GSKILL PC4400 TCCD at CAS2.0

[kakaroto]

I read the topic about high voltages on TCCD memory, so i tested with CAS2.0. And it worked!! :D

It seems that the TCCD memory dont like high voltages with high timings, i get lots of errors with CAS2.5 @3V and zero with CAS2.0 @3V.
So lowering the CAS latency gave me the oppertunity to play with more Vddr. :)

Great discovery i guess..

Here some screens with info 2-3-3-7 3.0v

3400+ AX
DFI Lanparty
2x 512MB GSKILL PC4400 " TCCD 431"

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4400/255MHz_1024MB_CAS2.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4400/260MHz_1024MB_CAS2.JPG
:toast: :toast:

[overcrash86]

have you try with CAS 1.5 or CAS 1 ?

My PC2700 noname ,go up more with CAS 1.5 or CAS 1 ,i don't know why ,but it go over 270 with 1.5 and only to 263 with CAS 2

[Playful_Buffalo]

Nice! did more or less voltage effect the Cas2 at those speeds?

[Geforce4ti4200]

too bad cas latency does not matter on a64. My friend rukkor sure will be supprised though, he says no ram will do cas 1.5 over 166fsb. what I really am interested in, has anyone gotten ras-cas1? like 2-1-1-7 timings?

[AcEmAsTr]

have you try with CAS 1.5 or CAS 1 ?

My PC2700 noname ,go up more with CAS 1.5 or CAS 1 ,i don't know why ,but it go over 270 with 1.5 and only to 263 with CAS 2



This guy hasn't got a clue lol

[Firelord-OCHW]

too bad cas latency does not matter on a64. My friend rukkor sure will be supprised though, he says no ram will do cas 1.5 over 166fsb. what I really am interested in, has anyone gotten ras-cas1? like 2-1-1-7 timings?

And this guy does.... :rolleyes:

If cas doesn't matter then why does everyone strive for cas 2 on A64... :confused:

Riggghhhttttt....

[RacerX]

And this guy does.... :rolleyes:

If cas doesn't matter then why does everyone strive for cas 2 on A64... :confused:

Riggghhhttttt....

Actually cas2 or 2.5 really doesn't matter on my DFI. I've tested cas2-3-3-5-1t and cas2.5-3-3-5-1t and noticed no difference. If anything 2.5 actually gave me higher 3dmarks. Of course maybe my DFI doesn't take advantage of cas2.

I have some bh-5 chips coming on Tuesday so looking at some 270htt 2-2-2-5-1t action to compare with.

[WolfF]

kakaroto you are so lucky, have best BH5 I ever seen, now these superb TCCD; congrats m8 :D

[Firelord-OCHW]

Actually cas2 or 2.5 really doesn't matter on my DFI. I've tested cas2-3-3-5-1t and cas2.5-3-3-5-1t and noticed no difference. If anything 2.5 actually gave me higher 3dmarks. Of course maybe my DFI doesn't take advantage of cas2.

I have some bh-5 chips coming on Tuesday so looking at some 270htt 2-2-2-5-1t action to compare with.

I found I lost a chunk of bandwidth at CAS2.5 with my BH-5 on a k8N neo (at 1T) and was the diff between smooth and jerky in some games

My DFI won't evem boot @ 2.5!

[blinky]

I found I lost a chunk of bandwidth at CAS2.5 with my BH-5 on a k8N neo (at 1T) and was the diff between smooth and jerky in some games

My DFI won't evem boot @ 2.5!no.... you didnt, it may just seem that way but u didnt lose a chunk of bandwidth

[niaboc79]

too bad cas latency does not matter on a64. My friend rukkor sure will be supprised though, he says no ram will do cas 1.5 over 166fsb. what I really am interested in, has anyone gotten ras-cas1? like 2-1-1-7 timings?

I'm using my bh5 @ 270 1.5 2 2 1 7 12 1T in dual

[Firelord-OCHW]

no.... you didnt, it may just seem that way but u didnt lose a chunk of bandwidth

No because I didn't test it to make sure that it didn't make a difference so I could just come out with BS!

