Custom phase change controller "Golden Froster"

[Sneil]

ah ok, thanks golden eagle:) good to know
and sorry by dumbed i meant lesser features, wasnt demeaning it or anything
Thanks again:toast:

[Philly_Boy]

Hey, Chilly, am I getting the XE on my dual compressor, triple evap unit? I'd be willing to wait for it if it turns out to be *that* much easier to install.

[Icy]

can somone just confirm the latest version as xe? and also is that the one with the 4 line lcd screen. If so who do i have to PM to get one of these babys in the UK! :D I love this thing soooo much got to get one. only wish they had black boards rofl as all the boards in my pc are black even my network card rofl

[Sneil]

can somone just confirm the latest version as xe? and also is that the one with the 4 line lcd screen. If so who do i have to PM to get one of these babys in the UK! :D I love this thing soooo much got to get one. only wish they had black boards rofl as all the boards in my pc are black even my network card rofl
This is what chilly1 said in a pm
"the Xe has a 2 by 16 (characters) display the X had a 4 by 24 display.. they both have 4 temp probes and one fan header// and teh same software basically."

the Xe is the same as the full with just a smaller screen

[jinu117]

This is what chilly1 said in a pm
"the Xe has a 2 by 16 (characters) display the X had a 4 by 24 display.. they both have 4 temp probes and one fan header// and teh same software basically."

the Xe is the same as the full with just a smaller screen

And instead of using 2 PCB integrated 1 PCB making wiring much cleaner. It is IMHO more refined controller in every sense.

[Rabbi_NZ]

can you connect mains voltage directly into the device or does it need a 12v power adapter or something?

[Golden_Eagle]

Snail: no worries man. Actually I said it´s no dumbed because it´s a whole new desing; but you are right, it has less features It´s only one themp probe input in the G-Froster Xe and the LCD is smaller.

ICY: Xe is in fact the last controller released. U will get a pm with a quote asap. About the black pcb... we just can get green around here :(

Rabbi_NZ: Yes, you need to use an adapter.

Regards.

[jinu117]

Snail: no worries man. Actually I said it´s no dumbed because it´s a whole new desing; but you are right, it has less features It´s only one themp probe input in the G-Froster Xe and the LCD is smaller.

ICY: Xe is in fact the last controller released. U will get a pm with a quote asap. About the black pcb... we just can get green around here :(

Rabbi_NZ: Yes, you need to use an adapter.

Regards.

And correct me if I am wrong, swapping LCD means just matter of reprogramming firmware a little bit anyway to accomodate LCD sizing in concern (I know you don't have time to explain now). I myself thought it was great move to go 16x2 to reduce cost since all you will really care would be evap temperature display (small things adds up in cost quick otherwise)

[Golden_Eagle]

you are completely right jinu117 :thumbsup:

[Ssilencer]

can somone just confirm the latest version as xe? and also is that the one with the 4 line lcd screen. If so who do i have to PM to get one of these babys in the UK! :D I love this thing soooo much got to get one. only wish they had black boards rofl as all the boards in my pc are black even my network card rofl

YGPM

[fatty]

Can one of these be used to power and control 2 compressors run side by side and what sort of shut down and start up proceedure do they have??
Cheers

[Entsafter]

yes, because you can power up 1, 2 or 10 compressors with a relay...
I've also a question: can I use k-probes with the gfroster? would be much eassier, because on my dualhead are 2 k-probes and 1 with a 2 pin connector...

[Ssilencer]

yes, because you can power up 1, 2 or 10 compressors with a relay...
I've also a question: can I use k-probes with the gfroster? would be much eassier, because on my dualhead are 2 k-probes and 1 with a 2 pin connector...

If you are asking for a procedure like a cascade, golden is finishing the cascade controller for Extremecorvette in some days, and it will be using K type probes. The actual frosters can't use k type.
If you want to power up/shutdown 2 compressors at the same time, you have to get a G-Froster X (up to 80amps) or get in touch with us by pm or msn.

[Entsafter]

No, it's for a single-stage...
I think chilly1 ordered normal g-froster x, but there is only 1 probe in the cpu evap and noone in the gpu evap.
I'll talk with chilly1 later

[fatty]

OK no what I was asking is I would like to control 2 compressors instead of a single duel headed unit 2 units on duel cpu's ....Also will the g-froster have thermal protection to shut down both compressors should one fail to hit temperature or not or if either overheats ???
Many thanks

[chilly1]

No, it's for a single-stage...
I think chilly1 ordered normal g-froster x, but there is only 1 probe in the cpu evap and noone in the gpu evap.
I'll talk with chilly1 later

I am awaiting the new controlers and i amn sending you another probe,, just ran out...

[Ssilencer]

OK no what I was asking is I would like to control 2 compressors instead of a single duel headed unit 2 units on duel cpu's ....Also will the g-froster have thermal protection to shut down both compressors should one fail to hit temperature or not or if either overheats ???
Many thanks

The G-frosters uses the thermal probe in the evap to control startup and emergency shut downs (also sense de 5v line to see if it is runing for shut down), if the evap don't reach a desired temp or "overheat" at 0c for example, the system will shut down. As you already know the compressors have his own thermal protection, so if the compressor shut down, the thermal probe will sense the rising temp and will shut down the system.

[Golden_Eagle]

G-Froster X can handle 8A on norlmal compressor runing, but spikes of up to 90A on the start up. That would be perfect for more than 1 compresor.
You can allways add an external switch (high current relay) with better current handling hability, to controll bigger loads.

G-Froster X is perfet to attend you requirements, you can control the whole system, and check the themps of the 4 temp probes to make the compresors turn of in case of a failure. We´ll need a new fimrware, that i´m about to release anytime soon.

[fatty]

Ok no probs can you pm me cost and shipping to the uk also when the firmware will be available

[chilly1]

I use a relay to ruin 2 compressors of gigher amperages.. I can throw one inthe next order if you want... I should have controllers in if you want to PM ssilencer and ask if he can ship yours i my next batch also...

[Ssilencer]

I use a relay to ruin 2 compressors of gigher amperages.. I can throw one inthe next order if you want... I should have controllers in if you want to PM ssilencer and ask if he can ship yours i my next batch also...


Good idea

[REBEL900]

Ssilencer & Golden_Eagle, hey guys long time no see.. Happy holidays :toast:

I still have to flash the firmware and install the software..:)

[Ssilencer]

Ssilencer & Golden_Eagle, hey guys long time no see.. Happy holidays :toast:

I still have to flash the firmware and install the software..:)

Happy holydays for all of you guys!
I hope I can get online in my pc again in this year :(

Rebel900, thank you mate, btw I got the liquid electrical tape you sent me as a gift! thanks!!!
We will talk by msn anyday and do the update.

We need a page for the frosters as soon as possible, for the firmware updates, FAQs and etc.

[Sneil]

so how soon will chilly1 have the new controllers? he told me 2weeks like a month and a half ago:(

[Ssilencer]

G-Froster Xe

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/815/xefinal0070qh.jpg

[Ssilencer]

Oh, I forgot, Shipped

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1373/xefinal020large8ls.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2550/xefinal0227yz.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3076/xefinal0291yg.jpg

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2687/xefinal0251uu.jpg

:up:

[chilly1]

Good job guys and thanks for all your work... :) :thumbsup:

[Overklokk]

Here's the G-Froster Value diagram :)

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8238/gfvalueinstalation6xt5su.jpg

Whats the 9v AC thing?

can i run 220v right inn too it like its on the diagram?

[Calderbrae]

The 9V thing represents a package transformer. Basically its the same type of device you might use to charge your cell phone with.

