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higherøx
01-08-2005, 01:01 PM
P4 2.40C@3.7GHz - 309 FSB
ASUS P4C800 Deluxe Rev1.02, unmodded
Memory ???
R9700@PRO
Audigy ES
Thermaltake 480w W0019 Butterfly

I've got an OCZ DDR BOOSTER.

Now, I need a memory to 300FSB stable.
What memory to buy?
OCZ EL PC4400 Gold, lifetime warranty up to 3.15v.
OCZ EL PC3200 Gold voltage eXtreme, lifetime warranty up to 3.67v.

I'm not going to buy TCCD+Brainpower because the results on Canterwood chipsets are not going as well as on nF3/nF4. And this is my question about the OCZ VX.
Does this memory work well on Canterwood chipsets? Can it do 300MHz without invalidating its lifetime warranty?
Or PC4400 Gold would be the better choice for 300FSB on Canterwood?

Thanks...

PS.: My English is just terrible. Sorry :( :D :banana:

enzoR
01-08-2005, 02:06 PM
VX wont do 300 at 2-2-2 and since its winbond i dont think it will scale much higher with looser timeings but check the Xtreme Twinmos thread in "xtreme bandwidth" i believe their are some results in that thread on the UTT chips. hipro got 260 1:1 2-2-2...

higherøx
01-08-2005, 04:21 PM
this 300 FSB doesn't need to be at 2 22.
it can be at 3 44, no problem :D

googles
01-09-2005, 12:01 AM
i dont think the vx does well on intel-canterwood.

Micutzu
01-09-2005, 02:44 AM
Go for TCCD, timings aren't really that important on Intels, compared to sheer bandwidth.

ed.howell
01-09-2005, 08:52 AM
Go for TCCD, timings aren't really that important on Intels, compared to sheer bandwidth.

I would go with the PC4400EL Gold. I believe they are hynix chips which work better on Intels than TCCD. I have the OCZ PC4200EL Platinum which are TCCD and I was told by OCZ that they have found that TCCD works better on AMD's than Intels. TCCD allows tighter timings though

300FSB 1:1 is gonna be pretty hard to do though.

Good luck

Ed

higherøx
01-09-2005, 06:10 PM
thank you :)

is there any better option to do 300 fsb on canterwood?
thanks

ed.howell
01-09-2005, 07:32 PM
thank you :)

is there any better option to do 300 fsb on canterwood?
thanks


Like I said, go with the OCZ PC4400EL Gold!! :D

Navig
01-09-2005, 10:12 PM
I've investigating some decent RAM for my 2.4c (into windows at FSB 327 woohoo).

I think the hynix based will generally get you the highest FSB (routinely seen FSB 290).

I've been in communication with jack at g.skill, he's pretty clear you could expect FSB 280s for Intel for their PC4400/PC4800 tccd.

g.skill's PC4400 actually seems to be a cheaper than OCZ's EL hynix, so I'm leaning towards those.

Folks just don't seem to be interested anymore in super high speed RAM for Intel.

navig

ed.howell
01-10-2005, 05:29 AM
Folks just don't seem to be interested anymore in super high speed RAM for Intel.

navig

Isn't that the truth. All this TCCD ram is great for AMD but not as great for Intel.

enzoR
01-10-2005, 05:55 AM
yea TCCD sucks for intel. as far as VX i dont know. people useing VX have only managed to scale it high on intel with 3-2-2 timeings while the twinmos UTT (supposed to be the same chips) can get to 260 2-2-2-5. does OCZ optimize theirs for AMD?

higherøx
01-14-2005, 06:03 PM
Thanks! :)

PC4400 Gold will be in my hands in a week.

ed.howell
01-14-2005, 08:01 PM
Thanks! :)

PC4400 Gold will be in my hands in a week.