I did my testing (SANDRA, AIDA32, 3D'01SE and 3D'03) and there was deffinetly a noticable difference in all.

So yes I am right thank you

:rolleyes:

[Jack]

kakaroto, is your mem stable at 260MHz or is it just screenshot stable?

and what kind of bandwidth are you getting at 260MHz 2-3-3-7?

great find tho' :toast:

[Ubermann]

My TCCD does 275 with 2-3-3 at 3.5 volt.
But its only cas 2 that like that volt.

http://ruff.se/files/etc/pub/upload/2-3-3m.gif

[Formann]

No because I didn't test it to make sure that it didn't make a difference so I could just come out with BS!

I did my testing (SANDRA, AIDA32, 3D'01SE and 3D'03) and there was deffinetly a noticable difference in all.

So yes I am right thank you

:rolleyes:


With my BH5:

AN50R cas2.5 to cas2 yields NO difference
K8NS cas2.5 to cas2 yields NO difference
K8NS Ultra939 cas2.5 to cas2 yields NO difference (Except cas2 gives higher clocks)

A lot of ppl have confirmed that cas2 or 2.5 makes no difference in performance on A64. Are you sure you diddn´t change any other settings? Same thing with Intel P4 actually. VERY small/No difference.




So yes I am right thank you


LOL

You should try to be a bit more humle. No one likes a smartass.

[kakaroto]

Nice! did more or less voltage effect the Cas2 at those speeds?

more voltage gives better stability with CAS2.


too bad cas latency does not matter on a64. My friend rukkor sure will be supprised though, he says no ram will do cas 1.5 over 166fsb. what I really am interested in, has anyone gotten ras-cas1? like 2-1-1-7 timings?

hahaha, your very funny guy! 2-1-1-7. You can be to optimistic about TCCD.
A64 do like low latency, especialy in 3dmark and superPI/Pifast.
The differency is not much, but he thats the purpose of tweaking dude.



kakaroto you are so lucky, have best BH5 I ever seen, now these superb TCCD; congrats m8 :D

Thanks, :toast:


kakaroto, is your mem stable at 260MHz or is it just screenshot stable?

and what kind of bandwidth are you getting at 260MHz 2-3-3-7?

great find tho' :toast:

260Mhz is just some screen yet. with 250MHz it get 0 errors in memtest, but 255~260..10K..maybe it need some higher voltages...


My TCCD does 275 with 2-3-3 at 3.5 volt.
But its only cas 2 that like that volt.

IMAGE

Woow thats awesome, try some higher voltage then. (I still using the 3.1v bios of the DFI)
What is the 24/7 voltage limit of TCCD?

[$0m#0n#]

I think 3.2-3.3V?

[YoupY]

I've tried the cas2 setting myself but I got only like DDR500 Mhz with 2.85V. (2.0-3-3-7-1T-DC). Since I've got the 437 TCCD ships on my GSkill this may not work as wel for me as it does for Kakaroto.

After that I tried runnning @ cas2.5, also with 2.85V and timings set at 2.5-3-3-7-1T Dual Channel also.

That got me this result:

http://members.home.nl/youpy/cas25_highvolt_small.jpg (http://members.home.nl/youpy/cas25_highvolt.jpg)
*Clickable*

So maybe the 437 chips like cas2.5 and high volt better :confused:

Can anybody confirm this??

[krampak]

I get higher clocks at 2'7V than 2'85V.. now 280 2'5-3-3 1T at 2'7V (http://usuarios.lycos.es/krampak/Benchs/8049.JPG) wich gives me 8K mb/s.

PD: Geil Ultra X PC3200, unknow TCCD revision.

[LANjack]

Can we get some good pictures of the chip numbers :D

[p4z1f1st]

too bad cas latency does not matter on a64. My friend rukkor sure will be supprised though, he says no ram will do cas 1.5 over 166fsb. what I really am interested in, has anyone gotten ras-cas1? like 2-1-1-7 timings?


he's simply right.....it doesn't effect apps nor games more then 1-2%....

[kakaroto]

Can we get some good pictures of the chip numbers :D

these are the modules:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4400/Gskill_pc4400.jpg

[LANjack]

431 and F as I suspected!

