6800 Ultras from Newegg for $325.

[Kunaak]

ok, heres the deal.
EVGA started selling 6800 Non Ultras. a special kind, called the limited edition.
it comes with GDDR3, and the extra molex just like the 6800 ultra.

the card comes with 16 pipelines by default.
nope, I ain't saying that wrong, its a 6800 Non Ultra, with 16 pipelines and 6 vertex shaders by default.

lastly, the cards got 1.6 NS ram, which is exactly like the 6800 ultra does, and is faster then the 2.0 NS ram on the 6800 GT.

lastly, newegg has this card clocked wrong in the details.
it's not a 325/700 card.
its clocked at 325/1100.

so that means, this card is exactly like a 6800 Ultra, except it's down clocked from 400 mhz to 325.
with alittle overclocking on the core, this card would be exactly the same as a 6800 Ultra.

go the NVplanet and read about this card.
go to the Anandtech forums and read about this card.
read the reviews in this link I am about so show you.

this card is a downclocked 6800 Ultra, it's got 99% of the stuff a 6800 ultra does, right down to the smallest detail on the resistors.
thats something even a 6800 GT doesn't have.

this cards probably being sold for a short time, hence the "limited edition" name.
so if you want one, this card is definatly worth looking into.

I have a Asus gamers edition 6800 that is modded to a 16 pipeline, 6 vertex shader card, clocked at 415/1175 so far.
these modded 6800 Ultras, can easily match the 6800 Ultra.

if you got the money, and want a 6800 ultra, seriously take a look at this card. cause it's the real deal.
I don't know how long it will last at this price, but if you don't believe me, just go to some forums.
read.
theres lots of people posting about these cards, and NVplanet just did a review of it I hear (I haven't look at it yet)

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-212&depa=1

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=38644&page=2&pp=15&highlight=evga

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=1413019&enterthread=y

it's a pretty amazing deal, and you save a good $200 on these.

[tylerhskate]

Sounds awesome, i really need a new video card but i dont know if i can splurge 325 on one

[Nomjr]

I can and did! thanks Kunaak!

[ocmyface]

ADKAWOKDAKF

right when i buy a 9800pro for a coworker this deal pops up!! all i need is 30 more dollars in my account and i could order it tonight, but noo gotta wait a day for him to pay me back :mad:

hope they dont run out soon :stick:

[BobyTT]

I just got one , i ordered with 2nd day shiping , so Thursday or Friday i gonna post whats the deal with mine.

[Chipsy]

Me toooooo :wierd:

[Kunaak]

I look forward to the results any one can post from this card.
it's just too damn good, but with so many people saying what they said so far, on the various forums, it's just too damn hard to ignore.

I certainly hope it's as good as it sounds so far.
I just got my RMA 6800 from Asus today, but had I been looking for a card, this is the one I would have bought.

[Tedinde]

Thanks Kunnak, Sold!!! I overnighted so Thursday i'll have some results.

[BobyTT]

Kunaak , i hope you are wright dude... :) if its true , this gonna be the DEAL for this year.... :)
But as you said .... everything is the same...

[CTKP]

Bought one too. look at the box. It's exactly the same, it looks as if theres a sticker over the ultra text!
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-130-196-06.JPG

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-130-212-05.JPG

[Kunaak]

jesus ted, how do you buy so much stuff?

I think in just about every post I see you bought something, like 8 PSU's, ram, videocards, CPU's...

either you cycle through hardware 10 times faster then I do, or your really bill gates ;)

[Tedinde]

My friends call me Ted Gates. I have a small computer shop as a few of you know. Im a ebay power seller, Minimum $5k in sales a month. I spent $140k in computer parts last year. But i mostly do support and service for a lot of local business, keeping them up. Video stores mostly, I got hooked up with one, now i take care of them all. You wouldnt believe how oftent Video rental store computers break.

But a lot of calls are stupidity. Im the cheapest around. I Charge $65 per hour and i make house calls. Hour minimum. My favorite call Last week the Blonde lady manager calls from one of the Video Adventure stores. Says nothing is coming on the screen on one of the terminals and leaves me a message to come straight down.

I get there, she goes in the back for something. I push the power button on the front of the monitor. I have paper work for her to sign her name too that it was an emergency call $90 for the visit. Then i turn it into the head office. but it's not always that easy, When a store goes down, they actaully have to start writing everythign down on paper till the servers back up. And just about ever store is running on some Cisco server with a Pentium 1!!! running some DOS "Specific software" that's only for video store management.

Somehow through the years i got a hell of a lot word of mouth i ended up selling a lot of new computers. When i see a deal I stock up, I'll sell it in customers rigs, Ebay or put the stuff in my folding farm.

You buy quite a few things yourself Kunaak?? Maybe your Steve Job's or your robbing convienience stores to pay for that Computer "HABIT"/ Addiction!!!!

[tylerhskate]

Ted you sound like a smart guy, could you send me your ebay name? I might buy a vid card or somethin from you

[Dissolved]

Ted you sound like a smart guy, could you send me your ebay name? I might buy a vid card or somethin from you


He's alot smarter then he gets credit or even noticed for.

[Eradicator]

New Egg is sold out :( ....

[CTKP]

ooh. Mine shipped out at 2pm :D

[Tedinde]

I use the same name on every forum everywhere since 1996!! I worry about people with more than one internet name.


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=tedinde&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS

I did pretty good on all the BH5 i had and sold!!!


VIDEO CARD SOLD OUT!!! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I was going to order more!!! Ouch!!!

Im building a killer gaming rig for someone by this weekend and I counted on that card!!! Dam, im going to have to give mine up!!! I gave my word he would have a 30k 3dmark rig!!!

[Tedinde]

He's alot smarter then he gets credit or even noticed for.


TY!!! Must buy Dissolved a drink one day!!!

[infinitesadd]

They are back in stock at newegg!
I am contemplating.

[Chipsy]

Sooo , any results yet ?!?
Mine is coming the day after tommorow , but I'll be glad to hear some good stuff about the card : :toast:

[Sheograth]

im too scared to do it, since it could be a reject card

[TEDY]

geeze 65$/hour...

[Kunaak]

Ted, I get alot of hardware, and can basically say I have a completly different PC (except my good old Kingston 3500 which has served me well since january 200 ;) ) about ever 2 weeks, from CPU to down to the videocard.
very few things do I actually keep.
but I sure can't say I ever bought 8 PSU's at a time, or bought a $300 videocard for the hell of it, haha.

strangly, you and I sound alot alike.
I builld People PC's alot, I made a $490 order for my sister a few days ago.
then this evening I made a $1300 dollar order for a video editing computer for my friend caleb.
I also repair computers, but with no official business, just word of mouth, and little adds on bullitin boards at the college and malls here.
I say this for my charges.

"20 an hour, if I can't fix the problem I don't get paid"

so far, I never came across something I couldn't fix.
so I do ok, every few weeks getting a few hundred here and there randomly for my free time. it's not bad, considering I am at the moment a starving college kid.

[infinitesadd]

Any results with this card yet? I 'm kinda skeptical.

[rick_fx]

Sounds too good to be true

[kryptobs2000]

says there sold out now

[Kunaak]

stuff like this is never new.

the 9800SE from powercolor easily flashed to the 9800 pro, and sometimes even the 9800XT. people doubted that for about a year.
my 9800SE worked great when modded to a 9800 pro for about a year.

this isn't the only time, hardware has had so much potential for modding.
sometimes, you just got to take a chance before you.

I spent $400 on my Asus 6800 NU, which for the price I could have just got a GT.
but the Asus is alot closer to the 6800 Ultra, then a GT is.
so I bought it, it modded to the 16 pipelines, and does 445/1175 with ease.
so I got a card 98% exactly alike to the 6800 Ultra, but for only $400 :D

[Tedinde]

Got both of my cards today. Im testing one in my dual xeon rig now. 2x 2.8 xeons @ 3.65ghz each chip. Why not my sig rig you ask.