Awesome, I am sure you won't be disappointed!!! :D

higherøx
01-15-2005, 05:28 AM
Awesome, I am sure you won't be disappointed!!! :D


I hope! :D

:cool:

ZEROKOOL
01-15-2005, 09:31 AM
i have oczpc4400 on 875P and i have gotten very close to 300fsb, and my 4400's got up to 4.1Vdimm ...NO PROBLEMS

higherøx
01-15-2005, 02:01 PM
:eek:

With 3.1v daily I would have warranty?

because the warranty is 3v+5% = 3.15v

Cheers

ed.howell
01-15-2005, 05:26 PM
:eek:

With 3.1v daily I would have warranty?

because the warranty is 3v+5% = 3.15v

Cheers

I have seen posts from OCZ workers on this and other forums and they have said "if you break them we will fix them" with regards to voltage. So I wouldn't worry about the voltage limits. If you were honest with them and didn't do anything crazy I am sure they would still warranty them. Their customer service is second to none.

higherøx
01-15-2005, 05:30 PM
Thank you! ;)

ed.howell
01-15-2005, 06:28 PM
Thank you! ;)

No problem. Keep us posted when you get your new ram!! :D

kryptobs2000
01-15-2005, 06:51 PM
Seems like all types of memory are just worse with intel

jjcom
01-15-2005, 09:25 PM
I thought OCZ's warenty was 10% + or am I off?

jjcom

HiJon89
01-15-2005, 09:29 PM
I thought OCZ's warenty was 10% + or am I off?

jjcom
OCZ's warranty is pretty much, 'If its it one piece, you're under warranty.'

jjcom
01-15-2005, 09:33 PM
I see...than I guess its time to see what the AN7 does with its higher volt options :D

jjcom

ed.howell
01-16-2005, 04:45 AM
I see...than I guess its time to see what the AN7 does with its higher volt options :D

jjcom

Ya OCZ is a awesome company with great customer service. PUSH that ram!! :D

[XC] moddolicous
01-16-2005, 04:55 AM
Isn't BH-5 still the best on intel. I thought TCCD was good for AMD

kryptobs2000
01-16-2005, 05:13 AM
Not sure how BH-5 does on an intel, tho I know it's not much worse than amd, and tccd is alot worse in comparison on intels from what I heard.

Perc
01-16-2005, 05:53 AM
i picked up a pair of adata pc4000 and on my ic7/3.2e i could reach 285 1:1 using these memorys. i gave up on 2-2-2 timmings for intel. i also have a pair of ocz 4400 performance series that did the same 280 1:1. i believe both my adata and the ocz were sporting the hynix d-43 chips....

peace perc,

higherøx
01-16-2005, 07:32 AM
No problem. Keep us posted when you get your new ram!! :D

Ok :) Thank you for you attention.

Thanks to who posted.

My history with memories :D:
I had 2x256 generics. Nice $hit... i could overclock my 2.4c only up to 3ghz with 5:4... 3:2 didn't post
Then I bought 2x256 Geil Ultra DDR400... Good memory, but the support is terrible... they didn't answer my emails... The memory I used at 285FSB 5:4 = 458MHz 2.5 3-3-6... But I needed more..
Then I bought 2x256 OCZ EL PC4000 Gold... Nice memory, nice support... I used it at 285FSB 1:1 = 570MHz 3 4-4-7, pat on, performance mode turbo. but 512mb wasn't a good size anymore... trying to buy I 1gb, I bought 2x512 ocz el pc4000 gold rev2...
this memory was simply terrible... does not go more than 260mhz and killed my overclock (3.1ghz sucks:D)
so now i'm trying pc4400 and won't change memory anymore. ddr booster i bought because 2.85v is not sufficient.

my english is terrible... i'm sorry!!! hehehe

ed.howell
01-16-2005, 08:58 AM
I gave up on 2-2-2 timings also. I think BH5 is still the king of Intel when it comes to 2-2-2 timings and up to 250FSB if you can feed it the voltage.