Thanks for the photos and confirmation. :D

[kakaroto]

today i tested with 3.2v and higher, it gave me NO improvement.

250MHz 2.9v 2-3-3-7 = 0 errors in memtest
255Mhz 2.9v~3.3v = 10000 errors in memtest

Controller problem? i think so...

[bacon]

cool, just ordered some of this kit from excaliberpc.com

Should be here by end of week to me in the UK :)

was guna get some OCZ 4200 but in Uk will costa bomb and excaliber wont sell it to me with paypal as its $2 over the limit and not paying fees for a transfer

So got some Gskill coming at £178inc (same price as crucial ballistix (sp) here in the UK)

Dam cheap hpefully get good uns

[Jaan]

... My friend rukkor sure will be supprised though, he says no ram will do cas 1.5 over 166fsb...?
how's about Dual DDR540@CL1,5? :p:
2x256MB BH5/3,7V CL1,5-2-2-5-11-13-1T
pifast (http://www.hot.ee/winchester/DDR540@CL1,5.PNG)
SuperPi 1M (http://www.hot.ee/winchester/DDR540@CL1,5-Superpi1M.PNG)
mem bandwith (http://www.hot.ee/winchester/everest-mem%20270x10CL1,5.PNG)
mem latency (http://www.hot.ee/winchester/everest-mem-lat%20270x10CL1,5.PNG)
:D

[burnhead]

hey, where in :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing europe can i get the 4400 2-3-3-7 gskillz?
Do the 2-4-4-7 gskillz also work as good as th one´s of kakaroto?

@kakaroto: how long do they last? when do they begin to smoke and smell? can you REALLY give them 3,3V!?

btw. does anybody know links to the vdroop mod, vdd mod and vcore mod and any other mods for the AV8 ABIT?

are they also able to do that in dualchannel??

[Geforce4ti4200]

I may be wrong sometimes, but this time I am right, cas 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3 matters pratically none on a64s. The only timing that does is ras-cas delay! The reason people pay for good ram is they want the ras-cas of 2 which cheap ram can NOT do. Additionally, good ram can do ras-cas3 at very high fsb. Is gskill rated for 275fsb? pc4400=275 at 2.5-3-3-7 and yes ras-cas3! I see alot of people that cant even run stock, probably cpu limiting you before the ram does, may be an ondie controller limitation.

[bias_hjorth]

I may be wrong sometimes, but this time I am right, cas 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3 matters pratically none on a64s. The only timing that does is ras-cas delay! The reason people pay for good ram is they want the ras-cas of 2 which cheap ram can NOT do. Additionally, good ram can do ras-cas3 at very high fsb. Is gskill rated for 275fsb? pc4400=275 at 2.5-3-3-7 and yes ras-cas3! I see alot of people that cant even run stock, probably cpu limiting you before the ram does, may be an ondie controller limitation.

No you´re not right this time ;)
If you´re down to end tweaking (with the a64tweaker perhaps, which I suspect you dont) you´ll see all the various timings makes a certain difference. All these people you´ll see a lot. Where are they? How many G-skill have thier been sold :confused:

[jinu117]

I will repeat again... this is performance diff I get most when I change timing with ras/cas stuff.
3-1-2-4 (order of impact it has on performance). The 1 and 2 are just arbitrally selected though as they are very very similar.
So in essence, CAS do matter. but not as much as the other 2.

[CaTalyst.X]

have you try with CAS 1.5 or CAS 1 ?

My PC2700 noname ,go up more with CAS 1.5 or CAS 1 ,i don't know why ,but it go over 270 with 1.5 and only to 263 with CAS 2

ROFL 270MHZ @ CL 1.5 eh? What planet are u from again?

-CaT

[kakaroto]

ROFL 270MHZ @ CL 1.5 eh? What planet are u from again?

-CaT

With BH5 it is possible to run CAS1.5. But with Gskill not.