[{.bLanK} GoD]

Oh, I forgot, Shipped
:banana: :woot:
That means mines next :)

[Ssilencer]

:banana: :woot:
That means mines next :)

Lol SURE!
Tomorrow I will get something that I need for your X, please, send me a msg by msn, I forgot to tell you somehtinhg I think.

Overklokk, you need a 220 to 9v 0.5A adapter for the value and a 220 to 15v 1A transformer for the Xe

[Sneil]

can the X lcd be used on the Xe? that would be nice:)

[Golden_Eagle]

Whats the 9v AC thing?

can i run 220v right inn too it like its on the diagram?

The diagram shows the connection with an ac-ac adapter.
You Must use it.
9Vac @ 500mA

[Golden_Eagle]

can the X lcd be used on the Xe? that would be nice:)
Yes, but it would be useless since the firmware only shows 16x2 chars.
Btw, in case you still want to use the bigger lcd, you have to use a different wire.

[Ssilencer]

For the people getting the G-Frosters Xe:

Quick installation guide in PDF (http://rapidshare.de/files/11247443/G-Froster_Xe_1.2_-_Quick_Instalation_Guide.pdf.html)

[chilly1]

LCD's are IN!!!!! PM me with Updated shipping addresses for fast shipment!!!!

[star882]

The 9V thing represents a package transformer. Basically its the same type of device you might use to charge your cell phone with.
Or more suited for this application, a chassis mount transformer that can be purchased from a local electronics store. Something like that: http://jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=105523&pa=105523PS .
However, a 9v chassis mount transformer is not that common so I think it'd be better it it were designed to use a 12.6v transformer, which can be purchased from Radio Shack. Or better yet, use the 5vsb line for power.

Chilly1, have you thought about a MOSFET inverter for compressor speed control in a high end version?

[Ssilencer]

9v only for the Values, the X and Xe uses 15v, you can use a 7.5+7.5v transformer or a 18v transformer too.
We are now adding a new function: Controll an electronic valve from windows Froster software... it will take a litlle time, but I think it will be great.

[{.bLanK} GoD]

Just ordered my 220v to 7.5+7.5vac 2.5amp tranny (lol). I need a bit of extra grunt for the large condensor fans. btw i love ur new avatar Ssilencer hehe

[Ssilencer]

Thats great Mr Point :D
The froster he is getting is a special version, that can handle up to 2.5 amp for the fans, so, just 1A for Xe and 1.5A for the X are needed.

[Shyfty]

Is Chilly1 still the contact for purchasing in Canada and US?

My project is here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=87671

It has two discrete units. Air chill and liquid chill. Do you have the relay necessary for controlling two units from 1 GF?

Do any of the GF options operate as a t-stat? I am looking to leave my system on all the time and would like both units to cycle between set points. I already have the t-stats, just want to know if there would be any redundancy, and how the two would interact/ conflict.

Fan control would also be beneficial for me as I have two 120mm fans on the front of the case which I would like to be able to adjust according to temp of the compressor(s).

Also, to get cable access to the mobo, I have to run them into the chillbox through air tight ports...this requires a long run in some instances! How long are the cable/ wires?

I assume they are USB compadible now?

I don't have an electronics background.... :) this all look far too complicated...

[johann]

It would have been great if the power supply could have been included in the unit.

Why 15v ac?

[jinu117]

It would have been great if the power supply could have been included in the unit.

Why 15v ac?


--> IN agreement here. I guess it is matter of cost justification as parts prices are not best in the place where Golden Eagle is making these. Not to mention actual manufacturing cost going up once you start putting good quality power regulation in there... I am pretty sure he will work it out over time. (another thing might be the fact it is geared for both 110v and 220v crowd and complicates circuit finding right coils with right size.

PS) SSilencer on left and Golden eagle on right on the picture right? :)

[Coyote]

dont forget shipping, power supplies weight twice as much as a froster does, so it would increase the shippings costs a lot. it makes no sense shipping them from here, when you can buy them there.

[{.bLanK} GoD]

I assume they are USB compadible now?..

im pretty sure they are still serial.. well mine (still under construction) is anyway

[Ssilencer]

Hey shyfty, nice to see you here.
If you want special features for your controller, contact me by pm or msn, and yes, chilly1 manage the sales on the states.
Also, God is right (no pun intended, lol)
Coyote already answer for me, a transformer will double the shipping costs.
We will be going the usb way when we get time to finish research, also migrating to K type probes as soon as possible.

[Shyfty]

Pretty tough to buy something when there is no response. PM'd Chilly1 over a week ago for prices and nothing...

[Master_G]

Pretty tough to buy something when there is no response. PM'd Chilly1 over a week ago for prices and nothing...
He's been really ill of late so you probably wont get a reply until he has recovered.

G

[kayl]

dont forget shipping, power supplies weight twice as much as a froster does, so it would increase the shippings costs a lot. it makes no sense shipping them from here, when you can buy them there.


the transformers are heavy little buggers:mad:
in my had it feels like a kg, so much weight for such a little item.

Hey Ssilencer, if the Xe's need 15v to run after regulation would it be better to go with 18V??
ie what voltage are the regulators regulating the 15AC to DC wise?? 12v DC??
this one here is multi taped for 12v 15v and 18v i think ill be using 18v:toast:

[Golden_Eagle]

It´s better if you use 15v. If you use 18v, the regulator will be disipating more power without any benefit.
Controller works with 12v dc, after regulation.

[Entsafter]

How much wattage can the fan controller spend?
Is it enough to power a delta fan?

[Golden_Eagle]

You can use up to 1A in the fan output.
THere are many diferent models of Delta fans. Most of them can be used with the controllers..

[fatty]

Is there any news on the cascade controller?? I was told you may be looking into making something ??

[chilly1]

Well teh Xe's I got 6 repaired today that makes 14 left to straighten out.. so far all is well with testing.. No real lasting damage.. still awaiting DHL to aknoledge teh claim and pay for teh parts and time to fix them...

[Ssilencer]

That was incredible, I think next package will have to be double cage or a cage with an alu frame or something like that.

[Ssilencer]

Is there any news on the cascade controller?? I was told you may be looking into making something ??

Cascade controller is almost ready, it took a lot of time, more than we thought, but because of time to do other things, like the Xe.


We want to thanks Gray Mole for all his help in UK , you are a great guy :clap:!!!

[{.bLanK} GoD]

Well teh Xe's I got 6 repaired today that makes 14 left to straighten out.. so far all is well with testing.. No real lasting damage.. still awaiting DHL to aknoledge teh claim and pay for teh parts and time to fix them...

:eek: What happened to your Xe's? did the courier drop kick it to your doorstep?

[chilly1]

the box got crushed

[Carlz0r]

It´s better if you use 15v. If you use 18v, the regulator will be disipating more power without any benefit.
Controller works with 12v dc, after regulation.
If it works with 12v dc, could we not just bypass the actual power regulation and use a standard 120vac to 12v DC adapter? Or does the regulator also have other voltages?

[Golden_Eagle]

The controller needs 12v for relays and fan, 5v for the logic.
you can use 15v dc if you want. but it would be ponitless in mi opinion.

[Carlz0r]

The controller needs 12v for relays and fan, 5v for the logic.
you can use 15v dc if you want. but it would be ponitless in mi opinion.
Ahh, ok. I thought you meant that everything ran on 12v. So it just takes 15v-18v ac input?

[Golden_Eagle]

that´s right

[cdelong]

Who is selling the Controllers in the USA? Any chance of buying a Froster-X Controller (the larger LCD with 4 fan controls) from you?

Can I run it off my PC's PSU or will it require it's own power supply (and what type of power does it require)? Would it fit easiy into a Vapochill LS case?

