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kakaroto
12-31-2004, 09:52 AM
GSKILL is doing great business lately with hard-core memory solutions. First the PC4400 1GB/512MB modules based on the famous Samsung TCCD chips and now the PC4800 series.

The PC4800 is build with the new revision Samsung TCCD 440 cycle chips. These chips yield better speeds to achieve the PC4800 (DDR600) in Dual and single channel mode.
Soon the 1GB PC4800 modules will also be released by GSKILL.

The NEW Samsung TCCD 440
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22284&stc=1

The "possible" improvements:

- More flexibility with higher voltages. (range 2.5 ~ 3.0v)
- Better yields, lower voltage at rated speeds, means higher overclock capability
- Works better with CAS2.0

Enough intro, let's show the pics 8) :

The package:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22285&stc=1

Test system

- Athlon 64 3400+ Newcastle (week 34)
- DFI Lanparty UT 250GB rev1.0
- 2x 256MB Gskill PC4800 LA

Unfortunatly I still do not own a Dual channel S939 platform. At the beginning of next year the MSI Nforce4 board will arrive at my doorstep, so I have to it with the DFI for now.
Like most of the people already know, testing TWO dimms on DFI with S754 memcontroller is a shot in the neck.
I could not get 2 dimms working, even at default rating speeds/settings. I don't know why, cause I got it work on my 2x 512MB GSKILL modules.

Anyway, one dimm is the only way to test these modules.

The Benchmarks

First I tested both modules seperatly to look what those babies can do.

Module 1 (marked with a one):

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22286&stc=1

Module 2:

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22287&stc=1

DDR600 2.5-3-3-6 1T 2.6V (module 1)

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4800/Memtest_DDR600.jpg

Piece of cake for this ram, who needs 2.5-4-4-8 :*)

DDR640 2.5-3-3-6 1T 2.9v (module 1)

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4800/Memtest_DDR640_module1.jpg

No sweat, now you see the improvements of Samsung 440, it's reacting well with higher voltages.

DDR660 2.5-3-3-6 1T 3.0v (module 1)

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22289&stc=1

Again, 3.0v works on the TCCD!

This is even stable in memtest86++ _/-\o_

DDR640 2.5-3-3-6 1T 3.0v (module 2)

The other module (2) performed a little bit lower than module 1, logic it would be very lucky to get two modules perform the same.

Unfortunatly this module does not respond well with 2.5-3-3-6 1T @DDR640. At DDR600 ~ 620 it barely run well with these timings.

With 2.5-4-3-6 1T 2.9v it run fine, Trcd 4 instead of 3 is about 20~25MHz loss.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4800/Memtest_DDR640_module2.jpg

Conclusion

This ram is definitly tha bomb! :7 Can do very high speeds, even higher when losing some timings.
It can also run on 2-2-2-5 timings with lower speeds (200-240MHz*)

*Upcoming test.

Pros

- Very very cheap, around $130-150
- Contains new revision Samsung TCCD
- Clocks like hell

Cons

- Still does not work well with two dimms on S754 platform.

Super strokey
12-31-2004, 10:00 AM
impressive mem there

Cyrus The Virus
12-31-2004, 10:10 AM
Any Idea when it is released ?? Like in the netherlands ?

Mrki
12-31-2004, 10:15 AM
nice results but 1x256 or 2x256 are not longer interesting i think ...

drunkenmaster
12-31-2004, 10:15 AM
the euro stores in norway i think, and germany maybe the other one, have it listed for 2-3rd weeks of jan for stocks. 256 sticks though, i think, my euro language skills apart from english aren't the greatest.

kakaroto
12-31-2004, 10:20 AM
Have you tried DQS Skew of +64 and +128 with 2 sticks? Or anything else?

Also tryed any different drive strengths?

Can make ALOT of difference. :)

I tryed everything with the Skew, nogo. It is the memory controller or the board that is holding me back.


nice results but 1x256 or 2x256 are not longer interesting i think ...

And why isn't it interesting? 2x256 is still the best solution with benchmarking, you should know.

Testing one module give a idea how your ram performs. And this the 512LA kit.

Mrki
12-31-2004, 10:29 AM
For take WR or only benches 2x256 are sure better!

But for the games today you need 2x512 ...

xgman
12-31-2004, 12:40 PM
nice results but 1x256 or 2x256 are not longer interesting i think ...

agreed, useless except for benching.

xgman
12-31-2004, 12:41 PM
When available in USA? 2x512?

wicktron
12-31-2004, 12:49 PM
I'd love to see some 2x512 OC'ing action on S939.

Zeus
12-31-2004, 01:36 PM
Great stuff m8!
Where'd you get that from?

confuzzedintel
12-31-2004, 01:40 PM
i would like to know where i can buy thoes in the usa?