I have OCZ PC4200EL Platinum which is TCCD and it still works good. I am at 245FSB with 2-3-3-5 timings, but that is the best I can get no matter what the voltage. I was thinking I could get 2-2-2 when I bought it but oh well. When I bought these chips OCZ hand tested them on a mobo like mine and got 290FSB 2.5-3-3-8 and I think that's pretty good. But my mobo limits me to no more than 278-280FSB. :(

The OCZ memory higherøx bought is Hynix chips.

higherøx
01-16-2005, 11:09 AM
Ok!! ;)

enzoR
01-16-2005, 11:14 AM
yea BH-5 is king with intel. great compatibility with dividers and scales good with voltage. can run up to 270 2-2-2 if the mobo can handle it. TCCD just sucks for intel.

HiJon89
01-16-2005, 11:25 AM
yea BH-5 is king with intel. great compatibility with dividers and scales good with voltage. can run up to 270 2-2-2 if the mobo can handle it. TCCD just sucks for intel.
How good is 1GB of BH-5 on Intel? I'm waiting for the Muskin BH-5 in my sig to arrive, the person I got it from said they did 2-3-3-7 at 245FSB with 3.3V on AMD, can I expect better on Intel?

ed.howell
01-16-2005, 11:29 AM
yea BH-5 is king with intel. great compatibility with dividers and scales good with voltage. can run up to 270 2-2-2 if the mobo can handle it. TCCD just sucks for intel.

I wouldn't say that TCCD sucks for Intel, you will still get descent timings just not as good as on AMD. Like I said above OCZ hand tested my memory to 290FSB 2.5-3-3-8@2.85volts on an Asus P4C800E mobo. I think that is really good since the OCZ PC4400EL Gold with Hynix chips will do the sameFSB but at 3-4-4-8.

But if you want 2-2-2 timings BH-5 is king on Intel like you said. This TCCD I have will only do 2-2-2 up to about 225FSB. but 2-3-3-5 at 245FSB.

higherøx
01-16-2005, 02:53 PM
Did you see the price of OCZ EL PC4200 Platinum?


:eek:

higherøx
01-17-2005, 01:11 PM
If i used the ddr booster, how much voltage would i set in bios?
2.55v, 2.65v, 2.75v, 2.85v???

P4C800 Deluxe Rev1.02

Thank you

ed.howell
01-17-2005, 04:38 PM
It doesn't matter as long as you adjust the booster to display the correct voltage that is being supplied to the ram. There is a little adjustment screw on the side of the booster so the led matches the voltage being supplied with the booster turned all the way down.

Did that make any sense?? :confused:

If not when you get the booster the instructions will show you what to do. ;)

higherøx
01-17-2005, 04:43 PM
It doesn't matter as long as you adjust the booster to display the correct voltage that is being supplied to the ram. There is a little adjustment screw on the side of the booster so the led matches the voltage being supplied with the booster turned all the way down.

Did that make any sense?? :confused:

If not when you get the booster the instructions will show you what to do. ;)

I understood perfectly :D

Thank ya.

ed.howell
01-17-2005, 05:11 PM
Not a problem :D

higherøx
01-19-2005, 12:37 PM
Not a problem :D

:cool:

___

Just 6 days now :) :banana:

Can you tell me what voltage are the 1GB kit's (of PC4400 Gold) needing to do around 300MHz (on I875P)?

I'm anxious ^^ :comp10: :D

Cheers

higherøx
01-24-2005, 08:22 AM
my memory did not arrive.
i think before the weekend it'll be in my hands. :(

Aleman
04-10-2005, 07:47 PM
does OCZ optimize theirs for AMD?
You should read the OCZ Website :P

Optimized for Athlon 64 based motherboards
Source: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_4000_gold_vx

IamAnoobieCheez
04-10-2005, 08:00 PM
Are there any 512mb stick BH-5s that can do T-1/Fast Decode & 2-2-2? You can still have loose latency even at 2-2-2. I know the 256mb BH-5s do well with all those turned on for ultimate performance, can the 512mb sticks do the same? How good are the new low latency Corsair XMS series?

kryptobs2000
04-11-2005, 07:14 AM
yes