[{.bLanK} GoD]

Who is selling the Controllers in the USA? Any chance of buying a Froster-X Controller (the larger LCD with 4 fan controls) from you?

Can I run it off my PC's PSU or will it require it's own power supply (and what type of power does it require)? Would it fit easiy into a Vapochill LS case?

Contact Chilli1 for the u.s
It requires its own power supply, the X takes a 15vac 500ma
There is only 1 fan controller on the G froster.
You can find all these answers in the last few pages of this thread.

[jinu117]

Contact Chilli1 for the u.s
It requires its own power supply, the X takes a 15vac 500ma
There is only 1 fan controller on the G froster.
You can find all these answers in the last few pages of this thread.

or no fan controller for value :P

[Carlz0r]

Well, my G-Froster Xe is ordered, just waiting for the paypal e-check to clear. Can't wait for it to get here :D

[cdelong]

G-Froster Xe

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/815/xefinal0070qh.jpg

are the cables/header to connect to a DFI NF4 SLI-DR included? USB or serial??

[yngndrw]

are the cables/header to connect to a DFI NF4 SLI-DR included?
As far as I know, yes.


USB or serial??
Serial.

[Gray Mole]

Cascade controller is almost ready, it took a lot of time, more than we thought, but because of time to do other things, like the Xe.


We want to thanks Gray Mole for all his help in UK , you are a great guy :clap:!!!

Good news on the cascade controller :D I'm looking forward to seeing that happen, I'd love to use it on my cascade when it's all together :woot:

And your welcome with the help my friend :toast:

If there's any problems with the Frosters here in the UK, be it shipping 'issues' or firmware problems or whatever I'm happy to see if I can put it right and save having to send it back across the water.

Cheers

Gray

Ps. Happy birthday Ssilencer :D

[Ssilencer]

Good news on the cascade controller :D I'm looking forward to seeing that happen, I'd love to use it on my cascade when it's all together :woot:

And your welcome with the help my friend :toast:

If there's any problems with the Frosters here in the UK, be it shipping 'issues' or firmware problems or whatever I'm happy to see if I can put it right and save having to send it back across the water.

Cheers

Gray

Ps. Happy birthday Ssilencer :D


Thanks very much friend!
I think I will do a new thread on the cascade controller, we need some help on the routine, so people with experience in cascades can post some advice, also, as we had talk, I want to use an electronic valve, controlled by the froster in a single stage, I don't know if there is any for a single, but maybe a good feature for cascades, WRDZAL had helped us with some info, but we need some more.

Also, we want to give a free G-Froster Xe to the people in xs, dont know if as a giveaway or a contest price, maybe another thread for that too :D

We have another surprise for the people in xs, but we will talk about later...

[fatty]

:toast: I like surprises :D and realy looking forward to the cascade froster

[{.bLanK} GoD]

Yippy it's like xmas, unwrapping my G froster X :)
Heres all the bits
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44176&stc=1&d=1141276920

My Yummy lcd screen

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44179&stc=1&d=1141276920

The power board has a massive heatsink for a little board.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44178&stc=1&d=1141276920

Controlboard closup

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44177&stc=1&d=1141276920

And finally the transformer (robot in disguise)

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44180&stc=1&d=1141276920

Im over the moon with the product i have received, delivery was fast (6 days).
Can't wait to get it installed.
Thanx heaps Golden and Sscilencer. :party:

[GrossmeisterB]

What I'm always wondering about: why do you need such a massive heatsink?!!? I use an external 230VAC to 12VDC adaptor and ONE voltage regulator, no cooling needed at all, the 230VAC to 12VDC adaptor powers the fan(s), the voltage regulator all the other stuff...
Even the transistor for fan regulation doesn't need such a huge heatsink..

Just my thoughts, I dunno exactly what else you got on the board there "eating" up the power... ;-)

[SoddemFX]

I think Golden Eagle uses triacs to switch on and off the compressor, they do dissipate quite a bit of power with a few amps through them but triacs and a large heatsink are probably a lot cheaper than relays.

The 877 is such a versatile PIC, like the swiss army knife of microcontrollers :D

Very clean design, just looking at the main controller board you have implemented a textbook soloution to the design problem.

I dont know what pricing is like where you are Golden Eagle but in the UK there are cheaper RS-232 level convertors which work just as well as the MAX232.

Tom

[Golden_Eagle]

god I´m glad you like the controller, hope you find it useful.

soddem is right about the triacs.
the 877 is a graat controller as you said. but it´s geting a little bit obsolete from my point of view.
About the max232, we get what we can here. there´s allways some components out of stock in the stores, so we have to get some others to replace them.

[GrossmeisterB]

Ah, ok, Triac for the compressor, then I know why he needs such a huge heatsink...

But yeah, the design of the controller board looks clean, maybe you switch over to SMD and can make it even smaller...but without professional equipment, SMD is a pain in the a... to work with...hehe...

[Sneil]

Just got my Xe in last night. Im a little lost with setting this baby up. So i guess I need a transformer to power the thing:confused: Didn't know that, where would I go to pick one up?

[jinu117]

or if you can find cheap dc power source that would work too.

[{.bLanK} GoD]

X and Xe are 15vac
value is 9vac

[Golden_Eagle]

we are looking forward to mak smd controllers. but it´s not worth it unless you sell them in really high qty´s

Sneil, you need an ac adapter for your controller. If you have any doubt about connections pleser reffer to the installation diagram.

[Ssilencer]

I updated the first post (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=661390&postcount=1) of this thread with all the info and pics on the controllers

[boostedevo]

Does anyone happen to have cross-reference P/N for NTE or RadioShack even for the LM335 temp sensor on the Value? Mine's been flakey for a while now and I temporarily have the unit out so I figured it would be a good time to repalce it. My local Fry's only carries NTE brand and I can't find any cross-reference for the National LM335Z and I refuse to order one $.69 part from Mouser :)

Thanks

[Golden_Eagle]

as far as i know, only National Semiconductor makes this ic.

[boostedevo]

Thanks, and that figures. Any ideas of a retail chain (RadioShack, etc.) that might carry them? Mouser has them, I'd just feel stupid mail ordering a single piece that costs less than $1. I am not even sure if that is the issue, I was just told to try it. The display has been reading "E8C" for months and I am getting tired of looking at it :rolleyes:

[Ssilencer]

contact me or golden by pm, so we can see if that is the problem (it apears to be) and help you

[Sneil]

Some questions with wiring my Xe.

1) In the diagram I connect the Xe to the PC PSU from the number 2 connection on the right hand side the diagram. How exactly do I go about doing this? :confused:

2) On the #3 connector beside the #2 I need to connect to the Compressor. What part of the compressor should i connect to? HERE (http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/appliance/pdf/cat2r9s3r126a-6b.pdf) is a wiring diagram of my compressor..

3) Lastly why do I need the ac adapter when there is a male connector to the PSU? I guess i can assume the pc psu doesnt power the unit so what then is the connector for?

thanks, I hope these questions aren't annoying but I can't afford to wreck any of this expensive hardware so please be patient when answering.

[Carlz0r]

Some questions with wiring my Xe.

1) In the diagram I connect the Xe to the PC PSU from the number 2 connection on the right hand side the diagram. How exactly do I go about doing this? :confused:

I drew a quick wiring digram, hopefully it will make sense:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44712&stc=1&d=1142357034


2) On the #3 connector beside the #2 I need to connect to the Compressor. What part of the compressor should i connect to? HERE (http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/appliance/pdf/cat2r9s3r126a-6b.pdf) is a wiring diagram of my compressor..

