i did it, going to try out tccd Gskill LE

[Kanavit]

I just hit the order button from newegg, $275 on Gskill 4400 tccd LE 1gb dual channel kit, for my A64 3500+ newcastle today. I am quite excited and can't wait to see what she can do.

2-2-2-5, 1T here i come, now i will get to see what the A64 can really do.
hope my order gets here friday, i can't wait man!! :banana: :banana4:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/Jagatard/4.jpg

[dreamworkz]

you'll wont regret it man...best I did with the le's were 280 2.5-3-3-7 but the cpu was limiting me...DUDE!!! YOUR GETTING GSKILLS!!!! :rocker:

[DoGMaN]

Good Choice! I just ordered 4 Gigs :D Hopefully one will do 300MHz 1t

[Kanavit]

thx all , lol. i am official gskill fan now. woot.
i've read people getting ridiculous oc with gskill; like this one dude did 275mhz Cas 2.5-3-3-7, 1t @ 2.7 volts! tccd + brainpower pcb. i can't believe i actually went all out on ram. didn't skimp on price this time, money no object here! i want the best ram. all i want is 27K in '01, 76k aq3. i think 230mhz @ cas 2-2-2-5, 1t will bring me that.

i know i only have a 3500+ newcastle, and i don't expect this baby to o/c much with stock cooling, since the gskill ram will definitely force cpu to run hotter with shorter timings. I already am choosing a new cooler for my cpu at my local pc shop. its' this one.

[OCForums_Osirs]

Agreed, I own the same Gskill Ram. highest I have had it is 289mhz 1:1 with 2.5-4-8-4 1T with 2.7vlots. You will love it. trust me.

[charlie]

....Grats.

C

[Kanavit]

thx Charlie :) , benchies definitely coming soon. it's double sided sticks, so i'm kinda scared. not sure how my A64 controller will handle it. but, only one way to find out, right? :p

[OCForums_Osirs]

I wouldnt worry about it. Ive only heard of the controllers not being able to handle high HTT (300+).
Good luck with it though!

[Kanavit]

thx OCforums Osirs, nice to have you aboard Xs!!

[Stumpjumper5200]

How does this compare to the LA?

[Kanavit]

How does this compare to the LA?
i wasn't entirely confident with LAs myself , that is why i decided to go with LE. LA only comes with 2x256mb which isn't nearly enough for what i wanted. even though it's the same samsung tccd chips, i didnt want to get anything less than the best, because then if my ram doesn't do desired timings , i will have nothing to blame. :p:

[SuperDude]

kaaaaaaaanavit. Give me your old 3400+ :D i need a better multiplier ^_^ <3 amd forums

[Jupiler]

Good choice, Kanavit.
I'm sure you'll like them.

I have the PC4800 LA sticks myself.
Unfortunately, the mem controller of my 3200+ winnie is crap. Can't run at 275Mhz, 2.5-3-3-7, 1T, not even with 1 stick.

On my DFI Ut250Gb, this memory really flies.
Was able to run Memtest errorfree at 290Mhz, 2.5-3-3-7, 1T.
Go figure.

Good luck with them, and don't forget to post some results.

[DoGMaN]

Kanavit - go for the CoolerMaster Hyper6. The Tt Tower112 is HUGE and doesn't really offer any better performance. The Tower112 is nice though because you can use 92mm fans. The weird mounting may cause issues with certain motherboards too.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

i wasn't entirely confident with LAs myself , that is why i decided to go with LE. LA only comes with 2x256mb which isn't nearly enough for what i wanted. even though it's the same samsung tccd chips, i didnt want to get anything less than the best, because then if my ram doesn't do desired timings , i will have nothing to blame. :p:

:D Not true dude - here's LA 1GB:

klick me (http://www.oc-wear.de/pd-1609275420.htm?categoryId=24)

:toast:

[Kanavit]

Kanavit - go for the CoolerMaster Hyper6. The Tt Tower112 is HUGE and doesn't really offer any better performance. The Tower112 is nice though because you can use 92mm fans. The weird mounting may cause issues with certain motherboards too.
thx Dogman, ill look up on it. Does the CoolerMaster Hyper6 use the same pipe technology?

