High voltage lovin voltmaster, pics , specs , release date

[ryanpgroovy]

Everyone keeps Pming me asking about when the "voltmaster " product will be to market ect , So I am going to lay down all the information I know , including what I have recently found out

The product is supposed to be called "voltage extreme"

It will be released as a PC-3200 part the proposed specs look like this , but they may change

PC-3200
2-2-2 @ 3.3 volts 2.5-x-x @ 2.6 volts

We are building the first production run now , which puts the release right around the corner. I would guess it will ship to reatailers early next week , probably we will see a press release in the next 10 days , so either monday upcoming , or the monday after thanksgiving


I have included a picture of the chips , and some benches .


notes about the performance:

At under 2.9 volts this product is not that hot , it only gets good above 3 volts

Its optimized for A64 , so 250 at 2-2-2 should be a easy hit on A64 with enough voltage , we have hit as high at 277 in single channel and 265 in DC , but not all will do that

The sweet spot seems to be 3.4-3.6 above that we see diminishing returns

On the 875 chipset the results are not as good I have seen 220-230 at 2-2-2

Relaxed timings down to 2-2-3 show a bit of a speed increase , but nothing significant.




A note about price , we are pricing it lower that our TCCD based product

[TEDY]

any clue which chips are used ?

Hynix, Samsung tccd ?

[agenda2005]

Everyone keeps Pming me asking about when the "voltmaster " product will be to market ect , So I am going to lay down all the information I know , including what I have recently found out

The product is supposed to be called "voltage extreme"

It will be released as a PC-3200 part the proposed specs look like this , but they may change

PC-3200
2-2-2 @ 3.3 volts 2.5-x-x @ 2.6 volts

We are building the first production run now , which puts the release right around the corner. I would guess it will ship to reatailers early next week , probably we will see a press release in the next 10 days , so either monday upcoming , or the monday after thanksgiving


I have included a picture of the chips , and some benches .


notes about the performance:

At under 2.9 volts this product is not that hot , it only gets good above 3 volts

Its optimized for A64 , so 250 at 2-2-2 should be a easy hit on A64 with enough voltage , we have hit as high at 277 in single channel and 265 in DC , but not all will do that

The sweet spot seems to be 3.4-3.6 above that we see diminishing returns

On the 875 chipset the results are not as good I have seen 220-230 at 2-2-2

Relaxed timings down to 2-2-3 show a bit of a speed increase , but nothing significant.




A note about price , we are pricing it lower that our TCCD based product

Can you please show the memory latency on the EVEREST program when running 2-2-2-x at 275MHz and 265MHz. Which CPU are you using for the benchies?

[SteveOCZ]

They are OCZ chips and we are not going to give any more info to the competition than that :)

You guys can play the guessing game but we wont tell :d

[Joe Camel]

:dammit: i JUST blew like $550 on sets of G-skills and Mushie's...

guess you'll (OCZ) be get'n my NEXT paycheck... :wierd:

any idea/hints as to where we might see these first? (newegg, ZZF etc?)

[conrad.maranan]

Its optimized for A64 , so 250 at 2-2-2 should be a easy hit on A64 with enough voltage , we have hit as high at 277 in single channel and 265 in DC , but not all will do that
Hold on. 277MHz SC and 265MHz DC at 2-2-2-x timings?!?!?! I think I'm gonna pass on the graphics card and pick up a set of these instead. :slobber:

[Tony]

Can you please show the memory latency on the EVEREST program when running 2-2-2-x at 275MHz and 265MHz. Which CPU are you using for the benchies?


http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18478

That was at 260fsb

[bachus_anonym]

just one question, though... how stable is that 277 SC / 265 DC ? as Sandra shots are not good enough imho :stick:
still great oc for 2x512MB...

[ryanpgroovy]

The benches I got were pretty stable, but not all sticks are assured to hit those speeds , for example I think some of the guys only got 260 2-2-2 from there 2x512 units

I would say a fair estimate is 250 2-2-2 on a A64 should be easily reachable at the right voltage

[conrad.maranan]

250MHz @ 2-2-2-x is still remarkable, to say the least. Sure there are some BH-5 modules that can do that, but the rape prices on ebay are ridiculous for BH-5.

[sparkie34]

The benches I got were pretty stable, but not all sticks are assured to hit those speeds , for example I think some of the guys only got 260 2-2-2 from there 2x512 units

I would say a fair estimate is 250 2-2-2 on a A64 should be easily reachable at the right voltage


Good work. Can't wait to see how they do for everyone. :)

[SteveOCZ]

just one question, though... how stable is that 277 SC / 265 DC ? as Sandra shots are not good enough imho :stick:
still great oc for 2x512MB...

The sandra shots were low because of the cpu they used to benchmark. Low multi= low sandra numbers on 939 systems

[Nanobot]

OMG! It's True :slobber:

I'm ordering a GIG !

Is there going to be a kit bundled with the Booster like you mentionnned previously ?

Ryan,I dont want to sound pissed here but could OCZ please make these available faster than the PC4200 EL Plat that took an extra 2 weeks to show up in canada... :( . I guess canada is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from the US,hey :p:

[ryanpgroovy]

I will call the ocz canada office myself and complain

[Nanobot]

Thank you for caring Ryan :toast:

[bachus_anonym]

The sandra shots were low because of the cpu they used to benchmark. Low multi= low sandra numbers on 939 systems
what i meant was that showing only Sandra might now be good enough for some to make a buying decision.
but if that 2x512MB kit hits 250Mhz x-2-2-2.0 then it's all good...

I will call the ocz canada office myself and complain
damn, you guys are all over it :)

[sparkie34]

damn, you guys are all over it

You can tell its an important day for them. Every OCZ rep is online right now. Good to see they care.

[agenda2005]

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18478

That was at 260fsb

Bigtoe,
Hey thanks. That was remarkable latency. If you can, please can you test run those modules on A64 939 system and let us see some nice sandra bandwith and EVEREST memory latency. Thanks again for the quick response.

[Playful_Buffalo]

how far do they get with relaxed timings?

[SteveOCZ]

You can tell its an important day for them. Every OCZ rep is online right now. Good to see they care.

Well we are all online every day, but maybe not all here at XS :toast:

I'll be getting these things early next week so I'll post up what ever you guys need then in terms of tests if Tony or the others that have it already don't get to it first

Steve

[xgman]

How bout a head to head compare with the top tccd 4200EL Plat's with and without extreme voltage?

[ryanpgroovy]

It wont do the same top end speed that 4200 plat will.

[quicksilverXP]

Why would you want top end speed with these modules..... 250... even 240 at 2-2-2 is good enough...

[Nanobot]

That's why I'll get the voltmaster instead of the EL4200 Platinum;with 2 dimm slot filled the AMD64 memory controler will top out at ~270Mhz .
I'm a gamer I need a Gig of ram so higher than 270MHz mem. is not possible--> Voltmaster is my best bet.

[quicksilverXP]

how much cheaper will they be? You said cheaper than your TCCD based ram... so cheaper than the OCZ revision 2's?

[Tony]

Bigtoe,
Hey thanks. That was remarkable latency. If you can, please can you test run those modules on A64 939 system and let us see some nice sandra bandwith and EVEREST memory latency. Thanks again for the quick response.

I have them in the 875P-T DFI at the mo and i seem to have squeezed 2.5-2-2-5 all tweaks on out of them at 3.2Vdimm 233fsb ;)

939 is an issue at the mo for me...i have the Asus Via board with a workin lock bit the booster doesn't like it and the ATI RS480 i had was sick and went back to ATI, means im stuck with 754 and the benchies i already did showing the latency you have already.

Im sure OCZeric may chime in with the MSI if he gets a mo and run a bench or 2 for you.

[ryanpgroovy]

not sure on the exact cost , but lower that our PC-3200 platnium rev 2

[conrad.maranan]

So, I guess it's safe to assume that it will be less than $279.75 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-890&depa=0). I'm hoping it'll be in the neighborhood of $250.00. :D

[Torin]

Yeah, it's nice and well that it runs good on 754, but with the Winchesters becoming more popular by the day, it would be huge if you could replicate the same performance on 939 as with 754.