See the above wiring diagram


3) Lastly why do I need the ac adapter when there is a male connector to the PSU? I guess i can assume the pc psu doesnt power the unit so what then is the connector for?

thanks, I hope these questions aren't annoying but I can't afford to wreck any of this expensive hardware so please be patient when answering.
I'm not quite sure why there is a connector from the psu, I think it is just to sense whether the computer is on or not.

[Sneil]

Hey thanks. It makes sence eccept still not for the PC PSU connection. when you say "plug cord for PSU in here" im not sure which cord your talking about or what its supposed to be plugged in to?:(

[Carlz0r]

Hey thanks. It makes sence eccept still not for the PC PSU connection. when you say "plug cord for PSU in here" im not sure which cord your talking about or what its supposed to be plugged in to?:(
The main power cord. The one that would normally plug into a wall socket.

[Sneil]

ok i thought tha was my "main power in".. so is main power in just the ac transformer?

i dont get it lol

[blowsion]

where can we get one of these in europe?

[Sneil]

PM ssilencer or golden eagle

[Carlz0r]

ok i thought tha was my "main power in".. so is main power in just the ac transformer?

i dont get it lol
Main power in is from the wall, so it's 120v or 240v, depending on where you live. I'll try and get some pics when mine is wired up.

[Sneil]

yes I am entirely confused now lol
hopefully you can get those pictures up soon!

[Ssilencer]

Golden will get here asap

[Golden_Eagle]

Sneil:
1), 2)
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4301/connections6sp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

3) That connector is used to detect whether the pc-psu is runing or not.
Your questions doesn´t bother at all.

[chilly1]

I dont use the froster to power up the CPU psu I usually leave it on its own...

[Carlz0r]

Ssilencer, clear your PMs :p:

[Golden_Eagle]

The connections must be done as the installation guide says.

carlzor pm me in case you need something. i´m seeing silencer tomorrow.

[chilly1]

So what you are telling me is that the Controller will not shut down the computer with the power swich but only by totally powering down the PSU??

[Golden_Eagle]

Yes, your are right chilly1, that´s the way it works, at least for now.
However, i´ll came up with new firmwares soon, so we can prevent any further troble..
Cheers

[Sneil]

Thanks alot Golden Eagle for the diagram. So I need then an inlet on my phase change case to plug the CPU psu into instead of having it normally plugged into the wall?

Thanks again GEagle that diagram was a big help:toast:

[M.Beier]

How much is the Xe version? :-)
And how do I mount it on a mach II??

[Carlz0r]

Just a quick question, where are you all getting the transformers for these? I can't seem to find a 120v to 15v transformer.

[Sneil]

just look in your yellow pages for electrical retailers or something along those lines. Mine is 120vac to 16vdc.

BTW Carlz0r. am I right about using an outlet on my case to plug in the cpu psu?

[Carlz0r]

just look in your yellow pages for electrical retailers or something along those lines. Mine is 120vac to 16vdc.

BTW Carlz0r. am I right about using an outlet on my case to plug in the cpu psu?
Yes, that is correct.

[Sneil]

alright finally i understand:slap:
thanks

[StoneRhino]

Ok so I have the XE 1.2 and everything is working. Where do I get the software for it? Can I just plug the serial port into my expert? I want to change some settings.

Also what cables can and cannot be extended. My sensor wire and my power and serial wires are not long enough. What can I do.

Will extending the sensor wire change it's reading?

[Ssilencer]

Send a pm to Golden_Eagle about technical questions, send me a pm for soft and installation pdf

[Carlz0r]

Woot! G-Froster arrived today :D Perfect condition, and great packaging. Thanks guys! :)

[Ssilencer]

Thats great man
I forgot to tell you that I received today a mail from the canadian company telling me that :D

[chilly1]

Wheres my 20 units???

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Those look pretty cool. Nicely done.

[Carlz0r]

I have a quick question. Since the g-froster changes the voltage from ac to dc afterwards, can I use a 16v dc adapter instead of an AC adapter with it? I have one of them laying around here.
EDIT: Well, after thinking it through, and checking the electronics on the board itself, it should (and does) work. But, I have a problem with the pc to g-froster communications. I get an error message:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/Carlz0r/g-frostererror.jpg

[Ssilencer]

Wheres my 20 units???

In Zarate city coming to Buenos aires city

Carlz0r, contact me or golden by msn

[Sneil]

so it turns out I need a new transformer. I've found a 18vdc plug in adapter, however when I take the voltage reading it reads 23vdc. I know the'yre always a little higher then what their rated for, but is that too high? Apparently anything between 15and18vdc are really hard to find. What type do you use Ssilencer?

[Ssilencer]

I use 7.5+7.5v.
23vdc is a ittle too much, but it depends how did you measure that, if it's 23v rms it is ok, but try to get that 7.5+7.5 or 9+9v
See if you can add me and contact me by msn msporta@cvtci.com.ar

[Gray Mole]

I know this will sound strange, but the easiest way to locate a 15-18v AC transformer is from a model train supplier.

They use 15-18v AC and their suppliers can normally source 9V AC transformers as well.

If you call a good model train shop, it's very likely they will be able to get you exactly what you need.

Approx. 20VA minimum for the 15-18v, and 6VA minimum for the 9V ac transformers.

Hope it helps.

Gray

[Ssilencer]

BTW. We will have front pannels to be included on both, the value 2.0 and xe 2.0
We will have some pics of front pannel prototype next week ;)

[chilly1]

I want 20 of teh ver 2 instead of teh ver 1

[Ssilencer]

Not ready yet, front pannel prot. next week.
We have to check with you the specs of the new xe as you know.

[Silverdoc]

Was just reading over this post and for the transformer in the US if you go to a hardware store or electric suppuly and ask for a DOOR BELL transformer you'll get what you want, I Think they are 16vac at 10va transformer but the whole door bell kit is only like $20 U.S. and there is also a door bell transformer that has an amp rating of 8-16-20vac at 20va I think the voltages are right been a while since I've put one in.

[Sneil]

those are ac tho, we need dc for these units:(

[Carlz0r]

those are ac tho, we need dc for these units:(
Actually, AC or DC will work. It's actually meant to take AC.

[Silverdoc]

I know this will sound strange, but the easiest way to locate a 15-18v AC transformer is from a model train supplier.

They use 15-18v AC and their suppliers can normally source 9V AC transformers as well.

If you call a good model train shop, it's very likely they will be able to get you exactly what you need.

Approx. 20VA minimum for the 15-18v, and 6VA minimum for the 9V ac transformers.

Hope it helps.

Gray
I was just going by What Grey Mole posted. And the door bell transformers will do fine. and look better too. (full encloseure, with screw in terminals most of the time)

[Gray Mole]

Yeah it's definitely and AC to AC transformer you need.

I hadn't thought about Bell transformers, if you can get one with an adequate amperage rating then yes, it's a good one too.

There will be a few different places you can talk to to find these things, but I know that when I started looking I had some difficulty finding them at first. It's very easy to get from the large electrical supply houses but only if you have an account with them.

Gray

[Carlz0r]

Yeah it's definitely and AC to AC transformer you need.

I hadn't thought about Bell transformers, if you can get one with an adequate amperage rating then yes, it's a good one too.

There will be a few different places you can talk to to find these things, but I know that when I started looking I had some difficulty finding them at first. It's very easy to get from the large electrical supply houses but only if you have an account with them.

Gray
Well, no, technically you don't need an AC to AC transformer. I'm running mine on an old 16v dc laptop power adapter and it's running perfectly.

[Golden_Eagle]

Xe and X will work ok with DC voltage, value NO.