Onepagebook
12-31-2004, 01:40 PM
I am waiting here for your 939 rig and beat my 2.8v DDR650 2.5-4-3-5 "dual channel" ;)

Nice, very nice result.

wicktron
12-31-2004, 01:43 PM
I am waiting here for your 939 rig and beat my 2.8v DDR650 2.5-4-3-5 "dual channel" ;)

Nice, very nice result.

OPB, you get that result on the NF4 MSI K8N Neo4?

Onepagebook
12-31-2004, 01:46 PM
OPB, you get that result on the NF4 MSI K8N Neo4?


I am mad now.. :D :slapass:
here you go :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49243

Reflex1
12-31-2004, 02:03 PM
you can get the 2x512mb version here in the Netherlands on the 3rd week of 05.

althes
12-31-2004, 02:31 PM
they look very nice

wicktron
12-31-2004, 02:51 PM
you can get the 2x512mb version here in the Netherlands on the 3rd week of 05.

Anybody know when the "LA" will be in the USA?

Ref
12-31-2004, 03:42 PM
How high can you gen with 3-4-4-8 1T ? and 2T ? :D Awsome memory :slobber:

quicksilverXP
12-31-2004, 03:45 PM
I agree.. I need 2x512MB.... even at 330 MHz dual channel... it will still struggle in Far Cry.

Geforce4ti4200
12-31-2004, 04:54 PM
Not supprising why they clocked so high, its 256mb single channel and he got reeeeeeeeeal lucky with one stick and his ondie controller. Id like to see two 512mb sticks run over 275fsb T1 in s939. ondie controllers almost always limit ya before the ram too. This is good stuff still, maybe with a venice or fx55/57 we could see 275 to 300fsb dual channel T1 command at 2.5-3-3-7

MrQ3W
12-31-2004, 05:07 PM
Every other post you do Geforce4ti4200 you complain about the A64 memory controllers, perhaps you should get a Dothan? :stick: :D ;)

Bennah
12-31-2004, 05:17 PM
Nice eye candy, but im not that impressed really.

BH-5 is still king for me. Top 4 on 01 orb use Mushy 3500 BH-5... Just the stuff Ive got. Not as good as 260+ 2-2-2-5 but it can still do the bussiness.

BH-5 for me till I get my hands on some OCZ VX and try that for my self ;)

Onepagebook
12-31-2004, 08:14 PM
Nice eye candy, but im not that impressed really.

BH-5 is still king for me. Top 4 on 01 orb use Mushy 3500 BH-5... Just the stuff Ive got. Not as good as 260+ 2-2-2-5 but it can still do the bussiness.

BH-5 for me till I get my hands on some OCZ VX and try that for my self ;)


Wait for your VX :D

http://www.devilsword.com/ms7125/neo4bh5ddr575.jpg

windwithme
12-31-2004, 08:28 PM
My LA only test in neo4 :p:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48626

kakaroto
01-01-2005, 07:11 AM
I am waiting here for your 939 rig and beat my 2.8v DDR650 2.5-4-3-5 "dual channel" ;)

Nice, very nice result.

yeah, gonna order my stuff in the next week.

ps: already read my PM?

Bennah
01-01-2005, 03:24 PM
What is that mem OPB?

confuzzedintel
01-02-2005, 02:48 AM
so there is no where to buy this stuff in the usa?

kakaroto
01-02-2005, 03:25 AM
so there is no where to buy this stuff in the usa?

You can, www.digi4me.com and excaliber

abstrakt
01-02-2005, 03:35 AM
digi4me only have 1x256 and excaliber only have LE, LC and LD.

agor
01-03-2005, 05:15 AM
http://oc-wear.de/pd-1609275420.htm?categoryId=24

is this that ram just in 2*512 ?

kakaroto
01-03-2005, 05:17 AM
http://oc-wear.de/pd-1609275420.htm?categoryId=24

is this that ram just in 2*512 ?

yeah, they will be soon avaiable.

agor
01-03-2005, 05:51 AM
ok i'll order my package now ._.

tjj
01-04-2005, 09:56 AM
Am i the only one, who noticed the 2.5-4-4-8 timings on karakoto's package?! While OCWEAR sells G.SKILL PC4800/3200 F1-3200DSU2-1GBLA 1024MB kit

PC4800 / 3-4-4-8 (!) These sticks are being sold @ Oc-Wear.de . G.Skill's site has the same info (not updated or wtf?).

I assume, these are the updated/rev. LA series:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4800/gskill%20PC4800%20LA.jpg


While the rest being sold are old ones. The old ones come in 1GB LA, while karokoto said, 2x512 (new LA?) are upcomming.. eh? Am i missing something?

Jupiler
01-04-2005, 10:18 AM
Got my 1 gig PC4800 LA kit in today.

Package :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/package.jpg

Sticker :


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/sticker.jpg


Chips :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/0437.jpg

Jessfm
01-04-2005, 10:33 AM
Got my 1 gig PC4800 LA kit in today.