[Umek]

I am to 2.95v 2.5-2-2-11 in nForce2, cas2 is imposible

http://img92.exs.cx/img92/3364/264fsb.jpg

Are a Geil Ultra X

[Ubermann]

I can run 1.5 with TCCD.
But is that 1.5 for real ?
Or does it automatic put it to 2 or something ?

[bacon]

hey, where in :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing europe can i get the 4400 2-3-3-7 gskillz?
Do the 2-4-4-7 gskillz also work as good as th one´s of kakaroto?

@kakaroto: how long do they last? when do they begin to smoke and smell? can you REALLY give them 3,3V!?

btw. does anybody know links to the vdroop mod, vdd mod and vcore mod and any other mods for the AV8 ABIT?

are they also able to do that in dualchannel??


excaliberpc.com will ship to europe but payment by paypal and limit of $350 for the item excluding delviery

if over $350 you need to do a wireless transfer which carrys fees from your bank, about $20

[jlccarv]

I am to 2.95v 2.5-2-2-11 in nForce2, cas2 is imposible

http://img92.exs.cx/img92/3364/264fsb.jpg

Are a Geil Ultra X

Wow!

[Formann]

I may be wrong sometimes, but this time I am right, cas 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3 matters pratically none on a64s. The only timing that does is ras-cas delay! The reason people pay for good ram is they want the ras-cas of 2 which cheap ram can NOT do. Additionally, good ram can do ras-cas3 at very high fsb. Is gskill rated for 275fsb? pc4400=275 at 2.5-3-3-7 and yes ras-cas3! I see alot of people that cant even run stock, probably cpu limiting you before the ram does, may be an ondie controller limitation.

From running 2-2-2-x i can get another 5-700 points in 3dm01 with a64 tweaker. There is a reason for A64 Tweaker beeing so popular.
The CAS thing your right about tho.

BTW: I found out my Twinmos BH5 overclocks better with CAS2 on my 939rig. With the s754 mobo that i have used i could not run CAS2 any higher then 215-220. Now its the other way around. I need cas2 for above 205Mhz. Strange.

[burnhead]

With BH5 it is possible to run CAS1.5. But with Gskill not. which BH5 for example? Corsair XMS4000PRO? On a ABIT AV8?

[burnhead]

excaliberpc.com will ship to europe but payment by paypal and limit of $350 for the item excluding delviery

if over $350 you need to do a wireless transfer which carrys fees from your bank, about $20
i thought of a dealer IN europe, not shipping TO europe...

[GenTarkin]

Well I think CAS helps in raw latency rather then affecting bandwidth on the A64, cuz if I run say the latency test in CPU-Z it will drop about 10ns from goin cas 3 to 2.5, but bandwidth changes none in say AIDA32 or Sandra

[kakaroto]

which BH5 for example? Corsair XMS4000PRO? On a ABIT AV8?

I do not know, but some will do that.
For eg. my Kingston BH5 cannot run 1.5

[bacon]

i thought of a dealer IN europe, not shipping TO europe...

fair enough :stick:

[burnhead]

@BAcon: pardon?

[Bennah]

ROFL 270MHZ @ CL 1.5 eh? What planet are u from again?

-CaT

.... er


how's about Dual DDR540@CL1,5? :p:
2x256MB BH5/3,7V CL1,5-2-2-5-11-13-1T
pifast (http://www.hot.ee/winchester/DDR540@CL1,5.PNG)
SuperPi 1M (http://www.hot.ee/winchester/DDR540@CL1,5-Superpi1M.PNG)
mem bandwith (http://www.hot.ee/winchester/everest-mem%20270x10CL1,5.PNG)
mem latency (http://www.hot.ee/winchester/everest-mem-lat%20270x10CL1,5.PNG)
:D

[bacon]

@BAcon: pardon?

"fair enough" , what it says is what it means :)

im guessing a european dealer would be easier for rma's etc and thats your reasoning

im hoping excaliber wont take too long as halflife 2 is sitting here doing nowt untill i get some mem to put in it

was guna use some pc2100 mem i had lying around but its a no go in my neo 2 :(

[trans am]

What's your highest with ras/cas2? 2-2-x-x?

[kakaroto]

What's your highest with ras/cas2? 2-2-x-x?