[TEDY]

make it neighborhood at around 220$ ...PDP XL :D

[trans am]

These are going to be perfect for 754 rigs. For those that are bottlenecked by the 754 mem controller running 2x512 @ speeds over 270. This is the missing link we've been waiting for. Thanks OCZ!

[ryanpgroovy]

Torin ,

We can get pretty decent scores on the Athlon 64 939

[craig588]

I have a PSU with a 4.4V 3.3V rail all ready, it just depends on the price of these things.

What is the max voltage these support without spontaniously dieing?

[Tony]

I have a PSU with a 4.4V 3.3V rail all ready, it just depends on the price of these things.

What is the max voltage these support without spontaniously dieing?
3.3 to 3.4Vdimm is the sweet spot, anything there after just creates heat etc.

[quicksilverXP]

And 3.3v and 3.4v are the max voltages in which you would honor an RMA... anything past that its void? And any idea on the heatspreaders? I think since these have their own new product line they should have some gnarly heatspreaders...

[ryanpgroovy]

I asked and we seem to think that we will limit it to 3.5 or 3.6 under warranty

[craig588]

I run my BH5 bare with 3.6V. HSs don't help much.

[Rabbi_NZ]

Great product!
Well done OCZ :toast: , your company (and DFI) is the best thing that happened to the overclocking community in a looong time!

[ryanpgroovy]

thanks Rabbi

[trans am]

Off topic, but you guys sent back some amazing EL4200 platinum to replace my bad ones. Tell Sean I said thanks! both do 300 2.5-3-3-7 1t memtest stable.

[Tony]

So i got playing, DFI 875 P-T (wonderfull board BTW) beta Voltmaster that does 260 2-2-2 single channel on my 250UT at 3.3Vdimm sat here at 3.2V 2-2-2-5.

Now i have been memtesting this rig all night and i have NO OS on it yet. 252fsb was all test stable so i would say 250 is fine and dandy. Some dimms may do better than this, some may do a little worse, remember they do a lot better on the A64 but at least i got reasonably high with an Intel rig.

here you go.

[reject]

do you know roughly how much it will cost in australia? EL plat rev2 is 560$, while the other TCCD ram is around 470$. if its under 480$ for a gig i would seriously consider it

[EnJoY]

Is this product to be considered limitied edition? Meaning that we better get them while you have them? Or is supply good and constant for atleast the near future?

[blinky]

does this ram do well at all with higher latencies, say 2.5-3-3-7, or 3-4-4-8?

[reject]

i would think thats defeating the purpose and it wouldnt be as good as tccd

[jlccarv]

Seriously, I haven't been on these boards for long, but the OCZ involvment here is amazing! :up:

:idea: It may just be time to vdimm mod my 9NDA3+ :D

[PnoT]

While this product looks very interesting and the timings are nice i'm just curious as to why everyone doesn't just get some sticks of bh-5 and do 2-2-2-5 up and beyond 250 with volts? I got in the outpost deal and scooped up a few sets and some one else on here got like 40 or more. Is the fact that people are wanting so much for bh-5 now or do you guys think this product will surpass bh-5. Not trying to rain just asking a few questions to satisfy my curiousity.

:toast:

[s e t h]

i'll bet they may not boot as cas3. just look at the chips posted in the first post. they have little round dimples exactly like winbond ic's. also performance and voltage figures almost exactly match bh5/6 results. maybe even the latest ch-5?

did somebody find a stash or fire up the old winbond machines?
are there any other chips that display that two dimple marking?
i bet they are winbond based ic's on brain power pcb's(as seen by brain powers B6U808 number also in the module picture)

i was hoping the results of winbond/brain power might be even better. i was in fact planning to try baking some on myself after raping some hyperx but i see it is not worth it. :(

[SteveOCZ]

i'll bet they may not boot as cas3. just look at the chips posted in the first post. they have little round dimples exactly like winbond ic's. also performance and voltage figures almost exactly match bh5/6 results. maybe even the latest ch-5?

did somebody find a stash or fire up the old winbond machines?
are there any other chips that display that two dimple marking?
i bet they are winbond based ic's on brain power pcb's(as seen by brain powers B6U808 number also in the module picture)

i was hoping the results of winbond/brain power might be even better. i was in fact planning to try baking some on myself after raping some hyperx but i see it is not worth it. :(

Well our 3500 and 3200 platinum limited edition's were bh-5/6 on BP pcb's so you've already seen that. These are not old chips they are brand spankin new stuff and AFAIK this won't be limited edition :toast:

[s e t h]

yea this is excellent news. effectively this stuff at least equals winbonds ic's success.
and it will now be in regular supply. that is really great news. maybe they will get even better over time. ddr600 at 6-2-2-2.0 may be achivable eventually under the right circumstances/cooling.

any idea what happens to these modules if they are say inside a boxed ln2 rig with -50' air temps? :D

[Tony]

Guys remember OCZ pioneered the BP PCB which everyone else has followed, we have been using it for 18months or so.

We are pushing to bring down latencies and give you guys what you need and want, the fact it will be cheaper than the TCCD modules is a bonus also ;)

[Tony]

875P-T 250 1:1 2-2-2-5 settings as per the bios shot a few posts back.

[Tony]

A CPU-Z to show what CPU im running and to back up the timings on the ram.

SPD shows 2.5-3-3-7 at 166 and 3-4-4-8 at 200, im sat at 250 with 2-2-2-5 :p:

[TEDY]

wonder how this memory does in NF2 ?

[cantankerous]

This is great news. Very excited about these. One thing I am wondering though and please do correct me if I'm wrong. These chips seem to have a fair amount of inconsistency in how high they can go and at what volts. The first post by Ryan in the other thread showed these doing 233 2-2-2 at 3.3v where Eric showed a screen of them doing 260 2-2-2 at only 3.2v. I understand not all chips can be identical, and there will be variances, however, are the differences in these chips going to be great meaning we need a lot of luck to get chips that will beat our beloved BH? I understand as well you are limited to what boards you can test with and perhaps some platforms use these chips better than others. Please forgive my arrogance as I truly don't know the answer to my questions above so have asked the pros who know.

In regards to your post above of 250 at 2-2-2 what volts did you need to obtain that stable? Will NF3 require say more or less than intel at same speeds etc?

Lastly, how will these perform in NF2 boards for people who haven't jumped onto the A64 band wagon yet. I would be very curious to see how these perform with 3.3v in the DFI LPB.

I hope upon release we can get a good average and what to expect from these chips in terms of volts/speed. If it can do 260 2-2-2 with only 3.2-3.3v as Eric has showed than these would definately be better than BH based chips otherwise these may just be another alternative.

[Tony]

Ryan didn't expect me to be able to hit ddr500 with these on an 875 board, infact he was pretty excited when i told him i had as tests back at the Lab had shown a 230 ish max 2-2-2.

Voltages are pretty consistent, 3.1+, and its gets cool at 3.3 to 3.4v with anything more not really worth it.

On the Neo2 Eric hit 260 dual channel, i hit 260 Single on the 250UT with Eric hitting 275 with a better module.

Ryan has tried to show what you can expect, its hard to spec a module like this when it needs voltage to get going, heck they won't even do 2-3-3 at 200 without 2.8Vdimm+...thats why we are pushing these to enthusiasts only and its why you will see a number of guys posting this next week with their experience and advice on how best to get the best from it. i doubt you will see many reviews as its enthusiast only with Xtreme the best place to first show it and explain what the product does.

Regarding a comparison to BH5, BH5 is gone, i keep saying this, if you have it keep it and look after it..i know i will be looking after mine ;) This ram though is a good alternative and does 2-2-2 when juiced up at ddr500+.

If this is what your looking for then it looks like you may not have to search on Ebay much longer ;)

[cantankerous]

Thanks for the response Tony. I have some BH-6 right now. It is ok but nothing special. 250 2-2-2 as a guarantee is nice however more is of course better. I would kill to get 260 2-2-2 with dual channel 2 X 512mb chips. It seems it is only luck of the draw in getting chips that do that and chances of getting lower are great. I will keep my eyes on this for awhile and see how they turn out. If they can outbeat my BH-6 chips without a hitch than by all means I will get myself a pair.