Package :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/package.jpg

Sticker :


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/sticker.jpg


Chips :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/0437.jpg

Same chips that are on my Corsair PC3200XL rev1.2

tjj
01-04-2005, 10:34 AM
okkkkk.. So i guess, the information provided by G.Skill's site & oc-wear.de of current LA series ram modules is invalid. They are actually PC4800 @ 2.5-4-4-8.

Jupiler, nice.. so those are samsung tccd 437 chips, eh.

Please, post some OC results, (Dual Channel 2x512). I'm dieing to see some.. :rolleyes: :slobber:

WiCKeD
01-04-2005, 10:38 AM
I'd love to see some 2x512 OC'ing action on S939. :with:

"flossangeles"... that's a good one :D

Jupiler
01-04-2005, 10:59 AM
Well,
It doesn't look that good at all.
I probably have a crappy mem controller, cpu clocks good though.

Did some early testing with my 2 sticks, using the Neo2 with modded 1.41 bios.
When setting everything at AUTO in the bios, OCZ Memtest detects them as 2.5-4-4-8, just like the package says.

Of course, I tried to run them as fast as possible, hoping I'd be able to run them at 275Mhz, 2.5-3-3-7 at least, maybe a little more.

The max I could run them at 2.5-3-3-7 was 262Mhz, whithout getting any errors. Everything above that gave me errors at the end of test #5.

275Mhz seemed OK, but only with timings at AUTO e.g. 2.5-4-4-8.
300Mhz looked ok too, BUT only with 2T setting. 1T would instantly give me thousands of errors. :D

I'll try to do some more testing tomorrow, as it is to early to call them bad.
I'll also give them a try on the DFI Ut250Gb.


262Mhz, 2.5-7-3-3, 1T :


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/262pass.jpg


265Mhz, 2.5-7-3-3, 1T, failed :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/265fail.jpg


275, 2.5-4-4-8, pass :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/275pass.jpg

tjj
01-04-2005, 12:12 PM
Let's wait for OPB to comment on this aswell.. :(

RAINFIRE
01-04-2005, 01:15 PM
Yeah - I'm curious, too. Maybe Onepagebook can answer this. Are the RAM chips on the LA's the the same as on the LE's like mine below? I know some have TCCD 440. I'm lost. I've got to go find those other G.Skill threads. Here's my RAM: G.Skill F1-3200DSU2-1GBLE PC4400(DDR550) 2.5-3-3-7 PC3200 2-2-2-5 (Dual channel)

http://www.fx-55.com/watercool/images/t_P1010031.jpg

(I love my RAM and Computer more than my wife and kids) :banana:

Onepagebook
01-04-2005, 01:18 PM
Got my 1 gig PC4800 LA kit in today.

Package :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/package.jpg

Sticker :


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/sticker.jpg


Chips :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/0437.jpg

That's what my favorite is "437"

Rainfire, all the model numbers are the same.

J, what's your vdimm?
try switch the scket you insert the ram sticks and try every vdimm from 2.7~2.8v

agor
01-05-2005, 06:21 AM
so are the ones @ oc-wear old ones or is it wrong info on the site?

tjj
01-05-2005, 07:37 AM
so are the ones @ oc-wear old ones or is it wrong info on the site?

they seem to be the new ones, since the package is labeled PC4800 @ 2.5-4-4-8 (2T). The informatation provided on the oc-wear.de's & g.skill's site, however, is a bit outdated (LA PC4800 @ 3-4-4-8). We can see different specifications directly at Jupiler's package. Then again, Jupiler received the LA series with Samsung 437 chips, when karakoto has Samsung 440. So oc-wear is actually selling the new LAs with older 437 chips. :D

Someone correct me, if i'm wrong, please..

Onepagebook
01-05-2005, 09:00 AM
they seem to be the new ones, since the package is labeled PC4800 @ 2.5-4-4-8 (2T). The informatation provided on the oc-wear.de's & g.skill's site, however, is a bit outdated (LA PC4800 @ 3-4-4-8). We can see different specifications directly at Jupiler's package. Then again, Jupiler received the LA series with Samsung 437 chips, when karakoto has Samsung 440. So oc-wear is actually selling the new LAs with older 437 chips. :D

Someone correct me, if i'm wrong, please..


I think at that moment, the LA 1g was stated as DDR600 "2t"..(talked to Jupiler already)..1t is still, honestly, very hard to do on nf3 though.


OPB

Jupiler
01-05-2005, 10:42 AM
I think at that moment, the LA 1g was stated as DDR600 "2t"..(talked to Jupiler already)..1t is still, honestly, very hard to do on nf3 though.


OPB

Indeed it is, and specialy with 2*512 sticks.
But they do run at 300Mhz, 2.5-4-4-8, but only with 2T (as rated).


