Jap. Super Pi Is It really faster by 1s than english?

[choseone214]

http://www16.big.or.jp/~bunnywk/cgi-bin/superpi.cgi

Alot of these 24s times on the page just don't add up to benchers say around here. They have guys with 14x238=3340mhz hitting 24s easy. Every bencher with the english version of super pi needs 3400mhz+ to hit the same 24s..

Is there super pi tricks or tweaks beside win2003 sever?

thanks

[charlie]

sure, they use LOTS of tweaks, the "104mB" tweak, et al.....

C

[D_o_S]

Here are some tweaks:

(Note: these are not my tweaks (I did not write them), they are off another forum)

note: these tips are for superpi only. some may work well for other benchmarks but may hurt your scores in other benchmarks. pedro rocha's tweak is an excellent exampe for this. it will boost your 3dmark2001 score by quite a bit but it will have a negative effect on your pifast score.

use windows 2003 server (sp2 or sp4 , that I don't know yet)

run --> msconfig --> diagnostic boot mode

This will shut down lot's of services and give you a nice boost

Remember to run superpi.exe in Real time mode (from task manager) and turn off explorer.exe and userinit.exe during the run. You can run explorer.exe after the run from task manager. (typically C:\windows\explorer.exe I think)

running superpi in realtime doesn't give me a noticeable gain on Axp or P4.

Some people experienced worse scores from killing explorer.exe and minimizing superpi.

set page file to 0. this didn't help me mutch but I didn't' time it with that process timer proggy so it might help a few milli seconds.

I use blackviper's registry patch instead of diagnostic mode... disables a lot of services mostly and adds some other tweaks like the no page file tweak...

if you use page file, delete, defrag and set again.

clean install is best offcourse and defrag right away after installtion aswell best to use a 3rd party defrag tool. most will do a much better job at it then the windows defragger.

apparently, a lot of the japanese (asians in general I suppose) benchmarkers use a ramdisk program but I haven't found out wich one and when I ask around, nobody can (will) tell me wich program to use.

also, some use ram optimization tools. maxmem is often used. I haven't tried it myself though, it may or may not do the same as the boot.ini maxmem tweak.

so the boot.ini maxmem tweak (doesn't always help and slows your system down): look at in the advanced options of boot.ini, there is "MAXMEM"

in the boot.ini after /fastdetect add /maxmem=104 (or 105)

for example : multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Server 2003" /fastdetect /maxmem=104

if the option isn't available through msconfig then the boot.ini will do the trick.

link : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...tid=21045&stc=1

for the cpu, high mhz is more important then high fsb in dispite of the fact that high fsb is faster in most applications.

for the memory, tight timings are more important then high bandwith, offcourse there are limits to this and you'll have to find a good compromis.

apparently, sometimes deleting all the files in the superpi folder except the .exe and .txt files can rid you of the "not exact in round" error message.

Reports on the pedro rocha's multiprocessor tweak are two fold, good and bad : device manager > pc > computer > acpi uniprocessor pc > update driver > acpi multiprocessor pc

carefull though, this tweak causes higher loads on the psu (12V line, others I don't know), higher cpu heatoutput, cpu and/or gpu instability.

link : http://www.xtremeresources.com/foru...achmentid=12637

Go to: Control Panel ---> System ---> Advanced ---> Performace Options ---> Advanced

set Processor Schedulling to Programs and Memory Usage to System Cache



most of these tweaks will give you little boosts but imho, will not gain you a full seccond. then again, sometimes, all you need is that extra millisecond faster

[MaxxxRacer]

DOS, ive never seen such a thorough post on super pi tweaking. one question though. After spending an entire day tweaking how much does this gain you. and its not like you can use this system..

I take it you have a canned install thats already setup for this so you just run the automated win2k3 setup and u get ur tweaked system? If not it would be something to consider. there are serveral progs that can create such windows installs.

[D_o_S]

Just by exiting the explorer shell (in system processes), I lowered my time by 1s (from 46 to 45sec). I'll give the other tweaks a try...