2-2-x-x gives me array detecting ...@250MHz
With 2-2-2-x i can run max to 230MHz

Currently my memcontroller dont like 260MHz 2-3-3-7 ..

[burnhead]

@kakaroto: what was the highest FSB you reached with those :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing goods?? thougth of 300 @ 2-3-3-7-1T....

[kakaroto]

@kakaroto: what was the highest FSB you reached with those :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing goods?? thougth of 300 @ 2-3-3-7-1T....

Yeah max 310Mhz 2.5-3-3-7 1T.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4400/DDR610.JPG

[burnhead]

which RAMs were that EXactly? Can OCZ 3200 EL REV. 2.2 do the same?

[burnhead]

@kakaroto: aaahhhh...also european..... glad to have a great overclocker in europe.... where did you buy your GSKillz?

[kakaroto]

@kakaroto: aaahhhh...also european..... glad to have a great overclocker in europe.... where did you buy your GSKillz?

Yes, OCZ EL Rev2.0 can do that to cause they also use Samsung TCCD chips.
But if you want more chance to hit 300MHz, buy Gskill .. they are higher rated.

I bought the memory in USA. Payed with Paypal :D

In the Netherlands one shop sell Gskill (www.icomputers.nl) and in Belgium also one store. (www.bytesatwork.be)

[Gamer]

for Germany : http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site/?kind=8x0

[burnhead]

@kakaroto: why are they higher rated?? and what does that mean? (i am austrian and i´ve never heard this phrase before)...

[kakaroto]

@kakaroto: why are they higher rated?? and what does that mean? (i am austrian and i´ve never heard this phrase before)...

Im mean the PC4400 rating, thats the Gskill rating.. so its 100% sure you will pass DDR550 in Dual Channel.

OCZ EL rev2.0 is PC3200, but most of the chips will do as fine as Gskill.

[Ubermann]

I dont know why OCZ rate this to 3200 but i think that does not matter.
Maybe cuz everyone will hit the rated speed =)
Not everyone hit rated speed with GSKILLs 4400.
And they tell ppl they need new cpu or motherboard and so on to reach it.
I think its better to rate it to 3200 then.

My opinion.

[kakaroto]

I dont know why OCZ rate this to 3200 but i think that does not matter.
Maybe cuz everyone will hit the rated speed =)
Not everyone hit rated speed with GSKILLs 4400.
And they tell ppl they need new cpu or motherboard and so on to reach it.
I think its better to rate it to 3200 then.

My opinion.

Not everyone hit DDR550 with OCZ. The problem is NOT the memory, but the memorycontroller. Still a strange problem...

[Ubermann]

I read somewhere that amd is making new changes to memory controller.
It was good info, but i dont know when and in what cpu they are made.
Hope we see them soon!

[kakaroto]

I read somewhere that amd is making new changes to memory controller.
It was good info, but i dont know when and in what cpu they are made.
Hope we see them soon!

Well, all CPU's newer then week 33/34 with probably sSOI have a much better memcontroller.

3400+ 0412SPMW; did max 260MHz 2.5-3-3-7 1T memtest errorfree, 265MHz max benchable
3400+ 0434MPMW; did max 275MHz 2.5-3-3-7 1T memtest errorfree, DRIVE STRENGHT 1 possible, 300MHz max benchable.

[burnhead]

hmm...and what about th OCZ PC4000? or 4200? or even 4400?
which one is really better: gskill pc 4400 or OCZ 3200, both tccd newest revision...

btw. which ocz rams are this high voltage likin ones? the 3200 with 2-2-2-5, 2-3-3-7, 2-3-4-6, or even 2,3-4-4-8?? which ones sshould i take? link follows...

[burnhead]

so, here´s the link: http://www.cssc.de/shop/advanced_se...hp?keywords=OCZ

the product names are the same as in US, but i think you don´t need the descriptions, so i gave you that german link, btw. it was the only one i found....

