New RAM List!!! (now with 1GB stick listing too)

[Punisher!]

Here you are a list of most known RAMs with their specific CHIPs (continual update). Let's notice in particular Samsung TCCD and Winbond UTT chips, best ram chips in the market:


256/512MB STICKS RAM LISTING:
A-Data
PC2700 (cl2,5) --chip--> could be Winbond AH-6 or BH-6
PC3200 --chip--> Winbond CH-5, Samsung TCCC
PC3200 --chip--> Special Edition Winbond BH-5
PC3700 (non Vitesta, no HS) --chip--> should Samsung TCC5
PC4000 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D43, D5, Samsung TCCC
PC4000 Vitesta DDR500 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D43, D5 or Samsung TCCD (few)
PC4500 Vitesta DDR566 --chip--> Samsung TCCD - Modified JEDEC PCB or Hynix B (few)
PC4800 Vitesta DDR600 --chip--> Samsung TCCD - Modified JEDEC PCB or Hynix B

Apacer
PC2700 --chip--> could be Winbond AH-6
PC4000 --chip--> Samsung TCCD

Buffalo
PC3200 --chip--> may or may not contain Micron 46V32M8 -5B C, 46V32M8 - 5B G look at the chips
PC3700 --chip--> may or may not contain Winbond BH-5, CH-5, Micron 46V32M8 -5B C look at the chips
FireStix PC4000 --chip--> Hynix B
FireStix PC3200 CL2 (2-2-2-4) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB


Centon
Advanced DDR --chip--> Samsung TCCD
New Advanced DDR533 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5
New Advanced DDR400 (2-2-2-5) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB

Corsair
XMS-PC2700C2 Rev1.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> maybe Winbond BH-6/Samsung TCB3
XMS-PC2700C2 Rev1.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-6
XMS-PC2700C2 Rev1.3 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Mosel Vitelic (6ns?)
XMS-PC2700C2 Rev2.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Micron (6ns rev B)/Samsung TCB3
XMS-PC2700LL Rev1.1 (2-2-2-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-6
XMS-PC2700LL Rev1.2 (2-2-2-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-6
XMS-PC3000C2 Rev1.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCB3/Micron (6ns rev B) and few Winbond BH-6
XMS-PC3000C2 Rev2.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> should Winbond BH-6
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.0 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-5
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.1/2.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-6
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.2/2.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-6
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.3 (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Winbond UTT ? http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.4 (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Mosel Vitelic 5ns ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.5 (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Winbond New BH-5 ~ Brainpower PCB
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.6 (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Winbond UTT ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.7 (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Winbond New BH-5\UTT ~ Brainpower PCB ? http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev3.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Infineon B-5
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD & TCC5
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.3 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD & TCC5 (Rev. F) ~ Brainpower PCB
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev5.1/6.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Mosel Vitelic 5ns
XMS-PC3200LL Rev1.1/2.1 (2-2-2-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
XMS-PC3200LL Rev1.2/2.2 (2-3-2-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-5
XMS-PC3200LL Rev3.1 (2-3-2-6-1T) --chip--> Infineon B-5
XMS-PC3200XL/XLPT Rev1.1 (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD
XMS-PC3200XL/XLPT Rev1.2 (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
XMS-PC3500C2 Rev1.1 (2-3-3-7-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
XMS-PC3700 Rev1.1(3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCC
XMS-PC4000 Rev1.1 (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D43
XMS-PC4000 Rev3.1 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung TCCC
XMS-PC4400 Rev1.1 (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D5
XMS-PC4400C25 (2.5-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB

Crucial
PC3200 --chip--> may or may not contain Micron 46V32M8 -5B C, 46V32M8 -5B G
Ballistix PC3200 (2-2-2-8) --chip--> Micron 46V32M8 -5B G (maybe overlabeled)
Ballistix PC4000 (2.5-4-4-8) --chip--> Micron 46V32M8 -5B G (maybe overlabeled)

GeIL
GeIL ONE TCCD (ES) PC3200 (1,5-2-2-5-1T) PC4800 (2,5-3-3-8-1T) @2.55V-2.95V --chip--> hand-picked TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
GeIL ONE TCCD (S) PC3200 (1,5-2-2-5-1T) PC4800 (2,5-4-4-7-1T) @2.55V-2.95V --chip--> hand-picked TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
GeIL ONE BH (W) PC3200 (1,5-2-2-5-1T) PC4000 (2-2-2-5-1T) @2.55V-3.80V --chip--> Winbond New BH5 ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
Value PC3200 Blue (2.5-3-3-6) --chip--> Infineon 5ns, Hynix D5, D43, Winbond New BH5\UTT (new ones)
Golden Dragon PC3200 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> WLCSP chip package w/ Samsung chips
Ultra Platinum PC3200 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-5, Mosel Vitelic 5ns
Ultra-X PC3200 (2-2-2-5) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (old ones), Winbond New BH-5\UTT (hand-picked, relabeled) ~ Brainpower PCB
Ultra-X PC4000\PC4400 (2-2-2-5\2,5-3-3-5\2,5-4-4-7 -1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (hand-picked, relabeled) ~ Brainpower PCB
Golden Dragon PC3500 (2.5-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> WLCSP chip package w/ Samsung chips
Ultra Platinum PC3500 (2.5-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-5, Mosel Vitelic 5ns, Winbond New BH5\UTT (new ones)
Golden Dragon PC3700 (2.5-4-4-7-1T) --chip--> WLCSP chip package w/ Samsung chips
Golden Dragon PC4000 (2.5-4-4-7-1T) --chip--> WLCSP chip package w/ Samsung chips
Ultra Series PC3200 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCC5
Ultra Platinum PC4000 (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D43
Ultra Platinum PC4200 (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D43
Ultra Platinum PC4400 (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D5

G.Skill
G.SKILL PC3200(DDR400 1T) (2-3-3-6 1T @2,6V-2,75V), (F1-3200PHU2-512MBZX/1GBZX) --chip--> Micron 46V32M8 -5B G (?), Mosel Vitelic 5ns (?) (overlabeled) ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC3200(DDR400 1T) (2-2-2-5 1T), (F1-3200BWU2-512MBGH/1GBGH) --chip--> Winbond UTT ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) (2.5-4-4-8), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) 1GB Kit (F1-3200DSU2-512LC/1GBLC) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) (2.5-3-3-7), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) 512M Kit (F1-3200DSU2-512LE/1GBLE) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) (2.5-4-4-8), PC3200 (2-3-3-6) (F1-3200DSU2-512LD/1GBLD) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) (2.5-4-4-8) (F1-3200DSU2-512FC/1GBFC) --chip--> Samsung TCCD, Samsung TCC5 ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600 2T) (2.5-4-4-8 2T) (F1-3200DSU2-512FR/1GBFR) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600 1T) (2.5-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5), (F1-3200DSU2-512FF/1GBFF) --chip--> hand-picked Samsung TCCD (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600) (2.5-4-4-8 2T | 3-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) (F1-3200DSU2-512LA/1GBLA) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB

Kingmax (incomplete)
Hardcore PC4000 DDR500 TSOP (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D5 ~ Brainpower PCB
Hardcore PC4000 DDR500 BGA (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix B ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif

Kingston
HyperX PC2700 (2-2-2-5-1T) (KHX 2700) --chip--> first Samsung TCB3, then Winbond BH-6, CH-6, CH-5, relabeled unknown Chips.
HyperX PC3000 (2-2-2-6-1T) (KHX 3000) --chip--> first Samsung TCB3, then mainly Winbond BH-5, some BH-6, CH-5, CH-6 (maybe relabeled)
HyperX PC 3200 (old revision, not AK2, K2 or A) (KHX 3200) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
HyperX PC 3200K2 (2-2-2-6-1T) (KHX 3200K2) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
HyperX PC 3200AK2 (2-3-2-6-1T) (KHX 3200AK2) --chip--> Winbond CH-5
HyperX PC 3200ULK2 (2-2-2-5-1T) (KHX 3200ULK2) --chip--> Samsung TCCD
HyperX PC 3500 (rated 2-3-3-7 @ 433Mhz, 2-2-2-6 @ 400Mhz, old revision) (KHX 3500) --chip--> Winbond BH-5 (maybe relabeled)
HyperX PC 3500K2 (2-3-3-7) (KHX 3500K2) --chip--> Winbond CH-5
HyperX PC 3500A (2-3-3-7) (KHX 3500A) --chip--> Winbond CH-5
HyperX PC 4000K2 (3-4-4-8) (KHX 4000K2) --chip--> Samsung TCCC, Hynix D43, D5
HyperX PC 4300K2 (3-4-4-8) (KHX 4300K2) --chip--> Hynix D5
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DW-45 --chip--> Before Week 18 Year 03 Winbond BH-5, after CH-5 (18 03 can be both)
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DW-5 --chip--> Winbond BH-5
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DW-6 Winbond BH-6
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DM-6 --chip--> should Winbond BH-6
Kingston Ram w/remarked Chips as D328DM-5 --chip--> should Winbond BH-5
Value Ram 333Mhz (2,5-3-3-*) (KVR333X64C25) --chip--> may or may not contain Winbond BH-6, AH-6, Hynix D43, D5 look at the chips (maybe relabeled)
Value Ram 400Mhz (2,5-3-3-*) (KVR400X64C25) --chip--> may or may not contain Winbond BH-5, CH-5, Micron 46V32M8 -5B C, Hynix D43, D5, Samsung TCCC, TCC4 look at the chips (maybe relabeled)

Mushkin
PC2700 (Non Level X, rated 2-3-3, Promo-Build) --chip--> Winbond CH-6
PC3200 Cl2,5 (Non Level X, non Blue, non Green Serie) --chip--> Winbond BH-5, Samsung TCB3
PC3200 (Non Level X, rated 2-2-2, Promo-Build) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
PC3200 Level I (2-3-2) --chip--> Winbond CH-5
PC3200 Level II (2-2-2) --chip--> Winbond BH-5 or BH-6
PC3200 Special 2-2-2 --chip--> Winbond BH-6
PC3200 Level II V2 (2-2-2) --chip--> Samsung TCCD
PC3500 Level I (2-3-3) --chip--> Winbond CH-5
PC3500 Level II (2-2-2) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
PC3200 BLUE CL2 (2-3-3-X) --chip--> Winbond UTT ~ Brainpower PCB
PC3700 (2,5-4-3) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (rev. F)
PC3200/3500/4000 REDLINE XP3200/3500/4000 DDR400/433/500 (2-2-2-5-1T @+3V) --chip--> Winbond UTT ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
PC3200 Dual Pack (2-2-2) --chip--> Samsung TCCD\TCC5 (rev. F) ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
PC4400 Dual Pack (2,5-4-4) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (rev. F) ~ Brainpower PCB