I did some more testing today.
Took the sticks out, made sure they were seated firmly, and put a 80mm fan over them.
Got some slightly better results.
270Mhz, 2.5-3-3-7, 1T looked OK. No errors in test #5.
275Mhz, 2.5-3-3-7, 1T gave me 2 errors after 20 loops of #5.
Tried every voltage available, but saw no improvement.

Slots 3+4 were a no go. Got me instant errors at 270Mhz.

Still think that the mem controller is crap. To bad. I had high expectations.
CPU is pretty good, does 2700Mhz at 1.56-1.57V.
But I guess you can't have it all. :)

270Mhz, 2.5-3-3-7, 1T :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/270Mhz25337.jpg


275Mhz, 2.5-3-3-7, 1T (2 errors) :

http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/gskill/275Mhz25337.jpg

Onepagebook
01-05-2005, 11:25 AM
J,
what 's your HTT setting when play with 275?:D;)

That's really a trick when you deal with "some weird neo2":D :p:

OPB


Edit: those two errors are not really the errors, no worries:D

Jupiler
01-05-2005, 11:35 AM
275*9, HT Frequency at 3, so within specs. :D

texuspete00
01-05-2005, 12:21 PM
I was gonna get some GSKill particularly for 1T. Otherwise gigs of BH5 work fine. But I guess 1T is only really hard at super high fsb's? I'd like 260ish - 1T... so I was thinking of the LE's (also because I want them now). Maybe rather than spam the mem section today I'll write OPB.

tjj
01-05-2005, 02:49 PM
I was gonna get some GSKill particularly for 1T. Otherwise gigs of BH5 work fine. But I guess 1T is only really hard at super high fsb's? I'd like 260ish - 1T... so I was thinking of the LE's (also because I want them now). Maybe rather than spam the mem section today I'll write OPB.

260 @ 1T is not an issue for G.Skill (LE/LA).

Brum Man
01-05-2005, 03:51 PM
Are the LE's rated at PC 4400 @ 1T or 2T?

Jupiler
01-05-2005, 04:01 PM
Think they're rated at 1T.

Brum Man
01-05-2005, 05:02 PM
Ok, so

LA's are rated @ PC4800/ 300 FSB @ 2T 2.5-2-2-8

LE's are rated @ PC4400/ 275 FSB @ 1T 2.5-3-3-7

There is quite a trade off to be had there between the higher FSB and timings. I wonder which would actually be better. What will both max out at, I can't really see that many chips being able to do much over what the LE's have to offer anyway really (apart from the FX's).

Mind you, i like the possibility that they may yeild better results with higher voltages, especially with the DFI coming out!

Onepagebook
01-05-2005, 05:26 PM
Ok, so

LA's are rated @ PC4800/ 300 FSB @ 2T 2.5-2-2-8

LE's are rated @ PC4400/ 275 FSB @ 1T 2.5-3-3-7

There is quite a trade off to be had there between the higher FSB and timings. I wonder which would actually be better. What will both max out at, I can't really see that many chips being able to do much over what the LE's have to offer anyway really (apart from the FX's).

Mind you, i like the possibility that they may yeild better results with higher voltages, especially with the DFI coming out!


As I can honestly tell, Oskar mainly test LP NF4 on old non-rated Gskill 0425 TCCD 512x2 and 256x2 ram :D
That really surprised me a lot when he can got it up to more than DDR700 w/ all 3d marks complete.(256x2) :)

OPB

Jessfm
01-05-2005, 06:01 PM
OPB,, can you tell me why you think/like the 437 the best ?

I would have thought the later chips would have been better ?

Onepagebook
01-05-2005, 06:12 PM
OPB,, can you tell me why you think/like the 437 the best ?

I would have thought the later chips would have been better ?


ok, that's really weird thing never happened before:

I forgot the name from our forum, a gentleman he pm me regarding his 1g LE got problem(purchased from excaliber), after I read his PM, I think , it definitely should be mobo's prob. I think it's av8(abit), so I got his rma. According to his situation, he told me like he could not get the ram running at 260(I forgot) "3-4-4-8".. and that ram IC dated 437.
you know what? from that moment until now, I always use that pair of ram, this pair of 1g dual LE on NF4 get me like DDR625 2.5-3-3-7 definitely 1t CMD not loaded from NF4 CG, it was done by bios setting. I can say, in this world, nobody can do this:D:
What you guys think?
but 437 is hard to find. :(
http://www.devilsword.com/ms7125/ddr6251t.jpg

RAINFIRE
01-05-2005, 06:21 PM
ok, that's really weird thing never happened before:

I forgot the name from our forum, a gentleman he pm me regarding his 1g LE got problem(purchased from excaliber), after I read his PM, I think , it definitely should be mobo's prob. I think it's av8(abit), so I got his rma. According to his situation, he told me like he could not get the ram running at 260(I forgot) "3-4-4-8".. and that ram IC dated 437.
you know what? from that moment until now, I always use that pair of ram, this pair of 1g dual LE on NF4 get me like DDR625 2.5-3-3-7 definitely 1t CMD not loaded from NF4 CG, it was done by bios setting. I can say, in this world, nobody can do this:D:
What you guys think?
but 437 is hard to find. :(


Hehe - I have a 1 Gig set (2 x512) LE's with TCCD 437 chips. I'll sell to the first one to cough up $400.00. Hahaha - Hell, I'll even through in the Tt Truelight LED Heat Spreaders :) :D :)
F1-3200DSU2-1GBLE PC4400(DDR550) 2.5-3-3-7 PC3200 2-2-2-5 (Dual channel)

Pictures here: http://www.fx-55.com/watercool/

Onepagebook
01-05-2005, 06:30 PM
Pictures here: http://www.fx-55.com/watercool/[/QUOTE]


Nice, really nice! :D :toast:

Skip
01-05-2005, 06:45 PM
i have those same exact chips rainfire, exact same code on them.

except no computer to put them in,

look at sig......

Jessfm
01-05-2005, 07:19 PM
Thanks for that OPB,

As it turns out I have 437 TCCD on my Cosair 3200XL, but the codes at the bottom of chip are slightly different a mix of BMGL74A2 and BMGL74P2 's

Revv23
01-06-2005, 09:05 AM
For take WR or only benches 2x256 are sure better!

But for the games today you need 2x512 ...

i disagree, the only thing i benifit by from having 2x512 is smoother windows peroformance, i dont gain or lose fps from only having 512, so unless im missing something or playing the wrong games...

agor
01-06-2005, 09:42 AM
play some ram based games like world of warcraft, where there is a HUGE difference between 512 and 1024

L@TrO
01-06-2005, 10:41 AM
crap , i think i have even olden chips

512mb Gskill Pc4800 La // Samsung 431 // k4h560838F-TCCD
with a 3-4-4-8@600 sticker

Onepagebook
01-06-2005, 10:56 AM
crap , i think i have even olden chips

512mb Gskill Pc4800 La // Samsung 431 // k4h560838F-TCCD
with a 3-4-4-8@600 sticker


is that old? nah...sometimes you just can't blame on RAM
Oskar test his NF4 by using the 0425 Gskill TCCD, that 's not even rated at 3-4-4-8 DDR600 ;) and he can do more than DDR700.. :slobber:
That's what I can't figure out! :p:

** I also play a ot of 431, not bad at all. :)


OPB

Mrki
01-06-2005, 12:47 PM
i disagree, the only thing i benifit by from having 2x512 is smoother windows peroformance, i dont gain or lose fps from only having 512, so unless im missing something or playing the wrong games...

Thats true!

You dont have more fps with 2x512 then 2x256 but loading games and performance in games and closing games you will see the differentiated!

will you have 2x512 you never want back to 2x256 ;)

Super strokey
01-06-2005, 01:16 PM
you do gain a few fps aswell, not like a huge increase but you do gain some

enzoR
01-06-2005, 01:17 PM
its much smoother...

Revv23
01-06-2005, 01:30 PM
Thats true!

You dont have more fps with 2x512 then 2x256 but loading games and performance in games and closing games you will see the differentiated!

will you have 2x512 you never want back to 2x256 ;)


thats funny i went from 1gb to 512...

but i guess the 30 mhz fsb i gained not to mention being able to run CPC On more then made up for it.

sure if theres 2x512 that will clock just as good im all over it, but i dont really have a problem with 2x256 as long as im clocking higher... but then again i dont play Wow, which might want more ram, who knows, i still have this bh-5 in my IC7 waiting for Vmod, didnt do so well on my AMD though.

RAINFIRE
01-06-2005, 01:34 PM
Hahaha - I'd have 2 Gigs of that G.Skill LE RAM if I could afford - it hella matters to me.

IMHO - MORE RAM ALWAYS = BETTER!!

bias_hjorth
01-06-2005, 02:02 PM
Indeed it is, and specialy with 2*512 sticks.

To bad. I had high expectations.


I do have the same modules and there´ doing aprox the same (btw. mine´s pc4400) I had high expectations too :( I cant even get windows stable with 270 1gb 2.5-3-3-7.

uclajd
01-06-2005, 02:10 PM
i disagree, the only thing i benifit by from having 2x512 is smoother windows peroformance, i dont gain or lose fps from only having 512, so unless im missing something or playing the wrong games... Yes, you're playing the wrong games. :stick: :lol:

Unreal Tournament 2004 loads up and has to page file if you have 512K. Talk about slow loads. You'll be killed twice when you spawn into online games before you are able to defend yourself. :bananal:

1024 totally changed my UT 2004 game experience.

