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spaceman
11-05-2004, 12:05 AM
I picked up 2x256s of Mushkin's "2-2-2 Special" back when it came out, but never really pushed it that much. In fact, I didn't even use it more than 2 or 3 days tops. Well, I decided to see what it'll do in my DFI 250 Gb, and I'm pretty happy with the results so far. Using 3.2vdimm @ 1t-2-2-2-5-2-12-16-2-2-1-1-4708-1, it does 254 Memtest86 stable, and it's F@H and Super Pi 32M stable @ 250 MHz. :D I'm gonna let it run there a bit, then see what more voltage does. :cool: BTW, SANDRA bandwidth is 3918/3920, and voltages are 1.7vcore, 1.6 chipset, 1.5 agp, and of course 3.2vdimm. My processor's running @ 9x278 (2502 MHz.) with the 9/10 mem divider, and stays around 47c. :cool:
blinky
11-05-2004, 01:08 AM
i <3 my BH6
i plan on running 3.9v+ thru mine :D
i <3 my BH6
i plan on running 3.9v+ thru mine :D
Great idea :toast: When i get my infinity i plan on running 3.7 through my bh6, so im really interested what kind of results u would get with 3.9 LOL :banana:
erik ?
i don't get your sig
proc is 3157mhz ? , ram 210 ?
st0nedpenguin
11-05-2004, 01:48 PM
Oooh, that reminds me, I have some BH-6 in a drawer somewhere.
My processor's running @ 9x278 (2502 MHz.) with the 9/10 mem divider, and stays around 47c. :cool:
Why not just run it at 10x250 for the same speed though?
spaceman
11-05-2004, 02:58 PM
Oooh, that reminds me, I have some BH-6 in a drawer somewhere.
Why not just run it at 10x250 for the same speed though?
The chip's a mobile 3000+, so my highest multiplier is 9. It kinda works out like 1/1 tho, for figuring out RAM speed. Because of the 9x multiplier, and running 9/10 RAM/CPU divider, you just look at your CPU clock speed, and remove the last number, and it's your RAM speed, lol. CPUZ or nothing else I've tried recognizes the 9/10 divider, and I only figured out this little trick after doing a lot of figuring on paper. :rolleyes: ;)
st0nedpenguin
11-05-2004, 04:13 PM
Ahh, I get you now, had me confused for a minute there. :D
Geforce4ti4200
11-05-2004, 05:17 PM
bh5/bh6 is good with tons and tons of volts but the new champ is tccd that overclocks better at 2.8v :D I am selling my bh5 for tccd or just keep the corsair value. Im not that hardcore and dont feel like doing insane vmods
ArcTan
11-05-2004, 05:53 PM
erik ?
i don't get your sig
proc is 3157mhz ? , ram 210 ?
210 x 15 = roughly 3157
tictac
11-05-2004, 06:35 PM
erik ?
i don't get your sig
proc is 3157mhz ? , ram 210 ?
:hehe: that is on phase change :stick:
blinky
11-05-2004, 06:36 PM
bh5/bh6 is good with tons and tons of volts but the new champ is tccd that overclocks better at 2.8v :D I am selling my bh5 for tccd or just keep the corsair value. Im not that hardcore and dont feel like doing insane vmodsthis is XTREME systems after all :rolleyes:
whatever suits your fancy tho :D
one more thing, tccd will never beat out bh5/6 is 3dmarks :D
st0nedpenguin
11-05-2004, 07:28 PM
Argh, you're all making me want to start testing the BH-6 now!!! :stick:
Geforce4ti4200
11-05-2004, 08:56 PM
this is XTREME systems after all :rolleyes:
whatever suits your fancy tho :D
one more thing, tccd will never beat out bh5/6 is 3dmarks :D
Probably not, but tccd at say 280fsb would match bh5 at 250fsb or so. however you generally need 3.3-3.5v for 250fsb bh5 while tccd will do 280 at 2.8v and most dont even like volts! bh5 is better only if your an xtreme volt modder, otherwise tccd is new champ, that u can agree. both ram have their places.
del_fuego
11-05-2004, 10:28 PM
bh5 is better only if your an xtreme volt modder, otherwise tccd is new champ, that u can agree.