I was actually going to get your cream of the crop 4200 LE platinum chips. I understand these chips won't hit the high end like the 4200's however the much tighter latencies must stand for something. Would 250 2-2-2 with these chips be better than 270 2.5-3-3 on an a64 setup?

Can you guys do some tests on a NFII platform? I would love to see how they do on that as a lot of people still haven't jumped onto a64. Thanks.

[Den Leiw]

wow this really looks amazing

and they are cheap also

now who wouldn't go and buy something like that ^_^

[LilGator]

:slobber:

I'd kill for 2x512MB of 260MHz 2-2-2-5 on my NEO2 ...

[TEDY]

please make some test on DFI NF2

[cantankerous]

Exactly I think 260 is the key in me buying these. I want something that BH couldn't do under any circumstances. I can only imagine what they could do on the DFI 939 when it comes out.

[ryanpgroovy]

The problem with NF2 is that is does not like 2x512s as there is to much load on the memory controller , this goes for any memory on NF 2 .

[blinky]

Thanks for the response Tony. I have some BH-6 right now. It is ok but nothing special. 250 2-2-2 as a guarantee is nice however more is of course better. I would kill to get 260 2-2-2 with dual channel 2 X 512mb chips. It seems it is only luck of the draw in getting chips that do that and chances of getting lower are great. I will keep my eyes on this for awhile and see how they turn out. If they can outbeat my BH-6 chips without a hitch than by all means I will get myself a pair.

I was actually going to get your cream of the crop 4200 LE platinum chips. I understand these chips won't hit the high end like the 4200's however the much tighter latencies must stand for something. Would 250 2-2-2 with these chips be better than 270 2.5-3-3 on an a64 setup?

Can you guys do some tests on a NFII platform? I would love to see how they do on that as a lot of people still haven't jumped onto a64. Thanks.BH-6 is the best, ill always keep some, theyre just too good

[celemine1Gig]

Posting edited, due to the fact that OCZ deserves some credit for their great findings! ;) :toast:

[jagare]

This RAM is looking very tempting, I'm just curious how much voltage I can put through it with a K8N Neo2 Plat + DDR booster?

[The Stilt]

Hmm...

It seems that Winbond is back in the business?

Those chip look exactly like Winbond chips, so I assume that they are really ones ;)

Found some suspicious (identical) looking chips from Kingston Valueram, so maybe I should test them out :D

[trans am]

I vote OCZ bundles ddr booster and charges $280 for the COMPLETE package.

[SteveOCZ]

I vote OCZ bundles ddr booster and charges $280 for the COMPLETE package.

I vote for that too...but at a lower cost :banana:

[trans am]

WHAT? Thanks guys!

[conrad.maranan]

And for those of us with DDR Boosters, we should be accorded with a $30 discount. :D

[jagare]

Anyone who uses a DDR booster with a Neo2 Plat? Whats the most voltage you can run through your RAM?

[conrad.maranan]

I'm pushing 3.3 to 3.4V on my Platinum Revision 2s.

[Joe Camel]

ive put 3.4V into some G-Skill on an Abit AV8, ("seems" my VTT needs a reboot to track, but does)

[jagare]

I'm pushing 3.3 to 3.4V on my Platinum Revision 2s.
Any mods to the board itself? DDR booster alone doing it?

[conrad.maranan]

Just a DDR Booster by itself. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[SnipingWaste]

Can you tell us who fabed the mem chips? If you can tell us who made them, can you give us the part number from the maker?

[sparkie34]

They are OCZ chips and we are not going to give any more info to the competition than that :)

You guys can play the guessing game but we wont tell :d
...

[SnipingWaste]

...Sorry :( I must of missed that post.

[STEvil]

Should be interesting ;)

[Nanobot]

It would be awesome to see a head to head shootout between BH-5 /BH-6 and the Voltmaster with voltage scaling on different platforms.

I anyone here owning BH-5/BH-6 and who is going to buy Volmaster ,willing and able to do it ?

My guess BH-5 should comeout on top but not by much.

[STEvil]

I've got..

2x512 CH-5 tested to 245 1.5-2-2-10 3.30v (will have to try 0 tras)
2x256 BH-6 tested to 250 1.5/2-2-2-0 3.30v

1:1 and 1T. Cant wait to see if I can get this stuff past 'em :D

[formyfaith]

250~265 on 1G 2-2-2 dual channel?

WOW!

but.. i've got a question.


does this ram do well on high fsbs with lower latencies?
say like between 280~300 with a bit lower latencies.


cause i've seen some stuff that can't go above 280 fsb with lower latencies,
when it still does not do so bad with 2-2-2 timings on lower fsbs.


i mean tccds do high fsbs with lower latencies...
but i wonder if the voltage extreme can also do high fsbs with lower latencies.


if the voltage extreme can only do well on low fsbs with 2-2-2 timings...
also with a lot of voltage..
(i don't mean that 2-2-2 on 265 is low though... but still...)


well.. it's gonna be pretty tricky for me to choose between
a tccd or a voltage extreme...


can you guys tell me how will it do on high fsbs with lower latencies.
maybe there could be some tests made. i would really appreciate it :)

[Playful_Buffalo]

this is looking very nice right now :D

good price too

[abstrakt]

Yet another person wanting to know if this can replicate TCCD results at lower latencies?

[quicksilverXP]

Where can we expect to buy these when they are first released? Excaliber? Monarch? And are you sure they won't be price gouged?

[MaxxxRacer]

These look sweet. I am looking into getting some new memory to go with my neo2 and winnie3200 thats in the mail..

Can you guys do some more testing on the Neo2 platform to see what fsb they max out on?

Also a quick question while I'm here for you ocz guys. Do the 4200EL or the 3200Rev2 clock higher? This will be on the K8N Neo2 939 with winnie3200. Thanks..

[SteveOCZ]

Also a quick question while I'm here for you ocz guys. Do the 4200EL or the 3200Rev2 clock higher? This will be on the K8N Neo2 939 with winnie3200. Thanks..

Do they clock higher than the voltmaster? Yes, but they don't go nearly as high with 2-2-2 timings.

[jagare]

I would like to see some more extensive testing on the Socket 939 platform too, I'm sure alot of others would also. :)

[SteveOCZ]

Early next week a few guys are getting samples and a few have 939 so you will see numbers from people other than us OCZ guys ;)

[jagare]

Early next week a few guys are getting samples and a few have 939 so you will see numbers from people other than us OCZ guys ;)
Excellent, looking forward to it. Are these modules going to come in 2x256 and 2x512? Or just 2x512? If they are coming in both, any idea what the projected prices will be?

[SteveOCZ]

I asked about 2x256 sticks and they said it was possible, but I didn't hear more about it. Is there still a demand for 2x256 sticks? I mean for just about all the new games you need 1 gig of ram......and hey 2x512@250+ with 2-2-2- timings seems pretty good to me :)

[LorD_Kvadd]

Looks very promising!

Although I'll stick to my BH-6 for now I think ;)

I've wondered why no other company has made this kind of voltage loving chips after winbonds bh-5/6.

Superb OCZ! :toast:

[abstrakt]

Also will Europe recieve these at the same time as the USA and Canada?

[wampir]

Where can I get it in USA ???

[Joe Camel]

I asked about 2x256 sticks and they said it was possible, but I didn't hear more about it. Is there still a demand for 2x256 sticks? I mean for just about all the new games you need 1 gig of ram......and hey 2x512@250+ with 2-2-2- timings seems pretty good to me :)

it would come down to matching TOP speeds...ie most here seem to think (know) that 2x256 in a Bench (only) rig does better than 2x512s

its not the cost or how it games, its the TOP performance.

[SteveOCZ]

Well that is why I mentioned it. I said you all here at XS want top speeds for benches and that means 2x256 sticks. I will find our more tmrw about 256MB sticks, but right now we don't have them set for release.