The dam Heatsink on the video card hits my NF3 chip with the thermaltake HSF i have on it. And it might even hit with the stock. I'll break out the dremel later and resolve that problem.

But for now i want to see if the vid card are the real deal. They cam clocked @ 325/1100 all 16 pipes are enabled. Im running 3dmark for the first time on one of them I set it @ 425 x1200 and not an artifact in sight.

both of mine are the real deal. Hat's off to Kunnaak for this deal. If it's in stock buy it!!!

$325 still isnt chump change but it's a hell of a lot less than buying an Ultra which is what this card is!!! I still dont understand why EVGA is doing this?? But they will sell every one they put out at this price.

Thank you EVGA also!!!

me predicts newegg will jack the prices up on these soon!!!!

[Kunaak]

so whats the word?

16 pipeline by default?
325/1100 by default?

[CTKP]

so whats the word?

16 pipeline by default?
325/1100 by default?


But for now i want to see if the vid card are the real deal. They cam clocked @ 325/1100 all 16 pipes are enabled. Im running 3dmark for the first time on one of them I set it @ 425 x1200 and not an artifact in sight.

...

[Tedinde]

325/1100 by default on both cards and the numbers im getting it has to be 16 pipes by default.

Is there some kind of tool that anyone know's of for showing the number of pipes enabled on the card??

[Chipsy]

Is there some kind of tool that anyone know's of for showing the number of pipes enabled on the card??

RivaTuner 2.0 RC 15.2 (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163)

[Tedinde]

Downloading now.

Another side note. Im running this dual xeon rig 2 2.8 xeons @ 3.6ghz both chips volt modded, and this Gf6800 @ 425/1200 on a Fortron 300watt Aurora Power supply, The rails are holding steady within 1%. Who needs a 500watt + PS!!

[TEDY]

will TAGAN 480W be enough ?

[Chipsy]

Well , there is a slight difference in server and ATX12 power supplies ....:)

[Kunaak]

yes, rivatuner.

check the cirlced red area.
that will confirm things.
I wanted to ask, cause I wanted to know if it came at default with 16P or did you use rivatuner, so I see you didn't use rivatuner I guess... haha...

this is my own Asus 6800 modded to 16P and 6 VS.

[Tedinde]

Well , there is a slight difference in server and ATX12 power supplies ....:)

Im not using a server power supply im using a $37 standard ATX, just plugged into the 24 pin and the 4 pin plugged into the 8 pin on the board.

Every one on here know's im a fortron fanboy and i was just being a smartass!!!!

I've got Watt meter that you can plug your computer into than into the wall. Right now the dual xeon rig with the 6800 is pulling 255 watts. Full load with F@H running.
|
Anyone know what or where in this riva tuner that shows the pipes??

[Kunaak]

here.

[Tedinde]

Nevermind i found the info. 16 pipes 6 shaders and this is the stock clock.

[Chipsy]

Guys , FEDEX just delivered mine , going to lunch , and after that I'll have some FUN ...:):):):)

[Tedinde]

Duh im blind it was right on the front and i went digging. I pity the fool that misses out on this deal!!!!

[Tedinde]

Guys , FEDEX just delivered mine , going to lunch , and after that I'll have some FUN ...:):):):)

I'd take it with me to lunch. Do not let a killer card like this out of your sight!!!

[Kunaak]

Ted, thanks for confirming this for me.
I was gettin pretty sick of people saying I was lying, or didn't know what I was talking about.

all you have to do is look at the cards themself, and you can see they are almost identical to 6800 Ultras.

but then again, it's been mostly people with 6800 GT's thats been the biggest nay sayers, and pissed off people ;)

[Tedinde]

Ted, thanks for confirming this for me.
I was gettin pretty sick of people saying I was lying, or didn't know what I was talking about.

all you have to do is look at the cards themself, and you can see they are almost identical to 6800 Ultras.

but then again, it's been mostly people with 6800 GT's thats been the biggest nay sayers, and pissed off people ;)

The naysayers are the one's crapping on this deal im sure.

I'd be pissed too. I bought a 6800gt OC from outpost about a month ago and paid $349 and that was a great deal.

I could buy these, and sell them in my rigs to customers as 6800 ultra's all day long and make an xtra $200 per computer, Im about to buy 4 more if they had them. I could sell them all day long on ebay @ $425, but i'll be nice and not buy the place out when they come in stock.

I got more than a few hate mails when i bought outpost out on the BH5's!!!

You have to figure a lot of people save their money for that dream card, then when something like this does hit and you spent all your money it probably does make them mad. Im not rich, but then im not poor either. I spend my money wisely and sell just about everything i buy. Im very careful with my dollars even though most of you notice i spend a lot of loot.


Again put this card in your auto Notify email from newegg.

[Kunaak]

who cares about newegg, go to where it's in stock right now :D

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=322699

[Tedinde]

i just got done testing the 2nd one and it doesnt clock as high 415 it starts artifacting. I guess i know which one's going in my rig.

[Tedinde]

who cares about newegg, go to where it's in stock right now :D

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=322699


Zipzoom has the numbers right also 325/1100. And the same price as newegg, since they are free 2nd day shipping.

Im ordering as we speak!!!

Here's everyone's 2nd chance!!! Dont cry if you dont get one!!!

[Kunaak]

man you won't believe some of the stupid crap you hear about this card.

"I hear theres a guy who said this card will die in a week"

"they are just selling low quality 6800 ultras, cause they will die soon"

"they are selling these cause they are the earlier version that ran super hot"

WHAT HOT VERSION?
ever?
the 6800's never had that problem.
man, I been hearing alot of stupid stuff about this deal.
all on forums with people you just can't argue with, you debunk one thing, they make up something else, and can't proove it, yet I keep proving my point over an over.
I give up on that, no more replies.
just glad atleast Ted here got a good card :)

[kryptobs2000]

I just orderd one from zipzoomfly, hope I can run at at least ultra speeds, if so I'd be happy. Do these normally go to at least that? All I've really heard were the newegg reviews and some said they couldn't even get past stock, but I figure they don't know what they're doing.

[rick_fx]

Is it SLI compatible?

[CTKP]

No, its agp, so its not sli compatible.

[kryptobs2000]

wonder what they'd give you if there was a problem with it, say you had to rma it? I can see them giving you a gt or something instead. Hopefully I won't have a problem, but I always think about these things, sepcially after my 9700 died twice (died for the third and final time the other day).

[TEDY]

you guys sure it's same card at zipzoomfly ?

[Tedinde]

I heard if you bought this based on Kunaak telling you about it, it will only be a 64 bit model, or a remarked ti4200 that GFTi4200 sent back on an RMA and they puta new heatsink on it.

Just kidding of course. I just ordered another 2 from ZipZoomfly.com, I left mine looping 3dmark 2003 for a couple hours now. It still hasnt died, And looking at it, the quality's perfect, The heatsink matches up perfect with the Ram over the whole board.

It's the same card @ zipzoomfly, The numbers of 325/1100 tell the story, Your getting the killer memory on it. The box is the same. And even if it isnt, send it to me and i'll Egay it for more than what you paid and we'll split the profit. Deal?????

Im the Ebay powerseller/ super whore!!!! notice the powerseller after my name!!!

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=tedinde&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS

A lot of other companies the ram hardly touches the HSF.

[Crow]

*searches for $325*

excellent deal !

[Tedinde]

Better jump fast, Zipzoomfly.com just bumped the price up to $339, and they will keep upping it as their supply goes down, They are known for that if people start hitting a product hard, They are very Shrewd. I wouldnt be surprised if it ends up @ $399 by tomorrow night.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=322699

Think long think wrong!!!