What is you've got a good psu with adjustable rails and\or a ddr booster or maybe a good mobo with high vdimm. Volt mod not required?
blinky
11-05-2004, 11:30 PM
Probably not, but tccd at say 280fsb would match bh5 at 250fsb or so. however you generally need 3.3-3.5v for 250fsb bh5 while tccd will do 280 at 2.8v and most dont even like volts! bh5 is better only if your an xtreme volt modder, otherwise tccd is new champ, that u can agree. both ram have their places.my bh6 only needs 3.3v for 255 :D
and modding is what xtreme is all about, its half th fun :D
spaceman
11-05-2004, 11:41 PM
and modding is what xtreme is all about, its half th fun :D
Amen, brother. :cool: What ya don't know, you can learn, if ya stick around here long enough. :idea: :D
some_young_guy
11-06-2004, 03:13 AM
My BH-5 did 270 1:1 @ 2-2-2-5, 3D mark stable at around 3.68V. I love my OCZ DDR Booster. I don't need a vmod to test the range of voltages. :)
LorD_Kvadd
11-06-2004, 04:13 AM
Anybody here who's got a pair of Corsair XMS3200C2v1,1 ? I've got two of the (256mb x2) and they're supposed to be bh-6. But they act like TCCD :confused:
250fsb 1:1 2-2-2-6 @ 2,9V
270fsb 1:1 2,5-3-3-6 @ 2,9V
Did so on my NF7-S (currently dead, going to revive it this comming week). I've some pics of it some where on this place. They refuse to boot at cas 3 which a friend of mine said was bh-5/6 behaviour.
Can anybody explain this?! :confused:
tictac
11-06-2004, 05:25 AM
that is BH5... :hehe: no need to explain :slap:
erik ?
i don't get your sig
proc is 3157mhz ? , ram 210 ?
Yeah lol, my fsb is acting quite strange :stick: Here's a pifast screeny so you can see it yourself...
http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s304879/pifast1.jpg
How much vdimm do u think is needed to get 250mhz 11-2-2-2 3dmark stable? I know its different for every single module but (would you need like 3.6 volts ?), im just curious :)
tictac
11-06-2004, 10:09 AM
Yeah lol, my fsb is acting quite strange :stick: Here's a pifast screeny so you can see it yourself...
http://homepage.uvt.nl/~s304879/pifast1.jpg
How much vdimm do u think is needed to get 250mhz 11-2-2-2 3dmark stable? I know its different for every single module but (would you need like 3.6 volts ?), im just curious :)
Have you disable the NF7S Rev 2.0 APIC Mode.... you need to disabled that to run 3GHz at 250FSB :slap:
250FSb will need arround 3.3V - 3.4V depends on memory
haha good 1 tictac ! ;) Nah my nf7 is unmodded and my mem is only getting 2.9 volts. I was just wondering how many volts are needed to get 250, but 3.4 seems reasonable. Now i just need to work on my solder skills :P
Corsair XMS3200C2v1.1, bh-6. I had some that clocked very good as well. (not 270 on my board though). Also in Sandra Mem bench the efficiency rating was always like 97%.
blinky
11-06-2004, 01:05 PM
my bh6 did 240 @ 2.9v 2-2-2-11, i guess they dont mind low voltages
Mag Master 21
11-06-2004, 03:48 PM
At 3.1vdimm my 3500C2 (512) is stable at 245x11 [2-2-2-5] on my 3400+ with +110%..
here's my Mushkin Special in action on DFI NF3 board using OCZ DDR booster at 3.7v
have no OS installed (yet) so Memtest86+ should do fine ;)
spaceman
11-06-2004, 07:25 PM
I can get 261 error free @ 3.4v, only had 2 errors @ 262. :) I think it just needs more burn-in time, it's still practically new. @ jmke, I remember you from Overclockers Online. :cool: I haven't been there for quite awhile now, I'll have to drop in sometime. I was a total n00by then, and used my real name for a username, lol. :rolleyes: ;)
Elisha
11-06-2004, 08:09 PM
2x256mb xms3500 @ 3.26v
http://s87999156.onlinehome.us/elisha/cas2.JPG
Minnyboy
11-06-2004, 09:05 PM
Umm, Elisha,
That's BH5 you got there...