Hardcoreclocker, thx didn't see any 1gb LAs at newegg. wow, those are expensive! I just got some info that LAs tccd are just as good as LEs. can someone confirm this?

[bias_hjorth]

I am sure you wont regret your recently bought kanavit although dont get your hopes up in terms of: "2-2-2-5, 1T "
But I am sure yours would fly of the s939 :=)

[DoGMaN]

thx Dogman, ill look up on it. Does the CoolerMaster Hyper6 use the same pipe technology?

Yes it also uses heat pipes, but 6 shorter pipes rather than 3 long ones. I've tested both here in house the temps are extremely similar. The biggest difference is the Hyper6 only fits 80mm fans and the tower112 can use 92mm.

[OCForums_Osirs]

I am sure you wont regret your recently bought kanavit although dont get your hopes up in terms of: "2-2-2-5, 1T "
But I am sure yours would fly of the s939 :=)

The Gskill ram can do 2-2-2-5 1T, just not at insane HTT speeds. Hell I hit 289mhz 1:1 on my system with 2.5-4-8-4 1T (fully stable). So I would say 2-2-2-5 1T isnt asking for much.

And yes the Gskill ram fly's on the s939 systems. Sandra bench's are in the high 7GB range.

[Vincentvega18]

is the 4800 la actually in anywhere 1gb parts........preferably a site i can read to order :D

[FlyBoyGeo]

is the 4800 la actually in anywhere 1gb parts........preferably a site i can read to order :D

The 1GB LA's are not in the US yet, I've been keeping my eyes open for them. digi4me has the 256mb LA sticks...

[bias_hjorth]

The Gskill ram can do 2-2-2-5 1T, just not at insane HTT speeds. Hell I hit 289mhz 1:1 on my system with 2.5-4-8-4 1T (fully stable). So I would say 2-2-2-5 1T isnt asking for much.

And yes the Gskill ram fly's on the s939 systems. Sandra bench's are in the high 7GB range.

2-2-2-5 t1 at higher htt speed is actually to much to ask of the tccd modules past 235-245mhz.
I would be more surpprised if he couldnt reach 280 2.5-3-3-7 - Tccd are, as we all know, NOT low latency modules.

[goreblast]

Unfortunately the only type of G.Skill RAM i can find at any UK online shop is the LC variant. Anyone know different? And what would you expect from this type?

I have OCZ PC3200 Rev2 2x512 at present, thinking of either getting the G.Skill or OCZ VX.

[glock19owner]

Heres a few screenies of what the LC's will do...

These are done at default voltage and 1T...

http://home.insightbb.com/~myglock19/7G.JPG

http://home.insightbb.com/~myglock19/250.JPG

[gocchin]

I've got two set's (2x2x256) of LE and I'm having a hard time making it to 260 2.5-3-3-7 1T dual channel on my Neo2 however, with a single stick I can make it to 315 1:1 2.5-4-4-8 1T 2.6v..... man really got to play with this stuff. Not like my BH-5 where I just pump up the volts and it flies....

[Kanavit]

ok, finally got my Gskills!! woot. sorry for the bad quality pics.. :toast:

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http://photobucket.com/albums/v377/Jagatard/th_DSC00106.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/Jagatard/DSC00106.jpg)

[choseone214]

whats the week of the chips? 0437?

[Kanavit]

where can i find this info?

[DoGMaN]

Look on the first line of the chips should say like 0437

[Onepagebook]

Let's dance!:D :eleph:

[Kanavit]

Look on the first line of the chips should say like 0437
K , thx man. it says 437 on the top of the chips.