Jessfm
01-06-2005, 06:02 PM
I not had a comp that was 512K since the Amiga :banana4:

Revv23
01-06-2005, 07:40 PM
lol


well i still have a rig with 1024 so we shall see, im a FPS dude and HL2/Doom3 seem to do alright.

ocmyface
01-12-2005, 01:00 PM
download the 7 day trial of planetside
play with 512mb then play with 1 gig, you will see the difference :)

so, any ETA on when we can buy this stuff here in the US?

Revv23
01-12-2005, 02:16 PM
^yes but planetside sucks.

Super strokey
01-12-2005, 03:56 PM
Where can i get the demo for it? IU always wanted to try it. PM me, fileplanet says teh trial is over

=[PULSAR]=
01-13-2005, 02:16 AM
Ummm...updates on where to buy in US?

kakaroto
01-13-2005, 07:53 AM
=']Ummm...updates on where to buy in US?

you can buy at:

www.digi4me.com
www.newegg.com
www.excaliberpc.com

FlyBoyGeo
01-13-2005, 06:50 PM
LA sticks at digi4me.com & newegg.com only in 256MB sticks, excaliberpc.com is not carrying the LA's yet.

=[PULSAR]=
01-13-2005, 07:05 PM
Link to newegg i cant seem to find them?

FlyBoyGeo
01-13-2005, 07:57 PM
=']Link to newegg i cant seem to find them?

Only the 256MB LA sticks at newegg.com HERE (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-231-007&depa=0)

HARDCORECLOCKER
01-14-2005, 04:37 AM
:D Get mine next week ( 2 x 256 MB ). Need to run them at 336MHz 1T for a 1:1 clock at 10 x 336.
Did anyone push them up to 336 1T with 3-4-4-8 or 3-5-5-10 ?

:toast:

RAINFIRE
01-14-2005, 11:04 AM
Hey, this memory is on the front page of [H]ardOCP with the review being here:

http://www.octools.com/index.cgi?caller=articles/gskill/pc4800/pc4800.html

scarface
01-14-2005, 11:14 AM
Listing of All G.Skill products offered at Egg
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=BROWSE&manufactory=8476&DEPA=1

just ordered my 4400-1GBLE Kit today, was afraid they would run out. hehe :sofa: :banana:

mike11973
01-24-2005, 04:49 PM
Can you end up getting another pack of the 512 LA's to use up all 4 of the available slots and still get the same o/c results or do you just need to wait for 2-512 sticks of this stuff to have a gig?

Revv23
01-25-2005, 05:19 AM
running 4 slots doesnt overclock well with any memory...the memory controller usually doesnt like it, though it sounds like this may change soon...

thesaucier
02-03-2005, 12:34 AM
Will I am sure keeping an eye on this thread! I have tried bh5 and am now using corsair 4000pro hinx but can do t1 at all. I hope to see the 4800 gskill 1 gig set come out soon.

=[PULSAR]=
02-03-2005, 01:22 AM
Anyone have any results with dual 512 sticks?

thesaucier
02-03-2005, 02:50 AM
=']Anyone have any results with dual 512 sticks?
Thats what I am waiting for but they are not out yet that I know of.

Geforce4ti4200
02-04-2005, 10:37 AM
is there any 2x512mb sticks out yet that can do ddr600 at 2.5-3-3-x at T1

kakaroto
02-04-2005, 05:24 PM
is there any 2x512mb sticks out yet that can do ddr600 at 2.5-3-3-x at T1

No not on the market, but PC4400 LE and PC4800 LA can do that with little OC. :)

Geforce4ti4200
02-04-2005, 09:38 PM
ive been told that no 2x512 ram has ever hit ddr600 at anything other than 3-4-4-8 timings(it did to t1) I was planning on waiting for ram to improve where 2.5-3-3-7 at 300MHz, ddr600 becomes a reality. I wont make any predictions when cause I dont know, but is it even within the relm of possibility within 6 months? A Venice at 300x10 or at least 300x9 with ddr600 2.5-3-3-7 t1 would make my day. I could do 273x11 for 3GHz but the loss of ram bandwith would cost me over 100MHz cpu power

Jessfm
02-05-2005, 12:09 AM
who told you that TCCD can't hit 300mhz @ cas2.5 ?

Geforce4ti4200
02-05-2005, 12:35 AM
my friend but hes talking about 512mb sticks, not 256mb but I need 2x512 for gaming

Jessfm
02-05-2005, 12:47 AM
http://www.ricco.karoo.net/images/2700_1.gif

Corsair PC3200XL @ 300mhz 2.5,4,8,4 2T on NF3.