ALL XMS3500 are BH5, not BH6...
erik ?
i don't get your sig
proc is 3157mhz ? , ram 210 ?
x15 mutli
STEvil
11-06-2004, 09:33 PM
http://www.wcroller.com/los/linkpics/263.jpg
Some BH-6 that is very old, around 3.6v iirc.
Elisha
11-07-2004, 08:03 AM
oh yeah i know its BH5. just putting it out there fo comparison.
i had the pc3200 2-2-2 specials by mushkin but one stick was a dud so i rmaed and they sent me the new LII V2 TCCD stuff. but i bet if the BH6 is just as good as the BH5 in all respects.
Shroomalistic
11-07-2004, 12:44 PM
Heres some of Pc Ice's bh-5 he let me barrow yesterday running at 3.65v
http://home.comcast.net/~shrmytoon/278x8_2s.gif
http://home.comcast.net/~shrmytoon/4200_sandra.gif
Minnyboy
11-08-2004, 04:57 AM
Dammit, I keep on getting unlucky with these BH5's... :(
Now added 2 x 256MB KHX3200 to my collection but these don't seem to do so well...
Tried 240MHz @ 3.4v/1.7vtt on my IC7-G & it cried.... Oh well, I only tried them for like 1 hour... Gotta give these suckers a good burning in period & try again since they've been treated like "normal" RAM for the last 14months...
They were being used at 2.5-3-3-7@2.6v for god knows how long...
So my collection has grown to this so far:
2 x 256MB KHX3200
4 x 256MB XMS3500 (all do 250MHz+ in single & 250MHz in dual on my IC7-G)
2 x 512MB XMS3500 (They do 240MHz in dual on my IC7-G, didn't fare as well on my AMD64 setup)...
Still waiting on those killer sticks that are becoming rarer & rarer as each day passes...
Oh well...
I have Mushkin Special 2-2-2-6 2x512Mb and i am not happy at all when it comes to OC. The absolute maximum I´ve reached is 220fsb 2-2-2-6 T1 @ 3,3volt.
Could this be a MB related problem?? Think these memories should do better, at least on an other board.
mcnbns
01-03-2005, 05:47 AM
Have you disabled CPC? It is a known fact that most nForce2 boards dislike running 2x512MB modules in dual channel, but especially with CPC on. If that doesn't work, then there's not a lot you can do. :(
Have you disabled CPC? It is a known fact that most nForce2 boards dislike running 2x512MB modules in dual channel, but especially with CPC on. If that doesn't work, then there's not a lot you can do. :(
CPC... Ehhh what the H*ll is that?? Actually i dont know if it is disabled.
Well, the reason why I ask is that Im gonna change system as you see in my signature. Shall I keep these or get hold of a pair of TCCD memory.
HermS
01-03-2005, 07:21 AM
I have that same memory, 2 x 512 Special 2-2-2 and on my NF7 all I could manage was ~223 FSB without a voltmod, once I unleashed it on my DFi UT it easily hit 252 @ 3.4v, it will run 255 at a push. Personally I'd hang on to them until you get the new rig and see what you can get from them. The TCCD I have needs to be pushed to much much higher speed to make up for the slacker timings.
Ok thanks HermS my plan was to hang om to them untill I get my new gear and then try it out. But i need to hit 250fsb at good timings to be happy about them. Think they will benefit from a OCZ Booster???
Your sign says BH-5??
Could this be a MB related problem?? T.
100% sure
I've running BH-6 Mushkin special @ 260 CL2-2-5 @ 3.6v with DFI NF3 :)
HermS
01-03-2005, 07:37 AM
Your sign says BH-5??