:banana: :banana:

here is my stock super pi 1mb with 2-2-2-5-1t!! 39sec stock @2.2

[tjj]

K , thx man. it says 437 on the top of the chips.

:banana: :banana:

here is my stock super pi 1mb with 2-2-2-5-1t!! 39sec stock @2.2

okkk, how about the OC then? ;)

[perry_78]

Yeh i want to see some!

I got the 1gb LA's from oc-wear.de :rolleys:

OPB. What is the PHYSICAL difference between LA and LE. The Gskills web only states the speeds they're rated at.

[DoGMaN]

Mine should be here tomorrow or Thursday, I can't wait.

[perry_78]

Neither can i, i would like to see your results, as i'm first testing mine tomorrow maybe.

[Paxi]

i think i will also have to get some G-Skills for my second rig ;)

[Kanavit]

okkk, how about the OC then? ;)
I'm having abysmal time ocing this gskill tccd ram at 2-2-2-5-1t timings 2:1 cpu/mem ratio. it's not much better than my hyperx. in fact the hyperx seems more stable. maybe i need to burn in the ram?

here is my best aq3 score with gskills overclocked.

i'm a little dissapointed. I can get my Gskill to 230mhz at 2:1 lock with 2.5-3-3-6, 1t only. it will boot into windows at 2-2-2-5, 1t but will not bench 3d.

well, here is my score: 73613 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=889371622)

[sparkie34]

Strange.They should at least be able to run 2-3-3-6 at those speeds.

[GazC]

What Vdimm are you using? Try setting it to auto.

[Kanavit]

vdimm voltage is set at 2.8v. i'm running 2:1 . ok , i think it's my newcastle POS controller.

[GazC]

vdimm voltage is set at 2.8v. i'm running 2:1 . ok , i think it's my newcastle POS controller.

That's too high, try setting it to AUTO.

I'm currently at 266 with 2.5-3-3-7 1T 1:1 with a gig kit of LC with the voltage at Auto.

hope this helps.

[Onepagebook]

lol..I run DDR640, 2.5-4-3-7 dual channel 1t @2.8~2.9v:)

[Kanavit]

I would like to personally thank my Gskills!!

235mhz, 2:1 , 2.5-3-3-7,1t @ 2.8v , cpu : 2584mhz

74,301 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=889399769)

[choseone214]

K> my bh-5 would have done cas1.5-2-2-1-1t@2.8-2.9v on that asus a8v up to 240mhz fsb. :(

if all you wanted was good ram for benhcmarks that is ;)

anyways GL with the gskil M*

[Entity_Razer]

wow :p sweet RAM


lol add to shopping cart:

1GB of G skill TCCD RAM

:)

[Kanavit]

K> my bh-5 would have done cas1.5-2-2-1-1t@2.8-2.9v on that asus a8v up to 240mhz fsb. :(

if all you wanted was good ram for benhcmarks that is ;)

anyways GL with the gskil M*
i'm having 2nd thoughts now, lol. story of my life tho. :(

[Entity_Razer]

don't regret it dude.

It's some cool looking and performing ram

But to be honest, in my pure ignorance about Gskill I thought that Ram would do 250MHZ at least on 5-2-2-2 :)

But it isn't DDR 500RAM .

is it? :s

[Torin]

It isn't rated DDR500 for 2-2-2..... you don't buy TCCD for 2-2-2. You buy it for 270+ @ 2.5-3-3

But it is rated DDR550 @ 2.5-3-3

[DoGMaN]

Well it just arrived :toast:

http://www.thecrucible.ca/reviews/gskill_le/images/4gig.png

Two pair are 437 the other two are 431. Results as soon as I have some time.

[GazC]

I would like to personally thank my Gskills!!

235mhz, 2:1 , 2.5-3-3-7,1t @ 2.8v , cpu : 2584mhz

74,301 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=889399769)


Woah, hold on. 2:1? 2.8V!!!?