[Ssilencer]

About transformer, I think this is a great bargain

http://www.allelectronics.com/images/gold/large/ACTX-152.jpg

15 VAC 2.4 AMP WALL TRANSFORMER (http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/ACTX-152/790/15_VAC_2.4_AMP_WALL_TRANSFORMER_.html)

[Golden_Eagle]

that one is more than perfect for Xe´s and Xs. Perfect price too

[Sneil]

I'm having some issues getting my Xe to work. Ive wired everything according to the diagrams I've been given, put in an 8amp fuse, and have a 18vac 500mA adapter. I don't know if its the adapter or not, I thought 500mA was a little low and the voltage reading of the adapter is @ 23V. First I figure I'd be able to test to see if the Xe would power up just by using the DC adapter without anything else hooked up, but the lcd never blinked on. So i just figureed it all needed to be completly wired then to work. So I wired it all up to the compressor and PC psu etc nnd tried to power it on and still nothing. I cannot even power up the pc. What am I missing?:confused: I wired everything according to the diagram below and made triple sure I had it right before I powered up anything.

EDIT: btw I just ordered that 15v adapter you recommended Ssilencer and taking this 18v back.

[Carlz0r]

So you have it wired up like the following picture?

[Sneil]

yes exactly:(

I could take some pictures for tomorrow, but that is exactly how i'ts all wired.

[Sneil]

So I guess it should be working fine if everythings completly and correctly wired then correct? If so then is it a problem with the froster itself? This unit was damaged when chilly1 recieved it but he said he repaired it, but maybe there's another problem or something. Guess I'll give him a pm..

EDIT: troubleshooting with ssilencer through msn. thanks:toast:

[StoneRhino]

My froster has been up and running for about 3 weeks. Worked awsome love it. Normally the temp reads around -48 under load. I am running a single stager on r410a. So temps were pretty accurate. Today when I started my unit the temp reading was -22 and it hasn't bugged. Even if I take the prob connector off the board it reads -24. What could be wrong and how do I fix it?

[Golden_Eagle]

StoneRhino is there a chance that the probe got any condensation?

[StoneRhino]

I took the mount off and checked. I really don't think it did.

Will the unit read -24 without the probe even attched to it. Because thats what it is reading.

[Carlz0r]

I took the mount off and checked. I really don't think it did.

Will the unit read -24 without the probe even attched to it. Because thats what it is reading.
Sounds like the probe might be fried. Take the heatshrink off it and check to see if both wires are properly connected.

[StoneRhino]

I will wait for Golden Eagle or Ssilencer to tell me to take apart the probe.

Where can I get new probes why would it go? :(

Is there anything else I can do in the mean time?

[Golden_Eagle]

you can check if there´s is any rust behind the heatshrink, in that case clean it and test again.
Ask chilly1 if he has some spare probe.
The Xe controller will show ~ "-24" if there´s no probe. I´m working on new firmware, It will detect common problems with the probe, like "disconnected" or "shorted wire"

[Ssilencer]

StoneRhino, Golden told me you both fixed the problem already, I will be online again in some hours, I will have internet service room in the maternity :D

[runmc]

Just got this for a friends cooler I'm making. From what I have read in this thread it's a Golden Froster XE.

I don't have the slightest idea how to hook it up. This is what I got.( check attachment) Can I get some help with model, software, and installation.

I tried to catch you on MSN, but I think you were in the delivery room. Congrats bro.:clap:

[kayl]

very nice runmc, look good dont they
So ya will building a little single stage soon:toast:

you can download the install guide here

http://rapidshare.de/files/11247443/G-Froster_Xe_1.2_-_Quick_Instalation_Guide.pdf.html

[runmc]

Yes kayl I'm building a SS for a friend in Viet Nam. I started it today. I have a build thread at the other site. Her's another picture of the controller.

Nice isn't it.:stick:

[Golden_Eagle]

runmc i got your msn contact from silencer, i hope i can find you online tonight

[b1tterman]

nice bro

[Sneil]

I don't see a temp probe with your Xe there runmc..

[boardy]

My unit is finally finished with the Xe in it, just can't wait to get my hands on it now lol. Should have a cascade controller coming at some point aswell thanks to these great guys :)

Cheers
Boardy

[Ssilencer]

I don't see a temp probe with your Xe there runmc..

Me neither :S

Thanks Boardy! the Froster cascade will shine! ;)

[runmc]

I don't see a temp probe with your Xe there runmc..

Thanks for the heads up Sneil:) I was wondering what I was suppose to do for a probe.

Thank you Golden for contacting me about the missing probe:)

What is a good way to mount the LCD to the front panel?

[Ssilencer]

You can use bolts and nuts to put the display, then cover it with a face plate.

These are 2 prototypes of Froster aluminum face plates, I'm waiting for another in black and with different tipography


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/769/gfrosterresinadomedium6hi.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4200/gfrosterfaceplate5tq.jpg

[Silverdoc]

Want One Black One Pls.

[Ssilencer]

I want to see the black face plate too, it will have some changes.
Anyway, I need to choose one of these, what do you like more?
Also, it would be as you see in the pics, 5 1/4 bay size, with 3m double sticky tape, so it can be put over an ugly hole in a drive bay, or in a phase case.

[the_new_guy]

looks really cool.

[Silverdoc]

Thanks Chilly1, Golden Eagle and Ssilencer. for the Froster X and the help with the software.
Need that fase plate mine didnt turn out that well. lol

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/th_000_0386.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/000_0386.jpg)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/th_000_0368.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/000_0368.jpg)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/th_000_0374.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/000_0374.jpg)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/th_000_0372.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/000_0372.jpg)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/th_000_0377.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/silverdoc/000_0377.jpg)

[arisythila]

Hey, I picked up the G-Froster XE 1.2 I gotta say its pretty nice. I thought I picked up the G-Froster X. but I didnt... Whoops. But the XE is pretty nice.

~Mike

[Ssilencer]

Thanks Sgt and Mike, great to see a happy customers :D

[Fhqwhgads6680]

wow Ssilencer, those face plates look nice! would look beautiful in a silver V-2000 :D Whenever I get enough money (one day lol) I'll be picking up one of your controllers!

Brandon J

[Ssilencer]

I hope the definite face plate looks better than these test

[pazza316]

Hey could some one send me a link where I can download the latest Firmware for these.

Thanks

[nlRenderman]

Hey SSilencer, i know you have new faceplates... post some pictures of those! I think they look much better!

Mike

[Ssilencer]

Well, first package arrives to slovenia:

http://phasechange.extremecooling.net/littledevil/golden-frosters/2.jpg

[Ssilencer]

And now the fisrt Value 2.0 installed :D

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4844/75py.jpg

[Ssilencer]

New Value 2.0 soft

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3510/untitled19aw1.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled19aw1.jpg)

[Master_G]

Shouldnt that option under configuration read "shut down at" rather than "start down at"?
Looks good otherwise.

G

[Ssilencer]

Shouldnt that option under configuration read "shut down at" rather than "start down at"?
Looks good otherwise.

G

You are right!
We have to stop drinking while writing :toast:

[wdrzal]

cut them out of something like nylon sheets and use a router with a 22-1/2 degree bevel on the inside and outside. The bevel will give a good look. If youwant to do a little more work make a punch that cuts the whole faceplate at once.

injection molding is a option but it will be to pricy.

ps: we do not recommend you cut the opeaning with a ax.:D

[Ssilencer]

ps: we do not recommend you cut the opeaning with a ax.:D

Why not? I love to cut my nails when drinking with an ax.:woot:

[kayl]

they look very nice ssilencer.
Now i just got to wait till cascade is ready to test a few of these beauties
the software looks nice hey

[Ssilencer]

thanks Kayl, we will be updating the soft, cosmetics and features

[Fhqwhgads6680]

Hey Ssilencer, I am very impress with what you guys are doing with these lately keep up the awesome work. I have a few quick questions tho. First, I know there are several new versions, but what is the cheapest version with the LCD and ability to control 12v fans? Also, I know that Chilly1 is VERY busy lately and I really want to buy one, but I'd rather not trouble him, so is there someone else in the U.S. that I get get one of these from or someone that can ship to the U.S.?