[Chipsy]

Installed mine , but it doesn't O/C very good - 375 is the best I got with no artefacts. Still the pipes and the Vertex Shaders are all UNLOCKED . The other big problem for me was the fan - it started to make some very annoying noises after 5 minutes of benching ...Had to replace the it with a 80mm fan , which fitted perfectly over the card . The temps are the same - 60C max . BTW the card runs a lot cooler than my 9700 PRO , and I managed to play some Hitman Contracts @ 1280x1024 / 8xS AA / 16x AF - runs smooth - something impossible for my good old AIW 9700 PRO :):):)
EDIT : I was just thinking about it - my card doesnt overclock more than 40-50 Mhz above default , is it gonna be possible finding modded bios , or even a volt-mod , so I can put some more juice to the core ??? :D
I can't live with the tought , that I'm not able to pass 5K points in Mark '05 :rolleyes:

[ocmyface]

just ordered one, should be in around tuesday, will let yall know :banana:

[Tedinde]

The first one i tried is stable @ 425x1210, the 2nd on maxes out @ 415x 1200 one more mhz on either and it cracks up. No matter what Northbridge fan i use it wont fit with the factory HSF on it in my DFI sig rig. I've got a small no namewaterblock i'll put on it, hopefully it will fit, and i wont lose any ram speed with taking off the factory cooling, since it is cooling the ram some.

I'll work on that for tomorrow nights project. Temps are fine on both of my cards. I've not been on the Nvidia wagon since a ti4600 came out and i bought it, but ended up switching back to ati a couple weeks later.

Hopefully volt mods on this card are easy. I ordered a couple more from Zip zoom, hopefully they will be the same.

Night all, it's getting late.

good buy there OCMYFACE and good luck on your purchase from zipzoom, i pray and pray they will be the same card as neweggs!!!!

[ocmyface]

if they aren't ill blast myself in the face :(

[TEDY]

Just thinking if i really need such card....i have 9800se@pro....

339$+ shipping from friend in usa at least 16$ or so...355$....then possible 20% tax customs...price bumps above 400$....ouch...and to get non working pipelines/shaders then i can just hang myself...

[Lithan]

Huh? This isn't a mod tedy. The card is an underclocked 6800ultra. Same as the 9800's when they were released (underclocked 9800pro) except there's no chance of getting slower-rated memory (some 9800's were 3.3ns compaired to pro's 2.8).

[JNav89GT]

just ordered 3 :)
I talked with eVga at the Chicago ICC friday 10/22
they were very close lipped about the Limted edition but he was every quick to point out it wasn't an "LE" card
He also loved that "we" were so excited about the card.

[TEDY]

i know i "should" get this one but i'm poor student....senior tho....just 2 exams left + degree paper/diploma....and i get good 3$/hour here in damncountry...slovenia...damn life standard suxors here.....so if i make 100hours a month i can't even afford this card ...pathetic eh ? ...lol

i have money to get it tho but just don't know if it's priority.....

[kryptobs2000]

thugsrook found out on the anandtech forumn that if you flash it with an ultra bios, that it oc's alot more. He got to 425/1.1 no prob. and before he could only get to 355mhz core

[-=TriX=-]

out of stock :(

[TEDY]

at zipzoomfly ?

still in stock tho

[kryptobs2000]

yeah, got mine from zipzoomfly, should have it by tuesday, I'll post how it clocks, then I'll flash it to an ultra and see. I like how zipzoomfly lists the correct specs in case I gotta rma it I should at least get a card that is just as good, and so I can see them having to send me an ultra since this is slightly faster than a gt stock.

[LANjack]

just ordered one, should be in around tuesday, will let yall know :banana:


Waiting in anticipation with baited breath... haha.

I got my clicker on the Buy button, but I can't go through with it until someone confirms its the same card!

Arg torture!


EDIT: It took me all of 23 minutes to convince myself to buy it anyways.. shall see on tuesday lol.. :toast: :banana: :D

[ocmyface]

lmao 23 minutes, is that a new low for you? ;)

[LANjack]

lmao 23 minutes, is that a new low for you? ;)


Haha well.. I'm the most indecisive person in the world.. and I'll usually research and cross-reference purchases until there is something better out, and then I'll start the whole perverted cycle again...

That's how I actually came across the great forums here at XS... I was digging up info on a GPU / DDR water cooling setup to go along with the LS, and stumbled on the brilliant "Online Deals and Sales" section..

Now if someone could find a deal on some 90nm amd's haha... guess I'll just wait until wednesday when monarch claims to have them in stock..

But I'm still undecided on 3200 vs 3500 lol.. back to reasearching and cross-referencing those two chips!

Carry on, carry on! :toast:

[ocmyface]

it says you have 0 posts... :confused:

im like you except not as bad, once i decide something is worth my money, i pull the trigger in like 30 seconds :p

yesterday i ordered my 6800 from ZZF 10 minutes before work, i didnt even check to see if i typed everything right, just trusted my lacking keyboard skills :x

anyways, i recommend you wait for a 90nm FX or 90nm 3800+ :bananal:

[kryptobs2000]

I'd say go with the 3500+ but wait a mmonth or 2 becuase 1.)prices will drop and 2.) most likely better ocing potentional + better mobo's

[TEDY]

or just get 939 90nm 3000+..great ocing potencial

[Kobalt]

My friends call me Ted Gates. I have a small computer shop as a few of you know. Im a ebay power seller, Minimum $5k in sales a month. I spent $140k in computer parts last year. But i mostly do support and service for a lot of local business, keeping them up. Video stores mostly, I got hooked up with one, now i take care of them all. You wouldnt believe how oftent Video rental store computers break.

But a lot of calls are stupidity. Im the cheapest around. I Charge $65 per hour and i make house calls. Hour minimum. My favorite call Last week the Blonde lady manager calls from one of the Video Adventure stores. Says nothing is coming on the screen on one of the terminals and leaves me a message to come straight down.

I get there, she goes in the back for something. I push the power button on the front of the monitor. I have paper work for her to sign her name too that it was an emergency call $90 for the visit. Then i turn it into the head office. but it's not always that easy, When a store goes down, they actaully have to start writing everythign down on paper till the servers back up. And just about ever store is running on some Cisco server with a Pentium 1!!! running some DOS "Specific software" that's only for video store management.

Somehow through the years i got a hell of a lot word of mouth i ended up selling a lot of new computers. When i see a deal I stock up, I'll sell it in customers rigs, Ebay or put the stuff in my folding farm.

You buy quite a few things yourself Kunaak?? Maybe your Steve Job's or your robbing convienience stores to pay for that Computer "HABIT"/ Addiction!!!!

yo man...u need to teach me ur tricks :) i started a computer business (fixing + systems + networking) around 2-3 months ago. ive made a few hundred bucks so far. but the main problem is is that i live in one of the richest areas in the country and people here would rather spend 300$ for some known company like geeks on call....which are a bunch of nerds running around in little volks. beetles.

and about the 6800...i may buy one out of impulse or something. i was planning on waiting till nf4 or later to buy a whole new computer, but this deal is too good to pass up. im building a customer a computer soon and i could put my 9800 pro in there and basically sell it for 140ish. plus...doom 3...hl2....counter-strike source....ut2k4 are all out and coming out. ill have to research a bit :)

[ocmyface]

just go for it, allow me to show you my train of thought into buying this:

spend 330 now, overclock to 6800ultra speeds, use it until NF4 comes out, then resell it for AT LEAST 400, a 6800ultra is 617 bucks on newegg right now!! :bananal:

and everyone knows the ultras and x800xt pe's arent getting any more common

where theres a plan, there's an egayer with daddy's credit card ;)

[Kobalt]

yea ...i dont wanna buy from zippyzoomzip zip zip zip though cause its almost 15$ cheaper....and i already have a cart at newegg.

i didnt realize how much the 6800 ultras were cause ive been not paying attention to things i cannot attain :) wow this is a GREAT deal. thanks kunaakk

im thinking about buying a few and selling them on ebay, but im not sure how to sell them as. i donno maybe ill put in fine print that its really a limited edition lol


i just wish newegg could make really loud annoying noises when its in stock cause i dont check my email more than twice a day

[Tedinde]

yo man...u need to teach me ur tricks :) i started a computer business (fixing + systems + networking) around 2-3 months ago. ive made a few hundred bucks so far. but the main problem is is that i live in one of the richest areas in the country and people here would rather spend 300$ for some known company like geeks on call....which are a bunch of nerds running around in little volks. beetles.

and about the 6800...i may buy one out of impulse or something. i was planning on waiting till nf4 or later to buy a whole new computer, but this deal is too good to pass up. im building a customer a computer soon and i could put my 9800 pro in there and basically sell it for 140ish. plus...doom 3...hl2....counter-strike source....ut2k4 are all out and coming out. ill have to research a bit :)


geeks on call, I saw them running around in a gay ass Beatlebug that said geeks on call on the side. I was about to run him off the road with my Xtreme on call F150 V8 4x4 with 33" tires i just put on it!!!

