G.Skill 296fsb 1:1

[Type M]

Hey guys,
I recently purchased the GSkill 512MB dual channel LE kit from the Egg and have just received it an hour ago. From previous experience with my processor, I was running at 296 X 8 stable with the RAM running around DDR400 speed. I just put in the GSKILL kit, set it 1:1 and here are my results. I will stress test in a few minutes to see if it is 100% stable but it did pass my 3 game test of Halo!!! ;) Note I have not adjusted the RAM timings so they are set at 2.5-4-4-8.

http://img50.exs.cx/img50/2450/gskill2965wc.jpg

[DevilsRejection]

why is my sandra score 2x yours?

EDIT: I see your running single channel. Nice OC tho, I have to feed my processor 1.7V just to get it to post.

[corrupt]

Your bandwidth is very very low for those speeds, I get around 4320mb/s at 277x10 and around 4700mb/s with 290x9.

So you have some tweaking to do for sure. Running 4,4, timings is worthless as far as I'm concerned, you will get better performance with 3,3 timings at a lower fsb than with 4,4, at a high fsb.

[MrQ3W]

That bandwidth is horrible, I get better at 225MHz. :D

[Type M]

Hey guys,
I have found the problem... I was giving you guys the UNCACHED scores... I checked the settings in Sandra and sure enough...it wasnt cached. Here is my latest posting with 296 and 2.5-3-3-7. Also, why is everyone saying that you need 1GB for games? I am not trying to start a problem, but I have not found a difference in UT2004 and Halo between my old 1GB kit and my new 512 kit. It has become faster with the 512 kit and the ludacris speed. ;) Is it more of a DOOM 3 and newer games issue?

-Mack

http://img109.exs.cx/img109/7263/296fsb253374jf.jpg

[Zeus]

Is 296 the max for your Gskill?
I see lots of 256mb modules doing over 300 easy.

[choseone214]

you dont need 1gig of ram you only need enough ram to cache the game files and OS otherwise you go to HDD to cache files and thats where you get slow downs alot of time.

[Type M]

Is 296 the max for your Gskill?
I see lots of 256mb modules doing over 300 easy.

I think it is a combination of my processor and my own willingness to add voltage. I have not been willing to go over 1.7V to gain maximum OC. I also have not been able to break the 2.4Ghz (ie: 240x10, 267x9, 296x8) barrier. I am happy for this OC as I paid $145 for the processor brand new at Monarch Computer. I have not adjusted my processor YET, I popped in the GSkill sticks with the processor at the same speed as I had my older XMS sticks. Since I went from 1GB of RAM with the XMS, I should be able to run higher with 512MB.

-Mack

[Geforce4ti4200]

ras-cas4 is useless, try ras-cas3, even at lower fsb itll still be much faster. If you want a gig of ram, you need s939 as s754 doesnt play well with this much ram, sometimes not even 200fsb. newer games do run better with a gig, faster loading times, less times where the hdd churns mid game

[bldegle2]

postings, wait till you get your Patriot stuffs and get some actual experience, and as far as 754 doesn't play well with 1 gig or ram, YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE!, and as far as i am concerned, you should apologise. you never even read his timings properly with the second post.

you are so full of it, criminey sakes, back off on the crud, okay? sig speaks for itself.

YOU NEED TO STOP POSTING THIS STUFF!

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"If you want a gig of ram, you need s939 as s754 doesnt play well with this much ram, sometimes not even 200fsb"

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do you post just to post, is this a sickness, or what?

jeesh.

Type M

anyway, nice clockage, i am a bit jealous as your sticks are beating mine by a few clicks and with the ram timings, enjoy the speed.

baldy:D

[Kanavit]

I want that ram. I need Gskill ram. 296mhz @ 2.5-4-4-8 is absolutely sick! nice job man. believe it or not, but i've seen people do 280mhz @ 2-2-2-5, 1T with Gskill tccd ram. but with OCZ booster though.

[Geforce4ti4200]

it is a well known fact that the *majority* of s754 mobos do not clock high with a gig of ram, especially at T1. you got real lucky. I have never seen tccd ram do over 230fsb 2-2-2-5 at below 3v and almost no tccd does better with increased volts

[IvanAndreevich]

>>i've seen people do 280mhz @ 2-2-2-5, 1T with Gskill tccd ram
I'm sure you have a link then?

[bldegle2]

"it is a well known fact that the *majority* of s754 mobos do not clock high with a gig of ram, especially at T1"

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majority, please, and provide linkage. i travel much the same sites as you, plus i am over @ DFI Street a lot. in all my readings i am finding many happy TCCD users on the DFI 754 platform running real high FSB/HTT, and i challenge your statement. as with any clockage scenarios, there are also the dogs that don't do it well, no matter who manu'd the hardware.

as far as running T1 and lofty HTT speeds, once again it appears to be a matter of luck on ANY BOARD, with 939 looking better and better for the FX55's, but not all of us can afford to buy one of those.......................

tread lightly on this path until you have really given it a go, like said many times by me and others, you haven't any experience nor have you had decent enough ram to make valid and believeable comments in this arena.

baldy :D

[Type M]

I had to back down to 286 to make it Memtest stable (20+ passes of test #5). I am not Prime stable at any speed yet. I really do not understand it. I have tried all voltages from 2.5 to 3.1 in the bios (most stable at 2.9) I used the following settings recommended by Oskar and changed the Tcl-Trcd-Trp-Tras settings to 2.5-3-3-7.

LP UT 250GB with 512MB TCCD 1T DDR 600 BIOS Setup Example (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43534)

Any thoughts or suggestions?