Prices and release dates are still up in the air and I don't have anything to do with them, but what I know is they will be out soon and the price is lower than TCCD. Europe always has to wait a bit longer since shipping out here takes at least a week and then we also have to wait for shops to order. So if you guys want it here sooner rather than later in Europe ask your shops :)

[The Stilt]

OCZ guys: Which revision of Winbond chips are these "voltmasters" using?
E or F?

Spill the beans, because we will figure it out sooner or later :D

[cantankerous]

hehehe

[TEDY]

Bh-tccd

Woot :d

[FX Freak]

i would also this rams 2x512MB:D

[TEDY]

i would also this rams 2x512MB:D

it's something like:

i would also (like to get-buy) this ram......

eh austrians :stick: ;)

[MaxxxRacer]

so, what kind of timmings will these buggers get at 280fsb and 290fsb?

[SteveOCZ]

nvmnd

[TEDY]

yep :)

[Playful_Buffalo]

i never thought i would see the day of a default 3.2v

EDIT: any idea of when it hits places like newegg?

[Tony]

OCZ guys: Which revision of Winbond chips are these "voltmasters" using?
E or F?

Spill the beans, because we will figure it out sooner or later :D

Im sorry to get anoyed here but WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL with what IC's we use...They will be cheaper than TCCD and they clock higher than TCCD at 2-2-2.

All your fueling here is our competition getting the same IC's and releasing a similar product...we ain't tellin and thats final...so please stop asking...ok?

We spend a huge amount of time and money finding IC's etc so you guys have what you need to have fun benching...cut us some slack here m8 and leave it alone a while.......please.

[Tony]

so, what kind of timmings will these buggers get at 280fsb and 290fsb?
I don't think you will see that high :(

I can run 250 on this 875 2-2-2 and 253 2-3-2, going to 3-4-4 didn't gain me 1 fsb higher.

A64 may respond a little better but i don't think by much.

[trans am]

I agree, it's really annoying. Who cares what ic's they use? We have some great ram on our hands. Just support ocz. They deserve some privacy since it's their discovery in the first place. Let them enjoy it while it's still fresh. If you owned a business and had a great idea, would you want all your competitors to know about it?

[MaxxxRacer]

Thanks for the info big toe. Can you let me know how they do in the a64 when you guys get a chance to test in a 939 system. It would be GREATLY appreciated. I will be spending upwards of 250 on ocz memory soon, just dont know which ones, so be assured u have a customer.

Big toe, that is rather odd.. insnaely tight timmings to a max mhz.. and then notta. not one mhz higher no matter what u do. that is some seriously odd behavior. I dont think ive ever seen memory like that.

I have to agree with big toe on this one. Atleast let ocz have a couple of months to sell these things and make some money to help cover research costs before the whores go and start using this stuff. OCZ making more money is ironicly good for us. The more money they make, the better product they can deliver to us. That is assuming that they put the money into R&D, which it seems they do.

[Nanobot]

Im sorry to get anoyed here but WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL with what IC's we use...They will be cheaper than TCCD and they clock higher than TCCD at 2-2-2.

All your fueling here is our competition getting the same IC's and releasing a similar product...we ain't tellin and thats final...so please stop asking...ok?

We spend a huge amount of time and money finding IC's etc so you guys have what you need to have fun benching...cut us some slack here m8 and leave it alone a while.......please.


I agree,we are all getting sick and tired of peeps constantly asking OCZ for the IC's origin.

If a mod comes across this thread*or report the user/thread to them*,I highly suggest to ban(for a week or two) who ever ask's AGAIN about the IC manufacturer OCZ uses for these. :mad:

[Tony]

Thanks for the support here guys :)

We are constantly looking for new IC's even if they may be limited edition as we know the enthusiast is a small part of the big picture but they deserve a huge amount of attention. Im an enthusiast as is Ryan, Steve and Andy...we all love overclocking and getting the best performance we can.

The VM dimms are NOT Ltd Ed as far as i know, things can and do change though just like EB but we all have out fingers crossed.

Just to give you all some background on EB before we released it, Ryan and i had quite a few debates about whether the community could live with a module that clocked well with TRP2 and TRCD at 3 but at high clocks needed cas3, we were worried that you all would be fixated with cas2 and wouldn't see that with a few programming tweaks we could get some incredible speed even with a slower cas lateny, well I advised Ryan you would all see thru the cas2 myth and you all did. Unlucky for us Micron changed the die...we all then lost.

Moving to the VM modules we had similar debates again as it needs juice just to get going, at stock voltage as i quoted before you will be lucky to see 2-3-3 at 200fsb. Now i know many boards do have 3V+ vdimm so many should see some good results from these dimms even without vdimm mods or the booster but you guys ain't afraid of using either to get where you need to be so we decided to release.

I have a feeling most will see ddr500 at 2-2-2 on 939 with enough juice, some will see 260 and a few may see a little higher...after that single channel will be king then a LOT of luck!! even with relaxed timings.

So..I do hope you have a realistic idea from us as to what these modules will do for you...i can't see PC4200 speed from them dual channel but I do see PC4000 and a little higher. If yield improves we may see 4200 speed dual channel but not just yet, not unless your real lucky :)

[MaxxxRacer]

Well then it seems that I will go the way of the 3200 Rev2.

[Geforce4ti4200]

I read all of this and my take is that we finally see an alternative to bh5 and ram that behaives just like bh5 too and is just as good for cheaper. bh5 wont be worth $300+ anymore either. I may still go tccd since the higher fsb makes up for the ras-cas3 timings but it does 280 or so at 2.7 volts which is great for 1:1 action for me. what needs to be done is amd improve their ondie controller so I can use tccd to the max, where it stands, ill probably get about 250fsb with tccd not cause of the rams limit but of the ondie cont. limiting me first :mad:

[bldegle2]

"but of the ondie cont. limiting me first"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

did you test your cpu properly? did you borrow some ram to test the limit of the ondie controller, or are you guessing?

baldy :D

[MaxxxRacer]

LOL baldy, not trusting of ti4200 i see. No one gives 2 cents to what he says... sigh..

[craig588]

On die controllers havn't limited people seince the C0 days.

[Rabbi_NZ]

LOL baldy, not trusting of ti4200 i see. No one gives 2 cents to what he says... sigh..
Give the guy a break man

Not jus directing this at you MaxxxRacer... I've been a member here for a little while now and one constant throughout the time I've spent here is that Geforce4ti4200 always get the sheet taken out of him... seriously guys, cut him some slack...
If someone, not jus Geforce4ti4200 for that matter, says something you dont agree with at least try to correct them in a civil way... i have NEVER seen him get hostile at anyone... maybe a few of you could learn something from him...

That's my 2c worth... sorry to all the OCZ reps for the thread hijack

[jlccarv]

Give the guy a break man

Not jus directing this at you MaxxxRacer... I've been a member here for a little while now and one constant throughout the time I've spent here is that Geforce4ti4200 always get the sheet taken out of him... seriously guys, cut him some slack...
If someone, not jus Geforce4ti4200 for that matter, says something you dont agree with at least try to correct them in a civil way... i have NEVER seen him get hostile at anyone... maybe a few of you could learn something from him...

That's my 2c worth... sorry to all the OCZ reps for the thread hijack

Damn Straight! It takes a boy form down under (albeit NZ :p: ) to say it as it is :up:

Oh yeah, back on topic; all I can say is that, the Voltage Extreme will be my next set of memory!

[conrad.maranan]

On die controllers havn't limited people seince the C0 days.
I beg to differ. I've got a Winchester that clocks pretty well, but has a crap memory controller that limits what I can do with my RAM.

[The Stilt]

Im sorry to get anoyed here but WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL with what IC's we use...They will be cheaper than TCCD and they clock higher than TCCD at 2-2-2.

All your fueling here is our competition getting the same IC's and releasing a similar product...we ain't tellin and thats final...so please stop asking...ok?

We spend a huge amount of time and money finding IC's etc so you guys have what you need to have fun benching...cut us some slack here m8 and leave it alone a while.......please.