The trick is building up a hell of a word of mouth and customers that recommend you. I started my business and got a resellers licence back in 1998!!!

next you gotta keep stuff on hand to fix any computer problem or upgrade, No customer want's to wait a week while their part gets here. They want instant. So that means carrying every size HD, DVD, CDRW and DVD-r drive. You can never have enough memory on hand, and for every config imaginable. Plus pleanty of SDRAM since most everyone is still using that old rig.

next you eithter have too much work or none at all, There's never a steady flow it seems.

Always have plenty of Capital on hand. On a big business order there's nothing wrong with asking for 1/2 down 1/2 upon delivery. Or a small Deposit on someone you dont know to start a custom computer. But any long time customer You shouldnt have them put any money up until delivery, You have to look like your on top of everything.

And last get the hell off the fourms all the time and get some work done, which im never good at!!! :D

[Tedinde]

just go for it, allow me to show you my train of thought into buying this:

spend 330 now, overclock to 6800ultra speeds, use it until NF4 comes out, then resell it for AT LEAST 400, a 6800ultra is 617 bucks on newegg right now!! :bananal:

and everyone knows the ultras and x800xt pe's arent getting any more common

where theres a plan, there's an egayer with daddy's credit card ;)

Thats my boy!!!! I knew i had a twin somewhere!!!!

[kryptobs2000]

so anyone gonna try an ultra bios or has no one here gotten their card yet?

[ocmyface]

Thats my boy!!!! I knew i had a twin somewhere!!!!

lmao, feels GREAT to be home!

[Chipsy]

so anyone gonna try an ultra bios or has no one here gotten their card yet?
Yeah , any one tried to flash it with ULTRA BIOS ?!?!? Should work , but ...

[Tedinde]

Someone point me the way to the ultra bios or email it to me @ tedinde@comcast.net and i'll be the first Dumb ass/ Hero!!! to give it a shot. Like i said. One card does 425/1200 no problem the other struggles!!!!

[Joe Camel]

HERE (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=3172327#post3172327) is the thread over on OC.com...

here is my last post...


well, im done maxing the OC with this new BIOS: ThugsRook's 1.5V "LE-GT"...BE thread (http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5056)

:banana: :eek: 450 / 1160 :eek: :banana:

o ya, i benched this too :cool:

sig rig @ 2813MHz (12.5 x 225) mem: 11,2,2,2

Bench.....X800pro(475/450)......X800pro(560/531).....6800(325/550)......6800(365/560).....6800(450/580)
aqua M........58,670...............61,598.............. 59,682.............63,247..........67,485
3D-01..........23,164...............23,940........... ..21,384..............21,949..........22,743
3D-03..........10,323...............11,757........... ..10,660..............11,652..........13,490
3D-05...........4046..................4518........... ....4378.................4843.............5764

this is still on stock cooling. not even AS5...STOCK! :D
temps: 50C idle 69C load (but ive got 14C outside air ducted to the case)

EDIT:

http://img98.exs.cx/img98/8932/4501160.jpg

[Nomjr]

Thanks for coming over and posting your results Joe :toast:

looks for a floppy drive now :stick:

[Chipsy]

Thanks for coming over and posting your results Joe :toast:

looks for a floppy drive now :stick:
I flashed from my hard drive - no problem ...Just make an bootable DOS CD and be sure , that you have a FAT ( FAT32 ) partitition on your HDD :stick:
So - after the flash LE-GT ( !!!THANKS TO THUGSROOK - Bleedin Edge !!!) the card max out @ 425 / 1179 , before that I could only get to 350 , 375 with artefacts ... Now I passed the 5000 limit in Mark'05 and now I'm aiming for 6000 :slobber:

[Siphilon]

for some known company like geeks on call....which are a bunch of nerds running around in little volks. beetles.



Please dont rag on the DUBs..ima vortex'r here so gotta stand up to the vw knockin'...I could think of a lot worse cars to have....

[uclajd]

I flashed from my hard drive - no problem ...Just make an bootable DOS CD and be sure You can use nvflash v.442 and just do it from Windows, no DOS or floppies needed. Worked for me flashing my 6800 GT. ;)

If you want details on the procedure, just ask. :cool:

[sky]

Someone point me the way to the ultra bios or email it to me @ tedinde@comcast.net and i'll be the first Dumb ass/ Hero!!! to give it a shot. Like i said. One card does 425/1200 no problem the other struggles!!!!

quick question, can you check what voltage these cards run on default? 1.3v-ish or something different?
thanks

[ocmyface]

joe camel, did you order your card from newegg or zipzoomfly?

[Kobalt]

Please dont rag on the DUBs..ima vortex'r here so gotta stand up to the vw knockin'...I could think of a lot worse cars to have....

sorry i didnt understand half your post, but i think u said u like vw. i like most of their cars, but the beatle is definitly a girls car.

[Joe Camel]

joe camel, did you order your card from newegg or zipzoomfly?

newegg

EDIT:

got 450 / 1180 working this morning... :thumbsup:

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/2523/1350003.jpg

[TEDY]

sniff sniff....

i get like 6k in 2k3 :(

[Chipsy]

newegg
Got 450 / 1180 working this morning... :thumbsup:


HOW ?!?

[Joe Camel]

got me :shrug:

i must have gotten a "good card" :hehe:

are you using the 1.5V LE-GT bios from ThugsRook?

testing 452/1210...

[Kobalt]

you all are gonna have to help me flash the bios and get these programs i was reading about in another thread where u can change the fan speed. the guy who made the LE -> GT bios said that the fan speed goes down significanty. i dont mind noise that much since i have noise canceling headphones, so id like to be able to use that program. mainly need help with the bios though when i get it. ill prolly use the GT upgrade with default clocks at 325 1100 just in case 400 doesnt work. i just dont wanna blow a 300$ card....................again :(

lol i wonder if this antec true 480w can handle the card...doesnt it require like 420w+ or something lmao.

[Joe Camel]

you all are gonna have to help me flash the bios and get these programs i was reading about in another thread where u can change the fan speed. the guy who made the LE -> GT bios said that the fan speed goes down significanty. i dont mind noise that much since i have noise canceling headphones, so id like to be able to use that program. mainly need help with the bios though when i get it. ill prolly use the GT upgrade with default clocks at 325 1100 just in case 400 doesnt work. i just dont wanna blow a 300$ card....................again :(

lol i wonder if this antec true 480w can handle the card...doesnt it require like 420w+ or something lmao.


if you check out my post on OC i tried to spell out the flashing process that worked for me. (that was the first time I ever flashed a Vid card)


as for the PSU...my (fortron 530W) 12V rail (MBM) was 11.95 with a x800 pro (idle). now its @ 11.80 with this new card (idle) dips to 11.63 (load). think i need to look into the Fortron's rail adjustment...

[kryptobs2000]

mbm5 is bs for measuring voltage rails. Mine measures it at 11.5 sometimes, but it's never once dropped below 12.02 and never goes higher (before I modded it) than 12.04 no matter if it's in load or idle or what with my multimeter. Never trust the voltage readings.

[TEDY]

so all of you guys got the gfx card with working 16/6 ?

ALL OF YOU ? 100% ?

[LANjack]

Damn.. I just checked thugsrook thread on LE bios.........