OCZ
EL DDR PC3200 Gold --chip--> Winbond New BH5 ~ Brainpower PCB
EL DDR PC3200 Platinum Limited Edition (2-2-2-7) --chip--> Winbond BH-6
EL DDR PC3200 Platinum Edition (2-3-2-5) --chip--> Samsung TCB3, ProMOS 5ns (relabeled), Mosel Vitelic 5ns (relabeled), Winbond CH-5
EB DDR PC3200 Platinum Edition (2,5-3-2-8) --chip--> Micron 46V32M8 -5B C
EL DDR PC3200 Platinum Edition rev2 (2-2-2-5) --chip--> Samsung 4ns TCCD, Samsung TCC5 ~ Brainpower PCB
EL DDR PC3200 DC Value VX (OCZ4001024WV3DC-K) (3-4-4-8 @2,6V) --chip--> Windond UTT, New BH5 (relabeled as OCZ VX) ~ Brainpower PCB 808
EL DDR PC3200 DC Gold VX (2-3-3-8 @2.6V | 2-2-2-8 @3.2V) --chip--> Windond UTT (relabeled as OCZ Voltage eXtreme) ~ Brainpower PCB 808
EL DDR PC3500 DC Gold GX (2-2-2-5 @2,8V) --chip--> Windond New BH5 (relabeled as OCZ Voltage eXtreme) ~ Brainpower PCB 808 http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
EL DDR PC4000 DC Gold VX (2-2-2-8 @3.3V) --chip--> Windond UTT (relabeled as OCZ Voltage eXtreme) ~ Brainpower PCB 808
EL DDR PC3500 Platinum Limited Edition (2-2-3-6) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
EL DDR PC3500 Platinum Edition (2-3-2-5) --chip--> Winbond CH-5, few BH-5
EB DDR PC3500 Platinum Edition (2,5-3-2-8) --chip--> Micron 46V32M8 -5B C
EL DDR PC3700 Gold Edition rev1 (2-3-3-7) --chip--> Samsung TCB3 (overlabeled)
EL DDR PC3700 Gold Edition rev2 (2,5-3-3-7) --chip--> ProMOS 5ns (relabeled) , Mosel Vitelic 5ns (relabeled)
EL DDR PC3700 Gold Edition rev3 (2,5-3-3-8) --chip--> Hynix DT-D5 ~ Brainpower PCB 808
EL DDR PC3700 Platinum Edition (2-3-3-8) --chip--> Samsung TCC5 (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB
EB DDR PC3700 Platinum Edition (3-2-2-8/3-3-2-8) --chip--> Micron 46V32M8 -5B C
DDR PC4000 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5, D43 (relabeled)
DDR PC4200 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5, D43
EL PC4200 Platinum Edition (2,5-3-3-8 1T @2,75V) --chip--> Samsung TCC5 (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
DDR PC4400 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5
EL DDR PC4400 Gold Edition (2,5-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix B, Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
EL PC4800 Platinum Edition (2,5-4-4-10 1T/2T @2,85V) --chip--> Samsung TCCD, Samsung TCC5 (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB
EL PC5000 Platinum Edition DFI Special DDR625 (3-4-4-10 1T/2T @2,85V) --chip--> Samsung TCCD, Samsung TCC5 (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB
EL PC4800 Platinum Elite Edition (2,5-4-4-10 1T/2T @2,85V) --chip--> hand-picked Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif


OC-Wear
OC-WearDDR PC3200 (2-3-3-6) - DDR560 CL 3-4-4-8 @ 2,8V --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
OC-Wear PC3200 DDR400 2-2-2-5 (2-2-2-5-1T) --> Winbond New BH-5

Patriot (incomplete)
Patriot PDC5123200+XBLK\PDC1G3200+XBLK (2-2-2-5) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB

PQI (incomplete)
PQI Turbo Memory DC PC3200 (2-2-2-5) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
PQI Turbo Memory DC PC4000 (2,5-3-3-7) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
PQI Turbo Memory DC PC4400 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5 ~ Brainpower PCB 815 http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif

Samsung
PC3200 --chip--> Samsung TCC4, TCCC
PC3700 --chip--> Samsung TCC5
PC4000 (CL3) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (just few samples)

Shikatronics
ShikaXram PC4400 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix B

SimpleTech
Nitro PC4000 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5

Team Group
ASTAK DDR600 PC4800 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB 808

TwinMos
Twinmos DDR333 (2,5-3-3-6) --chip--> Samsung TCB3, TCC4 Winbond AH-6, Winbond BH-6, Twinmos, Hynix, Mtec
Twinmos/Winbond DDR400 (2,5-3-3-6) --chip--> Could be Winbond BH-5, CH-5, look at the chips
Twinmos Twisters DDR500 (TSOP) (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D43, Samsung TCCC
Twinmos Twisters DDR533 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5
TwisterPro PC3200/DDR400 (2-2-2-5) --chip--> Samsung TCCD
TwisterPro PC3700/DDR466 (2,5-3-3-7) --chip--> Samsung TCCD
Speed Premium PC3500 (DDR433) (2,5-3-3-8) --chip--> Winbond New BH-5

Twinmos with Winbond UTT (relabeled as Twinmos\M.Tec) <--chip--
(*) Twinmos SpeedPremium (after week 46/2004 with UTT & BP PCB)
(*) Two Dots marking
(*) AA4T (not AADT or 1A4T)
(*) Metal Dots (two in each side!)
(*) 44D (or 50D) TMD marking (some 60D PC2700 too)

Twinmos with New Winbond BH-5 (relabeled as Twinmos\M.Tec) <--chip--
(*) Twinmos SpeedPremium (after week 46/2004 with BH-5 & BP PCB)
(*) Two Dots marking
(*) 1A4T (not AADT or AA4T)
(*) Metal Dots (two in each side!)
(*) 44D (or 50D) TMD marking (some 60D PC2700 too)

Ultra
Extreme Memory PC3200 DDR 400MHZ (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-5, selected CH-5

? = Need more input
Modified JEDEC (Reference) PCB/Brainpower PCB = Ehnanced PCBs (+5/10 Mhz)

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SAMSNUG TCCD RAM CLASSIFICATION based on review, comments, posts, etc. (it is ABSOLUTELY indicative and of course it is not scientific because a lot depends on chip luck; notice: some could be also TCC5 Rev. F that ~ equals TCCD performance):
+~300 Mhz:
GeIL ONE TCCD (ES) PC3200 (1,5-2-2-5-1T) PC4800 (2,5-3-3-8-1T) @2.55V-2.95V --chip--> hand-picked TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
GeIL ONE TCCD (S) PC3200 (1,5-2-2-5-1T) PC4800 (2,5-4-4-7-1T) @2.55V-2.95V ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600 1T) (2.5-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5), (F1-3200DSU2-512FF/1GBFF) ~ Brainpower PCB
^ http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/winner.gif "Puni's Choices" (best TCCD in in the market, agile and powerful, "300 Mhz" are past, now 1T certified)

EL PC4800 Platinum Elite Edition (2,5-4-4-10 1T/2T @2,85V) ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600) (2.5-4-4-8 2T | 3-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) (F1-3200DSU2-512LA/1GBLA) ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) (2.5-3-3-7), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) 512M Kit (F1-3200DSU2-512LE/1GBLE) ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600 2T) (2.5-4-4-8 2T) (F1-3200DSU2-512FR/1GBFR) ~ Brainpower PCB
OCZ EL PC5000 Platinum Edition DFI Special DDR625 (3-4-4-10 1T/2T @2,85V) ~ Brainpower PCB
OCZ EL PC4800 Platinum Edition (2,5-4-4-10 1T/2T @2,85V) ~ Brainpower PCB
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) (2.5-4-4-8) (F1-3200DSU2-512FC/1GBFC) ~ Brainpower PCB
OCZ EL DDR PC3700 Platinum Edition (2-3-3-8) ~ Brainpower PCB
OCZ EL DDR PC3200 Platinum Edition rev2 (2-2-2-5) ~ Brainpower PCB
GeIL Ultra-X PC3200\PC4000\PC4400 (2-2-2-5\2,5-3-3-5\2,5-4-4-7 -1T) ~ Brainpower PCB
Team Group ASTAK DDR600 PC4800 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB 808
Mushkin PC4400 (2,5-4-4) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (rev. F) ~ Brainpower PCB
New Centon Advanced DDR ~ Brainpower PCB
A-Data PC4800/PC4500 Vitesta DDR600/DDR566 - Modified JEDEC PCB
~-300 Mhz:
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) (2.5-4-4-8), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) 1GB Kit (F1-3200DSU2-512LC/1GBLC) ~ Brainpower PCB
Corsair XMS-PC4400C25 (2.5-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
Corsair XMS-PC3200XL Rev1.2/XLPT (2-2-2-5-1T) ~ Brainpower PCB
Corsair XMS-PC3200XL Rev1.1 (2-2-2-5-1T)
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) (2.5-4-4-8), PC3200 (2-3-3-6) (F1-3200DSU2-512LD/1GBLD) ~ Brainpower PCB
Mushkin PC3700 (2,5-4-3) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (rev. F)
PQI Turbo Memory DC PC4000 (2,5-3-3-7) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
Samsung PC4000
PQI Turbo Memory DC PC3200 (2-2-2-5) ~ Brainpower PCB
Patriot PDC5123200+XBLK\PDC1G3200+XBLK (2-2-2-5) ~ Brainpower PCB
Corsair XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1 (2-3-3-6-1T)
OC-WearDDR PC3200 - DDR560 CL 3-4-4-8 @ 2,8V
-300 Mhz:
Mushkin PC3200 Level II V2 (2-2-2)
TwisterPro PC3200/DDR400 (2-2-2-5)
HyperX PC 3200ULK2 (2-2-2-5-1T) (KHX 3200ULK2)
Apacer PC4000
Centon Advanced DDR

"+~300 Mhz" = for sure over 300 Mhz, except rarity.
"~-300 Mhz" = around 300 Mhz, largely under 300 Mhz.
"-300 Mhz" = under 300 Mhz of about 5*(2,)3,4,5(,6) Mhz except rarity.

With V-RAM ~2,85V and relaxed timings.

____________________ (c) Punisher!

Winbond UTT vs TCCD (indicative comparison, not scientific):
Low Timings 2-2-2-X:
Winbond UTT (260-265 Mhz 1T @ ~3,4V) > TCCD (235-240 Mhz 1T @ ~2,85V)
Medium Timings 2,5-3-3-X:
TCCD (~300 Mhz 1T @ 2,85V) > Winbond UTT (263-268 Mhz 1T @ 3,4V)
High Timings 3-4-4-X:
TCCD (+300 Mhz 1T/2T @ ~2,85V) > Winbond UTT (265-270 Mhz ~1T/2T @ 3,4V)
Consumption (max = at which voltage they give their max):
TCCD: ~2,85V (max)
Winbond UTT: +3,4V (max unknown)

____________________ (c) Punisher!






1GB STICKS RAM LISTING:
[1GB STICKS RAM LIST by re-voodoo (THANKS!)]
[FOR ERRORS BELONGING TO THIS LIST PLEASE REFER TO cavodamage@tin.it FOR YOUR REPORT]

A-Data

A-Data PC3200 - Samsung UCCC


Buffalo

PC3200 DD4333-1G/MC rev C - Micron 5B -D
PC3200 DD4333-1G/SB rev B - Samsung UCCC

Corsair


XMS-3202-TWINX2048 - Samsung UCCC + PCB Brainpower
XMS-
3202C2PRO-TWINX2048 Rev1.1 - Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower PCB
XMS-3202C2-
TWINX2048 Rev1.2 - Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower PCB
XMS-3200C2-TWINX2048
Rev1.4 - Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower PCB
XMS-PC3200 Rev 1.3 - Infineon
BE-5
XMS-PC3200 Rev 4.1 - Infineon BE-5
XMS-PC3200 Rev 5.1 - Nanya
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev 1.x - Infineon BE-5
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev 2.1 - Infineon
BE-5 or Nanya
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev 2.2 - Nanya
XMS-PC3500LLPRO-TWINX2048
- Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower PCB
XMS-PC4000 Rev 1.1 - Samsung UCCC
XMS-PC4400 - Samsung UCCC
XMS-PC4000-TWINX2048-4000PT - Samsung UCCC +
Brainpower PCB
Value RAM VS2GBKIT400C3 - Micron 5B-D or Samsung UCCC
Value RAM VS1GB400C3 - Samsung UCCC or Infineon BE-5


Crucial

PC3200 Value CT12864Z40B-1GB - Micron -5B D
Ballistix PC4000 BL12864Z503-1GB - Micron 5B-D
Ballistix Tracer PC4000
BL2KIT12864L503-1GB - Micron 5B-D