Thanks,
Brandon J

[runmc]

Please direct me to the information I am asking if it is already posted. You can jab me with a stick :stick: if you want to.

I have all the obvious wires hooked up except serial port on mobo (p4c800e-d)

I have provided some great entertainment for you guys if you need to take a break while your helping me. I have been brought back to life. I think I'm 21 again :slobber:

Is there a Doctor in the House (http://muvids.com/play.php?id=30658140) that can mark where the correct serial port header is on the mobo?

1. I don't know what a 15 to 18 vac @ 1amp adaptor is
2. I need to know exactly where the three marked wire connector go.
3. Is the small white wire for the dc fan?
4. Please mark serial port header

[Bergo]

I don't currently own one, but as far as I can tell...
1. the adapter they're refering to is an AC to DC adapter, the froster will accept a voltage between 15 and 16 volts i order for it to run properly, it needs at least 1amp of current to run.
2. had an answer for you on that one, and looked again and got confuzed, wont post until i"m sure, lol
3. Can't say with complete certainty, but yes, it looks to be for a DC fan as it's a 2 conductor wire, although form the picture not sure whats on the other end?
4. The serial port header on your motherboard would be the one jsut above your finger (bottom right hand corner of the bottom most PCI connector) in "mobo plugs.jpg) and it would lead ot "Pc WIRE" as labeled on "wiring.jpg"

[jinu117]

I don't currently own one, but as far as I can tell...
1. the adapter they're refering to is an AC to DC adapter, the froster will accept a voltage between 15 and 16 volts i order for it to run properly, it needs at least 1amp of current to run.
2. had an answer for you on that one, and looked again and got confuzed, wont post until i"m sure, lol
3. Can't say with complete certainty, but yes, it looks to be for a DC fan as it's a 2 conductor wire, although form the picture not sure whats on the other end?
4. The serial port header on your motherboard would be the one jsut above your finger (bottom right hand corner of the bottom most PCI connector) in "mobo plugs.jpg) and it would lead ot "Pc WIRE" as labeled on "wiring.jpg"
1. AC adapter...or transformer. http://www.allelectronics.com/matrix/AC_Wall_Transformers.html 2.4amp is more than enough
2. lemme try to take pic.
3. 2 conductor wire is for ac power line from adapter.
4. huh?

[mike]

Sneil:
1), 2)
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4301/connections6sp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

3) That connector is used to detect whether the pc-psu is runing or not.
Your questions doesn´t bother at all.

I am also just installing a XE 1.2 ATM and I am wondering if the is any way to bypass the PSU wire.

Kinda weird having to either cut into the actual PSU ( and void your warranty ...) to run the common and 110V line to the Froster XE or to make a really ugly looking extra run from the outside of the case back in...argh!

I guess this problem only arrises when you are working inside of a all-in-one unit or am I understanding something incorrect here? I am not to keen on running a 1k PSU and the compressor from a single AC line and think that seperate PC and SS AC lines are better - no?

Any suggestions?

[jinu117]

You could wire relay to one of PSU outlet. And let relay control the direct psu line. An alternative for running 2 lines with safety of mind.

[runmc]

Mike you have a good point about running the PSU and compressor off of the same plug. I'm sure you've had a prommie and remember that's how they did it.

I am wondering how to know which way to turn the serial plug. I know it's marked in the instructions, but I don't understand that.

[Golden_Eagle]

Match the colors.
http://usuarios.arnet.com.ar/hernanmr/p4p8.JPG

Other doubts solved?

[LittleDevil]

runmc turn serial plug (COM) for 180°

tnx

[runmc]

Thank you guys for your help :D
Here's an updated picture of mobo wires. I think we have them right now :confused: Now I have to find a transformer around here, or I'll order the one juni suggested

[Ssilencer]

Thanks a lot to Boardy, now we have manuals and software directly to download here: http://benchmark-uk.co.uk/ (http://benchmark-uk.co.uk/index.php?option=com_docman&Itemid=29)

[runmc]

aahhh - Golden Froster XE - How sweet it is.

If you need one in the USA, PM me or Jinu :D

Thanks for all the help getting this hooked up guys. I got it down now. It's really alot easier than I make it look. ;)

[jinu117]

aahhh - Golden Froster XE - How sweet it is.

If you need one in the USA, PM me or Jinu :D

Thanks for all the help getting this hooked up guys. I got it down now. It's really alot easier than I make it look. ;)

Woot woot woot :)
Wasn't sure if you got it down finally :P It looks to be working great :)

PS) err... I don't resell froster :P I think you meant if you need help right?

[runmc]

Woot woot woot :)
Wasn't sure if you got it down finally :P It looks to be working great :)

PS) err... I don't resell froster :P I think you meant if you need help right?

If you need help with Froster - PM jinu. I have one Froster that I bought from another member that I will sell.

Thanks for the help jinu:)

[Ssilencer]

Updated first post, added Links for installation manuals and software downloads.

Thanks to DaBble! :up:

[Unseen]

[off topic mode on]

Argentina FTW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnOGx7DL-CQ&search=cambiasso

[/off topic mode off]

[Golden_Eagle]

man, that was superb

[jinu117]

man, that was superb

Picturisque for sure. Everything was RIGHT on.

[Ssilencer]

hehehe, a piece of art Unseen :up:

[LittleDevil]

Here is connection of golden-froster...

http://phasechange.extremecooling.net/littledevil/golden-frosters/connection/1.jpg


http://phasechange.extremecooling.net/littledevil/golden-frosters/connection/2.jpg

tnx

[Ssilencer]

thats a really clean job :up:

[lross78550]

sslincer i have been giving you a hard time about your boxes :) but i had no idea the froster in my new jinu system was going to be so nice untill i read this entire thread just now. my jinu system is on a dhl truck somewhere right now and i cant wait. i was kind of expecting a display and a couple of relays had no idea you had cool software with a really nice gui and everything i take back all the jokes i have been making about your boxes, u go on shipping them in what ever you like :) these things are really nice.
Lee

[Ssilencer]

Thanks, you know, what is important is inside :)
And if you was checking my other units, you also can see that the boxes are also nice when they are important For example (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=88071&highlight=year+half)

[lross78550]

Its too bad that in the future your city will be the first one wiped out in the war with the bugs.
Quote from the movie "Starship Troopers"
"Damn bugs wacked us Johnny, Wacked us good"
Keep up the good work
Lee

[kayl]

any updates of the cascade controllers.

[Ssilencer]

any updates of the cascade controllers.

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/9273/dorado9pd.jpg

We are ordering the final profesional pcbs this week, so we hope we can be ready for the Cascade / X3/ XE 2.0 soon after that.