Ok, fair enough.
Let´s just hope that there will be enough sticks, to extinguish the demand in europe too ;)

[xgman]

I agree,we are all getting sick and tired of peeps constantly asking OCZ for the IC's origin.

If a mod comes across this thread*or report the user/thread to them*,I highly suggest to ban(for a week or two) who ever ask's AGAIN about the IC manufacturer OCZ uses for these. :mad:

that's rediculous. it's ok to ask when the part #;s are clearly marked on the ic under a spreader, but I can understand with something like this that is ocz branded.

[Nanobot]

Sorry xgman I dont quite understand you point.

Are you saying it's ok to ask a company to give out insider information on it's own intelectual property for the sake of some user's own satisfaction ?

Or are you agreeing with the fact the people who keep asking about the origin of the product are getting to be a P.I.T.A for the rest of us ? :confused:

*Sorry if I seem a little clued out today I'm functioning on 3 hour of sleep*

[ryanpgroovy]

ok guys , I just saw the PR and got the official release dates , shipments should arrive in stores by monday

[Nanobot]

Here it is: !

OCZ PC-3200 Voltage eXtreme Gold Edition (http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2004/116)

[quicksilverXP]

Awesome.. so when will it appear in Excaliber? Did you mean today (Monday) or the Monday after Thanksgiving?

[Nanobot]

And the product page:
OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Gold VX (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_gold_vx)

Rated for 3.5v max, woot!

[jagare]

And the product page:
OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Gold VX (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_gold_vx)

Rated for 3.5v max, woot!
Cool, I wonder how much the 2x512mb set will cost.

[quicksilverXP]

I'm guessing around 260... if it's cheaper than the Rev. 2's. Awesome price if you ask me.

[ryanpgroovy]

MSRP is 249.99 I think

[Nanobot]

Sold! As soon as i can get it that is...

[trans am]

Awesome.. so when will it appear in Excaliber? Did you mean today (Monday) or the Monday after Thanksgiving?

just called excaliber. Monday next week (after thanksgiving) they will probably have them Wednesday. BAM!!!

[conrad.maranan]

Looks like I'll be placing my order on that Monday morning. **Kneels and prays to the OC Gods for a lucky set**

[trans am]

Looks like I'll be placing my order on that Monday morning. **Kneels and prays to the OC Gods for a lucky set**

LMAO! Yes the overclock Gods will be waiting for us all.

[charlie]

....grats to OCZ.... lately they've pulled off PC3200Plat Rev2 TCCD, incredible DDR2 PC4200EB and now this!!!!!

GREAT JOB, GUYS

[TEDY]

trans_am you gonna get this ram ?

[death metal]

ryan/tony/steve/sean/eric/ocz employees, anyway you can make them cheaper here in Asia? ;)...i've been selling this stuff, ordering them from UK or AU or US. it's been pretty expensive for my clients lately, charging them International shipping, then tax, then customs duties and all ;)....i do hope you can identify a reseller already =)...

[Nanobot]

Yeah OCZ needs to get an Asian distributor it's the only world region they dont have an office or distributor yet.

It's a huge market thier missing out on.

[esdee]

Congrats OCZ guys0!whatever ICs you are using its a remarkable effort!:toast:

They will be loved like Winbond ICs did.

Oh by the way im seeing too many similarities in your ICs with winbonds (IC layout similarities)

Just an observation ... i don't ask what chips they are :D

[SteveOCZ]

From what I've heard we have a distro comming in Asian in the next month or so. Things may change but we ARE working on it so hang tight guys. :)

[ryanpgroovy]

SE Asia

http://www.ocz-asia.com/distributors/index.php

Korea

http://www.highnd.com/

Japan

http://www.ocworks.com/


We are still working on mainland china

[mrlobber]

Unbelievable :slobber: I mean, you hardly see any memory chips whose max voltage rating is over 3.5 volts, but this memory has OCZ warranty even if 3.5Vdimm is flowing through them continuously! :worship:

[FX Freak]

@SteveOCZ
you got a new pm:) plz answer:)

[xgman]

Sorry xgman I dont quite understand you point.

Are you saying it's ok to ask a company to give out insider information on it's own intelectual property for the sake of some user's own satisfaction ?

Or are you agreeing with the fact the people who keep asking about the origin of the product are getting to be a P.I.T.A for the rest of us ? :confused:

*Sorry if I seem a little clued out today I'm functioning on 3 hour of sleep*

If you can simply remove the spreaders and see the ic manufacturer, then I said I think it is perfectly ok to ask. In the case of OCZ branded ic, it is their business if they want to tell or not and I wouldn't ask more than once and I don''t blame them for wanting to keep a marketing edge. More power to them! What I was saying is rediculous, is your suggestion for banning people who ask at all. Anyway, no problem, I am a big fan of OCZ but lets face it this thread albeit very interesting, does border on advertising. that said, I have no problem with it and may sample some of this memory myself although I am a bit leary of 24/7 3.3-3.5v using a A64 mem controller.

[Nanobot]

If you can simply remove the spreaders and see the ic manufacturer, then I said I think it is perfectly ok to ask. In the case of OCZ branded ic, it is their business if they want to tell or not and I wouldn't ask more than once and I don''t blame them for wanting to keep a marketing edge. More power to them!

Agreed


What I was saying is rediculous, is your suggestion for banning people who ask at all.

Yes my suggestion seems extreme but i dont think this thread would be readable if it was filled with members asking*thread crapping* to know the ic's origin .



Anyway, no problem, I am a big fan of OCZ but lets face it this thread albeit very interesting, does border on advertising.

Agreed insider info will sometimes look like advertising but that the mods job to decide...
Well the alternative is them sitting in their office and not giving a s**t about the OC comunity like some of the rest of the industry :rolleyes: .


They are making a *possible* BH-5 replament after all, I dont see any other manufacturer with the knowledge who are willing to make the effort.

[ryanpgroovy]

Keep in mind , we try to be very carefull about going to far ( on the advertising issue )
we step carefully. Keep it to interesting benches ect , if people like I can avoid mentioning what products I am using and just post my cool benches



I have noticed another company posting things that seem much more like ads. ( for example product comparisons posted by one of the companyes reps ).

So all in all we seem pretty mild

[Tony]

Keep in mind , we try to be very carefull about going to far ( on the advertising issue )
we step carefully. Keep it to interesting benches ect , if people like I can avoid mentioning what products I am using and just post my cool benches



I have noticed another company posting things that seem much more like ads. ( for example product comparisons posted by one of the companyes reps ).

So all in all we seem pretty mild

Plus we have the awesome mod aquad here at Xtreme watching our every move...if we go to far they let us know ;)

[krampak]

There is a pre-order here in spain:

http://tig-spain.com/modules.php?name=catalog&file=product_info&cPath=22_26&products_id=105

Available in 4 desember. 294'12€, so 367$ (of course in usa it will be cheaper...)

[death metal]

tnx for the info ryan...=)..it's still gonna cost me an arm and a leg though as getting them anywhere outside of my country will still incur int'l s&h, tax, customs, etc. ;) hehehehe...but hey, i understand there's no market here in PH except for a select few people like me and my friends =)...but Corsair, Kingston, Geil are all selling top-end ram here ;)...for other brands, we have TwinMos hehe...I wish OCZ will be here in PH as well soon...my credit card is always hitting the limit getting OCZ rams abroad :banana: :D :banana: :D


SE Asia

http://www.ocz-asia.com/distributors/index.php

Korea

http://www.highnd.com/

Japan

http://www.ocworks.com/


We are still working on mainland china

[perkam]

I want to know why G unit didnt couldn't get G skill to use platinum heatspreaders in this ad. I mean where's the Bling bling?

ROFL...Thats the first time I've heard Platinum Heat Spreaders being referred to as Bling Bling LOL :p: :p: :p:

Perkam

[conrad.maranan]

Oh, man. That image made me crack up. I just had to show my co-workers. Of course, they don't get it. :lol:

[perkam]

I said dont flame me ppl and it WAS an honest question, I was asking for a show of hands, not a show of fists....Sheesh :mad:

Sorry to derail the thread :(

[conrad.maranan]

"...offensive post here..."
This is not a very intelligent question. It's bad enough this thread is going down in smoke. You might as well make the most of it and delete your post.