GEIL

Value
Series PC3200 - Elixir

G.Skill

F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ - Samsung UCCC + Brainpower PCB
F1-4000USU2-2GBHV - Infineon CE-6 + Brainpower PCB
F1-3200USU2-2GBHS - Samsung UCCC + Brainpower PCB
F1-3200BIU2-2GBHX - Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower PCB
F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX - Infineon CE-6 + Brainpower PCB
F1-3200PHU2-2GBNS - Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower PCB
F1-3200PHU1-1GBNT - Samsung UCCC + Brainpower PCB


Hynix

HYMD512646A8J - Hynix xx-D43
HYMD512646CP8J
-Hynix CTP-D43
HYMD512646B8R-D43 PQ - Hynix BT-D43


Infineon

HYS64D128320HU-5-B - Infineon BE-5
HYS64D128320HU-5-C - Infineon CE-5
HYS64D128320HU-6-B - Infineon BE-6
HYS64D128320HU-6-C - Infineon CE-6

Kingston

KHX3200AK2/2G - Infineon BE-5
KHX3200K2/2G - Infineon xx-x
KVR400X64C3A/1G - Infineon BE-5 or Samsung TCCC
KVR400X64C3AK2/2G -
Samsung UCCC

Mushkin

PC3200 Blue Line -
Infineon BE-5
PC3200 HighPerformance (HP) - Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower
PCB
PC4000 ExtremePerformance (XP) Redline - Infineon CE-6 +
Brainpower PCB
PC4000 ExtremePerformance (XP) - Samsung UCCC +
Brainpower PCB

OCZ

PC3200 Gold EL GX XTC -
Hynix D-5 or Infineon BE5\6 + Brainpower PCB
PC4000 Gold EL GX XTC -
Samsung UCCC + Brainpower PCB
PC4000 Platinum EB - Infineon CE-6 +
Brainpower PCB
PC3200 Platinum EL - Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower PCB
PC4000 Gold EL - Samsung UCCC + Brainpower PCB
PC4000 Platinum EL -
Samsung UCCC + Brainpower PCB
PC3200 Performance - Infineon BE-5 +
Brainpower PCB
PC3200 Value - Infineon CE-5 or BE-5 + Brainpower PCB

Patriot

PC3200 - Infineon CE-6
PC3200LL
Extreme Performance (PDC2G3200LLK) - Infineon BE-5 or BE-6 + Brainpower
PCB

PQI

PC3200 Power Memory - Samsung UCCC
PC3200 Turbo Memory DBL - Infineon BE-5

Samsung


PC3200 M368L2923CUN-CCC - Samsung UCCC Rev.C + Original PCB
PC3200 M368L2923DUN-CCC - Samsung UCCC Rev.D + Original PCB
PC3200
M368L2923CTN-CCC - Samsung TCCC + Original PCB

Speedline


PC3200 - Infineon BE-5 or Samsung TCCC/UCCC
PC3500 -
Infineon BE-5 or CE-5
PC3700 - Samsung TCCC/UCCC
PC4000 - Samsung
UCCC
PC4200 - Samsung UCCC
PC4200 - Infineon CE-5
PC4400 - Samsung
UCCC

TakeMS

BD1024TEC600 - TakeMS


TeamGroup

PC4000 Xtreem DC Memory Kit (3-3-2-8) -
Infineon CE-6 + Brainpower PCB
PC4000 Xtreem DC Memory Kit (3-4-3-8) -
Samsung UCCC + Brainpower PCB
PC4000 Xtreem DC Memory Kit (3-3-3-8) -
Micron 5B-D + Brainpower PCB
PC3200 Xtreem DC Memory Kit (2-3-2-5) -
Infineon BE-5 + Brainpower PCB

TwinMos

PC3200
- Hynix D-5

Transcend

PC3200 - Samsung UCCC +
Original PCB

____________________ (c) re-voodoo









Thanks to Speed & re-voodoo for help.

I hope it will be useful for many people.

Goodbye! :D

[Bennah]

Not all Adata PC3200 are going to be CH-5, TCCD, BH-5...

[jumanji969]

Winbond UTT vs TCCD (indicative comparison, not scientific):
Low Timings 2-2-2-X:
Winbond UTT (270-275 Mhz 1T @ ~3,4V) > TCCD (235-240 Mhz 1T @ ~2,85V)
Medium Timings 2,5-3-3-X:
TCCD (~300 Mhz 1T @ 2,85V) > Winbond UTT (275-280 Mhz 1T @ 3,4V)
High Timings 3-4-4-X:
TCCD (+300 Mhz 1T/2T @ ~2,85V) > Winbond UTT (280-285 Mhz ~1T/2T @ 3,4V)
Consumption (max = at which voltage they give their max):
TCCD: ~2,85V (max)
Winbond UTT: +3,4V (max unknown)

____________________ (c) Punisher!

Thanks to Speed for help.

I hope it will be useful for many people.

Goodbye! :D

I think your exaggerating a bit on the max clocks for winbound UTT. I'd say normal for 3.4v is around 250-260.

Otherwise very nice and informative post.

[quicksilverXP]

Dude... you are officially the man...

[computersmsa]

Thanks !!!

Centon -> Jedec
But Brain Power in ~ 20 Days :)

[Punisher!]

I think your exaggerating a bit on the max clocks for winbound UTT. I'd say normal for 3.4v is around 250-260.
Make your research about deals utilizing the tools like IGA specials (https://www.catalogueau.com/iga/).

Otherwise very nice and informative post.

I have seen a 280 Mhz CAS 2 @ 3.5v, so I think it is quite realistic, anyway if I receive more inputs I will lower the clock.

Thanks! :D

[Speed_399]

Thanks to Speed for help.


You did the big part :)

:D
:banana4:

[over@locker886]

Winbond UTT vs TCCD (indicative comparison, not scientific):
Low Timings 2-2-2-X:
Winbond UTT (270-275 Mhz 1T @ ~3,4V) > TCCD (235-240 Mhz 1T @ ~2,85V)
Medium Timings 2,5-3-3-X:
TCCD (~300 Mhz 1T @ 2,85V) > Winbond UTT (275-280 Mhz 1T @ 3,4V)
High Timings 3-4-4-X:
TCCD (+300 Mhz 1T/2T @ ~2,85V) > Winbond UTT (280-285 Mhz ~1T/2T @ 3,4V)
Consumption (max = at which voltage they give their max):
TCCD: ~2,85V (max)
Winbond UTT: +3,4V (max unknown)

So Tccd best choise?

[jumanji969]

Winbond UTT vs TCCD (indicative comparison, not scientific):
Low Timings 2-2-2-X:
Winbond UTT (270-275 Mhz 1T @ ~3,4V) > TCCD (235-240 Mhz 1T @ ~2,85V)
Medium Timings 2,5-3-3-X:
TCCD (~300 Mhz 1T @ 2,85V) > Winbond UTT (275-280 Mhz 1T @ 3,4V)
High Timings 3-4-4-X:
TCCD (+300 Mhz 1T/2T @ ~2,85V) > Winbond UTT (280-285 Mhz ~1T/2T @ 3,4V)
Consumption (max = at which voltage they give their max):
TCCD: ~2,85V (max)
Winbond UTT: +3,4V (max unknown)

So Tccd best choise?

Depends on if you have a DDR booster or vmods on your board.

[ed.howell]

GREAT JOB!! :toast:

[Punisher!]

Standing? :D

[metro.cl]

Winbond UTT vs TCCD (indicative comparison, not scientific):
Low Timings 2-2-2-X:
Winbond UTT (270-275 Mhz 1T @ ~3,4V) > TCCD (235-240 Mhz 1T @ ~2,85V)
Medium Timings 2,5-3-3-X:
TCCD (~300 Mhz 1T @ 2,85V) > Winbond UTT (275-280 Mhz 1T @ 3,4V)
High Timings 3-4-4-X:
TCCD (+300 Mhz 1T/2T @ ~2,85V) > Winbond UTT (280-285 Mhz ~1T/2T @ 3,4V)
Consumption (max = at which voltage they give their max):
TCCD: ~2,85V (max)
Winbond UTT: +3,4V (max unknown)

So Tccd best choise?

for 24/7 with nice oc samsung tccd, for benchs and xtreme sppeds windboond utt

really nice work m8 thanks

[iddqd]

Where's the Winbond list? The page it used to be on is 404 forever now.

[FlyBoyGeo]

Nice listing! :)

[esdee]

Twinmos/Winbond DDR400 (2,5-3-3-6) --chip--> Could be Winbond BH-5, CH-5, look at the chips

this could be UTT too ... newer week steppings

[iddqd]

What the hell is UTT? Also, below what week Kingston are BH-5?

[Punisher!]

After having received some more inputs I have lowered a bit Winbond UTT potential in the comparison because it was a bit too much optimistic (a lot depends on Winbond UnTestTed chip luck).

[Skip]

Thanks !!!

Centon -> Jedec
But Brain Power in ~ 20 Days :)

i have some centon i got from an RMA with them that is kreton IC with brainpower pcb. sadly they are still faulty, hundreds of errors in memtest at stock. I'll be RMA;ing them again, should i wait a bit so i can for sure get brainpower?

[iddqd]

I still don't get it. What's Winbond untested?

[Skip]

what is this ultra? the ones i have seen are 2-3-2 on the web, not 2-2-2. so are those some type of hynix chips and not winbond?

[stestan]

Update for you

XMS-PC3200XLPT (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB (?)

I have some of that and it is BP and mine is XLPT V1.2 had 239x11 5-2-2-2 @ 2.9v did try 3.2v but cpu is holding me back

[Punisher!]

Update for you

XMS-PC3200XLPT (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB (?)

I have some of that and it is BP and mine is XLPT V1.2 had 239x11 5-2-2-2 @ 2.9v did try 3.2v but cpu is holding me back

Thanks! Updated! :D

[Eljefe62]

For explanation of Winbond UTT, see the "Xtreme Twinmos Memory" thread...

[Onepagebook]

how long you did this list?:D
You've done a great job! :toast:

[Punisher!]

how long you did this list?:D
You've done a great job! :toast:
Thanks man! :D

[MarilynMX]

awesome work, two thumbs up

[iddqd]

For explanation of Winbond UTT, see the "Xtreme Twinmos Memory" thread...
So is that BH-4(CH-4?) Infineon makes on Winbond's fab now?

[Reefa_Madness]

Here are two additions to your list of probable UTT...both these 512MB sticks have hit 255 on a 3.2 P4 with 3.6v (by Diablo23rd at OC Forums). The first is OCZ PC2700 Value Series, the other is KVR PC3200. The OCZ has the M.tec labeled chips, the KVR is Kingston relabeled.

[Gaspar]

What about OCZ 3700 el Platinum arent the TCCD chips as well??

[del_fuego]

What about OCZ 3700 el Platinum arent the TCCD chips as well??

Yes, cherry picked tccd on Brainpower pcb i think. Apparently they like a bit of voltage too. Discussed here - http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=598082#post598082

Cheers, dEl. :toast:

[Gaspar]

I have some enroute to play with hopefully I can hit 300 HTT. :) :banana:

[tom_ed]

quality list man.

one alteration - Mushkin level 1 pc3200 2-3-2 is sometimes mosel vitelic chips

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D Well done - very important for all - keep it updated and make it a sticky !!!

So I'm happy getting my 2 x 256 G.SKILL 4800LA next week...........

:toast:

[blinky]

i have a correction:
corsair XMS3200C2 v1.1 is rated at 2-2-2-6-1T, not 2-3-3-6-1T ;)

[quicksilverXP]

New Centon's are on BrainPower PCB. They can hit 300HTT 1:1 easily with the right CPU and motherboard.... here's a snippet

http://centon.infopop.cc/evefiles/photo_albums/7/2/1/7210044772/9870008203_08B211343510FC58FA2FB4C571C353E8.JPG

[Punisher!]