[MeltedDuron]

thats hawt silencer, really really hawt :o

[Ssilencer]

thats hawt silencer, really really hawt :o

I don't know what hawt means :p:

[runmc]

HOT :rolleyes:

[MeltedDuron]

go easy on him ron :D it doesn't mean hot :rolleyes: it means INSANELY STUPIDLY EXCESSIVELY HOT (and then some)

[Ssilencer]

HOT :rolleyes:

I thought so from the begining cowboy! :p:

[lross78550]

ssilencer im still playing with my jinu v2000 with my g-froster xe 1.5 controller (even though i have the worst coldbug in the world) and finally got around to hooking up the connector to the motherboard and loading the software and i have 3 very important letters for you.... USB..... :) i was shocked to find that the controller wants to use the (nonexistant) onboard serial connector. Now i have to cut the end off a external modem cable and use my contuinity tester to match the cable pins to wire color code. then i have to find the pinout for an 9 pin rs-232 connector (cause i dont remember which pins are xmit and which ones are receive) then make a cable that connects to the external serial connector and route it inside the case and connect it to the g-froster. yea yea i know Waaa Waaa! im a big whiney baby :) When the next revision g-froster xe usb 1.0 comes out please let me know. you and cisco are the only ones left using rs-232 :)
Thanks
Lee

[Ssilencer]

ssilencer im still playing with my jinu v2000 with my g-froster xe 1.5 controller (even though i have the worst coldbug in the world) and finally got around to hooking up the connector to the motherboard and loading the software and i have 3 very important letters for you.... USB..... :) i was shocked to find that the controller wants to use the (nonexistant) onboard serial connector. Now i have to cut the end off a external modem cable and use my contuinity tester to match the cable pins to wire color code. then i have to find the pinout for an 9 pin rs-232 connector (cause i dont remember which pins are xmit and which ones are receive) then make a cable that connects to the external serial connector and route it inside the case and connect it to the g-froster. yea yea i know Waaa Waaa! im a big whiney baby :) When the next revision g-froster xe usb 1.0 comes out please let me know. you and cisco are the only ones left using rs-232 :)
Thanks
Lee

Wrong, we, Cisco, and Unseen :D
We first have to release the K type line of controllers, then we will start with USB.
If you had read the froster thread you already saw that the controllers are serial yet, we are not cheating on people saying another thing or hiding that.
Also, we are always online to help people with the controllers.


Cheers.

[lross78550]

sorry, i wasnt trying to say you where misrepresenting your product... on the contrary im very happy with the controller im just whining because its going to take me time to make a nice cable.
Lee

[Ssilencer]

No problem at all, we are trying to do our best, it is just not possible for two guys to release a new line of controllers, keep updating the firms and soft, and also researching on USB at the same time.
Also, the problem with internal headers is that they are all different from different boards makers, so, we are doing an adapter for the internal serial to external serial in the mean time for the people that don't want to just move a pair of cables or don't have an internal header.

[lross78550]

g-cable only $499.99 order now and receive a free length of heat shrink tubing.. :) g-cable is not affiliated with g-froster inc. please allow 8-16 weeks for delivery offer not valid in all states.

[Ssilencer]

g-cable only $499.99 order now and receive a free length of heat shrink tubing.. :) g-cable is not affiliated with g-froster inc. please allow 8-16 weeks for delivery offer not valid in all states.


LOL!

[runmc]

On a side note -

Happy Birthday Golden Eagle :D :bday2: :party: :bday2: :party: :bday2: :party: :bday2: :party:

At 21 you can call me "Dad" if you like - or "Cowboy" or even "Ron".:D

[Golden_Eagle]

heheh, thanks!!
Cowboy sounds good to me.
I should make a big party and invite all you guys home!!!

[Ssilencer]

YEAH!!!!, now you're a man!!!!:rofl: :bday: :wierd:
:clap:

[Carlz0r]

Happy B-Day Golden Eagle! :D

BTW, on the topic of support, Ssilencer and Golden Eagle have the most dedicated support I've ever seen. :)

[jinu117]

Okay... wth do I about froster that used to read temp 5-7c higher than all of sudden decides to read 10-20c higher, than when it hits below 0, start counting from 99c?

[placebo]

Okay... wth do I about froster that used to read temp 5-7c higher than all of sudden decides to read 10-20c higher, than when it hits below 0, start counting from 99c?

That's easy... You need two things - A salt stone and a coin.

You lick the salt stone and flip the coin - then, divide by 5....

:stick:

[pazza316]

Hey Jinu

Thats a simple one change or re-solder the temp probe I had one that did the same and was easily solved with this method.

[jinu117]

just awesome... probe was already thermal paste epoxied...(i've been having some probes coming loose so decided to take the step...) Gotta love this... -_-; Another probe down the drain.

[pazza316]

Yes sure!! Its the same for me also! But I bet the controller is working again yes?

[jinu117]

No it isn't.
In fact another one just bit the dust. Was working just fine and same thing all of sudden again.
Sympton #1. It starts reading temp about 7-10c higher all of sudden when was working fine previously.
Sympton #2. Froster LCD when starting up blinks back light on and off.
After this when you restart, you will have that lovely 99c for -1c read and what not.

[pazza316]

Hey Jinu,

The blinking display means its running on the Basic Firmware not the main firmware. Try reflashing it using the software and I would still change the temp probe. Are you using XE1.2 or 1.5. I have had 1.2 exhibit this problem but 1.5 never.

[FragTek]

What's the status on getting Reggie's controllers fixed?

[Ssilencer]

What's the status on getting Reggie's controllers fixed?

Modules being made, will shipp in a few days

[outcast623]

hey guys i just tried out the new beta firmware that is available for the gfroster XE, if you have an asus board this is a must have!!

i installed the new firmware then went into the BIOS, after overclocking to the point where asus boards do the "hard boot" restart (that would turn off the older firmwares) the new firmware displayes checking for psu power 4sec. 3sec. then goes back to evap temp and fan speed after the board restarts!

awsome work guys! finaly i dont have to use 2 psu's to keep it running through reboot.

if you want the firm just pm ssilencer.

[kayl]

hey guys i just tried out the new beta firmware that is available for the gfroster XE, if you have an asus board this is a must have!!

i installed the new firmware then went into the BIOS, after overclocking to the point where asus boards do the "hard boot" restart (that would turn off the older firmwares) the new firmware displayes checking for psu power 4sec. 3sec. then goes back to evap temp and fan speed after the board restarts!

awsome work guys! finaly i dont have to use 2 psu's to keep it running through reboot.

if you want the firm just pm ssilencer.


Sweet, now I just need to get the internal coms connector correct so I can talk to the pc to upload the software. How did you do you internal connector outcast264?
What version Xe controller do you have and what asus mobo using?

[outcast623]

i am using a gfroster xe 1.2, and a asus p5wd2-e premium, i use the com connection from the froster to this port on the mobo.


http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4318/p5wd2ezk9.jpg

[kayl]

sweet, thats exact same mobo im using, and same controller as well. Have you done the mods to the PCB yet to get the main power connector of and onto another PCB?
also Did you have to change the serial plug connections at all to get it to work? Or did you just plug it in and it worked.
Just I cant seem to get mine to communicate with mobo?

[outcast623]

i dont know what mod you are talking about, could you explain?

for the com connector make sure you have it plugged in the right way, and there also might be a setting in the BIOS? other than that idk.

[kayl]

k, i think mine had the DFI lanparty setup.
ALso there is some times EFI issues, you migh not get that.
same reason why new one i think have seperate boards again.
there is also a ncie PDF as well just email sscilencer if have issues.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5043/powerboardgfrosterdv8.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=powerboardgfrosterdv8.jpg)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/142/modgfrosterxe12yo3.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=modgfrosterxe12yo3.jpg)

[Ssilencer]

Check this kayl Froster dfi pin out and asus (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1469341&postcount=429)

All the froster came with the pin out for the dfi because it was the most widely used, so maybe Outcast modified the pin out or someone for him.

[outcast623]

the pin out that i am using has been used on a dfi mobo and an asus mobo, i will take pictures of it as soon as i get my digital camaara back:(

Jinu may be able to help with this as i got the froster installed by him.