[trans am]

OK, guys, I'm removing all my posts, it's bad enough that I'm crapping the ocz thread(with my humor) but I never intended this to turn into a racial issue. sorry Ryan.

[Nanobot]

Could anyone at OCZ show us the VX's max frequency at say... 2.5-3-3-7 or something similar with a bandwith screenie(everest,memtest ...) .

The reason I'm asking is that I'm having second thought about the VX now that I know a new CPU past week 33 with a better mem controller will unleash my 3200 rev2 plat.

EDIT:Like Trans am I deleted my pervious post not relevant to this thread,I encourage other members to do the same;let's keep this thread on topic!

[xgman]

don't know if these user experience posts have been posted here yet, but worth a look:

http://www.truextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35033
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11944434~mode=flat?r=329

[Torin]

Holy crap, 2x512MB DC @ 270Mhz 2-2-2-7. I wonder if it's 1T....

[trans am]

Dude if that's 1t that will kill tccd at 300mhz 2.5-3-3. Superpis score will be lower with 2-2-2@270 1T I'm almost certain.

[SteveOCZ]

It's 1T.....you wouldn't get numbers like that at 2T :)

[trans am]

It's 1T.....you wouldn't get numbers like that at 2T :)

I can't wait to see some benches with the 2-2-2 at 270 vs. 2.5-3-3-7 @ 300mhz. Any idea how much difference in something like super pi or 2001se? I can't wait to test it.

[conrad.maranan]

So OCZ PC3200 Gold VX is the official name for this product? Now I know what to look out for.

[Torin]

Well, this is certainly new territory for DDR. Even BH-5 couldn't get near 270MHz with 2 512MB sticks in DC @ 1T, even using 3.9V.

[ar7786]

don't know if these user experience posts have been posted here yet, but worth a look:

http://www.truextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35033
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11944434~mode=flat?r=329

Too bad it's not good for intel system.

[Playful_Buffalo]

Impressive A64 results :D

[FX Freak]

very nice results:) the new better bh5:D

[agenda2005]

I said dont flame me ppl and it WAS an honest question, I was asking for a show of hands, not a show of fists....Sheesh :mad:

Sorry to derail the thread :(

My post is removed because of the maturity shown by others and the respect I have for OCZ.

[RacerX]

I can't wait to see some benches with the 2-2-2 at 270 vs. 2.5-3-3-7 @ 300mhz. Any idea how much difference in something like super pi or 2001se? I can't wait to test it.

Not quite what your looking for but you can get a good idea anyways........

Corsair XMS3500 rev1.1 bh-5 10x260 2-2-8-2-1t
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/corsair.jpg

OCZ PC3200EL Plat. rev2 TCCD 10x260 2-3-8-3-1t
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/OCZ.jpg



Sorry can't go any higher than 2.65 with my 3400dtr and has a crappy memory controller to boot. When I had my 3200+NC CG I tested my bh-5 at 10x270 2-2-8-2-1t against TCCD at 9x300 2.5-3-8-3-1t and the TCCD came out on top.

Here's OCZ PC3200EL Plat rev2 TCCD 9x288 2.5-3-8-3-1t
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/OCZ2.jpg

[Ubermann]

That was one small difference.
Is it really that small ??
Intressting.

[RacerX]

That was one small difference.
Is it really that small ??
Intressting.

I'll be honest my DFI board is really weird. I mean when I bench between 260-275htt I basically get the same performance, its not until I go over 280htt where the board really begins to shine.

I think the 939 chipset will benefit running 2-2-?-2 1t compared to 754. Then again with all the testing I've done it really seems the NF3 chipset doesn't really take advantage of ultra tight timings.

I easily prefer 9x300 relax over 10x270 tight on my DFI.

[trans am]

Thanks, very interesting indeed.

[BeSaiD]

i'm following the thread since the first day, but today i've been accepted as a forum user and this is my first post :D

I'm looking forward to have them in Spain as soon as possible :P Any date or something like that of distribution in Europe?

thank you

PS: I will perform my english writing here, so please, forgive my writing errors :P

[ryanpgroovy]

The shipments are already on the way to europe , best thing is to check with your local retailer for the arrival date

[BeSaiD]

:( :( :(

¡Disponible el 4 de Diciembre! (on sale on december 4th)
PC-3200 Dual Gold Voltage eXtreme 2x512MB
[OCZ4001024EL] 348.00EUR (348.00 Euro = 458.860 USD)


A bit (a huge bit :P) over my possibilites... I almost buy 4x512 at the USA for the same price...

Thank you.

[bachus_anonym]

That was one small difference.
Is it really that small ??
Intressting.
little bit OT here, but wanted to point out that 170 3dmarks difference is quite significant.
to give you an idea... on my AXP-M with BH-5 difference between 251x10 (2515Mhz) and 251x11 (2765) is 300 3dmarks. memory bandwidth difference between x10 and x11 is only ~1%.
in other words for every 100Mhz increase on CPU i get 120 3dmarks...
i would say that IT IS A LOT!

[ryanpgroovy]

I have no clue why the heck there charging that much

Thats 200 dollars over MSRP,

Can you direct me to the retailer so we can tell them to get the price in line with reality

[STEvil]

EDIT - BENCHMARKS!!

Just got back from the "post office"

Quick results (less than an hour of playing)

9x250.82mhz / 3.30v / 1:1 / 1T / 2800+ Clawhammer / DFI Lanparty-UT 10/15 4.0vdimm with OCZ Memtest 1.00 / 2x512 OCZ Voltage Extreme

Everest Read / write / latency
1.5-2-2-0 --- 3816 / 1432 / 41.4
1.5-2-2-5 --- 3824 / 1436 / 42.3
1.5-2-2-10 -- 3818 / 1437 / 42.3
2-2-2-0 ----- 3847 / 1575 / 41.5
2-2-2-5 ----- 3848 / 1579 / 41.6
2-2-2-10 ---- 3846 / 1576 / 41.5
2.5-2-2-0 --- 3824 / 1454 / 42.8
2.5-2-2-5 --- 3821 / 1442 / 42.8
2.5-2-2-10 -- 3815 / 1442 / 42.8
3-2-2-0 ----- 3797 / 1424 / 46.3
3-2-2-5 ----- 3804 / 1408 / 46.4
3-2-2-10 ---- 3809 / 1400 / 46.3

Sisoft Buffered

1.5-2-2-0 --- 3834/3834
1.5-2-2-5 --- 3835/3834
1.5-2-2-10 -- 3834/3834
2-2-2-0 ----- 3830/3830
2-2-2-5 ----- 3831/3830
2-2-2-10 ---- 3831/3831
2.5-2-2-0 --- 3828/3828
2.5-2-2-5 --- 3827/3827
2.5-2-2-10 -- 3827/3826
3-2-2-0 ----- 3835/3830
3-2-2-5 ----- 3832/3833
3-2-2-10 ---- 3833/3833

Sisoft Unbuffered

1.5-2-2-0 --- 2257/2299
1.5-2-2-5 --- 2249/2293
1.5-2-2-10 -- 2237/2278
2-2-2-0 ----- 2165/2225
2-2-2-5 ----- 2180/2227
2-2-2-10 ---- 2191/2242
2.5-2-2-0 --- 2191/2246
2.5-2-2-5 --- 2191/2244
2.5-2-2-10 -- 2185/2244
3-2-2-0 ----- 2143/2208
3-2-2-5 ----- 2154/2208
3-2-2-10 ---- 2138/2208

EDIT

Think I just killed the OS.. goes to load windows and then BSOD comes up with unmountable drive or something.. if you know a quick fix post it here or pm me, i'm gonna go eat ;)

EDIT

Benchmarks updated!!!! Thats a lot of benches to pull off.. i'm all benched out for the night I think :slobber: Nearly pulled a 38s super_pi 1M @ 1.5-2-2-0 with 9x250.82.. not bad for under 2300mhz and no tweaking beyond cas/trcd/trp/tras hm?