List Updated.

[Punisher!]

i have a correction:
corsair XMS3200C2 v1.1 is rated at 2-2-2-6-1T, not 2-3-3-6-1T

Nope. Both v1.1 and v2.1 are rated at 2-3-3-6-1T ;).

Anyway it isn't written anything in the label but I have seen it from a link taken in the official site.

[Skip]

what do you guys think, would i be beter off buying mushkin pc3500 2-3-3-5 which is ch-5, or should i get some twinmos UTT?

edit: i'll just gamble on UTT.

[dutchman.pt]

Very nice work with the list. :toast:

[Shorty]

i think ocz pc3700EL platinum and pc4200EL platinum are also TCCD wif brainpower pcb. can anyone confirm this?

how about these? G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) 2.5-3-3-7, PC3200 2-2-2-5 1GB Kit (F1-3200DSU2-1GBLE)

[Punisher!]

what do you guys think, would i be beter off buying mushkin pc3500 2-3-3-5 which is ch-5, or should i get some twinmos UTT?

edit: i'll just gamble on UTT.

UTT > CH-5.

[cupra]

wow
amazing list and very useful

[dimasdw]

Winbond UTT vs TCCD (indicative comparison, not scientific):
Low Timings 2-2-2-X:
Winbond UTT (265-270 Mhz 1T @ ~3,4V) > TCCD (235-240 Mhz 1T @ ~2,85V)
Medium Timings 2,5-3-3-X:
TCCD (~300 Mhz 1T @ 2,85V) > Winbond UTT (270-275 Mhz 1T @ 3,4V)
High Timings 3-4-4-X:
TCCD (+300 Mhz 1T/2T @ ~2,85V) > Winbond UTT (275-280 Mhz ~1T/2T @ 3,4V)
Consumption (max = at which voltage they give their max):
TCCD: ~2,85V (max)
Winbond UTT: +3,4V (max unknown)


so if want xtreme high FSB choise TCCD ,choise UTT for xtreme Low Latency
:banana:

[BeSaiD]

Adata 566 and adata 600 are TCCD and Hinyx, so they are not TCCD sure.

[Punisher!]

Adata 566 and adata 600 are TCCD and Hinyx, so they are not TCCD sure.

NOPE. A-Data 566 and 600 ARE TCCD SURE @ 100%.

[Punisher!]

Not bad for my first post, mh? :p:

Up for "standing"! :D

[D_o_S]

how long you did this list?:D
You've done a great job! :toast:

Ditto that...

[Punisher!]

Up!

[@njo]

i´m :slobber:

all i can say is.. keep up the good work.

Very nice post... i think it should by voted for sticky :)

[enzoR]

yea! sticky this one!

[MrQ3W]

I have heard some A-DATA PC4800 is Hynix B, says on this site for instance:
http://mar.h0sted.org/ramliste250804.htm
is it true that some are??

Also do the PC4800 Twinmos Pro have Modified JEDEC PCBs?

[Punisher!]

I have heard some A-DATA PC4800 is Hynix B, says on this site for instance:
http://mar.h0sted.org/ramliste250804.htm
is it true that some are??

Also do the PC4800 Twinmos Pro have Modified JEDEC PCBs?

Nope. That list has been made before A-DATA PC4800 commercialization. They were supposed to be Hynix B, actually they are TCCD.

PC4800 Twinmos Pro have Brainpower PCB.

What about unsticking "Ram with Samsung TCCD - Listing" and sticking this one that is more complete and also contains that?

[KenX]

Great list!

2 questions: Is this PDP 256MB PC4000 ELK Series DDR500 memory also TCCD?
http://www.pdpsys.com/products/PDC512420040003700ELK.pdf

Which one would you prefer? XMS3200C2 v1.1 BH-6 or the PDP one I mention above?

Sorry for the asking. I am a beginner. Still learning.

[BeSaiD]

Adata 566 and 600 are not 100% sure TCCD.

Some adata 566 and 600 are Hinyx B too.

thank you.

[Punisher!]

Adata 566 and 600 are not 100% sure TCCD.

Some adata 566 and 600 are Hinyx B too.

thank you.

A-DATA 566 and 600 are ALL "TCCD".

Which part of --> "100%" <-- don't you understand?

[BeSaiD]

Which part of --> Some adata 566 and 600 are Hinyx B too.
<-- don't you understand?

I've personally asked to my country's reseller.

[Skip]

eh, this g-skill of mine aint doing too good. can't get past the specs in my sig at Cas 2.5 i got the LE also. cas3 gives me like 255. When i run just a single stick though i can get up to 280ish with cas2.5.

edit: i'm guessing its the mem controller though... got the ram for a winnie anyways, looking for UTT for this setup.

[orig3n]

Another update :)

Just got new TCCD RAM :)

XMS-PC4400C25 (2.5-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD

Brainpower PCB - BP MLL E186014

Its identical to the set reviewed at Anandtech except it has black headspreaders...

Doing 270 2.5-3-3-10 with my a8v but im sure it undervolts aswell at 2.7v

Tested upto 295 so far stable but this board has issues with 1T above 260 so ill wait for the DFI before extensive testing :)

[Punisher!]

Which part of --> Some adata 566 and 600 are Hinyx B too.
<-- don't you understand?

I've personally asked to my country's reseller.

Give us some proofs please. Your country's reseller in my opinion isn't so reliable.

[Punisher!]

Another update :)

Just got new TCCD RAM :)

XMS-PC4400C25 (2.5-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD

Brainpower PCB - BP MLL E186014

Its identical to the set reviewed at Anandtech except it has black headspreaders...

Doing 270 2.5-3-3-10 with my a8v but im sure it undervolts aswell at 2.7v

Tested upto 295 so far stable but this board has issues with 1T above 260 so ill wait for the DFI before extensive testing :)

Nice one. Added :D.

[CTKP]

Give us some proofs please. Your country's reseller in my opinion isn't so reliable.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=604760&postcount=334

[Punisher!]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=604760&postcount=334

Replied.

[Punisher!]

News?

[over@locker886]

Hungarian site
600Mhz A-DATA with newest chip than GSkill?
http://forum.hwsw.hu/index.php?showtopic=16555&st=3240 (first text)
600Mhz A-DATA on Samsung 443 chip, and 566Mhz on 431 chip?
So better 443 than 440??

[domwells]

Shouldn't Corsair XMS 3200 v1.2 be CH-5 instead of 6?
If not then what does the 5 or 6 at the end mean?

[Punisher!]

Shouldn't Corsair XMS 3200 v1.2 be CH-5 instead of 6?
If not then what does the 5 or 6 at the end mean?

Chip revision (higher = worse in Winbond chips).

[charlie]

great thread!
Saw some low budget patriot LL 1gB kit.... DDR400 2-3-2-5
Any idea what's inside?

[Punisher!]

great thread!
Saw some low budget patriot LL 1gB kit.... DDR400 2-3-2-5
Any idea what's inside?

They could be CH-5, but also TCCD I think.

[Piotke]

Friend of mine has these sticks:

XMS3202v6.1

XMS3202v3.1

Anybody an idea what chips are below the heatspreaders ?

[clarence]

great thread!
Saw some low budget patriot LL 1gB kit.... DDR400 2-3-2-5
Any idea what's inside?

Is it PC3200LL?? If so, then they have Mosel Vitalec ICs on BP pcb. I had 1x512 b4 & it doesn't work well with 2 nf2 mbs I tried.

[clarence]

Shouldn't Corsair XMS 3200 v1.2 be CH-5 instead of 6?
If not then what does the 5 or 6 at the end mean?

5=5ns (DDR400)
6=6ns (DDR333)

[domwells]

so CH-5 then.. cool cheers

[Punisher!]

Vitesta DDR600 Hynix B confirmed (a friend of mine bought them)!

I am a bit late, I am sorry, list updated. :D

[BeSaiD]

ADATA DDR566 and DDR600 can be both, TCCD and Hynix B, as i told you before ;)

[Punisher!]

I don't think Vitesta 566 too...

Anyway...

I would like to know how new are my TCCDs in my GeIL Ultra-X, but look at the CPU-Z "SPD" form:
LOL
http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/ocZ2_s.jpg
Week\Year: 255 ... -_-

What about yours?

[domwells]

your soo lucky week 255's are meant to be really good! (I heard they didn't make many past week 52)

[iddqd]

You don't mind if I use your memory list for my sticky I'm working on (not this forum)?

[BeSaiD]

What chips does the Mushkin PC2700 Level II has? They are used (not new) and it's rated@ 2-2-2-5...

Thank you.

[Punisher!]

You don't mind if I use your memory list for my sticky I'm working on (not this forum)?
Yes, just write my name at the end! :D

[RADCOM]

Excellent and informative post thanks. I just purchased my 1st bh5 memory; I was so excited I bought 6x256MB. Now the moment of truth has anyone hear of RAM BO memory-W942508BH-5

[komer]

corsair xms3200c2 v5.1 - Mosel Rev A -5

corsair xms3200c2 v6.1 - ???

what about this?

[clarence]

Excellent and informative post thanks. I just purchased my 1st bh5 memory; I was so excited I bought 6x256MB. Now the moment of truth has anyone hear of RAM BO memory-W942508BH-5

U from Hong Kong??? RamBo is a brand of ram from Hong Kong. They seem to use their own pcb, but ppl's opinion of them are rather polarised - some swear by them & some swear at them.
I had 2 sticks of RamBo rams, 1x256 Nanya PC2100 & 1x512 Winbond BH6, both working fine at default speeds. I haven't oced them as they're not installed on "enthusiast" mbs. They seemed to have changed the pcb on their Winbond CH5, & it doesn't work with Epox 8RDAs at DDR400. The RamBo shop in HK still have Winbond CH5s for sale, they also offer sticks with chips from Hynix, Samsung, & Infineon.

[RADCOM]

U from Hong Kong??? RamBo is a brand of ram from Hong Kong. They seem to use their own pcb, but ppl's opinion of them are rather polarised - some swear by them & some swear at them.
I had 2 sticks of RamBo rams, 1x256 Nanya PC2100 & 1x512 Winbond BH6, both working fine at default speeds. I haven't oced them as they're not installed on "enthusiast" mbs. They seemed to have changed the pcb on their Winbond CH5, & it doesn't work with Epox 8RDAs at DDR400. The RamBo shop in HK still have Winbond CH5s for sale, they also offer sticks with chips from Hynix, Samsung, & Infineon.
No I am not from HonG Kong but it would be nice place to visit :P London UK
thanks for the update!

[D_o_S]

Yes, a great job you have done indeed :up:


Keep it up, Punisher!

[clarence]

No I am not from HonG Kong but it would be nice place to visit :P London UK
thanks for the update!

Where u bought them in UK??

[tom_ed]

you can get them off ebay here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=75517&item=6738590561&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
for £29.99 each 256mb sticks.
Havent seen any shops that sell them in UK yet.

[clarence]

you can get them off ebay here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=75517&item=6738590561&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
for £29.99 each 256mb sticks.
Havent seen any shops that sell them in UK yet.

Yep, those were the ones from HK. I wonder who stocked up on those BH5.

[RADCOM]

Where u bought them in UK??
London! I bought my memory from that guy :) I thought we weren't allowed to link to ebay items or is that in another forum I'm member of
:confused:

[metro.cl]

one question i pmed oneopenbook about a 2x512mb kit a he said the best ones are LE but in your rank the best on is LA and i can only find LA in 2x256mb

im kinda confused, can anyone help me??

