no......fluorinert...$$$...but?..for immersion

[kurt10]

what liquid for immersion?

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/9492/pour43rd.jpg

sorry italian :(

[enzoR]

you can use mineral oil aswell but that leaves a mess.

[Raller]

:eek: :eek: ¨


ehhmm ..are you pouring that water into that case ?

[JacobHansen]

Nope, he is pouring a non-conductive fluid into the "case". Or should i say, i hope for his hardware that its a non-conductive fluid :D

[enzoR]

lol thats "water" is 500$ per gallon flourinert!

[twilius_basic]

lol thats "water" is 500$ per gallon flourinert!

HOLY CRAP.


Y'all said "expensive", but I had no idea it was in that price range :slobber:

[enzoR]

heh it can get even worse depending on the "type" of flourinert. you can get it slightly cheaper but it turns gelly at something like -50. if you want it liquid at -120 and more you have to buy even more expensive stuff.

[kurt10]

the flourinert evaporates :mad:

[enzoR]

cant you seal it up or something so that it wont evaporate?

[eshbach]

cant you seal it up or something so that it wont evaporate?

umm, ever put dry ice in a sealed coke bottle?

[twilius_basic]

umm, ever put dry ice in a sealed coke bottle?

KABOOM :D

[JSU]

doesnt it evaporate at 90+ degrees?

[bam~bam]

umm, ever put dry ice in a sealed coke bottle?

your hand is off :)

[JacobHansen]

Nope, the bottle just blows up.. It is alot of fun to play with DI in a Sealed invoirment !
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17761

[charlie]

transformer oil :D

[echow87]

what about non conductive fluid xp that are for watercooling systems?

[Tomahawk]

Hey folks, dont you know any type of liquid that we can use for imersion and that is cheap?? 500 dollars are almost 1500$ when you turn it to Brazil money. I really dont care if itt will be -70°C, -50°C or even -30°C. Something easy to get like vegetal oil or some alcool will be very interesting because i am not the richest man of the world. :P So, can you help me?
Fire me a PM or go ICQ: 251357231
Thanks for all! o/
PS: If someone knows how to speak portuguese would be better to explain me. I am not very good on english.

[chefnr1]

Hey folks, dont you know any type of liquid that we can use for imersion and that is cheap?? 500 dollars are almost 1500$ when you turn it to Brazil money. I really dont care if itt will be -70°C, -50°C or even -30°C. Something easy to get like vegetal oil or some alcool will be very interesting because i am not the richest man of the world. :P So, can you help me?
Fire me a PM or go ICQ: 251357231
Thanks for all! o/
PS: If someone knows how to speak portuguese would be better to explain me. I am not very good on english.
u can use ethylen based glycol mixed 30% with whater 70% thats will take -40c ore u can by propylenalcohol but i don know if you have that stuff in in Brazil!and silicon oil or hydralic oil and braking oil but i dont know what happens to the tubes maybe they don't can take in and melt :confused:

[bh2k]

Nope, the bottle just blows up.. It is alot of fun to play with DI in a Sealed invoirment !


Agreed there, DI bombs are the most fun I've had in a while.

[JSU]

Is methenol too corrosive? If so dangerden has some new stuff that will do -40 http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=143&cat=0&page=1

[chefnr1]

no methanol is like ethanol in corrosive thing, but dont drink methanol;)
it could bee on some plastic but i dont know wich one of the plastic it is try some hoses that can do oil and petrol withut melting them they sure can do methanol..

[Juspriss]

Nice! :slobber:
Any result yet? :confused:

Regards :toast:

[kurt10]

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=802563&page=1&pp=20&highlight=Submerged



Midel 7131


or

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=851060

Luminol

[Butcher_]

u can use ethylen based glycol mixed 30% with whater 70% thats will take -40c ore u can by propylenalcohol but i don know if you have that stuff in in Brazil!and silicon oil or hydralic oil and braking oil but i dont know what happens to the tubes maybe they don't can take in and melt :confused:
Ethylene glycol with water is conductive = goodbye PC.
Methanol is possible, but it evaporates a lot and is toxic (by inhalation and skin absorbtion as well as drinking it) and highly flammable. I wouldn't risk it.

[chefnr1]

Ethylene glycol with water is conductive = goodbye PC.
Methanol is possible, but it evaporates a lot and is toxic (by inhalation and skin absorbtion as well as drinking it) and highly flammable. I wouldn't risk it.
i wrote that because i thoght he might be using a chiller! i did'nt know he wanna dip the whole rig in it :cool:

[Butcher_]

transformer oil :D
Just make sure it doesn't have PCBs in it. ;)

[Onycho]

u can use ethylen based glycol mixed 30% with whater 70% thats will take -40c ore u can by propylenalcohol but i don know if you have that stuff in in Brazil!and silicon oil or hydralic oil and braking oil but i dont know what happens to the tubes maybe they don't can take in and melt :confused: Yeek! Careful the fluids you tell him to use from cars. Not sure of hydraulic oil, but braking oil/fluid is VERY corrosive. If you don't think so, pour some on your car's paint job and walk off (if you don't care about your car looking like garbage). Or alternately, look inside an old car that's had a brake fluid leak....if you look around the rez (from spills during adding) you'll see the paint job is trashed and the metal is corroded.

All in all, I think he'd be screwed.

Fluorinert can be found at local suppliers if you contact Dupont themselves...chilly1 told me there's a supplier in my area that sells FG-77 (rated to -110C) for $65 a gallon with a minimum purchase of 5 gallon pails.

[chefnr1]

Yeek! Careful the fluids you tell him to use from cars. Not sure of hydraulic oil, but braking oil/fluid is VERY corrosive. If you don't think so, pour some on your car's paint job and walk off (if you don't care about your car looking like garbage). Or alternately, look inside an old car that's had a brake fluid leak....if you look around the rez (from spills during adding) you'll see the paint job is trashed and the metal is corroded.

All in all, I think he'd be screwed.

Fluorinert can be found at local suppliers if you contact Dupont themselves...chilly1 told me there's a supplier in my area that sells FG-77 (rated to -110C) for $65 a gallon with a minimum purchase of 5 gallon pails.
:eek: ooops sorry but like i said before i thoght that he should use a chiller and in there u can use ethyl glycol and propylenalcohol the other fluids i dont know how they react in a chiller i've just tested with the glycol and propalcohol..

[Onycho]

:eek: ooops sorry but like i said before i thoght that he should use a chiller and in there u can use ethyl glycol and propylenalcohol the other fluids i dont know how they react in a chiller i've just tested with the glycol and propalcohol..

I saw that previous post...this was more as a warning as well to not try it in tubing either, unless you use the flex-metal tubing like used for brake lines, I wouldn't recommend a lot of fluids that are used in vehicles as they all tend to be VERY corrosive.

[[XC] moddolicous]

what about alcohol? Will that work?

[Onycho]

You really need an inert chemical to do an immersion. There's no easy way out of it. Alcohol if there is ANY contamination at all will act as a conductor. Chemically it is very similiar to water, in that respect.

[dippyskoodlez]

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=802563&page=1&pp=20&highlight=Submerged



Midel 7131


That midel looks like some nice stuff...

I looked on the site for it, but I cant find anything about its freezing point... just flash point..

I was thinking, instead of a TEC cooler, like that guy at [h] did, maybe use it kinda like a water chiller resevoir? with the freezing evap thing in the tank with it, freezing it? would give some great temps for every component in the computer.. lol!!
:slobber:

Edit: found price of that stuff... nope.. not happening, but looked at that luminol-- its looking pretty good.. pour point is -55C..