So you are running the Ram at 118mhz at 2.8V?

Something very wrong there.

[Onepagebook]

Kanavit,

I don't BS..I run this 24/7...even right now, this is what I did it right away when I was writing this reply.:D

http://img112.exs.cx/img112/4596/xsvdimm9oj.jpg

super pi 4m:D

http://img150.exs.cx/img150/3585/xsvdimm4m3yy.jpg

[VetteTheHeretic]

g-skill would be so much more attractive if it came with nice shiny heatspreaders. I went with OCZ Platinum 4200 and that was one of my reasons

[Onepagebook]

g-skill would be so much more attractive if it came with nice shiny heatspreaders. I went with OCZ Platinum 4200 and that was one of my reasons


** heatspreader for ram is only the eye-candy, trust me, ram without heatspreader can get your some more, I am serious.:D

[JNav89GT]

g-skill would be so much more attractive if it came with nice shiny heatspreaders. I went with OCZ Platinum 4200 and that was one of my reasons
lol, I see why people like spreaders, but don't base your decision soley on this factor.

[J-Mag]

OPB: Looks like your CPU is running a tad hot: 239 C ??!?!?!!? heheh

[JNav89GT]

yeah but he doesn't worry until it hits 240C :)
j/k, the damm temp readings on these boards don't read sub zero right :(

[Onepagebook]

OPB: Looks like your CPU is running a tad hot: 239 C ??!?!?!!? heheh


239c=-17c I think, if I am correct. That's the trick.:D

[DoGMaN]

Heatspreaders originated on Rambus memory. Due to the nature of the way rambus works one IC could heat up more than the others. Thus the need for a "heat spreader". On DDR memory it really serves no purpose other than aesthetics. So if aesthetics are more important than performance to you maybe you are at the wrong website ;)

[Torin]

^^ Agreed.

[Dead_Texuspete]

Well, I'm glad. I just picked up the LE's. Up until now I only been using mainly HyperX... thought it's been about a year since I bought ram. Of the 4 packs of Hyper X I bought, I ripped the heatspreaders off every single one. There tape was mad thick. I dont know if other manufacturers do it better.

Anyways, mine seem like they can do there rated speeds no problem at 1T. I'm running 271 (2.5-3-3-10-1T) now though. I will drop the multi to 9 and test some more but I think I'm at my max on air for my NC so I havent been in a big hurry. Using multi 9 I will need 300 to get back to 2.7GHz and even if they can do it I'm not sure I want to lax them up at all... Really Kanavit... three pages now... show us some more! :p j/k but you can do it I'm sure. Not sure what you mean by 2:1.

http://www.ec329.com/GSKill271.JPG

edit: I dont know why image isnt showing, maybe because I'm new.

[JNav89GT]

Pete, be careful about trying to put too much voltage into the LE's, they seem to behave best at 2.6v or so. Not that you'll kill them with higher, just the oc's decrease. Some FYI.

[Kanavit]

according to my Bios, 2:1 keeps ram running at DDR400. so if i do 230mhz on fsb. the ram runs at 230mhz DDR, or DDR460. I would do more benches, but i'm gonna wait until i'm off work this weekend. so i can concentrate and get to the bottom of this.

oddly i think my ram is running better now for some reason, i'm going to be optimistic. I could run 2-2-2-5, 1t at DDR400 , while before i couldn't do it with HyperX pc4000 ram. the lowest it could do was 2-3-3-5, 1t. and the two inside numbers are the most important relative to performance. 3dmark2001se is next. i will post some scores soon. :)

[Kanavit]

ok, after trying out many different setups, i finally found the settings a liked with my new Gskills and 3dmark2001se benchmark. Stable at 2.5-3-3-7, 1t @ 230mhz. CPU at 2530mhz. Air cooled all.

