:)


I get that all the time too. You have to remember that you are dealing with kids most of the time that have to save lunch money for a year to buy a 9800pro.

Most guys can't fathom that I fly fish with a $600 rod and a $550 reel. One of my fly setups costs more than both those 6800ultras but that is what I like to spend my money on. Let us know when those benchies get done. That is gonna be one nice arse rig. Way to go man.
:toast:

computerpro3
01-19-2005, 08:01 PM
agreed. Be proud of what you earned!

p0rl1n
01-27-2005, 06:27 PM
any updates, mike?

mdzcpa
01-27-2005, 07:07 PM
Yep. I'm up and running :

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23372&stc=1


Performance is good:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23370&stc=1

3DMark 2005 10,881 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=525278

It runs smooth and fast. The asus is not the best OCer, but it is a very stable and strong performing mobo.

Ive been bad giving updates as I've been working a bunch of overtime (gotta pay for this habit ;) )

SAE
01-28-2005, 08:02 AM
Looking good, mate :thumbsup:

How warm do these Ultras get?

mdzcpa
01-28-2005, 11:15 AM
On water the cores never hit much above 51c. The memory does pretty good as well with the stock heatsink and a small fan on them.

saaya
01-28-2005, 11:54 AM
50°C! :eek: wow...

gocchin
01-28-2005, 12:10 PM
good scores mdzcpa! I was able to score 10727 for 05 and 23853 for 03... FX-55 cooled by a Koolance Exos and the 2 eVGA Ultras at 473/1215 on air. I'm looking at getting them on some water to try an improve those scores. Getting my new Vapochill LS set up this weekend should help a little bit.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3610850
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=501431

Playful_Buffalo
01-28-2005, 04:00 PM
Nice Scores mdzcpa :)

enjoy your updated setup :D

lutjens
01-28-2005, 08:58 PM
Very nice setup...you have to tempt me, don't you? I promised the next upgrade would be to duallie dual cores with SLI...and dammit, I'm gonna resist the urge!!:)

One helluva 3DMark score you got...puts my little POS system to shame.;)


I'm holding out for one of these...

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20040911/image/niwd7.html


Everytime I look at that pic and think about two dual core CPUs on it, I end up wiping drool off my desk...;)

eva2000
01-28-2005, 09:27 PM
On water the cores never hit much above 51c. The memory does pretty good as well with the stock heatsink and a small fan on them.

did you leave the stock fluffy ram pads with the stock ramsink or remove those for some thermal paste ?

SAE
01-29-2005, 05:00 AM
On water the cores never hit much above 51c. The memory does pretty good as well with the stock heatsink and a small fan on them.
Thanks, mate :)

Quite good temps, I remember hearing of 80°C under stress from some peeps... (aircooled)

mdzcpa
01-29-2005, 05:54 AM
did you leave the stock fluffy ram pads with the stock ramsink or remove those for some thermal paste ?

I've left everything stock on the memory so far.

I'll be doing something differnt with the memory as well as flashing the car BIOS for 1.5v this weekend:)

althes
01-29-2005, 09:18 AM
Its the weekend, any new updates.

eva2000
01-29-2005, 09:22 AM
I've left everything stock on the memory so far.

I'll be doing something differnt with the memory as well as flashing the car BIOS for 1.5v this weekend:)
let us know how it goes and pics please :)