WOW.

just... WOW.

Can't wait till mine gets here!


EDIT: Oh... and to whoever was waiting for newegg to get them back in stock.... I wouldn't wait.

From the other thread someone said each place got a limited quantity of 200+, and ZZF gives free second day air anyways. When it comes down to it, its really only a few bucks different after you figure in ship costs.

So, I would jump on ZZF before they sell out too. The potential for these cards is amazing.

[CrimeDog]

Bios modding tools
http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/15/37/

evga bios files
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5056&page=1&pp=15

Notes: gt bios is faster than ultra bios (clock for clock.) LE bios cripples overclocking.

[CTKP]

Is anyonw having problems with power? To clarify, I have one molex coming from two cd drives, and another coming from a hdd and fdd, should i worry about that? It specfies that it should be plugged from two independant cables :rolleyes:

This is on a ttgi 550w.

[kryptobs2000]

that should be fine

[CTKP]

Yeah, one hour of cod:uo, not one hiccup (except for some lag :p: )

[Kunaak]

Bios modding tools
http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/15/37/

evga bios files
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5056&page=1&pp=15

Notes: gt bios is faster than ultra bios (clock for clock.) LE bios cripples overclocking.

great info, except one thing.
I highly suggest you don't flash a card with 2 molex connections, to a card that has 1 molex connection.
you can read all about what happend to my original 6800 NU from asus, when I did exactly that. it basically made my card a hunk of junk, and lost about 30% of it's overclockability, and when flashed back to the 6800 NU, one molex was getting no power anymore.
it was getting no power with the GT mod, but I didnt think anything of it, but after I flashed back to the 6800 NU it definatly set off the alarms.
the card just wasn't the same after...

you can read about my experiences with flashing a 2 molex card, with a 1 molex bios here.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43856

[CrimeDog]

Damn, that's harsh Kunaak, but there are plenty of people who have done this to their evga 6800le's and not had any problems.

[Kunaak]

well, its something you really should consider.
my first Asus 6800 NU was nearly useless after trying to flash it with a GT bios.
flashing is nothing new to me, I've flashed this 6800 NU here about 40 times in the first 3 days I had it, finding the perfect combination of speed and voltages.
theres nothing really you can mess up.
just use NVflash 4.42-make a dos start disk. enter "NVflash -p -u -f _____.rom"

[tylerhskate]

Damn you guys are gonna make me buy this, but my parents dont have enough money on there card to let me buy this :(. If only i had my own account i could have already had it ordered. I need a new card so bad omg..I have 437 dollars but i dont think they would let me spend almost all of my money on a video card...maybe im gonna have to go with a 6800NU(which one is the best for price?)

[Kunaak]

sell your old card to get alittle extra cash.

[Rukee]

Damn you guys are gonna make me buy this, but my parents dont have enough money on there card to let me buy this :(. If only i had my own account i could have already had it ordered. I need a new card so bad omg..I have 437 dollars but i dont think they would let me spend almost all of my money on a video card...maybe im gonna have to go with a 6800NU(which one is the best for price?)
BFG 6800 GT factory OC`d card IMO is the best. It`s thin, it`s quiet, it`s fast.

[Siphilon]

BFG 6800 GT factory OC`d card IMO is the best. It`s thin, it`s quiet, it`s fast.

Why does it matter how big the card is if you aren't even occupying all of the slots? I know there are people who do occupy every slot but I don't think that is so common these days. Especially in the "XS" community.

[Kobalt]

i ordered mine last night

well how much faster is the gt bios than the ultra bios?

and its said that if you flash the bios...warrenty = :owned: :flame: :explode: :frag:

but how will they know its been flashed if youre able to reflash the bios back to the original before rma?

[kryptobs2000]

They won't. My only concern is what they will send as a replacement. What if you got a real le or even worse a 6800. I'd rather have this card than a gt. From what I'm hearing it's in no way crippled like it was previously thought. Most get oc's similar that you would get from an ultra.

[Kobalt]

they should send something of the same value from this time period...sucks

my guess to why they made these, is not that they didnt pass qc, because people are hitting 450mhz on core and 1150 on mem, but that they made too many ultras and they werent selling so they had to get rid of them.
or its a little bit of both


im just scared of flashing the bios and then for some reason in a year my card craps out and i cant rma caused i flashed the bios

[Rukee]

Why does it matter how big the card is if you aren't even occupying all of the slots? I know there are people who do occupy every slot but I don't think that is so common these days. Especially in the "XS" community.
Well, I also have the Gainward Golden Sample 6800 GT card which is so large it hits the IDE sockets specially with cables installed on an NF7-S making inserting the card fully impossable. So if you have alot of stuff going on around the APG slot, size might matter.

[dwwalker14335]

The 6800 LE's are failed Ultra's. When they test the Ultra cards, they get them up to 80C or so and make sure they run 425/1100 without any issues. These cards did not make the grade either on core, memory, and occasionally, a bad quad (so you get 12 pipelines, not 16). That is with the 1.1/1.3/1.4 BIOS. So, instead of scrapping them, they sell them as the LE, clock them to 325/1100, and let them loose on the market. The regular Ultra's seem to have a lot of headroom, especially when you add watercooling or the like. They test the cards to work in the worst case (pun intended) scenario; some dust choked case with an 80 mm fan on front and the PSU to pull it out on the back.

If you can keep the card well below 80C and mod the BIOS, the core will produce some good clocking. You might get a card with good memory and a bad core that can clock to 420/1280, or get a good core with bad memory, and clock to 450/1160 or so. Either way you cut it, for just over $300, it is a great deal.

Here is a link to the product specs from eVGA.

http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/N347.pdf

[Kobalt]

how do u know this dwwalkeR? not questioning, just wondering

[Siphilon]

how do u know this dwwalkeR? not questioning, just wondering

I think the information he stated was just a logical explanation of why these cards are offered at the price they are but I think this just happens to be one of those cases of getting a little more than what you pay for, perhaps?

[Kobalt]

I think the information he stated was just a logical explanation of why these cards are offered at the price they are but I think this just happens to be one of those cases of getting a little more than what you pay for, perhaps?

yea i know its just a logical explination, but with the details of 80°C and everthing, it just seemed to me that he knows this for a fact, unless im just a dumbass and hes just really smart or something :stick:

[ocmyface]

yea i know its just a logical explination, but with the details of 80°C and everthing, it just seemed to me that he knows this for a fact, unless im just a dumbass and hes just really smart or something :stick:

yeah, thats far too specific to be logical guessing

either hes on the inside or hes GF4's lost twin brother :rolleyes:

[kryptobs2000]

I'd say he's GF4's twin brother lol

[Kobalt]

lol that kid pisses me off....i want to punch him in the face for being so arrogant, but thats just my opinion lol

[dwwalker14335]

I am the GF4 evil twin :stick:

Actually, I talked with some of the QA people over at eVGA when I was getting my Ultra Extreme. They explained the selection process and QA. It's a pretty simple process. I wanted to know how they find the good cards and where the bad ones went. Now I know, and you know ;)

The LE card is still a killer deal. Especially if you put a 1.5V BIOS in the card and watercool it. It should perform very nice for a card well under $400. A bargain in every sense of the word.

The only bad thing is if you get a failed quad on the LE. But, that is where the luck of the draw happens. And, for those thinking they are getting a "real" Ultra hiding in a cheap card, look at it from eVGA's perspective. It makes no sense to sell a back ordered, hard to find card for almost $200 less when there is a line up outside clamouring for the Ultra. Even so, it really competes with the GT's bang-for-the-buck, and basically destroys the regular 6800 NU for value.

[Kobalt]

if i get a failed quad on it...i would probably "think" its broken and send it back to zipzipzipzipzoomzoomzoomflyflyfly so some noob can get it. yes its a little mean, but cmon social darwinism...ill do it cause i can...and cause im better than all these noobs

^lol that name is so funny...zipzoomfly^

anyone know what zipzoomfly was called before? wasnt it something about google ? i donno i dont remember

yea i want watercooling real bad, maybe ill get it this winter. but i have raptors so it kinda defeats the purpose of no/less noise. one day though...one day...im buying a budgetless computer...before i die!