I use the BH-5 for benching and use my BH-6 for 24/7 running. :cool:
100% sure
I've running BH-6 Mushkin special @ 260 CL2-2-5 @ 3.6v with DFI NF3 :)
Good OC there. Is it the 2x512Mb modules you have?? And I guess you have a vMod or OCZ booster on your card???
blander
01-03-2005, 12:15 PM
corsair xms3200c2 v1.1
http://www.pc-tweaker.ch/Pictures/Corsair266@2-2-2-5.JPG
infineon 6a
http://www.pc-tweaker.ch/Pictures/infineon@3.4v.JPG
iddqd
01-03-2005, 01:09 PM
My BH-5 only has 6Mhz headroom over the BH-6... I probably shouldn't have bought it.
Well just found out that the DFI UT nF4 SLI-DR Im gonna order will have max vDimm 4.0volt!!!! How do you think that will play with my BH-6 sticks??
iddqd
01-03-2005, 02:34 PM
Only if you can find a PSU that lets you have up to 4.2 on the 3.3 line. Those are pretty expensive...
iddqd: Nope wount need to since they let the 5v line support the vDimm ;)
_Eduard_
01-03-2005, 03:10 PM
my BH-6 is memtest86 stable @ 2x512 252mhz 2-2-2-10 but as soon as I try to boot up it reboots, could it be the mem controller on the cpu?
iddqd
01-03-2005, 06:56 PM
iddqd: Nope wount need to since they let the 5v line support the vDimm ;)
Oh, so they took my idea after all? That's a most interesting developement.
Edit: I can't beleive it. I actually affected something over the internet. I feel dirty for some reason, now... :eek:
STEvil
01-03-2005, 10:19 PM
I dont think its 100% that vdimm is generated from the +5v rail yet, but its a high probability I would bet...
As OPP said in the referenced thread Oskar basically reworked the 754 board.. the 939 board is completely by him from the ground up (in essence ;) ).
Cant wait to see what it can do if he only reworked the 754 board... :D
iddqd
01-03-2005, 10:23 PM
I dont think its 100% that vdimm is generated from the +5v rail yet, but its a high probability I would bet...
As OPP said in the referenced thread Oskar basically reworked the 754 board.. the 939 board is completely by him from the ground up (in essence ;) ).
Cant wait to see what it can do if he only reworked the 754 board... :D
Yeah, but they have a whole thread on dfi street about what people would like to see on the s939 boards, and I suggested mad vdimm adjustment using the +5 line (which lacks any real use now, but still has beefy amps)
Well the cards are now up on the DFI homepage so I guess the specualations is over. Newegg.com will have limited amount of cards today.
Good OC there. Is it the 2x512Mb modules you have?? And I guess you have a vMod or OCZ booster on your card???
1x512Mb module: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=8&artpage=1024&articID=258
A64 S754 does not play to well with 2 dimms
All4AMD
01-04-2005, 10:44 AM
Have you disabled CPC? It is a known fact that most nForce2 boards dislike running 2x512MB modules in dual channel, but especially with CPC on. If that doesn't work, then there's not a lot you can do. :(
im doing ok in dual channel with double sided 512 sticks in my pc. i must be the lucky one
STEvil
01-04-2005, 08:06 PM
did fine on 754 with 2x512 ch-5 (245 1.5-2-2-0 3.30v) and 2x512 OCZ VX (2-2-2-10 260 3.30v) here too.. just tested again today using 2x512 OCZ 3200EL with CH-5 on them when I put that board+processor into friends PC (he bought them off me).
Well well look what I just found. Im definently not going to sell my mushkin Bh-6 B4 trying them on my new 939 Mobo.
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=1&artpage=1014&articID=258
This result is with OCZ Booster @ 3,6volt
265Mhz Single 512Mb
CAS Lat 2,0
CAS Del 2
RAS# to cas# Del 2
RAS#Precharge
Cycle time (tras) 10
Bank cycle time (trc) 15
Dram idle timer 16
I did not bother with relaxed timings, you don’t push 3.5v through some Winbond memory for that. At CL2 2-2-10 this module reached stability at an impressive 265Mhz!
Ooops just saw that this link got posted b4