I have seen many threads about ppl with TCCD hitting 300mhz with tighter timings too.
Maybe search the forum a little more, then go :slapass: your friend

tjj
02-05-2005, 06:14 AM
my friend but hes talking about 512mb sticks, not 256mb but I need 2x512 for gaming

http://img112.exs.cx/img112/4596/xsvdimm9oj.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~mdzcpa/images/forumpics/1to1.JPG
http://www.e04hardware.com/coolalerbb/ms7125htt4xddr6001t.jpg
http://www.devilsword.com/ms7125/ddr6251t.jpg
http://driverheavenuploads.co.uk/SIK_L_CELL/SI-4.JPG
http://goddi.r4ge.de/pc/agor_7700ram.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/legion100/2.jpg

edit: ALL 1T & ALL G.Skill. :)

Geforce4ti4200
02-05-2005, 02:07 PM
not bad, many have 290, two have 300! One did have to run ras-cas4 so his doesnt count. I noticed all may have fx55s but one with a 3000+ winny at 290x9 1:1 which is :slobber: How stable are their achievements? suicide screenshot? I think I can get 280 1:1 for that. 3dmark capable? then it drops to 266, but I run 262, alot more stable for my 3dmarking. 24/7 and 100% stable? try 250 for me :(

windwithme
02-08-2005, 07:45 PM
1GBLA is 2T :p:

thesaucier
02-21-2005, 12:21 AM
I still cant find any in the US and I dont realy trust that digi4me.com. How many have used digi4me.com with good resaults?

reaperman
02-21-2005, 12:48 AM
ive just bought some OCZ EL Plats rev2.0 2x512mb PC3200 and that has done DDR610 on an FX-53, i dont have a screeny of it, but it was running 2.5-3-3-8 i think, i could be wrong. it was at 1T as well. maybe i just got lucky.

kakaroto
02-21-2005, 07:09 AM
1GBLA is 2T :p:

Yes standard = 2T voor 1GB kits. But running 1T is no problemo :)

Sir Lancelot
02-21-2005, 03:14 PM
What a confusion...

What are the LA rated for after all???

WolfF
02-23-2005, 11:52 PM
I can't run my 512MB Kit of GSkill LA on spec 300FSB 2.5-4-4-8, neither than T1 or T2, I tested 2.50V to 2.85V in Dual Channel without sucess.

:(

At Single Channel my GSkill goes to 320 with 2.8VDimm 2.5-4-4-8 T1

thesaucier
02-24-2005, 11:33 AM
I can't run my 512MB Kit of GSkill LA on spec 300FSB 2.5-4-4-8, neither than T1 or T2, I tested 2.50V to 2.85V in Dual Channel without sucess.

:(

At Single Channel my GSkill goes to 320 with 2.8VDimm 2.5-4-4-8 T1

What board and cpu do you have? Where did you get them?
Nice thing is they can be RMA.

kakaroto
02-24-2005, 02:15 PM
What a confusion...

What are the LA rated for after all???

LA is rated 2-2-2-5 @200MHz and 300MHz (DDR600) at 2.5-4-4-8.


I can't run my 512MB Kit of GSkill LA on spec 300FSB 2.5-4-4-8, neither than T1 or T2, I tested 2.50V to 2.85V in Dual Channel without sucess.

:(

At Single Channel my GSkill goes to 320 with 2.8VDimm 2.5-4-4-8 T1

What is your CPU? It might be your memory controller.

Won't your system just not boot with 1T or many errors?

DoberMan
02-25-2005, 02:25 PM
http://www1.interacesso.pt/~telmolopes/A64Overclock.JPG
http://www1.interacesso.pt/~telmolopes/A64Overclock2.JPG

All stock cooler. No OC on graphic. Waiting for XP120.



A64 3200+ 0450 SPBW
G.Skill 4800LA 2x512Mb 1T
DFI SLI-DR
Albatron 6600GT

funkdog
02-27-2005, 02:22 PM
I'm running my 2x256 PDP XBL TCCD at 2.5,4,4,7 310x8 1:1, prime stable.

1.45vcore 2.8vdimm

Dumo
02-28-2005, 12:46 AM
crap , i think i have even olden chips

512mb Gskill Pc4800 La // Samsung 431 // k4h560838F-TCCD
with a 3-4-4-8@600 stickerSame chips 431, only with LE stamp :D

Brandybuck
02-28-2005, 01:14 AM
my pc3200 la 2x256 440 chips...

http://img222.exs.cx/img222/8224/322fsb5ur.jpg

C_X
02-28-2005, 01:45 AM
My Gskill pc 4800 does 260 @ 2.5-3-3-7. I can't get it to 300 or more because my cpu won't go higher ;) What i do know is even with heat spreaders the chips can be verry hot so i placed a 5 and a 6 cm fan on top of the hetaspreaders. That will keep it cool.