[IronAge]

Somebody knows if these oones got the TCCD ICs as well ?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-138&depa=1

Or what about those ones ?

PQI4400-1024DB

http://www.pqimemory.com/spec.asp?link=/dc/PQI4400-1024DB.htm

thx and bye

btw: i am a newbie here - so calm down ;)

[Punisher!]

Somebody knows if these oones got the TCCD ICs as well ?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-138&depa=1

Or what about those ones ?

PQI4400-1024DB

http://www.pqimemory.com/spec.asp?link=/dc/PQI4400-1024DB.htm

thx and bye

btw: i am a newbie here - so calm down ;)

PQI4400-1024DB use TCCD chips on Brainpower PCB, perhaps new ones, but I need input. :D

[IronAge]

PQI4400-1024DB use TCCD chips on Brainpower PCB, perhaps new ones, but I need input. :D

Tell me a place where i can order them for a reasonable price and i will get em and post a report here. (US/Europe doesnt matter).

Edit: found one.

Two single PQI4500-512SP are a little cheaper than PQI4400-1024DP Kit

Are they supposed to have TCCDs as well ?

thx and bye

[IronAge]

You can add:


"mushkin PC 4400 and PC 3700 memory use samsung TCCD rev. F

the 4400 is also on brainpowered PCB, wheras the 3700 is on JDEC standard."

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48608&postcount=34


http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4202d7b102273cfc2740c0a8010205e6/Product/View/991399
http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4202d7b102273cfc2740c0a8010205e6/Product/View/991400


http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4202d7b102273cfc2740c0a8010205e6/Product/View/991397
http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4202d7b102273cfc2740c0a8010205e6/Product/View/991398

[Punisher!]

You can add:


"mushkin PC 4400 and PC 3700 memory use samsung TCCD rev. F

the 4400 is also on brainpowered PCB, wheras the 3700 is on JDEC standard."

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48608&postcount=34


http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4202d7b102273cfc2740c0a8010205e6/Product/View/991399
http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4202d7b102273cfc2740c0a8010205e6/Product/View/991400


http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4202d7b102273cfc2740c0a8010205e6/Product/View/991397
http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4202d7b102273cfc2740c0a8010205e6/Product/View/991398


Thanks!

[Punisher!]

List and classification updated (with Mushkin and PQI PC-4000 low latency).

Notice: I have not added PQI PC-4400 because I have heard they could be also Hynix... I need input on them!

[IronAge]

Hi there,

look at this review

http://www.fastlanehw.com/reviews.php?i=141&page=3

He reviews the PQI4000-1024DPL which he got directly from PQI and states
that they have Samsung TCCD memory ic's.

Since there ist a link on the PQI site directly to this review i think the information should be legit.

Thx for maintaining this great list - good work :toast:

[Punisher!]

Hi there,

look at this review

http://www.fastlanehw.com/reviews.php?i=141&page=3

He reviews the PQI4000-1024DPL which he got directly from PQI and states
that they have Samsung TCCD memory ic's.

Since there ist a link on the PQI site directly to this review i think the information should be legit.

Thx for maintaining this great list - good work :toast:

NP m8, anyway yep, in fact PQI4000 had been added without doubts! :D

[Punisher!]

UP 4 standing!

[IronAge]

In germany there have been spotted new A-DATA DDR-500 with 449 TCCD ic's !!!

one of them has:

MDOSSBF3H4740B1G0Z
DDR500(3) 512MX16
S/N:503XR (SCBJC1916)

On the ic's

Samsung 449
K4H560838F-TCCD

(!!!)

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=104095

attention - alien language ;)

Since there are DDR-500 Modules with other weeks as well i suppose A-DATA has changed the production towards TCCDs.

thx and bye.

[Punisher!]

In germany there have been spotted new A-DATA DDR-500 with 449 TCCD ic's !!!

one of them has:

MDOSSBF3H4740B1G0Z
DDR500(3) 512MX16
S/N:503XR (SCBJC1916)

On the ic's

Samsung 449
K4H560838F-TCCD

(!!!)

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=104095

attention - alien language ;)

Since there are DDR-500 Modules with other weeks as well i suppose A-DATA has changed the production towards TCCDs.

thx and bye.

Unbelievable! :D
Great piece of news, thanks!

I have taken a look at the link, but actually I can't see that quote... where did you see it?

[shuRe]

XMS-PC3200LL Rev3.1 (2-3-2-6-1T) --chip--> Infineon B-5 ????
I have these and they are TCCD, running at 260 2.5-3-3-10

[steve-0]

Punisher, BeSaiD is right. Some ADATA DDR566 are not TCCD

in spain at the begining all the ADATA DDR566 where TCCD, but they are not anymore

[Punisher!]

Punisher, BeSaiD is right. Some ADATA DDR566 are not TCCD

in spain at the begining all the ADATA DDR566 where TCCD, but they are not anymore

Here (Italy) Vitesta DDR566 are ALL TCCD at the moment, anyway, do you have any screenshots?

[Punisher!]

XMS-PC3200LL Rev3.1 (2-3-2-6-1T) --chip--> Infineon B-5 ????
I have these and they are TCCD, running at 260 2.5-3-3-10
Can you post CPU-Z "SPD" and "Memory" schedules please?

[IronAge]

Opps. Wrong thread. I am sorry.

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=104308&page=1


BTW:

the A-Datas which carry a SC/SS in the Part number (in the brackets behind the serial number) do have Samsung TCCDs. the ones which have HY in that code have HYNIX memory ICs.

Samsung TCCD
MDOSSBF3H4740B1G0Z
DDR500(3) 512MX16
S/N:503XR (SCBJC1916)

HYNIX

MDOHYBF3H4740K1G0Z
DDR500(3) 512MX16
S/N 452XR (HYBJC1916)


These are A-Data 600 which have TCCDs for sure.

MDOSSLF3H47...
S/N: XXXXX (SCBMC1916).


That way they can be distinguished und you know what you get.

The A-Datas with TCCDs are reported to have compatibility probs with ASUS AV8 boards by the way. Not sure if there are issues with other boards which carry the VIA K8T800 chipset as well.

[gundamit]

Just wondering if this is worth an edit:
Ultra Platinum PC4000 (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D43
I think Geil is closing this out since they only list the dual channer kit and no single sticks here. (http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=24)
They list them as CAS 2.5 7-4-4 @ DDR500MHz PC4000. No doubt these are the same Hynix chips which they feature in their Ultra 4200 and 4400 which have to loosened up to 3-8-4-4 to run that high. I can get to just about 261 with my Adata Hynix at CAS 2.5 on my LP UT. I run it every day at 269x12 w/my Intel on my Abit IS7 w/loose timings.

BTW - Outpost has single sticks of the Ultra PC4000 on sale for $83 for a single 512mb. (http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4324885?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG) Not extreme unless you consider price/performance.

[Punisher!]

Just wondering if this is worth an edit:
Ultra Platinum PC4000 (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D43
I think Geil is closing this out since they only list the dual channer kit and no single sticks here. (http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=24)
They list them as CAS 2.5 7-4-4 @ DDR500MHz PC4000. No doubt these are the same Hynix chips which they feature in their Ultra 4200 and 4400 which have to loosened up to 3-8-4-4 to run that high. I can get to just about 261 with my Adata Hynix at CAS 2.5 on my LP UT. I run it every day at 269x12 w/my Intel on my Abit IS7 w/loose timings.

BTW - Outpost has single sticks of the Ultra PC4000 on sale for $83 for a single 512mb. (http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4324885?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG) Not extreme unless you consider price/performance.

Those are GeIL Ultra Series, not GeIL Ultra Platinum.

[Punisher!]

List updated:
PC4000 Vitesta DDR500 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D43, D5 or Samsung TCCD (few)
PC4500 Vitesta DDR566 --chip--> Samsung TCCD - Modified JEDEC PCB or Hynix B (few)

(Notice: I heard also about Vitesta DDR600 with new Infineon RAM chips but I need more input)

[Rabbi_NZ]

(Notice: I heard also about Vitesta DDR600 with new Infineon RAM chips but I need more input)
nice find Punisher, this is a great thread.
would you mind sharing where you heard bout the Infineon memory?

[Punisher!]

nice find Punisher, this is a great thread.
would you mind sharing where you heard bout the Infineon memory?
Thanks m8. :D

A french forum, but actually I can't remember it right now.

[gundamit]

Punisher, what's the difference between Geil GL1GB4000DC and GL1G4000DC. I'm guessing the extra B means a revision but what kind of change was made? Also curious about the non Platinum Ultra. "Platinum" refers to more than just the color of the heat spreaders right? Outside of the Outpost item, can't find any Geil PC4000 Ultra memory that is not labled Platinum. :confused:

[perkam]

Been searching the net for this day-in day-out...It would be nice to see a list of ALL TCCD that can do pc-4400 at 2.5 NOT just ram that IS PC-4400 at 2.5. (*Other than gskill*)

Ty, hope its an easy feat.

Perkam

[Punisher!]

Punisher, what's the difference between Geil GL1GB4000DC and GL1G4000DC. I'm guessing the extra B means a revision but what kind of change was made? Also curious about the non Platinum Ultra. "Platinum" refers to more than just the color of the heat spreaders right? Outside of the Outpost item, can't find any Geil PC4000 Ultra memory that is not labled Platinum. :confused:

Then search more... :D http://www.geilusa.com/dealers.asp

1GB = 1G = 1 GigaByte (no differences)
:D

Ultra Series and Ultra Platinum are different series.

Ultra Series are old Ultra-X Series (perhaps they contains Samsung TCC5)

Ultra Platinum contains Hynix chips.

[ooztuncer]

Thanks for everyone for this thread, especially PunisHHer :D

Right now I have 2x256 MB PC3200 CL3 184-Pin DIMM KVR400/256R Kingston Value Rams. My questions are:

1) Which chips are used on these memory modules? (such as TCDD, Infineon, Hynix...) --- I know it can be Hynix D43, D5, Samsung TCCC, TCC4, or anything else but how can I be sure?

2) I find that one module has "Kingston" label on the chips. Are these just re-labeled from another manufacturer like Samsung, or really manufactured by Kingston. In either case, I need some details or specifications (especially on optimal timings and voltage settings for DFI NF4 Ultra mobo)

And here some clues that I find after my research and a phone call to Kingston:


1. MODULE:
KVR400/256R 740617076530 2.6V
Assembled in USA
Part number is:
99C5192-011.A00
1626522-0721467
Chips are labeled as "Kingston" (however no finding on Kingston chips in google). On top of the chips here is what I can decipher:

"Kingston
N422024W1C
0422NO1
D3208DX1T-5U"

2. MODULE
KVR400/256R 740617076530 2.6V
Assembled in Taiwan X01
Part number is:
99R0006-001.A00
P742261-0280573
Nothing is written on chips except:
32Mx8 DDR400

One more note: Chips on this module are almost half the size of the chips in Module 1, AND this one has two circular holes in the middle of the module.

Say it curiosity or enthusiasm or kinda hobby, kinda obsession after some point... Help me...
__________________
Cooler Master Cavalier 3
OCZ ModStream 450 watt
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 ULTRA-D Bios:01/25/2005
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 939
LEADTEK PX6600 GT TDH
2x256 Kingston DDR 400 Mhz Value Ram CAS3
160 GB Western Digital Caviar SE Ultra ATA/100
Lite-On SOHC-5232K
MAG LT782-S 17" LCD monitor

[steve-0]

List updated:
PC4000 Vitesta DDR500 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D43, D5 or Samsung TCCD (few)
PC4500 Vitesta DDR566 --chip--> Samsung TCCD - Modified JEDEC PCB or Hynix B (few)

(Notice: I heard also about Vitesta DDR600 with new Infineon RAM chips but I need more input)

do you believe it now?? ....