[Kunaak]

with a clean install of your OS...

Don't install your videocard drivers.
just do you super pi benchmarks then.

[choseone214]

Would going to a pci gpu make a difference if you run an agp card but don't install gart or drivers for that and just run in vga mode?

Also whats up wiht 8m super pi in win2003 Its superslow?

seems:
winxp+spk1 for 8m
win2003 for 1m and 32m

[misteroadster]

Patched SSE2 , add 1 sec for the normal time.
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/24sec3220.JPG

[Jessfm]

whats this SSE2 patch and where is it ?

[choseone214]

Yeah 24s really needs 3400mhz+ unpatched unless you know and do every single tweak in the books. 23s needs about 3560mhz and 3720mhz for 22s round about.
http://img66.exs.cx/img66/8983/241hc.jpg

[reject]

so youre implying te jap chaps use the patch? thats bad...
what sites do the japanese go to? i only know of 1 and he is memesama, i assume theres a whole scene with lots of forums?

[choseone214]

LOL, no I was clearly asking if the jap. version of superpi is faster as I read where Macci said it was I beleive ;) I mean in superpi at high levels some small settings are not going to make up 1 sec when 1 sec takes 130-160mhz raw cpu speed. If so thats why I also posted to get these tweaks that makeup a world of difference. :)

[D_o_S]

See this: http://forum.tweak.pl/about98224-0-asc-60.html

Look at yotomeczek screenie: 18sec!!!!

[Trixxy]

See this: http://forum.tweak.pl/about98224-0-asc-60.html

Look at yotomeczek screenie: 18sec!!!!

it's 1m 18s, he ran the 2M one. :)


I've just put on a fresh install of 2k3, so gonna try a load of these tweaks and see if I can get under 30secs, cheers! :toast:

[sl1m shady]

See this: http://forum.tweak.pl/about98224-0-asc-60.html

Look at yotomeczek screenie: 18sec!!!!
Hey thats 1m 18s @Spi 2M :p

[misteroadster]

Yeah 24s really needs 3400mhz+ unpatched unless you know and do every single tweak in the books. 23s needs about 3560mhz and 3720mhz for 22s round about.
http://img66.exs.cx/img66/8983/241hc.jpg
I'm sure i can have 24sec with 3320-3330 without patch :stick: but i need cold. :(
Yours settings are not perfect.
3450 for 24sec is very bad for me.

[choseone214]

Yours settings are not perfect.


Explain please if not plublic through PM would be grateful ;) thanks.

[Tom Holck]

I'll ad one thing, to the huge M32 the 64 bit OS is the fastest.
The CPU gets hotter, but if you can cool it, it will be the fastest.

For M32:

1 AMD win64
2 XP64
3 win2003 32 bit sp4
4 win xp
5 win 2000

:toast:

http://holicho.lib.net/pi3355/pi3355.htm

http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/838RANK-NEW.htm

http://www16.big.or.jp/~bunnywk/cgi-bin/superpi.cgi

for me, no special os tweaks, just clean install, real time and Mzh :D

[bias_hjorth]

Toms you should really try all the tweaks around - Imagine gaining a second without doing much except moving your mouse.

[kristos]

I'll ad one thing, to the huge M32 the 64 bit OS is the fastest.
The CPU gets hotter, but if you can cool it, it will be the fastest.

For M32:

1 AMD win64
2 XP64
3 win2003 32 bit sp4
4 win xp
5 win 2000

:toast:

http://holicho.lib.net/pi3355/pi3355.htm

http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/838RANK-NEW.htm

http://www16.big.or.jp/~bunnywk/cgi-bin/superpi.cgi

for me, no special os tweaks, just clean install, real time and Mzh :D
AMD win64 is a different OS then XP64 :confused:

Isn't there also a 64 bit win2k3 server? I'm not sure but I thought I saw it at the windows trial download page..

got any tips for 8M and 1M OS wise? :)