[bacon]

right got my gskill but yet to test it has these codes

0437
k4h560838f-tccd

pcb code: B6U808


Hopfully they will like cas2 and volts ;)

[Tilmitt]

excaliberpc.com will ship to europe but payment by paypal and limit of $350 for the item excluding delviery

if over $350 you need to do a wireless transfer which carrys fees from your bank, about $20

"Total weight is limited to be less than two (2) lb, and total product costs to be less than USD 250 for order shipped via USPS Global Priority Mail with Tracking Number; or USD 150 for order shipped via USPS Global Priority Mail w/o Tracking Number."

It's a $250 limit...if only it was $350 i could buy some gskill....:(

[kakaroto]

right got my gskill but yet to test it has these codes

0437
k4h560838f-tccd

pcb code: B6U808


Hopfully they will like cas2 and volts ;)

They should do better with Highere voltage then the 431 chips.

[burnhead]

hey guys...

[YoupY]

My 437 TCCD's doesn't react very well on high voltages. Tried them @ 3.5, 3.5V and 2.85V. All are giving almost the same results, near 280 @ 2.5-3-3-7 1T.

Cause I screwed up the mod on the MSI a little bit I'm currently stuck with 3.3. So I need to fix that before I can test voltages like 2.9 and 3V :(

[bacon]

"Total weight is limited to be less than two (2) lb, and total product costs to be less than USD 250 for order shipped via USPS Global Priority Mail with Tracking Number; or USD 150 for order shipped via USPS Global Priority Mail w/o Tracking Number."

It's a $250 limit...if only it was $350 i could buy some gskill....:(


:confused: well i did, and payed by paypal, no limits on weight from what i can tell so far, £178 inc and no customs charges :banana:

Havent yet got them to stated speeds of 275 2.5-3-3-7, getting there tho

[Tilmitt]

Yeah i think i made a mistake there too so I just ordered the $290 g.skill. Teh best one!!!!!111111 Keep us posted on your results d00d

[dutchman.pt]

@kakaroto: aaahhhh...also european..... glad to have a great overclocker in europe.... where did you buy your GSKillz?

Burnhead, you may buy GSkillz @ www.pcdiga.com or www.pcdiga.net.

[Jethro]

Dunno what chips i got under the spreaders but my Patriot XBL 3200+ likes volts after breaking em in. doing 230FSB @ 2 2 2 7 with 2.85v didnt like more than 2.7v at first! 2 2 2 timings make games super smooth! very nice stuff. dunno about max clock yet only been to 240 semi stable so far. Mobo limited is all :)

[kakaroto]

Dunno what chips i got under the spreaders but my Patriot XBL 3200+ likes volts after breaking em in. doing 230FSB @ 2 2 2 7 with 2.85v didnt like more than 2.7v at first! 2 2 2 timings make games super smooth! very nice stuff. dunno about max clock yet only been to 240 semi stable so far. Mobo limited is all :)


230FSB 2-2-2-7 @2.85v is pretty good. I can be TCCD. :)

[Jethro]

this stuff is fun! sure makes an xp system feel fast! Ive never had really great ram before so its very cool! currently running 2 2 3 7 @ 235 FSB with 2.85v. rock solid!

225 or so seems to be more accurate for rock stable 2 2 2 7 operation not 230. 230 got a lil flakey is all might do it with more volts however im limited to 2.85v atm.

[bacon]

managed to get it at rated speeds 1T in dual channel mem test stable but with my cou at 7 x 275 (3200 winnie btw) so under stock clock

as soon as it goes to a multi of 8 i get 2 errors after 4 cycles of test 5, with stock cpu volts and what seems these sticks favourite of 2.7v

my mem controller seems to be not so good, with more volts im sure it will stabilise but only time can tell (which i dont have much of this week with so many dam lab reports to write)

Thing is i get the same errors, only 2 tho and the same address's no matter what i do to them,

so i think im correct about the mem controller?

due to this i havent pushed them over 275 yet, i was hoping for 275 x 9 memtest and prime stable but guna need more than usual volts to do so

[WOLF_OF_DK]

I can't wait to see how high i can go with my new 2 x 512 MB Centon TCCD 431 will go

all i know is that they can do 245 MHz 2-3-3-7 2,8V on a P4

[The Virus]

ROFL 270MHZ @ CL 1.5 eh? What planet are u from again?