[fatty]

Quick question what chips are these they are on the OCZ4200EL non platinum timmings are 2.5447 after looking around it says they have these chips
X4W56080D-4L so they have a latency of 4 and they are on the brain power B6U808 pcb

Oh and great list too :D

[RocKer]

Q:

Is it a good idea to buy 2*256 MB OCZ 3700 EB for s754,i ask becaus i can buy them at good price secondhand.

Sorry if it dos'nt fit in here,but i think its silly to start new tread for it,dont you think.

[F|apDro|`]

the EB's usually go high on s754 but on my s939 MSI they suck bigtime :P

[ooztuncer]

Thanks for everyone for this thread, especially PunisHHer :D

Right now I have 2x256 MB PC3200 CL3 184-Pin DIMM KVR400/256R Kingston Value Rams. My questions are......



Here is the blanket answer that for sure I am not satisfied with...


Dear Onur,

We use many different DRAM manufacturers for our memory (including our own
chips which are made by us). These parts may be made with one of any number
of DRAM chips.

You should set the memory timings to auto. It is not recommended you
manually set any timings for this part number.

The differences in the modules are differences in design on the circuit
boards used. These boards will be different depending on what components
are used. But all the modules are built and tested to the same standards
and specifications.

PS: Please respond with e-mail history.

Best regards,
Glenn Neumeister
US Technical Support
Kingston Technology


Unhappy :stick:

[TEDY]

friend has CORSAIR XMS 3200LL 1.1 and SPD reports 200 2-3-2-6 , why ? weird.

[Punisher!]

do you believe it now?? ....
Yeah, I have received more inputs, and that's why :D.

[Punisher!]

friend has CORSAIR XMS 3200LL 1.1 and SPD reports 200 2-3-2-6 , why ? weird.
Are you sure about revision?
If they don't support 2-2-2-5 they could be CH-5 or Infineon B-5. Ask your friend to try.

[TEDY]

CMX256A-3200LL XMS3205v1.1

0322048-4

XMS3200 256MB 400MHZ 2326

[funkflix]

Corsair PC3200 C2 Rev. 5.1

http://people.freenet.de/funkflix/corsairc2label.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/funkflix/corsairc2ic1.jpg

Mosel Vitalic ICs! Very bad overclockers!

[perkam]

Whats the deal with Hynix D43, ppl on Newegg are claiming that the Geil Ultra Platinum PC-4000, which is listed as Hynix D43 can do:


I am running totally stable at 271 1:1 2.9V 2.5,8,4,4

And at least 3 other ppl said the same thing. That may not be bh-5 or even bh-6 or even ch-5, but its got to be something !!!..

Perkam

[Punisher!]

Whats the deal with Hynix D43, ppl on Newegg are claiming that the Geil Ultra Platinum PC-4000, which is listed as Hynix D43 can do:



And at least 3 other ppl said the same thing. That may not be bh-5 or even bh-6 or even ch-5, but its got to be something !!!..

Perkam
They are quite good, nothing exceptional. Those guys have been a bit lucky.

[perkam]

oh...

*ty for bursting the bubble* :(

Always nice work though Punisher.

Perkam

[Punisher!]

oh...

*ty for bursting the bubble* :(

Always nice work though Punisher.

Perkam

Np m8, always ready to help :D.

[chunkylover77]

Punisher I submitted this thread for the front page news. Great job.

[annoncompgeek]

Is there anywhere i can find a complelte breakdown of kingstons modules? The ones i have arent listed. I'd assume they were ch-5 because they easily do 200mhz 2-3-2-5 1t but i need to know for sure before i vdimm mod my av8.

ram chips labeled D32080X1T-5R

[Punisher!]

Punisher I submitted this thread for the front page news. Great job.

Thanks a lot m8. :banana:

What about sticking it too? :D

[funkflix]

U can add the 3200C2 5.1 if u wish ..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=707042&postcount=124

;)

[Punisher!]

U can add the 3200C2 5.1 if u wish ..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=707042&postcount=124

;)

Sure. ;)

[chunkylover77]

Sorry Punisher but I cant sticky it. You have to talk to a mod for that.

[Punisher!]

Sorry Punisher but I cant sticky it. You have to talk to a mod for that.
PM sent. Let's see :D.

[bias_hjorth]

Made it sticky - Superb job Punisher! :toast:

[Punisher!]

Made it sticky - Superb job Punisher! :toast:

Thank you man! :toast: :D

[groovetek]

dunno if this has been asked... but i'm trying to make sense of this line:

"-300 Mhz" = under 300 Mhz of about 5*(2,)3,4,5(,6) Mhz except rarity.

that being the 5*(2,)3,4,5(,6) Mhz bit...

[Punisher!]

dunno if this has been asked... but i'm trying to make sense of this line:

"-300 Mhz" = under 300 Mhz of about 5*(2,)3,4,5(,6) Mhz except rarity.

that being the 5*(2,)3,4,5(,6) Mhz bit...

In other words it means that they can reach at most (290 or) 285 or 280 or 275 (or 270) Mhz except rarity :D.

[shimmishim]

question about the centon that can do ~+300

1. does anyone sell this besides directly from centon? and
2. is it the pc3200 low latency that is TCCD or the pc4000? cost difference is about $20

thanks!

[steve-0]

Do you know what chips have a 512MB corsair c2 pc3200 rev3.2 ?

thank's in advance :toast:

[steve-0]

Do you know what chips have a 512MB corsair c2 pc3200 rev3.2 ?

thank's in advance :toast:

well, i already have it here, i expected to be a BH-5 part, but it isn't. it doesn't boot even with Cas 2. oh well, maybe it's broken or there's an incompatiblity problem... what do you think?

[blander]

Is there anywhere i can find a complelte breakdown of kingstons modules? The ones i have arent listed. I'd assume they were ch-5 because they easily do 200mhz 2-3-2-5 1t but i need to know for sure before i vdimm mod my av8.

ram chips labeled D32080X1T-5R

hi, on my kingston hyperx 3200ak2 are chips labeled as D3208D13R-5A
but i hink its not ch-5, does someone know the chips?

[DaveX]

wow gj, yours pwns my outdated one

http://www.xtremeresources.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32086&page=1

we have a lot of the same info (never seen this thread before, haven't visited here in awhile)

:toast:

[gundamit]

Then search more... :D http://www.geilusa.com/dealers.asp
1GB = 1G = 1 GigaByte (no differences)
:D
Ultra Series and Ultra Platinum are different series.
Ultra Series are old Ultra-X Series (perhaps they contains Samsung TCC5)
Ultra Platinum contains Hynix chips.
I was standing in line over at Fry's yesterday (wanted to look for a replacement for my CBBID stepping A64 - no go) and saw that Geil PC4000 512mb sticks were still on sale for $80 a pop. Curiosity got the better of me and I purchsed a pair.

I threw them in my DFI NF4 rig and put them at their advertised timings of 2.5-4-4-7. On stick tops out at 267, the other 266. Nothing on the package says anything about voiding the warranty if I took a look under the super cheap aluminum/tin? heatspreaders so I pulled one off and took a picture.

Looks like the same GL3LC32G88TG-35 memory that was reviewed
here. (http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1447)

This stuff seems a lot like my Adata Hynix that I tested on my DFI LPUT, crapping out right around the same place.

Whatever it is it seems like a good deal for someone who doesn't have the volts to give to the TwinMos SP UT, or can't plow another $50 into some TCCD. Me personally, I would rather have the Speed Premiums or some killer GSkill. So what am I doing with this stuff? Curiosity kills cats like me! Darn! I'm such a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:! :rolleyes:

[longshot]

I do not see OCZ PC4200EL modules on this chart? they are TCCD also on a Brainpower PCB

[Jackass]

I do not see OCZ PC4200EL modules on this chart? they are TCCD also on a Brainpower PCB
yeah same with OCZ EL DDR PC3700 Platinum they are TCCD on BP808

[Punisher!]

Added OCZ VX PC4000 (they are the same as PC3200, just guaranteed at 250 Mhz).

[shimmishim]

hi,
after seeing this thread, i ordered the mushkin pc4400 to use with my epox 9nda3j and i haven't been able to hit higher than ddr540... even with 3-4-4-8 and 2.9 volts, i cannot hit anywhere near 300 with 1T.

with 2T, i can hit 300 with 2.5-4-3-8 and 2.85 volts...

i assumed that hitting 300 was with 1T or was I wrong to assume that?

[Punisher!]

hi,
after seeing this thread, i ordered the mushkin pc4400 to use with my epox 9nda3j and i haven't been able to hit higher than ddr540... even with 3-4-4-8 and 2.9 volts, i cannot hit anywhere near 300 with 1T.

with 2T, i can hit 300 with 2.5-4-3-8 and 2.85 volts...

i assumed that hitting 300 was with 1T or was I wrong to assume that?

It depends on the motherboard too. Yeah actually they are meant for reaching almost 300 with 1T but actually I hadn't much inputs when I put them into the classification.

[shimmishim]

i see. well thanks for the reply. how many other people have hit 300+ with the mushkin?

[dexx]

hi,
after seeing this thread, i ordered the mushkin pc4400 to use with my epox 9nda3j and i haven't been able to hit higher than ddr540... even with 3-4-4-8 and 2.9 volts, i cannot hit anywhere near 300 with 1T.

Mushkin have a good deal on that memory atm. I tried ordering it, but got this message back: "We no longer offer individual customers online sales and shipping." :(

[shimmishim]

yeah they are having a great deal! i got in on it but i'm very disappointed with its performance...

i have some g.skill 512x2 LA coming in soon so I'll see how these compare to the mushkin and keep the better of the two :)

[calcal]

i have corsair twin1024-3200c2pt and their rev 4.1 they cannot run 2-2-2-5 timings @ 400 mhz and ive got it up to only 255fsb @ 3-4-4-8
these cannot do 300mhz

[calcal]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-138&depa=1

can these run 2-2-2-5 timings @ 400 mhz with 2.6vdimm

do you have a link where u saw these @ ~ 300mhz?

i really want to get these

[Punisher!]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-138&depa=1

can these run 2-2-2-5 timings @ 400 mhz with 2.6vdimm

do you have a link where u saw these @ ~ 300mhz?

i really want to get these

- All TCCDs do 2-2-2-5 @ 400 mhz.

- They could m8. I have no link of 300 mhz.

[Punisher!]

i have corsair twin1024-3200c2pt and their rev 4.1 they cannot run 2-2-2-5 timings @ 400 mhz and ive got it up to only 255fsb @ 3-4-4-8
these cannot do 300mhz

Are you sure they are 4.1 and not 5.1? Because those sound like Mosel Vitelic ICs.

[calcal]

my mistake its 4.2
but still shouldnt it be able to do 2-2-2-5 with any errors?
i got an error within 17 minutes

heres the full model #:
xms3202v4.2

[Punisher!]

my mistake its 4.2
but still shouldnt it be able to do 2-2-2-5 with any errors?
i got an error within 17 minutes

heres the full model #:
xms3202v4.2

XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD & TCC5

All TCCDs support 2-2-2-5 @ 200 Mhz, then you have TCC5 and you must be happy with 2-3-3-6 :D.

[calcal]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i need that 2-2-2-5 timings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if i leeave it @ 2.8vdimm would all the errors go away?

EDIT:::
i noticed it said SAMSUNG TCCD+TCCC
is it mixed or it could be either one?

[calcal]

my cousin has twinx-3200c2pt
and his are revision 5.1
using that mosel chips
are those any good????
can they run 2-2-2-5 and overclock well?

[Punisher!]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i need that 2-2-2-5 timings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if i leeave it @ 2.8vdimm would all the errors go away?

EDIT:::
i noticed it said SAMSUNG TCCD+TCCC
is it mixed or it could be either one?