[pazza316]

Hey Guys I have the new software but after flashing to new firmware I cant get the controller to recognise the software. It just says unable to connect. I cant flash back to a different firmware as they cant find the Froster either can you help? All teh connections are in place

[pazza316]

Hey also I have noticed the XE and 1.5 are missing from the start up sequence where it says them on teh display that is.

Please help!!!

[lross78550]

The 2.6 software with its firmware update fixed my g-froster xe 1.5 problem. i was unable to get the software to see or control the controller in windows. When i installed 2.6 and its firmware everything started working perfectly. Thanks G-froster Team!
Its like i always say if you have a problem theres a damn programmer to blame somewhere (im just joking dont flame me) well im kinda joking :)
Thanks again to eveyone involved in the g-froster product
Lee

now if you guys would just make a g-froster coldbug fix kit or a conroe motheboard with a nforce 590sli intel chipset i could build a nice computer that i could overclock and actually use the jinu v2000 SS unit i bought :)
Lee

[Ssilencer]

Well, FINALLY pcbs are here, new black pcbs, you can see the new CAscade/Froser X3/Xe 2.0 in the center, the new XE 1.6 and the modules.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4488/nuevospcbs002ch7.jpg

[runmc]

Well, FINALLY pcbs are here, new black pcbs, you can see the new CAscade/Froser X3/Xe 2.0 in the center, the new XE 1.6 and the modules.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4488/nuevospcbs002ch7.jpg

Ssilencer :) - could you give us a brief update as to what all this means to us the consumer? :fact:

[Ssilencer]

Ssilencer :) - could you give us a brief update as to what all this means to us the consumer? :fact:

Well, this means:

_We have the Csscade/Froster X3/Xe 2.0 pcbs finally, we can start working on them, it's a double sided pcb, a little more advanced design.

_We have a new Version of the froster xe, we always update the models (it costs us money every time we have to order a new model design, is called "prefab costs here") no new features, just making them nicer/better.

_We have more modules to make all the controllers, and some to send to a few guys... ;)

[runmc]

This is all good news. We need controllers and Golden Froster has always been on the cutting edge of R&D.

I hope your new releases are what your looking for. :)

[Duh]

as the chinese proverb recalls: " a picture says more than 1k words". IMO: :shocked:

Congrats dude

[kayl]

sweet, so whats the ETA of delivery, cant wait to get these controllers.
Pick up the cascade cases friday and dieing to try the cascade controller:toast:

[Ssilencer]

As soon as golden finishes the firmware and test it. At least one more week

[Golden_Eagle]

Hi guys, i just wanted to tell you that, i´m still working on firmware.
Final steps before new line of controllers comes alive.

regards.

[Xeon th MG Pony]

It is quality not speed or quantity :) Take as long as you need to make a perfect product that is deserving of your names :)

[kayl]

Hi guys, i just wanted to tell you that, i´m still working on firmware.
Final steps before new line of controllers comes alive.

regards.


have the PCB's been populated yet?
How much longer ya think till software is finished?

[Golden_Eagle]

First cards will be assembled this week, wile the firmware is written.
Last week was all about hard testing of the new bootloader routines, that´s the only part of firmware that cant be replaced from serial port, so it´s really important to make sure it works 100% ok.
During the weekind, After an automated long time testing, i found that on the reflash N° 844 the sistem crashed. I´m not happy with that, so Im improving the error-recovery routines to make it safer.

I´ll be posting more news as the develop progress, some pictures of the pcb´s assembled too.

Last but not least, i want to apologize again for the long delay that we are having whit this new controllers.
It was really hard to source some parts for the cards, that´s why it took so long for coming up with the final desing.
Thing´s are running smoothly now, it´s only programming and final tests left.
I´m been away on msn lately, cause im giving to this task all the atention that it requests; I really need to finish this asap. Try not to be hard with ssilencer, he is as anxious as all of us to see this things ready to ship!!!

Regards

[Golden_Eagle]

Here is a partially assembled pcb.
I was doing some test this morning to the power suply, and communications interface.
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7691/comtesttopgr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Another shot. Leds are in place of the LCD header, just for some testing. They wont be there when the controller is ready.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6656/comtestleftdj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the soft I wrote for testing the firmware updates... You´ll notice some spanglish in the pic. :p:
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/4315/flashsofthy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[pazza316]

Golden I still cant use the latest software with my XE any ideas?

[Golden_Eagle]

Little update, Ive been working on lcd today.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7343/lcdtesttopbx5.jpg


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3333/lcdtestca6.jpg

I know, crappy webcam dosn´t show caracters.

Pazza, have you tried by replacin the serial cable?

[runmc]

I know you are working hard Golden and we can appreciate that.;) I would like to know -

Is this work your doing related to the problems with the XE that some people are having? Will this controller replace the XE?

I hope so because I am anxiously awaiting replacements for the XEs I now have.

Will Golden Froster be setting up RMA for defective controllers?

[pazza316]

Yes I have tried a different cable mate any other ideas?

[Ssilencer]

I know you are working hard Golden and we can appreciate that.;) I would like to know -

Is this work your doing related to the problems with the XE that some people are having? Will this controller replace the XE?

I hope so because I am anxiously awaiting replacements for the XEs I now have.

Will Golden Froster be setting up RMA for defective controllers?

Well, this is best to be explained once and for all.
First, there is no "Golden Froster Inc." Just two guys, golden Eagle and me.
Second, we were investing a lot in the research and fixes for the original Xe, that had some EMI problems, we fixed some of them with different firmware updates, if you read other pages you can find some people that can back up these words.
Also, looks like there is a lot of people that like to install electronic stuff without having minimal knowledge, and that caused some more troubles (no ground connections, etc)

We also replaced some controllers, them being damaged beyond repair (broken PCBs, BENDED microcontrollers, yes, BENDED, awfully installed ones, etc) pazza received 3 new xe 1.6 in replace of irreparables xe 1.2, Chilly1 was advised to send the ones he got broken the first time, due to the shipping company, so we can repair them or change them for new ones.

In europe, Wayne (DaBbLe in XS) got his controller fixed and working 100% ok, but anyway, we sent to him a microcontroller for replacement in case he wanted it to change it, and also he helps us with another guy that got a original xe, and we sent him a module and microcontroller, and a new display to replace without any charge.

Value 1.0, Value 2.0, X controller, none of that controllers has 1 single fail iirc.
Again, WE ARE JUST TWO GUYS, we are not OCZ, nor TEAM GROUP, or any other company, anyway, I think there are more people happy than angry with us, and even some people that like our customer service. For example, we had been online for hours helping one customer over msn at 3am on a sunday.
As I told you by pm, we will repair or replace your two xe 1.2, I just need you to send them here.

[Gray Mole]

Agreed :)

Ssilencer and Golden have been some of the most helpful and attentive guys in the phase parts world. Considering it's just them, not a big company, they've been great!

The new X controller looks good, looking forward to when they're all ready to go.

I likely won't use the cascade controller on the one I'm (slowly) putting together now, but I'm making a quiet cascade next with recip's and would love to put mine onto that one.

Some companies give guarantee's and limited warrantee's but you 2 give something better, with a lot less loopholes. Your word. :toast:

Cheers

Gray

[Ssilencer]

Agreed :)

Ssilencer and Golden have been some of the most helpful and attentive guys in the phase parts world. Considering it's just them, not a big company, they've been great!

The new X controller looks good, looking forward to when they're all ready to go.

I likely won't use the cascade controller on the one I'm (slowly) putting together now, but I'm making a quiet cascade next with recip's and would love to put mine onto that one.

Some companies give guarantee's and limited warrantee's but you 2 give something better, with a lot less loopholes. Your word. :toast:

Cheers

Gray


Thatnks Gray, You know that, you was helping as in some cases.