-CaT

I think he's confused with FSB 1:1 and total bus of the memory. I'm guessing his memory is set at 135fsb 1:1 which gives him 270mhz total system bus.

[seldomsean]

Yeah max 310Mhz 2.5-3-3-7 1T.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4400/DDR610.JPG

Heres my PDP XBL @315 2.5-3-3-7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/seldomsean/ScreenHunter_008.gif

[Jack]

seldomsean
your link doesnt work....


Edit: goddamn :stick:
know it does work :D

nice 315MHz :D

[kakaroto]

Heres my PDP XBL @315 2.5-3-3-7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/seldomsean/ScreenHunter_008

The url is not working..

[pik-ard v1.1]

Heres my PDP XBL @315 2.5-3-3-7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/seldomsean/ScreenHunter_008.gif
very nice, is that 1t or 2t?

[Zeus]

Heres my PDP XBL @315 2.5-3-3-7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/seldomsean/ScreenHunter_008.gif

Damn, that's some nice TCCD.
I have one stick of TCCD that gives loads of errors in memtest at 275MHz.
Some TCCD appears to be very good and some very bad.

[xs64]

My tccd w/ 2.75v

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/amdson/SNAG-0025.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/amdson/SNAG-0026.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/amdson/SNAG-0027.jpg

[kakaroto]

Nice modules indeed.

I've got 2 modules. One can do 310MHz 2.5-3-3-7 1T 2.7v and the other 310MHz 2.5-3-3-7 1T 2.8v

[seldomsean]

very nice, is that 1t or 2t?

Sorry for the link...It should be up now..

@ pik-ard...Thats 1T belive it or not.. :banana:

[pik-ard v1.1]

Sorry for the link...It should be up now..

@ pik-ard...Thats 1T belive it or not.. :banana:
nice, what can you do in DC?

and how many volts?

[seldomsean]

nice, what can you do in DC?

and how many volts?

Well i just have 1 stick and my LP-UT only supports Single Channel
but i have seen these sticks DC @ 280-285 so there are really
quality IMO :cool: Vdimm@3.0

[pik-ard v1.1]

Well i just have 1 stick and my LP-UT only supports Single Channel
but i have seen these sticks DC @ 280-285 so there are really
quality IMO :cool: Vdimm@3.0
right, forgot to take note that you had a dfi board.. :rolleyes:

yea, i am thinking this ram will be what i get, once i upgrade my pc (around xmas). you just convinced me that i was right in that decision. :D

[STEvil]

I've been to 250 1.5-2-2-0 1:1 and 1T so far.. but only have 3.30v at my disposal ;)

Not TCCD though, "just" BH-6/CH-5 and some OCZ VX... heh.

[Mtemel]

where the hell can i get this gskill in uk????? i been searchinn high an low, its impossible to get some here :(

all i managed to find is the LC mem not the LE

[Mtemel]

Heres my PDP XBL @315 2.5-3-3-7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...nHunter_008.gif

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seldomsean What exactly is this mem and have you got a link????

[bias_hjorth]

where the hell can i get this gskill in uk????? i been searchinn high an low, its impossible to get some here :(

all i managed to find is the LC mem not the LE

In UK : http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/

[bias_hjorth]

Man Gskill is were I am going next. There´s def. some cool numbers around. Anyone been going through some crappy sticks or are they all fine and dandy?

[bito]

Mtemel

I have some 'LE' which i imported to the UK, from the States.....drop me a PM as i may be selling at cost :)

[kakaroto]

not CAS2.0, but DDR600 with 2x512MB on a single channel controller.

awesome!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4400/300MHz_1024MB.JPG

[Temujin]

kakaroto, good sir.

I'm new to the Opteron world, though I've decided to get one on order within the next 2 days. Do you know if the 148 and 150 models come in the same CABE stepping as yours? I planned on getting one a little closer to 2.2 or 2.4, then overclocking, maybe even to the extreme. :o

Next question: Have you ever tested 2 pair of those dual channel PC 3200 2-2-2-5 512mb sticks? I'm curious to see 4 banks of memory perform with the same tests you run. Can you possibly test that theory for me and others out there? I have not seen even ONE post out there on the net that tested the theory behind 4 bank interleave and performances.