[Rabbi_NZ]

Awesome idea STEvil, once you get through with prelim testing of the VX could you compare to your BH6 & CH5 in the same post?

[STEvil]

ch-5 (2x512) tops at 245 1.5-2-2-0 3.3v, bh-6 (2x256) tops at 250 1.5-2-2-0 3.3v

Looks like i'll have to reinstall windows I guess. :D

Should learn to use ghost or whatever it is..

[Schaef]

Good work ocz. Nice to see your giving something back to the enthusiast overclocking/gamers which is priced well and is ment to have it balls clocked off. Hopefully products like this will show more of the online community that overclocking is safe and can give great results which many of the people who I play with wont think about overclocking and think of it as stupid :S

Also there was alot of talk about the mem controller of the a64s and that giving the mem to much voltage would kill the cpu. I never saw a post that answers the question. Do any of the ocz guys know if putting 3.5 volts into the mem will damage the a64 or is this a whole lot of bs.

[ryanpgroovy]

We do it here with no bad results yet , but we seldom run more that 3.3 for days on end

[nutcase]

Holy crap, 2x512MB DC @ 270Mhz 2-2-2-7. I wonder if it's 1T....

yes it was at 1T..(that was me that ran that benchmark).. Still trying to get the cpu stable at 2700 Mhz though.. :cool: :D

[STEvil]

Seems my bench drive is cooked.. gonna miss that little 4gb 10k scsi. I'll have to pick up a hdd in town tomarrow.

Will play with memtest and keep you guys updated with what they can do there I guess ;)

[nutcase]

well, Took mine to 285 FSB...

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Winchester 3500+
2x512Mb OCZ PC3200 Gold edition VX @ 2-2-2-7 1T and 3.5V
OCZ DDR booster
OCZ Powerstream 520W Psu

Air cooled with XP90 and panaflo 92mm..

And if you are wondering why I am using 9.5X Multi... Blasted system will not run at 9X with this ram for some reason..

[iboomalot]

Thats some great info and looks like I will be keeping my 3700EB since my ASUS
won't go over the magical 3.0v needed.


but its nice to know this will be avil when I get a better OCers mobo if and when a
decent s939 mobo comes to the market.



while I was typing this the above post appeared.

Has the bugs been worked out of the MSI mobos??

and would I see a big gain over my OCZ 3700eb when its at 3.3v+ vs the VX

[nutcase]

Thats some great info and looks like I will be keeping my 3700EB since my ASUS
won't go over the magical 3.0v needed.


but its nice to know this will be avil when I get a better OCers mobo if and when a
decent s939 mobo comes to the market.



while I was typing this the above post appeared.

Has the bugs been worked out of the MSI mobos??

and would I see a big gain over my OCZ 3700eb when its at 3.3v+ vs the VX

I have both the MSI and the A8V...

The MSI overclocks much better But the A8V is a much more stable motherboard..

[STEvil]

memtest is clean so far at 1.5-2-2-0 250mhz 3.3v

Have tried 3 bios reflashes, still cant get past 3.3v to mem.

[Playful_Buffalo]

:eek:
better than expected by 1.5 do you mean CAS 1.5?

[STEvil]

yes, CAS 1.5.

[trans am]

well, Took mine to 285 FSB...

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Winchester 3500+
2x512Mb OCZ PC3200 Gold edition VX @ 2-2-2-7 1T and 3.5V
OCZ DDR booster
OCZ Powerstream 520W Psu

Air cooled with XP90 and panaflo 92mm..

And if you are wondering why I am using 9.5X Multi... Blasted system will not run at 9X with this ram for some reason..


Dude I must have had too many beers! Somebody pinch me! Did I just see 2x512 do 2-2-2 @285mhz? this is getting out of control! Never have I seen a screen of 2x512 at this speed at 2-2-2 timings. OCZ IS FVCKING AMAZING!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19854

[jagare]

With an Allied 500W PSU, will I be able to do 3.5v with a Neo2 out of the box with a OCZ DDR Booster?

[Playful_Buffalo]

how are your rails holding up now?

[trans am]

With an Allied 500W PSU, will I be able to do 3.5v with a Neo2 out of the box with a OCZ DDR Booster?


Man I still can't get over that 285 2-2-2 screen. What were you saying?

[nutcase]

With an Allied 500W PSU, will I be able to do 3.5v with a Neo2 out of the box with a OCZ DDR Booster?

you should be able to.. The DDR booster does not use 3.3V for the Vdimm but uses 5V... Don't know how well the PSU will handle the load though as I have never used an Allied PSU..

[quicksilverXP]

Trans Am... you're running the half-multi.. so it's actually less than 285... still awesome though..

[trans am]

Trans Am... you're running the half-multi.. so it's actually less than 285... still awesome though..
You're right... I missed that.
ok so 270.75mhz at 2-2-2!!!!!!!! that's still sick for 2x512!

[nutcase]

You're right... I missed that.
ok so 270.75mhz at 2-2-2!!!!!!!! that's still sick for 2x512!

Yep.. The .5 Multi's are funny.. But able to run at 273 FSB at 9X Multi...

Time to run some Memtest runs and burn the Ram in
:toast:

[quicksilverXP]

how'd you guys get the sticks so early?

[TEDY]

i think i pissed my pants seing 2*512 270!!! :D

[SteveOCZ]

how'd you guys get the sticks so early?

They are our beta testing team. No better way to test out ram than sending to to some crazy overclockers like these guys :toast:

[bias_hjorth]

How do you get on that team :hehe:

Very good numbers for 2 x 512mb :toast:

[ArcTan]

They are our beta testing team. No better way to test out ram than sending to to some crazy overclockers like these guys :toast:no wonder eva2000's got some
:p:

[BeSaiD]

They are our beta testing team. No better way to test out ram than sending to to some crazy overclockers like these guys :toast:

What do I have to do to be a Beta tester? I would be as happy as this banana ---> :banana:

:D:D:D:D

Thank you.

[cantankerous]

I just hope all the sticks that are purchaseable hold up this well. It's been stated 250 is easy but anything over is a maybe. With my luck I will get the 250 spot on and nothing more.

Do any of you beta testers have an NFII board to test with? I know the chipset on those boards don't hold up as well with dual sticks but still curious. I don't have a A64 setup until DFI comes out with their 939 board but would like to get these sticks to use on my LPB board until then. When I get the board and cpu in the new year I will already the ram if it can hold up in my current system until then.

[SteveOCZ]

Well this is getting interesting. Just 3.35V and that was memtested for 30mins

http://www.spec3.net/dfi/267.jpg
http://www.spec3.net/dfi/267read.jpg
http://www.spec3.net/dfi/267write.jpg
http://www.spec3.net/dfi/everestlatency267.jpg

[Rancidelephant]

Nice single channel scores there!

is that 1x512 or 2x256?

do i remember you saying there wasnt a 256mb part? or was that just me ?

[eva2000]

What do I have to do to be a Beta tester? I would be as happy as this banana ---> :banana:

:D:D:D:D

Thank you.
let's see

1. divorce your wife
2. dump your girlfriend
3. give up your 1st, 2nd and 3rd born children
4. castrate yourself

should prevent you from all other distractions to dedicate your life to memory testing :)

j/k but close enough :D

[cantankerous]

Wow, very impressive. 267 stable 2-2-2. My gosh. I hope my sticks can do that when I get them.

Steve, do you think most sticks should be able to reproduce what you posted?

[eva2000]

Wow, very impressive. 267 stable 2-2-2. My gosh. I hope my sticks can do that when I get them.

Steve, do you think most sticks should be able to reproduce what you posted?
FYI, 30 mins memtest I wouldn't call stable... but an indicator of what they are capable of doing

[reject]

the read is worse than mine but that write is unbeliveable! latency is ok too
hey someone form ocz:
most places sell R2 for about 550, but i saw on one site they have it for 460!
so will VX be cheaper? its not in any of the places listed on the ocz site

[iboomalot]

I don't understand why is 30min not good enough???

some people I see prime stable for like 48 hrs or a week or month.

at what point has a ram been tested long enough??? Heat will max out at a certain amount of time.