For sure they aren't TCCC, but TCC5.

CAS 2 IS NOT MAPPED on TCCC.

[Punisher!]

my cousin has twinx-3200c2pt
and his are revision 5.1
using that mosel chips
are those any good????
can they run 2-2-2-5 and overclock well?

Actually they aren't well-known to overclock high, anyway, just ask him to try and tell us!!! :D

[WiCKeD]

i see. well thanks for the reply. how many other people have hit 300+ with the mushkin?Didn't even know they switched to BP...

Screw the lame Mushkin deal, just buy the PQI guys, it's the best deal ($225): http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-138&depa=0 Mine each did ~280fsb individually. TCCD is TCCD and they use the best BP PCB. :cool:

For the record, I can't even recall 1GB of anything that has hit 300+ fsb with 2.5-3-3-X timings, 1T CPC and normal volts.

Nice thread Punisher, The Runner's info was getting dated. :toast:

[shimmishim]

it's not a lame deal. my sticks do 290 fsb with 2.5-4-3-X timings 1T CPC individually...

together, they will not do above 275ish... pretty sure i'm board limited.

[Punisher!]

Added OCZ VX Value and Twinmos with New BH-5 :D.

[calcal]

is windbond ch-5 chips any good?

[Punisher!]

is windbond ch-5 chips any good?
Yeah, quite good, not exceptional.

[perkam]

Hmmm...anybody got any ideas for a DDR2 ram list with specs and stuff???

Cause if anyone wants to start one, I'm sure Fugger, FCG, Stilt and some others would probably have expertise in it too. Its really hard to know right now which DDR2 is good and which isnt, and the automatic answer seems to be the 1GB of EB 4200 Plat which is creme de la creme but not everyone can afford the high price.

So if anyone has any ideas, sorry if this is the wrong place for this post, thought ppl here could apply their skill on finding out ddr2 info too. ;)

Perkam

[TommyW]

so which memory to buy?

GSKILL PC4400 550 TCCD or OCZ GOLD VX UTT PC3200 ??? :(

my new system soon:

3200+ 939 / DFI ULTRA-D NF4 / Sapphire X800XL / MEMORY ???

[funkymonkey]

hi people.
I am soo tired of this really lame transcend PC3200.
So I was on the look out for new 1GB RAM for my A64 3200+.
Ny aim is to get RAM that will do 270-280Mhz @ 2.5,4,X at 1T
My budget is under $200.

So far I have come across GeiL Ultra series PC4000 ( GL1GB4000DC ).
Is this confirmed same as old Ultra-x with TCCD?
Any other which will suit my aim and under $200?

[Punisher!]

hi people.
I am soo tired of this really lame transcend PC3200.
So I was on the look out for new 1GB RAM for my A64 3200+.
Ny aim is to get RAM that will do 270-280Mhz @ 2.5,4,X at 1T
My budget is under $200.

So far I have come across GeiL Ultra series PC4000 ( GL1GB4000DC ).
Is this confirmed same as old Ultra-x with TCCD?
Any other which will suit my aim and under $200?

They are in the list. They should be Samsung TCC5 (perhaps some have TCCD too). Just try 2-2-2-5 @ 200 Mhz.

List updated with:
G.Skill
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR600 1T) (2.5-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) 512M Kit (F1-3200DSU2-512FF/1GBFF) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB

Team Group
ASTAK DDR600 PC4800 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB 808


Bye! :D

[pcnmechguru]

XMS-PC3200XL/XLPT Rev1.1 (2-2-2-5-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD

ok i have above ram but i cannot do anything above 200 fsb@2-2-2-5 1T no matter what volts i throw at it

best i can do is 250x10 ram is 5:6 @208fsb timings are 2.5-3-3-7 1T again no matter what juice i throw at it

also these seem to run a bit hot they idle @ 42 c with an open well ventilated case and 55-57 c after 3 hrs of gaming

i thought these were high 1:1 action sticks i guess not ?

[Punisher!]

ok i have above ram but i cannot do anything above 200 fsb@2-2-2-5 1T no matter what volts i throw at it

best i can do is 250x10 ram is 5:6 @208fsb timings are 2.5-3-3-7 1T again no matter what juice i throw at it

also these seem to run a bit hot they idle @ 42 c with an open well ventilated case and 55-57 c after 3 hrs of gaming

i thought these were high 1:1 action sticks i guess not ?

LOL! Have you tested them with memtest @ default?
PSU?

[pcnmechguru]

LOL! Have you tested them with memtest @ default?
PSU?
yes just ran memtest for 6 hrs at 2.5-3-3-7 250 ram @208 2.85 vdimm , no errors and ran them at 2-2-2-5 1T @200 fsb 2.8vdimm no errors either

PSU is a OCZ Powerstream 520 w

[Punisher!]

yes just ran memtest for 6 hrs at 2.5-3-3-7 250 ram @208 2.85 vdimm , no errors and ran them at 2-2-2-5 1T @200 fsb 2.8vdimm no errors either

PSU is a OCZ Powerstream 520 w

I can't believe it... worst TCCD evah (even if the probem is another perhaps)...
Try following these timings:
http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/timing1.gif

Bye!

Motherboard?

[Ebola]

The first post report OCZ4001024WV3DC-K being equped with UTT chips, but in the picture below, we don't seem to be at all in such case :o

http://www.moddershq.net/~reviews/Backups/dsc000155ds.jpg

Sorry for the large picture, but i haven't got any resizer currently and btw i give the most detailed shot as possible

[Punisher!]

The first post report OCZ4001024WV3DC-K being equped with UTT chips, but in the picture below, we don't seem to be at all in such case :o

http://img57.exs.cx/img57/664/dsc000155ds.jpg

Sorry for the large picture, but i haven't got any resizer currently and btw i give the most detailed shot as possible

Actually they are (black die with just that little dot is the new UTT die)... just burn in them @ 2-2-2-5 and let us know! :D

[KoNiaK]

Really good database, thanks for this work :toast:
But it mix 512MB and 256MB sticks, sometime it's hard to understand which size you're talking about.

[calcal]

Hello i got another question

Are ch-6 anygood??????
Can they overclock very well?
Can they run 2-2-2-5 timings?

[khellandros66]

Ebola or Admin,
I used my hosting space from MHQ so you can take down the tremendously large pic

http://www.moddershq.net/~reviews/Backups/dsc000155ds.jpg

~Bob

[Punisher!]

Really good database, thanks for this work :toast:
But it mix 512MB and 256MB sticks, sometime it's hard to understand which size you're talking about.

Because they have the same chips... no matter which is the module size...

[KoNiaK]

Because they have the same chips... no matter which is the module size...

humm OK got it :D

EDIT: By the way I got 1GB kit and one 512MB stick of
"Twinmos/Winbond DDR400 (2,5-3-3-6) --chip--> Could be Winbond BH-5, CH-5, look at the chips"
My SPD is 2.5-3-3-8 on all of them but I can't say what chips they are. It don't look like Winbond only one dot on each stick and no medal thing on them :confused:

[Mowgli]

Any ideas what the Corsair TwinX 3200 C2PT Version 6.1 is?

[HiJon89]

Corsair TWINX 1024LLPT v1.2 rated at 2-3-2-6 1T
Anyone know what this stuff is?

[calcal]

windbond ch-5

[HiJon89]

Eww, good thing I haven't bought it yet :p:

[EMU]

Anyone know what is in Mushkin 3200C2? http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4292564

[Silvestre]

They are in the list. They should be Samsung TCC5 (perhaps some have TCCD too). Just try 2-2-2-5 @ 200 Mhz.

List updated with:
G.Skill
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR600 1T) (2.5-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) 512M Kit (F1-3200DSU2-512FF/1GBFF) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB

Team Group
ASTAK DDR600 PC4800 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB 808


Bye! :D
the G.Skill 1GBFF is simply awesome...it's not been released to the market though said G.Skill...next month perhaps...

[gundamit]

Anyone have an idea of what is behind the heatspreaders on Geil GL1GB3200PDC? (http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4387535) :confused:

[EMC2]

Anyone know what is in Mushkin 3200C2? http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4292564

Read this thread (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56179).

[calcal]

no time to read whats behind them>?

[Zanr Zij]

Any ideas what the Corsair TwinX 3200 C2PT Version 6.1 is?

Mosel chip

[TommyW]

cant resist so i order this memory too lol :slobber:

http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=1641&s=1

only 1000 nis its 220$ +- noy bad in here :D

[Punisher!]

*** WARNING ***
GeIL Ultra-X PC3200 now are also Winbond BH5 on BP PCB!!!

/EDIT not utt but bh5

[TEDY]

where did you hear that punisher ?

[Punisher!]

where did you hear that punisher ?
We are receiving many of them here in Italy.
Latest PC 3200 Ultra-X are all BH5 on BP PCB (~260 Mhz @ 3,3V with 2-2-2-8).

[cAsio]

hi iam new here :P and i got some question :P

anyone know what rammChips on this ramm used??
Kingston HyperX-Modul / 1x256 MB Retail
Modell:KHX3200A/256 / CL 2-3-2-6-1
PC3200 / 200/400 MHZ

in the rammlist is only AK with -winbond ch5
and only khx3200 with winbond bh5

khx3200A is not listet :stick:

[Punisher!]

hi iam new here :P and i got some question :P

anyone know what rammChips on this ramm used??
Kingston HyperX-Modul / 1x256 MB Retail
Modell:KHX3200A/256 / CL 2-3-2-6-1
PC3200 / 200/400 MHZ

in the rammlist is only AK with -winbond ch5
and only khx3200 with winbond bh5

khx3200A is not listet :stick:

A = AK, so CH-5.

Bye.

[cAsio]

ok thx than i have to search an other ram i need 250mhz 2-2-2- i dont think ch5 is ok for that :D

[Punisher!]

ok thx than i have to search an other ram i need 250mhz 2-2-2- i dont think ch5 is ok for that :D

It isn't in fact. Go buy ram with Winbond UTT or new BH5 (new GeIL Ultra-X PC3200 (before assure they are BH5 on BP PCB and not TCCD on BP PCB) for example or OCZ VX (Value or Gold it is almost the same, they are ALL UTT on BP PCB)).

Bye.

[cAsio]

thx for info but i first need 2x256mb kit because i buyed completely watercooler für €400 and amd winnie+mobo kost some € :DD

i not found 2x256mb geil ultra-x or ocz vx in any shop in germany :(

[TommyW]

GOLD VX is only in duelkit 2x512mb not 2x256! :(

[cAsio]

anyone here know who mutch mhz are in with adata vitesta pc500 , can i bring it highter than 250mhz when yes whow mutch are in mostly ?

and witch chips i read the new model got tccd the old hynix

but how high i can get with that ramm ?

[TommyW]

yes you can but with 3-4-4-8 and 3.2v its based ob d43 hynix chip :(

[Rondrian]

hi, i've got new twinmos speed premium. they work fine for me.... 249mhz 2-2-2-5 @ 3.3v but. If i raise the voltage up to 3.4 errors are displayed in memtest. Are they too hot? how to cool them down? Headspreader+fan? thx

[TEDY]

rondrian you got new 1A4T ??

[EMC2]

Don't use a "heat trapper"... just a fan ;)

[NST6563]

is this (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-151&depa=0) ram TCCD????

I'm a bit confused by the table on the first post...when the ram is listed, and the timings in ()'s...is that the timing that is advertised and spec'd by the manufacturer...or are those the timings it can run at?

thx

[perkam]

Thats PC-3200 at cas 2.5 so NO thats not TCCD.

The ram on the front page clearly states:

PQI Turbo PC-3200 at (2-2-2-5) and PQI Turbo PC-4000 at (2.5-3-3-7).