You may even set a precedence. I very much appreciate your time if you or any other reader or forum member can put that to the test.

[Pyr0]

Has anybody tried G.Skill "FR" series memory?
[edit] nvm, daft question :p:
[edit2] i just noticed that the FR memory is rated for DDR600 at 2T will it run at 1T?

[Major]

I've never had any TCCD modules die on me, but I've heard that they wont last long with high Vdimm over 3v

[Perc]

ive deff seen my tccd fade away when using too much voltage. i wont go over 2.7v anymore i lost a very good pair of 440 tccd and that was enough to make me stray away from using alot of voltage with tccd. i think the ballistix also fade with time when using alot of voltage seems a few people i know have killed thier ballistix using too much juice... didnt you kill yours major? also that one guy denny just killed his ballistix but im not sure how his died... anyways just my 20 cents worth :toast:

peace perc,

[Pyr0]

:hitself: i'm trying to decide if i should get some good tccd or risk some ballistx

[s7e9h3n]

Ok, first I want to settle this cl1.5 vs. cl2.0 thing once and for all ;)
There is such a thing as cl1.5 and in it's true form, it IS faster than cl2.0. The only thing is that TRUE cl1.5 is not acheivable on any nf4 platform EXCEPT the DFI SLI-DR EXPERT. If you set cl1.5 with any other board, the cpu actually defaults to a CL of somewhere between cl2 and cl2.5 so, in fact, that setting is actually SLOWER than cl2.0. As a result, you'll be able to scale higher on your memory speed. That's why people are able to clock higher @ cl1.5 than @ cl2.0. Try running cl1.5 on an Expert board and you'll see just how "fast" your ram really is. This is my BH-5 on an SLI-D:
http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/6585/11x2741m0nc.jpg
My RAM can't even boot @ over 220Mhz cl1.5 on the Expert.....

Secondly, @ Kakaroto:
So are you saying that it's OK to push >2.8V into G.Skill TCCD to acheive these low latency timings? Won't this void the warrranty on them? If not, then I'll consider trying this with my 0440 FF's and 0507 LE's - are those weeks any good with high Vdd and low latencies? Here's the LE's:
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5613/le3203uf.jpg
And the FF's:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/848/325validated5su.jpg

[STEvil]

stephen - this thead is almost one year old to the day!

with that said, 4x512 TCCD @ 2-x-x-x-2T could be interesting...

[s7e9h3n]

stephen - this thead is almost one year old to the day!

with that said, 4x512 TCCD @ 2-x-x-x-2T could be interesting...
LOL....didn't notice that.....I just wanted to verify that it wouldn't void my warranty before trying it ;)

[Zeus]

Wouldn't recommand going over 2.85V with TCCD, something we didn't realize about a year ago. :D

[Vapor]

S7e9h3n, would you mind making another thread/post comparing CAS "1.5" (Oskar found a faster timing faster than 2--doesn't mean it's truly 1.5....IIRC, the old CAS 1.5 was just a variation of 2) to CAS 2? I'm intrigued, even if it doesn't clock as high.

[Tutti-frutti]

Has anybody tried G.Skill "FR" series memory?
[edit] nvm, daft question :p:
[edit2] i just noticed that the FR memory is rated for DDR600 at 2T will it run at 1T?
I have dumped all my gskill results in a review, including pc4800fr.

And, you can also see that gskill loves more voltage at cl2.0 timings.

review (http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=6&artpage=1393&articID=350)

[Pyr0]

thanks Tutti-frutti, nice roundup :D
looks like the FC kits are pretty good

[Aleman]

My TCCD does 275 with 2-3-3 at 3.5 volt.
But its only cas 2 that like that volt.

http://ruff.se/files/etc/pub/upload/2-3-3m.gif
OMG!!!!!!! 3.5V?!

[Jigga0o7]

Stuff like this is one of the reasons im glad I have a job now.