[dwwalker14335]

LOL, most newbies will run this card at the stock speeds. They will never know the cards real potential. Besides, the 12 pipe card, once it is returned, will find its way into a nice 845 based 2.26 P4, 533 FSB , single channel 512 MB system. A nice, happy, slow paced retirement home.

[kryptobs2000]

well zipzoomfly lists it as a 16/6 card in the specs and I think evga does as well. So if I get it and it's broken, then I'd consider that defective.

No one has gotten one that is broken, and I havn't heard of any cards that didn't reach ultra speeds with the ultra bios (whihc I've heard of less than maybe 5 but still). Havn't heard of any of them that don't reach gt speeds with the crap le bios, so I don't see why they couldn't have sold them as gt's. I have no doubt they'd run at 350mhz, specially with a gt bios.

[TEDY]

so this card is what then 12 or 16 pipe ?

[CTKP]

16 pipes

[Rukee]

I know a guy who bought one and any speed over the stock speeds causes lock-ups.
He ordered a new power supply just incase that was limitting him, but I don`t think so.

[CTKP]

I know a guy who bought one and any speed over the stock speeds causes lock-ups.
He ordered a new power supply just incase that was limitting him, but I don`t think so.
I haven't got any lock ups, but anything over 355 artifacts in 3dm2k3 - not really bad at all, but it still artifacts.

[Chipsy]

I haven't got any lock ups, but anything over 355 artifacts in 3dm2k3 - not really bad at all, but it still artifacts.

Well , you know that the original BIOS sux , right ?
I got no problems with Ultra BIOS , even I got separate 2D/3D clocking ...
Mine goes to 425-430 artefact free

[Tedinde]

if i get a failed quad on it...i would probably "think" its broken and send it back to zipzipzipzipzoomzoomzoomflyflyfly so some noob can get it. yes its a little mean, but cmon social darwinism...ill do it cause i can...and cause im better than all these noobs

^lol that name is so funny...zipzoomfly^

anyone know what zipzoomfly was called before? wasnt it something about google ? i donno i dont remember

yea i want watercooling real bad, maybe ill get it this winter. but i have raptors so it kinda defeats the purpose of no/less noise. one day though...one day...im buying a budgetless computer...before i die!

Zipzoomfly, formerly know as googlegear.com they posted they had issues with the google name and google. but hell i've ordered from them for 4 years under the googlegear name. What was the big deal. They ship and have just as good prices as newegg, But their CS sucks!!! good luck sending anything back!!

[Chipsy]

Zipzoomfly, formerly know as googlegear.com they posted they had issues with the google name and google. but hell i've ordered from them for 4 years under the googlegear name. What was the big deal. They ship and have just as good prices as newegg, But their CS sucks!!! good luck sending anything back!!

That's why there are a lot of noobs in eBay :toast:

[Kobalt]

Besides, the 12 pipe card, once it is returned, will find its way into a nice 845 based 2.26 P4, 533 FSB , single channel 512 MB system. A nice, happy, slow paced retirement home.

lmao ....slow paced retirement home

ah yea googlegear...thanks

yea seriously....you can sell ANYTHING on ebay
i once saw a container that "contained britney spears fart" inside. it was bid on too :stick:

but i never really got a clear answer...
so say i flash my card with the ultra bios and then in one year it dies because it just died lol. 1. will they even be able to check what bios it has? 2. will they check it? and lastly, 3. if i flash it back to the original bios somehow using a pci card, will they know if it was flashed?
i really wanna push this card to the limit, like all of us except those n000bs, but im not interested in this card dying and it not being able to be returned.

[tylerhskate]

So say i splurge 325 bucks or 340(from zipzoomfly) on this card, im not guaranteed 400 on the core which is ultra speeds am i correct? 400 is not that big of a deal but id like to get it somewhere close to ultra speeds if not over

[ocmyface]

when flashing to ultra bios a majority are hitting ~400 but no of course you're not guranteed :stick:

kobalt: yes, yes, no

anyone gotten theirs in from ZZF yet? mines still "packed" and its been "packed" since Friday afternoon :mad:

[dwwalker14335]

Remember guys, the eVGA Ultra comes stock at 425/1100, not the regular 400/1100. This is a change from their advertised clocks. The last 5 eVGA Ultra's I have bought for system builds all came this way, so it is not an anomaly. So, getting up to 420 should be very possible with the "failed" Ultra. Keep it cold, and I bet it will go to 440 or so. Put a 1.5V Ultra BIOS in place, 450 or so should be possible.

[kryptobs2000]

same here, I e-mailed them and they responded with basically 'we don't do stuff on the weekend, it will be shipped out at 7pst (an hour and a half ago, still says 'packed'). I assume they just havn't updated the information yet though. But I should get it on wensday I guess.

Your of course not guarenteed 400, but I havn't seen any that did not make it using the ultra bios. As long as I can run 400/1100 I'd be satisfied, but I'd love to get 425+ on the core. And anyone think it'd be possible to take the memory up to 1400mhz? How much would ramsinks help you think? Saw someone with their memory up there and I gotta get mine there now :banana4:

[MUCHO]

To buy - or not to buy....

Its too bad I'm married with kids... :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Kobalt]

wow

zipzoomfly = wow
i gave them a whole day to process the god damn order and its "processing"
wtf is the point of 2day shipping if i can get it from newegg faster using fedex saver. if it doesnt ship today, im going to be extremely pissed off. btw i have a 4 day weekend this week so ill be doin testing. monday = teachers grading worthless essays, tuesday = election day :-D

[kryptobs2000]

lmao, thats exactly what I said in my e-mail to them

[`schr0et]

wow

zipzoomfly = wow
i gave them a whole day to process the god damn order and its "processing"
wtf is the point of 2day shipping if i can get it from newegg faster using fedex saver. if it doesnt ship today, im going to be extremely pissed off. btw i have a 4 day weekend this week so ill be doin testing. monday = teachers grading worthless essays, tuesday = election day :-D

Same placed order yesterday and its still processing. :stick:

[kryptobs2000]

well mine shipped, I should have it tommarrow. I'll let you guys know

[Siphilon]

wow

zipzoomfly = wow
i gave them a whole day to process the god damn order and its "processing"
wtf is the point of 2day shipping if i can get it from newegg faster using fedex saver. if it doesnt ship today, im going to be extremely pissed off. btw i have a 4 day weekend this week so ill be doin testing. monday = teachers grading worthless essays, tuesday = election day :-D


GL getting it from Newegg since they're sold out. I'm sure they could care less whether you cancel the order or not. Just offering another point of view for ya..I mean they got people lining up to buy the card.

Anyway, I placed my order on Sat. and it shipped Monday. :thumbsup:

[CrimeDog]

ran mine flawlessly at 445/1199 in 3d03 with the gt 1.4v bios.
yes, you do need to flash to get a decent overclock. mine was stuck at about 355/1100 before the flash.

going to replace the stock TIMs and try the 1.5v bios today :)

[Kobalt]

siph, if newegg werent sold out i would have obviously ordered from them in a heartbeat

just saying how rediculous it is for how long it takes to process. theyre either A. extremely ineffiecent or B. understaffed

newegg is very effiecent...they have every single thing down to a tee, and they have plenty of staff, AND their prices are cheaper...the owner of newegg is clearly very smart and knows how to run a business well... were as the owner of zipzoomfly is just....average

[TEDY]

i should have ordered 1 at egg when it was 325$ :(

[CrimeDog]

i ordered mine sunday from zzf and it's packed today. should go out fedex 2 day tomorrow. that's nothing to complain about, they can't all be as good as newegg.