-Mack

[gclg2000]

i challenge your statement
:CTF: :slash: :grr: :cord:

lmao

[Jessfm]

Pistols at dawn then :p

[Jessfm]

I cant see your pics Dumo ?

[Dumo]

edit: gskill le

[Revv23]

wow

[ocmyface]

AAAAAH! CoreCenter!

:shields eyes:

nice clock, maybe i should give TCCD a try... im scared to use my booster anymore :stick:

[Dumo]

Gskill LE with Zippy700W help

[Zanr Zij]

Gskill LE with Zippy700W help


Which BIOS did u use to set multi available 11.5 on Core Center

[Dumo]

Which BIOS did u use to set multi available 11.5 on Core Center1.41 mod

[dwwalker14335]

Nice memory bandwidth. Do you use the OCZ Booster at all??

Hmm, I was delaying the FX-55 purchase until after the two PCI-E Ultra cards. Maybe I will change the order of the pruchases. ;)

AKA HeavyH20

[Zanr Zij]

@Dumo : Thanks and will try.. :)

@dww... I think he doesn't use Booster because of timing 2.5-3-3-x...

[Dumo]

Nice memory bandwidth. Do you use the OCZ Booster at all??

Hmm, I was delaying the FX-55 purchase until after the two PCI-E Ultra cards. Maybe I will change the order of the pruchases. ;)

AKA HeavyH20No booster...Upto 295 with 2.65V.....I set it at 2.7V for that run.

[Geforce4ti4200]

>>i've seen people do 280mhz @ 2-2-2-5, 1T with Gskill tccd ram
I'm sure you have a link then?


not one person has gotten this, nevermind people. Even macci "only" got 273 with his 256mb bh5 3dmark stable, 280 I think in bandwith test. tccd arent gonna do close to this, 250 maybe at most.

"in all my readings i am finding many happy TCCD users on the DFI 754 platform running real high FSB/HTT, and i challenge your statement."

then maybe its a mobo thing as well as ondie controller because if you ask around, few people can get a good oc with 2x512mb on s754. take out one stick and bam they can hit much further with each seperately


"I am not Prime stable at any speed yet. I really do not understand it."

uninstall p95 and save your headaches. loop 3dmark 2001 to test stability.


"Any thoughts or suggestions?"

yes, if your complaining that you can only get 286 max stable with your ondie controller then I will trade cpus, mine isnt stable at even 215(havent tested with tccd yet) Its known that winchesters ondie controllers are weak, your 286 is among the highest ive seen and your not happy? :stick: id be soooooo thankful to own a winchester like yours, may even buy yours if mine doesnt at least get close :slobber:

[Zanr Zij]

ryanpgroovy can do 275 2-2-2-10 on TCCD with 3.4v :slobber:

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19659

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19660

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19661



Everyone keeps Pming me asking about when the "voltmaster " product will be to market ect , So I am going to lay down all the information I know , including what I have recently found out

The product is supposed to be called "voltage extreme"

It will be released as a PC-3200 part the proposed specs look like this , but they may change

PC-3200
2-2-2 @ 3.3 volts 2.5-x-x @ 2.6 volts

We are building the first production run now , which puts the release right around the corner. I would guess it will ship to reatailers early next week , probably we will see a press release in the next 10 days , so either monday upcoming , or the monday after thanksgiving


I have included a picture of the chips , and some benches .


notes about the performance:

At under 2.9 volts this product is not that hot , it only gets good above 3 volts

Its optimized for A64 , so 250 at 2-2-2 should be a easy hit on A64 with enough voltage , we have hit as high at 277 in single channel and 265 in DC , but not all will do that

The sweet spot seems to be 3.4-3.6 above that we see diminishing returns

On the 875 chipset the results are not as good I have seen 220-230 at 2-2-2

Relaxed timings down to 2-2-3 show a bit of a speed increase , but nothing significant.




A note about price , we are pricing it lower that our TCCD based product

origin thread... http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46152

[IvanAndreevich]

Zanr Zij
Dude.. that's VX. Are you :banana4: ?

[Type M]

"I am not Prime stable at any speed yet. I really do not understand it."

uninstall p95 and save your headaches. loop 3dmark 2001 to test stability.


"Any thoughts or suggestions?"

yes, if your complaining that you can only get 286 max stable with your ondie controller then I will trade cpus, mine isnt stable at even 215(havent tested with tccd yet) Its known that winchesters ondie controllers are weak, your 286 is among the highest ive seen and your not happy? :stick: id be soooooo thankful to own a winchester like yours, may even buy yours if mine doesnt at least get close :slobber:

You need to learn to read the posts closer before you yourself post as this is the 2nd time you have talked smack and have been WRONG... I do not have a Winchester... I have a NEWCASTLE!!! :rolleyes:

As an update, I can run 2-2-2-5 at 215 until I start to get errors. So far I am not TOO impressed with this RAM. It may be my memory controller not being able to handle 1:1. Is it feasable that my controller can handle 296 with the RAM at DDR400 and not a 1:1 ratio? I was perfectly stable at 296 with my old Corsair XMS sticks at DDR400.

-Mack

[Zanr Zij]

Zanr Zij
Dude.. that's VX. Are you :banana4: ?


Oh sorry :D


This ? 3.5v ? by Ubermann

http://ruff.se/files/etc/pub/upload/2-3-3m.gif

[bldegle2]

"take out one stick and bam they can hit much further with each seperately"

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this is again very common knowledge, high or low HTT with two sticks not withstanding, you always get more with a single stick, 939 or 754.

how about some linkage to this rash of problems with the 754 boards, since according to you it is in the majority, need to see that.

if you can prove the MAJORITY don't clock well with TCCD stuffs, i will publicly apologise to you.

baldy :D