(super pi with cpu @ 3.906 (p4 prescott 3.0 Ghz) an ram @ 260 2.5-3-3-7 = 34 sec)(everything cooled on air)


http://users.pandora.be/matenhen/superpiencpuz.JPG


Very happy with tha ram and it will go also in my a64 system.

FlyingHamster
02-28-2005, 05:56 PM
nice oc brandybuck!

what vdimm were u using? what mobo? 24/7 stable? did u use A64 tweaker??

Revv23
03-01-2005, 07:08 AM
pic isnt working for my brandy

kalhau
06-22-2005, 03:48 AM
Hello!

Can anybody tell me how much does a 1Gb LA PC4800(DDR600) 3-4-4-8 PC3200 2-2-2-5 Dual channel kit, with TCCD 437 Samsung chips cost?
These memories with 437 chips are better (and off course more expensive) than the same memories with TCCD 440? A friend of mine says that this memory with 437 chips costs around 425 €. Is that true?!?

Eldonko
06-22-2005, 09:23 AM
What will GSkill do when their TCCD supply is gone, use TCC5 chips?? Can we expect to see a microscopic v1.1 in the future?

amrgb
06-22-2005, 09:47 AM
What will GSkill do when their TCCD supply is gone, use TCC5 chips?? Can we expect to see a microscopic v1.1 in the future?

No need to, they sell their ram naked. Everyone knows what is buying.

Eldonko
06-22-2005, 11:39 AM
No need to, they sell their ram naked. Everyone knows what is buying.There are only so many TCCD chips out there though and any new ones are going to Corsair because of the exclusive agreement with Samsung. What happens when GSkill has no more TCCD?

cool_dude
07-01-2005, 12:40 PM
I got my Gskill 4800 Earlier this morning, put it in my system at aroudn 5 oclock and started clocking at around 7 ish :D

Im kind of new to 'memory' overclocking, so things might not be to their best of ability.

The following pic shows an overclock with a:
asus a8n sli, 3000 venice and 1gb gskill 4800 la.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7075/gskillramcooldude2vv.jpg
Only problem is its running at 2T because of asus's stupid 1T issue! :mad:
Ultra-D will be on the way soon :)

However i am happy, considering its 1GB :)


What do you guys think?? any improvmetns i can do ya think??

cool_dude
07-26-2005, 10:27 AM
Long time since a reply in this thread but, ive achieved 290FSB 1:1 and at 1T also with 2.5-4-3-7 timmings.

To do this i needed 2.8V and something to cool down the chips on the memory... Heres what i done...

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1166/ramcoolinginside3rd.th.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ramcoolinginside3rd.jpg)

92MM cooling the ram.... really impressed with this as soo many people say it cannot run 290/300 with 1T... well ive prooved them wrong :woot: :woot:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5978/40passesat2901t2ld.th.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=40passesat2901t2ld.jpg)

pifreak
08-04-2005, 03:04 PM
how is that? 311mhz 2.5/3/3/7 1T dual channel at 2.7V

weird thing is that in XP I can't run SuperPI at this speed yet it passes memtest86 v1,6

Jaco
08-04-2005, 10:23 PM
how is that? 311mhz 2.5/3/3/7 1T dual channel at 2.7V

weird thing is that in XP I can't run SuperPI at this speed yet it passes memtest86 v1,6

nothing weird about that.
just goes to show memtest doesn't mean much

pifreak
08-05-2005, 06:22 AM
nothing weird about that.
just goes to show memtest doesn't mean much
lol yeah - ment to add weird that I can complete memtest1.6 at even tigher settings....310 2.5/4/3/7 1T is no probs with super Pi - just would like to get the 4 down to 3....

cool_dude
08-05-2005, 08:40 AM
mines perfectley stable in and out of windows. Can run anything :D

dont know whats up with yours.. 10 minutes aint long either, try 30+ minutes.

cool_dude
08-05-2005, 10:04 AM
lol yours stable at that?

Whats that supposed to mean?

pifreak
08-05-2005, 11:45 AM
Whats that supposed to mean?
actually nothing - my stability problem is once I go upwards 313mhz with 2.5/4/3/5 1T was just wondering if yours was 100% stable with those timinngs I am having beyond 313mhz

Stocky
08-05-2005, 11:58 AM
Nice to see you're happy with that memory cool_dude ;)
How much further do you think it'd go - Is it burnt in yet?

cool_dude
08-06-2005, 06:48 AM
Nice to see you're happy with that memory cool_dude ;)
How much further do you think it'd go - Is it burnt in yet?

Hehe :D not sure just doing some ocing now, going to see how far my chip will get :)

noosphere
11-16-2005, 04:33 PM
Hi guys :D
Anyone have a Gskill 4800 LA 2*512 kit with a Opteron 148?
I can´t put my mems stable with 300htt :( ... my opty is rocksolid at 3000mhs (24H prime stable)
Any advice?
Could you put some configs to this kits?
Regard dudes.

Noosphere