Nice try though :D

Perkam

[NST6563]

Thats PC-3200 at cas 2.5 so NO thats not TCCD.

The ram on the front page clearly states:

PQI Turbo PC-3200 at (2-2-2-5) and PQI Turbo PC-4000 at (2.5-3-3-7).

Nice try though :D

Perkam

so what your saying is that the timings that are in ()'s are what the mfr is advertising for that module. If that's the case...then that just cleared up a LOT :D

[Rondrian]

well..... the errors are still appearing.... 1 80mm fan blowing on the sticks.... help!

[NST6563]

well..... the errors are still appearing.... 1 80mm fan blowing on the sticks.... help!

I've read over on the DFI forums that people are having luck "burning in" thier sticks. Basically, they set it to whatever voltage (mostly 3.1 or 3.2v) and then they let Test #7 crank on them for hours at a time. After a period of time doing that, it seems that a lot of them can get them stable w/o errors.

I may try something similar when I can order some new ram.

[Rondrian]

hum.... on vdimm up tp 3.3 they work fine...

[Punisher!]

_
List updated! Look @ "New"!

[koei]

http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4241db140004b5242740c0a8010205b0/Product/View/990992
A little confused. This module is UTT on BrainPower PCB?

[Punisher!]

http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4241db140004b5242740c0a8010205b0/Product/View/990992
A little confused. This module is UTT on BrainPower PCB?
Yeah. Look @ here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56685

[Disposibleteen]

_
List updated! Look @ "New"!
niceness

[koei]

Thanks for the reply. Just bought some. Too bad all the cheap sources are in US and won't ship to Canada. What do they have against Canadians anyways! Ended up being about $200CAD, but still cheap for UTT and BP.

[Punisher!]

Thanks for the reply. Just bought some. Too bad all the cheap sources are in US and won't ship to Canada. What do they have against Canadians anyways! Ended up being about $200CAD, but still cheap for UTT and BP.

Np! Let us know! :D


niceness

:D :toast:

[ooztuncer]

I'm sorry I chose the easy way! I was wondering what these modules use: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ+EL+DDR+PC-3200+Dual+Channel . I am confused because in the first page I couldn't find any OCZ with 2-3-2-6 default timings. My estimate is UTT, however I'm not sure...

AND, if you know a proved/high performance BIOS setting for this RAM with DFI NF4 ultra-d can you please post it for me?

PS: I especially like this :cord:

[Punisher!]

I'm sorry I chose the easy way! I was wondering what these modules use: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ+EL+DDR+PC-3200+Dual+Channel . I am confused because in the first page I couldn't find any OCZ with 2-3-2-6 default timings. My estimate is UTT, however I'm not sure...

AND, if you know a proved/high performance BIOS setting for this RAM with DFI NF4 ultra-d can you please post it for me?

PS: I especially like this :cord:

Yeah, you are right. They are not on the list and actually I do not know which chip they have.

[Punisher!]

*** IMPORTANT UPDATE ***
New OCZ PC4800 with Samsung TCCD on Brainpower PCB!!!

EL PC4800 Platinum Edition (1GB Kit: OCZ6001024ELDCPE-K) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif

[God_Lx]

Any ideia on what's Patriot LLK ? Probably getting 2x512 for 100€ (I think it's pretty cheap for Portugal) How good will they do ? They're going on a A8V with a 3000+ (Don't even have the CPU yet so i can't tell you what fsb i'm aiming...)

[masterofpuppets]

Never took notice of this thread before, great stuff!

[Ashe]

Is there some kind of "official" statement about Mushkin Blue CL2 being UTT?

[TEDY]

which chips TWINMOS TWISTER 512MB pc 3500 ?

[gundamit]

which chips TWINMOS TWISTER 512MB pc 3500 ? New BH-5 1A4T

[TEDY]

there're not new...still with yellow hs

[alexnake]

where can I buy G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600 1T) (2.5-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) (F1-3200DSU2-512FF/1GBFF)?

[Punisher!]

where can I buy G.SKILL PC4800(DDR600 1T) (2.5-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) (F1-3200DSU2-512FF/1GBFF)?
It seems they are still unavailable in the market.

[alexnake]

:( do you know when it will be available?

[Punisher!]

:( do you know when it will be available?
Actually I do not.

[americium]

TwinMos
Twinmos/Winbond DDR400 (2,5-3-3-6) --chip--> Could be Winbond BH-5, CH-5, look at the chips

Twinmos with Winbond UTT (relabeled as Twinmos\M.Tec) <--chip--
(*) Twinmos SpeedPremium (after week 46/2004 with UTT & BP PCB)
(*) Two Dots marking
(*) AA4T (not AADT or 1A4T)
(*) Metal Dots (two in each side!)
(*) 44D (or 50D) TMD marking (some 60D PC2700 too)

Twinmos with New Winbond BH-5 (relabeled as Twinmos\M.Tec) <--chip-- http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
(*) Twinmos SpeedPremium (after week 46/2004 with BH-5 & BP PCB)
(*) Two Dots marking
(*) 1A4T (not AADT or AA4T)
(*) Metal Dots (two in each side!)
(*) 44D (or 50D) TMD marking (some 60D PC2700 too)


Hey Punisher. I just went through TwinMOS website and I found some news regarding the Speed Premium series that you might want to update your list to make it more accurate.

Speed Premium PC3200 (DDR400) are based on the Winbond CH-5 ICs, link: http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_sp_dualchannel_ddr400.htm#f.

Speed Premium PC3500 (DDR433) are based on the Winbond BH-5 ICs, link: http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_sp_dualchannel_ddr433.htm#f.

I do know some people have PC3200 BH-5 sticks which is quite weird. Anyway, this info is straight from their website so I guess most PC3200 are CH-5 and most PC3500 are BH-5.

[Punisher!]

Hey Punisher. I just went through TwinMOS website and I found some news regarding the Speed Premium series that you might want to update your list to make it more accurate.

Speed Premium PC3200 (DDR400) are based on the Winbond CH-5 ICs, link: http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_sp_dualchannel_ddr400.htm#f.

Speed Premium PC3500 (DDR433) are based on the Winbond BH-5 ICs, link: http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_sp_dualchannel_ddr433.htm#f.

I do know some people have PC3200 BH-5 sticks which is quite weird. Anyway, this info is straight from their website so I guess most PC3200 are CH-5 and most PC3500 are BH-5.

Are you sure?!

I would like to see some screenshots @ 2-3-2-6 for CH-5 and 2-2-2-5 for BH-5 before adding these:

Speed Premium PC3200 (DDR400) (2,5-3-3-8) --chip--> Winbond CH-5, BH-5 (few)
Speed Premium PC3500 (DDR433) (2,5-3-3-8) --chip--> Winbond BH-5

[NiCKE^]

It's like he says, PC3500 will come will new BH-5 and PC3200 got UTT(CH-5) and BH-5.

[americium]

Unfortunately I don't have any screenshots as I don't have those sticks myself but I guess that the TwinMOS should be pretty accurate if they mention it. What I can do tell you is that one of our crew members has ordered SP PC3200 and they were CH-5.

TwinMOS has just issued today a press release with the topic "TwinMOS launches Speed Premium DDR433 modules with Winbond BH-5 Dies" so I guess all PC3500 will be BH-5.

[Punisher!]

Unfortunately I don't have any screenshots as I don't have those sticks myself but I guess that the TwinMOS should be pretty accurate if they mention it. What I can do tell you is that one of our crew members has ordered SP PC3200 and they were CH-5.

TwinMOS has just issued today a press release with the topic "TwinMOS launches Speed Premium DDR433 modules with Winbond BH-5 Dies" so I guess all PC3500 will be BH-5.

Ok, I will add them tonight. Now I must run! Bye and thanks! :D

[KoNiaK]

Hey Punisher. I just went through TwinMOS website and I found some news regarding the Speed Premium series that you might want to update your list to make it more accurate.

Speed Premium PC3200 (DDR400) are based on the Winbond CH-5 ICs, link: http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_sp_dualchannel_ddr400.htm#f.

Speed Premium PC3500 (DDR433) are based on the Winbond BH-5 ICs, link: http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_sp_dualchannel_ddr433.htm#f.

I do know some people have PC3200 BH-5 sticks which is quite weird. Anyway, this info is straight from their website so I guess most PC3200 are CH-5 and most PC3500 are BH-5.

Sorry but I think this isn't true :shrug:

First off all here we are speaking about 'new' UTT BH5 and 'new' UTT CH5 - the last is commonly call UTT - old ones aren't produced anymore.
UTT means UnTesTed - by winbond. CH5 is revC of the die and BH5 is revB, 'new' die seams to have been writen in a thinner technology.

Secondly, contrary to what is writen in the base not all SpeedPremium with UTT have BP PCB. I guess it is the case as well for Twinmos SP with new UTT but I do not have any proof of this.

[Punisher!]

Added the one sure @ 100%:
Twinmos Speed Premium PC3500 (DDR433) (2,5-3-3-8) --chip--> Winbond New BH-5 http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif

Bye.

[HousERaT]

Secondly, contrary to what is writen in the base not all SpeedPremium with UTT have BP PCB. I guess it is the case as well for Twinmos SP with new UTT but I do not have any proof of this.

Just to confirm..... I have both the TMSP and TMII UTT (Both AA4T) gigs and neither have the BP PCB..... got them at Newegg.com in the states.

[KoNiaK]

Just to confirm..... I have both the TMSP and TMII UTT (Both AA4T) gigs and neither have the BP PCB..... got them at Newegg.com in the states.

So I guess you can also remove 'PCB BP' on twinmos SpeedPremium AA4T since I'm not the only one who have experience this.
And why not distinguish new RevB and revC chips :confused:

[Pt1t]

So I guess you can also remove 'PCB BP' on twinmos SpeedPremium AA4T since I'm not the only one who have experience this.
And why not distinguish new RevB and revC chips :confused:


Then What is that : CH5 ,BH5, Utt(CH5), Utt(BH5) ??? :stick:

2*512Mo Twinmos Speed Premium :
Stable (25*memtest 5) 260mhz 3.3v 2-2-2-5

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t//utt260.PNG

[Crimson_dAWN]

Bravissimo Punisher, noi Italiani ce l'abbiamo lunghissimo :D :D :D

Great Job! :D

[Punisher!]

Bravissimo Punisher, noi Italiani ce l'abbiamo lunghissimo :D :D :D

Great Job! :D

Grazie, hehehehe :D.

[Jesse71]

Nice work !!! :toast:

[Punisher!]

Then What is that : CH5 ,BH5, Utt(CH5), Utt(BH5) ??? :stick:

2*512Mo Twinmos Speed Premium :
Stable (25*memtest 5) 260mhz 3.3v 2-2-2-5

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t//utt260.PNG

Just try the CAS 3 boot and discover it by yourself (they are BH5 or UTT) ;).

[xgman]

pc4800 ocz may alternatively be using Samsung "TCC5" IC's in at least the pc4800 el plats according to OCZ. Most likely very similar or same as tccd.

[KoNiaK]

So I guess you can also remove 'PCB BP' on twinmos SpeedPremium AA4T since I'm not the only one who have experience this.
And why not distinguish new RevB and revC chips :confused:

So Punisher!, what do you think :confused:
Not convince ? you need photos ?

[KoNiaK]

Then What is that : CH5 ,BH5, Utt(CH5), Utt(BH5) ??? :stick:

2*512Mo Twinmos Speed Premium :
Stable (25*memtest 5) 260mhz 3.3v 2-2-2-5

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t//utt260.PNG

CH5 = revC die
BH5 = revB die
UTT CH5 = new revC die (comonly call UTT)
UTT BH5 = new revB die

Your screen is great, but I don't see the point to post it here :rolleyes:
There's other thread for that :D