Broke 25K!! goal #1 completed! AQ3 is next
25,323 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8382233)

woooo, i feel like Macci! :toast:

[bias_hjorth]

Congratz on the 25k mark kanavit and I dont want to rain on your parade but 230 2.5-3-3-7 is not good - You could easily use 2.2.2.5 around 210mhz and have around equal result.

[charlie]

Congratz on the 25k mark kanavit and I dont want to rain on your parade but 230 2.5-3-3-7 is not good - You could easily use 2.2.2.5 around 210mhz and have around equal result.

yeah, deffo drop the multi and get the HTT up to at least 260ish....
if you're on a 3500+ with 11x multi... drop to 9x and shoot for about 9 x 280ish....

C

[Kanavit]

ok, thx Guys. I have achieved my goal to day. my goal was to get 25K in 2k1, and 75k in aq3 with new $275 Gskill ram. although many people might consider that as an underachievement. I am quite happy because i didn't vmod, didn't use a ddr booster, and all scores done on air cooling.75,327 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=755252608)

i ran the usual 235mhz speed, with usual 2.5, 3,3,7, 1t timings , 1.785vcore, 2.8v dimm, GT@ 441/1150, and beat my personal best by almost 900 pts!!

[DoGMaN]

Nice Kanavit!! I ran a 29000 3DMark2001 today with my video card at stock speed. Damn G.Skill is nice. I was running 272x10 1:1 2.5-3-3-7 1t my poor little winnie can't go any higher on 1.6v. I was testing memtest earlier at 283 2.5-3-3-7 1t at only 2.6v. Only 3 more gigs to test :D

[Kanavit]

thx Dogman, but isn't 1:1 timings slow? well for me it was.

[neokenzo]

Sorry for going off topic but how did you manage the get the fsb that high with only 1.488V Onepage?

[Onepagebook]

Sorry for going off topic but how did you manage the get the fsb that high with only 1.488V Onepage?


cuz I am using single phase change only. If my cascade back from chilly 1, that'd be different story, might be 1.488v@ 3.3g :D

OPB

[DoGMaN]

thx Dogman, but isn't 1:1 timings slow? well for me it was.

1:1 for me means I am running the memory at 272MHz, same as the HTT speed. Some boards just have different naming conventions. I set the memory to DDR400 which equals 1:1 HTT:Mem.

[SIK_L_CELL]

I love my Gskill! :toast:

http://driverheavenuploads.co.uk/SIK_L_CELL/SI-4.JPG

[DoGMaN]

http://www.thecrucible.ca/reviews/gskill_le/images/272.png

Kinda stuck due to CPU voltage but so far so good. This is 1t at 2.6v. Not too shabby so far.

[SIK_L_CELL]

Nice Dogman! This is the best I could pull off in SuperPi.

http://driverheavenuploads.co.uk/SIK_L_CELL/Super-Pi%20-%2025.JPG

[DoGMaN]

Thanks SIK_L_CELL , I need to install my Vapo LS on this chip. Should be good for at least 3GHz. This damn Neo2 is not playing nice atm though. Time to start looking for another board, again.

[Onepagebook]

what are you guys doing? lol..be quite..:D

http://www.devilsword.com/ms7100/pi1m24s.jpg

[jumanji969]

Nice job with the scores. Keep pushing the ram!

[kickassclone]

I was going to get some ocz gold vx but screw that! I paid $325 for a gig of ocz pc3700eb and they work for crap in ny neo2 plat so at $267 a gig of le is dam cheap!

The clocks these are getting is insane.

[Carnajo]

Anyone know how they run on an Intel system?
I'd love to set my fsb to 300 so I can drop the multi to 14 and thus still do 4.2Ghz.

I've got a DFI 875P-T with a 550 CPU.

[texuspete00]

My slip that came with my LE's said they were actually tested to run the rated timings on Intel so while the world considers them great A64 ram.... it seems the "binning" is based on Intel.

[Korpse]

*hopes to god either his VX or LE performs well :D