[reject]

overnight running std test OR test 5 is stable
prime, well, i dont have much luck with prime. i try not to run it so it doesnt spoil my fun!

[cantankerous]

hehehe.

Test 8 is much more strenous than 5. It takes a long time to complete each pass too.

Say, pretty cool theme you have going there reject. Love how the quicklaunch is up top. Which theme is this?

[WxChaser]

let's see

1. divorce your wife
2. dump your girlfriend
3. give up your 1st, 2nd and 3rd born children
4. castrate yourself

should prevent you from all other distractions to dedicate your life to memory testing :)

j/k but close enough :D

Damn that's funny George! And...mostly true. I think Ryan already has my left nut,lol (j/k) ;)

[SteveOCZ]

Yup I looped test #8 4 times after 2 full loops of 1-7

[eva2000]

I don't understand why is 30min not good enough???

some people I see prime stable for like 48 hrs or a week or month.

at what point has a ram been tested long enough??? Heat will max out at a certain amount of time.
you were saying ?

http://www.fileshosts.com/memory/memtest86_plus/examples1/web/memtest_005.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/memory/memtest86_plus/examples1/web/memtest_002.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/memory/memtest86_plus/examples1/web/memtest_004.jpg

My regular memtest procedure http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=6 that i used for BH-5 ram (above 3 pics) and all my memory.. 30 mins :p:

[GoriLLakoS]

heeeeey.....when they will be out for sale at on-line shops?????? I can't wait any more....

[LikwidKool]

Great results guy's. I was not expecting them to run so well.

damn, sucks I was late on requesting these. Would have loved to play with them on my systems. Oh well.

[Firefoxx]

Nice results, very impressive... Tom Holck showed what these chips are able to do, wonder if 300 2-2-2-x will be possible...

[cantankerous]

maybe with 5v.

[Firefoxx]

maybe with 5v.

I bet some japanese will try it with LN2 Cooling...
Hmm...what about heat? do you cool them @ 3,4V?

[cantankerous]

anything around 3.3v+ on BH should be cooled but you know what? I have heard nothing about these chips being cooled in any of the posts. Do these chips hold up better to excessive heat with no worries or are they too a priority to be cooled?

[GoriLLakoS]

i will ask again.....when they ill be ready for sale???

[nutcase]

anything around 3.3v+ on BH should be cooled but you know what? I have heard nothing about these chips being cooled in any of the posts. Do these chips hold up better to excessive heat with no worries or are they too a priority to be cooled?

I am using an XP90 right now which is blowing air right down onto the Dimms and they are staying very cool at 3.6V...

But I think I broke my DDR booster.. it won't hold a stable Vdimm right now :rolleyes:

[nutcase]

i will ask again.....when they ill be ready for sale???

you should be seeing them in the US next week.. ExcaliberPC shows them on 11/30/04...

http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=4343

[cantankerous]

They are available here in Canada Dec. 3.

as for the booster breaking? I am hearing nothing but about these breaking, with extra cooling or not. Makes me wonder if I should even get one.

[nutcase]

They are available here in Canada Dec. 3.

as for the booster breaking? I am hearing nothing but about these breaking, with extra cooling or not. Makes me wonder if I should even get one.


found the problem with mine.. it was overheating.. threw an extra fan onto it and it is now running stable..

[TEDY]

mmmmm wonder how it works in NF2 ?

[nutcase]

Ok.. Ran some Benchies at 265x10... same as before But I used 3.6V.. This seems to be the sweet spot for my system (Until I get my Phase change fixed)..

Note: 3Dmark01 was run with a stock Ati saphire X800 pro (no overclocking)..

[cantankerous]

wow, very impressive. 28k. I can't get a single bit over 23k with my setup. I cant wait to get a 939 setup with this ram. If I could clear 30k with my X800XT I would be exstatic.

[blinky]

is this ram going to be released in 2x256 variety as well?

[TEDY]

Ok.. Ran some Benchies at 265x10... same as before But I used 3.6V.. This seems to be the sweet spot for my system (Until I get my Phase change fixed)..

Note: 3Dmark01 was run with a stock Ati saphire X800 pro (no overclocking)..


265*10 1T ?

[agor]

when will they be in germany? cant find them anywhere

[nutcase]

265*10 1T ?

Yep...

Been Playing and the best I can get is 280x9 @ 2.5-3-3-7 1T..

[TEDY]

NO WAY ?!!!!!!!!!!!

280 real MHz ?

[nutcase]

NO WAY ?!!!!!!!!!!!

280 real MHz ?

yep.. running Memtest right now..

[SteveOCZ]

alternate.de has them for special order if you guys need them in EU

Pretty decent price for EU standards
http://www3.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=IAIDN9&

[Ol!ver]

Hi

Has anyone found somewhere here in England that's going to stock them?

I might have missed this somewhere in the thread, and appologies if I have, but what do these act like at lower voltages, say 2.9v ?

Cheers

Oli

[Soulburner]

Hi

Has anyone found somewhere here in England that's going to stock them?

I might have missed this somewhere in the thread, and appologies if I have, but what do these act like at lower voltages, say 2.9v ?

Cheers

Oli
Think Winbond BH memory...it doesn't do much at low volts...

[Ol!ver]

Think Winbond BH memory...it doesn't do much at low volts...

Cheers for the reply, and from a fellow Englishman :D

Anyways, I know BH doesnt kick in till you get high volts, but it aint bad at low. I'm running bh6 now, 225mhz, 2-3-2-11 at 2.9v, wondered what the state of play is with this VX.

Cheers again

Oli

[blinky]

Think Winbond BH memory...it doesn't do much at low volts...my bh6 does 235-240 on 2.9v

[van Basten]

NO WAY ?!!!!!!!!!!!

280 real MHz ?


What' so special about 2,5-3-3-7 1T @ 280 ? TCCD can do that at 2,7V.. :rolleyes:

[sparkie34]

is this ram going to be released in 2x256 variety as well?


Website only shows 512mb sticks or 2x512mb kits.

[reject]

hey someone from ocz:
most places sell R2 for about 550, but i saw on one site they have it for 460!
so will VX be cheaper than that? its not in any of the places listed on the ocz site, not even mentioned
???

[longshot]

how hot do these modules run at 3.3v - 3.5v

[eva2000]

on my 2.8C/P4C800-E rev2.0 with 1019.04 bios

Cooling
- 2x 60x25mm memory module length wise diagonally placed on top of memory modules
- 1X 80x25mm sunon 39cfm fan placed over front side of OCZ DDR Booster unit

I attached 2 thermal probes to side of the modules' heat spreaders (middle of heat spreader) and

@ 3.3v vdimm
dimm 1 module looping test #5 = 28C
dimm 3 module looping test #5 = 30C (dimm3 has always run hotter for my P4C800-E boards)

@ 3.4v vdimm - @220mhz 2-2-2-6
dimm 1 module looping test #5 = 29.9C
dimm 3 module looping test #5 = 32.9C

@ 3.5v vdimm @ 228mhz 2-2-2-6 - test #5 looped for 2hrs 10+ mins for 154 passes error free
dimm 1 module looping test #5 = 30.4C
dimm 3 module looping test #5 = 34.9C

Highest temp i've seen is 34.9C and that was on dimm 3 slot which is always hotter than any other dimm slot on my P4C800-E

Without cooling, easily see 38-44C at 3.3v

[Revv23]

sorry ocz i was going to wait but mushkin re-released their BH-5 lvII memory so i got some of that, impulse took control of me :(

[longshot]

OCZ should make a cooling device to go over modules like the one Abit made for that dumb Fat1lity board

[STEvil]

this thread moves fast :D

Got a hdd, will hopefully have time to set it up tomarrow and complete the benches I started yesterday :D

[agor]

alternate.de has them for special order if you guys need them in EU

Pretty decent price for EU standards
http://www3.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=IAIDN9&
thank you ;)

[cinders]

Well I'll be selling my OCZ 4200-EL Platinum (I just got) for some of these babies!... : )

[TEDY]

cinders gimme :>