[Siphilon]

siph, if newegg werent sold out i would have obviously ordered from them in a heartbeat

just saying how rediculous it is for how long it takes to process. theyre either A. extremely ineffiecent or B. understaffed

newegg is very effiecent...they have every single thing down to a tee, and they have plenty of staff, AND their prices are cheaper...the owner of newegg is clearly very smart and knows how to run a business well... were as the owner of zipzoomfly is just....average

understandable. Newegg is pretty impressive. I bet ZZF is probably a bit understaffed. They do beat Newegg on pricing from time to time so I always give them a look. I've ordered from them before multiple times and never had a problem + reasonable shipping time. ex. I just looked at 3500+ & FX-55 & ZZF has both for less than Newegg...just thought I'd point that out..not knocking either place.

Back on subject, look forward to receiving the card and voiding warranty almost immediatly!

[dwwalker14335]

I would flash the LE with an Ultra BIOS instead of the GT BIOS. The memory timings are a bit tighter in the Ultra with 1.6 ns versus the GT 2.0 ns. Also, there is no throttle voltage on the GT BIOS, so as it approaches thermal limits or clock limits, it will lock up. But, clock for clock the GT BIOS is better because it does not use this extra setting. So, I have flashed a number of GT and Ultra cards with each of the BIOS levels, and I have found the edited Ultra BIOS with 1.1/1.4/1.4 as the voltages is the best for clocking the Ultra cards, and the LE is an Ultra. Now, if it passes 450/1200 performance regularly, and it keeps cool (under 50C idle), I would look at the Ultra Extreme 1.5V BIOS. Here is a link to a UE based BIOS edit using 1.1/1.5/1.5. It is the one I use on my card to get 510/1320.

http://65.201.253.101/webpics/6800UE.rom

[kryptobs2000]

Hey, just reading around, and I came across this posted by kunaak:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=338919

Seems the le is different from the ultra. Can anyone else confirm this?

[dwwalker14335]

Hey, just reading around, and I came across this posted by kunaak:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=338919

Seems the le is different from the ultra. Can anyone else confirm this?


The eVGA Ultra does not come with the small chip they have referenced. The Asus pictured does have the chip. The eVGA LE is an eVGA Ultra, just a different BIOS.

[kryptobs2000]

oh, ok, that makes me feel a little better. I figured all ultras would be the same, guess I'm just used to ati, most of their cards are the same as I can remember.

[dwwalker14335]

I think I would be a little skeptical ar first, as well. It is almost too good to be true, right ? :)

But, this time there is no catch...

[LANjack]

I would flash the LE with an Ultra BIOS instead of the GT BIOS. The memory timings are a bit tighter in the Ultra with 1.6 ns versus the GT 2.0 ns. Also, there is no throttle voltage on the GT BIOS, so as it approaches thermal limits or clock limits, it will lock up. But, clock for clock the GT BIOS is better because it does not use this extra setting. So, I have flashed a number of GT and Ultra cards with each of the BIOS levels, and I have found the edited Ultra BIOS with 1.1/1.4/1.4 as the voltages is the best for clocking the Ultra cards, and the LE is an Ultra. Now, if it passes 450/1200 performance regularly, and it keeps cool (under 50C idle), I would look at the Ultra Extreme 1.5V BIOS. Here is a link to a UE based BIOS edit using 1.1/1.5/1.5. It is the one I use on my card to get 510/1320.

http://65.201.253.101/webpics/6800UE.rom


Uhhhh.... have you been following the BE thread by thugsrook at all? The guy has modified and created his own version of the bios's, and tested every other one out there.... you should really take a look. It's something like 14 pages.. but read through it and I bet you switch to his bios, and a GT one at that.

>>>Clicketh Here<<< (http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5056)

[A.Phillips]

$349 ..Free 2day Fedex (https://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=322699)

GoodLuck guys.

[dwwalker14335]

Uhhhh.... have you been following the BE thread by thugsrook at all? The guy has modified and created his own version of the bios's, and tested every other one out there.... you should really take a look. It's something like 14 pages.. but read through it and I bet you switch to his bios, and a GT one at that.

>>>Clicketh Here<<< (http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5056)


I looked at the Ultra BIOS he made and it uses 1.1/1.3/1.4. That is why the GT BIOS will clock better, but the mem timings could be tighter. An Ultra BIOS with 1.1/1.4/1.4 is basically the same as a GT 1.1/1.4 since the throttle and 3d voltages are one in the same on a GT.

My GT card with my rev 2 edit BIOS at 1.1/1.4 went to 470/1140 and my Ultra to 510/1320 with the 1.1/1.5/1.5 edited BIOS. I have not put a GT BIOS on an Ultra, yet. I am sure you could get the mem clocks higher, since they are looser. Kinda like 2-2-2-5 DDR does not go as high as 2.5-3-3-7 DDR. The GT BIOS loosens the timings a bit. The LE uses the 1.6 ns GDDR3, so maybe it will help. Interesting link.

[CTKP]

This thing looks awesome. going to try it out as soon as i find a floppy drive :confused:

:
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43597&postcount=214

[TEDY]

lol price rising....:banana::banana::banana::banana: it i wont get these card....got my 9800se@pro

[LANjack]

I looked at the Ultra BIOS he made and it uses 1.1/1.3/1.4. That is why the GT BIOS will clock better, but the mem timings could be tighter. An Ultra BIOS with 1.1/1.4/1.4 is basically the same as a GT 1.1/1.4 since the throttle and 3d voltages are one in the same on a GT.



I think once apon a time he had a 1.1/1.4/1.5 ultra bios up there. Though he found better temps and only a *slight* loss of clock by going down to 1.4, I think that's why he took the 1.5 away. I probably still have the 1.5 ultra on my computer at home if you want to take a look at it. I have all the revisions of all the bios he made lol. Some crazy ones in the begining of that thread.

[BobyTT]

I saw that newegg , doesnt even have those eVGAs in their site anymore.... so i think that this is gonna be the only time that we can order those cards.

Guys , can i flash myne card from USB FLASH CARD?

[kryptobs2000]

can you make the computer boot from the flash card? if so then yes.

[buff]

uhm......how long does ZZF take to verify my card?
its taking awhile.......

[kryptobs2000]

Took them 4 days to verify mine, but they said that they don't do crap on the weekend. So... I dunno, no more than 2 days.

[Kobalt]

finally shipped today...ill have it tomorrow, but i have to reformatt ...
yes im sure theres some way with a driver cleaner, but its been almost 2months since the last reformatt and i have a lot of worthless crap on here

[uclajd]

can you make the computer boot from the flash card? if so then yes. People, you do not need to flash in DOS. nvflash utility can be done from Windows.

Here is my experience (http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1026531844&postcount=91). Works fine from Windows, no DOS booting (ha ha, DOS Boot) or floppy required. Might be nice if you had a PCI video card laying around just in case. ;)

[Tedinde]

I got my zip zoom fly cards today. both of them were 16 pipe. and clock just as good over 400+ amd 1200 mem.

I need to search around to see where to measure the volts on this card. The only reason i can see to even flash this card is to get more volts to the GPU unless it's all ready at the max of all the bios' out there.

[kryptobs2000]

I just got my card, and wow I'm impressed and I'm just running it at stock speeds. I completely killed my friend x800 pro in HL2 stress test with 6x/16x I was expecting to tie at best. I'll post all my results after I finish testing.

edit1: Hey, just realized, my memory came stock at 700mhz, now I'm worried. Anyone else have this happen? I can oc the core to 400mhz no prob. with the le bios, but at about 415mhz+ I don't artifact, it just freezes

edit2: I put my memory at 1.1ghz and I get crazy artifacts all over. Wtf is with this?! I'm dissapointed as crap, should I rma it? Zipzoomfly even lists it as 1100mhz stock.

edit3:It artifacts anything over 900mhz. This isn't even 2.0ns memory wtf, I'm really pissed off, just requested an rma from zipzoomfly.

[Kobalt]

im getting nervous...sorry about that kryptobs... ill be getting mine tomorrow :-D

ill skip school friday so i can have a 5 day weekend with this :) monday=teachers grading tuesday = schools being used for election

[kryptobs2000]

yeah, well hopefully I can rma it. Soo dissapointing, it was artifacting just a little bit at 800mhz :(. I have no idea what kind of crappy ram this is. I don't see why they wouldn't take it for rma. Any chance this could be fixed with a bios flash, or.... yeah, well I havn't even heard of anyone else getting their card at 700mhz memory, thats what newegg lists it as, but zipzoomfly and eve evga's own spec sheet lists it as 1100mhz. The 700mhz is severly crippling me I think too. Thats pretty dissapointing.

I tried flashing through windows with nvflash and it says 'this can only be used in dos'

[buff]

I'll be able to play with mine next tuesday.
ZZF lists mine as packed, ready to ship as of this evening. Sadly I am going out of town tommorrow til Sunday night :(

[Tedinde]

yeah, well hopefully I can rma it. Soo dissapointing, it was artifacting just a little bit at 800mhz :(. I have no idea what kind of crappy ram this is. I don't see why they wouldn't take it for rma. Any chance this could be fixed with a bios flash, or.... yeah, well I havn't even heard of anyone else getting their card at 700mhz memory, thats what newegg lists it as, but zipzoomfly and eve evga's own spec sheet lists it as 1100mhz. The 700mhz is severly crippling me I think too. Thats pretty dissapointing.

I tried flashing through windows with nvflash and it says 'this can only be used in dos'


where did you get the card that you got the 700mhz memory. Man that sucks, sorry to say. all 4 that i got from both places are all 325/1100's./

[kryptobs2000]

zipzoomfly, they even list it as 1100mhz memory, had I gotten it from newegg I wouldn't feel so bad, but I felt that it was garenteed that I get 1100mhz on the memory.

I'm not really concerned with rmaing it, it's just really dissapointing, the card is great in every other way. It oc's past 400mhz with the le bios, the highest the temp has ever been is 51c. It barely ever goes over 48c load. I've only had it for a day, but I've ran alot of tests on it and everything, so I think thats pretty close. Coolest 6800 le I've seen. If I get at least a gt I'd be ok with that, but... I dunno :( Maybe if I rma it to evga I'd get an ultra back :banana:

[dwwalker14335]

zipzoomfly, they even list it as 1100mhz memory, had I gotten it from newegg I wouldn't feel so bad, but I felt that it was garenteed that I get 1100mhz on the memory.

I'm not really concerned with rmaing it, it's just really dissapointing, the card is great in every other way. It oc's past 400mhz with the le bios, the highest the temp has ever been is 51c. It barely ever goes over 48c load. I've only had it for a day, but I've ran alot of tests on it and everything, so I think thats pretty close. Coolest 6800 le I've seen. If I get at least a gt I'd be ok with that, but... I dunno :( Maybe if I rma it to evga I'd get an ultra back :banana:

What does the card look like? Does it have the dual white DVI connectors? It is supposed to spec at 325/1100 as a minimum. I would RMA that sucker id it does not. If you call right away, they usually waive the shipping charge. Also, if you provide a credit card, the will overnight you a card, then refund you the amount once they recieve the RMA card.

[kryptobs2000]

Does zipzoomfly do that or evga? I requested a rma from newegg, and am in the process of doing it from evga right now. Seeing which option would be better for me lol. It's 11:20pm here now, so I will give zipzoomfly a call tommarrow. Thanks for the advice.

oh and sorry. It's specs are 325/700, as newegg had it listed. Which kinda worries me, maybe thats what it's supposed to ship at? But it does have dual dvi connectors, has the dual molex's, ultra pcb, ultra cooling everything. Box is the ultra box with limited edition stickers all over it. Same as everyone elses but it has like.. gddr1 or something :mad:

[`schr0et]

mines shipped yesterday it'll be here tommorow :D

[CTKP]

Mine flashed just fine with thugs LE to Ultra bios. With the 1.4v bios i get 435/1200 artifact free, Gonna try the 1.5v tomorrow.

[dwwalker14335]

Does zipzoomfly do that or evga? I requested a rma from newegg, and am in the process of doing it from evga right now. Seeing which option would be better for me lol. It's 11:20pm here now, so I will give zipzoomfly a call tommarrow. Thanks for the advice.

oh and sorry. It's specs are 325/700, as newegg had it listed. Which kinda worries me, maybe thats what it's supposed to ship at? But it does have dual dvi connectors, has the dual molex's, ultra pcb, ultra cooling everything. Box is the ultra box with limited edition stickers all over it. Same as everyone elses but it has like.. gddr1 or something :mad:


Sorry, should have mentioned that important item. Call eVGA directly. I think there is even a sticker on the inside of the box with the 800 number to call. I had a DOA Ultra that they overnighted me a replacement. Called on Tuesday AM, got the card Wednesday AM. Couldn't ask for better service ( at least for one year, anyway)

[BobyTT]

I Just get mine from ZZF , but those guys, are not realy fast as NEWEGG..... next time when i have to buy something from them , i gonna think a little bit more...

[sky]

hey hey, anyone else got a card of zipzoomfly that is/was crippled like the one we're reading of here? i mean, damn, i just ordered one via a friend in the us who only has a mac.. shiat shiat shiat.
just tell me this was an unlucky exception, if not i'm kinda farked real good. dayum - excuse the profanity ;)

oh and please report back what evga made of that rma you have going now. also is there anything on the package / card (whatever) that declares this card as a evga 325/700 instead of the 325/1100 stated on the zipzoom page, like a sticker on the box or some text on the box or any way? because i would need to have my friend looking for this when he receives my card.

thanks

[buff]

hehehe, cant wait......
I want to play Halo and FarCry and HL2at really good graphics:P

[kryptobs2000]

hey hey, anyone else got a card of zipzoomfly that is/was crippled like the one we're reading of here? i mean, damn, i just ordered one via a friend in the us who only has a mac.. shiat shiat shiat.
just tell me this was an unlucky exception, if not i'm kinda farked real good. dayum - excuse the profanity ;)

oh and please report back what evga made of that rma you have going now. also is there anything on the package / card (whatever) that declares this card as a evga 325/700 instead of the 325/1100 stated on the zipzoom page, like a sticker on the box or some text on the box or any way? because i would need to have my friend looking for this when he receives my card.

thanks

The box looks the same, it's an ultra box with limited edition stickers all over. The only thing regarding memory is that is lists that it has 1.6ns gddr3 which it definatly does not.

[sky]

so you think it is a f'kup of the evga people packaging it? yeeez.. i need to get mucho info on this fast, as my pal ordered it this past saturday, so i guess it would be delivered to his home address by now.. hm - he's been out of town. crossing fingers to make it a real limited edition card with the right specs. else 300some bucks down the drain.. ah well..

[dwwalker14335]

so you think it is a f'kup of the evga people packaging it? yeeez.. i need to get mucho info on this fast, as my pal ordered it this past saturday, so i guess it would be delivered to his home address by now.. hm - he's been out of town. crossing fingers to make it a real limited edition card with the right specs. else 300some bucks down the drain.. ah well..

I would think it is a mistake. Kryptobs2000, is it the Ultra form factor? Does it have the dual DVI and double slot design?

[kryptobs2000]

yes it does, it IS a LIMITED EDITION. It's just like everyone elses limited editions. Identicle to an ultra except for the clockspeeds (altho I'm thinking I don't have 1.6ns ddr3 for obvious reasons). I'm going to call evga now, I'll post back what they say.

[`schr0et]

just got mines the sticker that Limited Edition peels off under it, it says Ultra lol.

This is really weird why would EVGA rename Ultra's and sell them cheaper? I thought these things were hard enough to buy @ 600 let alone 300.

Oh and on the back of the Box it says "EVGA.com e-Geforce 6800 Ultra graphics card"

Hehe I'll play with this when I get back from work.

[kryptobs2000]

ok, well I just finished talking to the guy. First he put me on hold and said 'I need to go consult the engineers in the lab' and then he comes back 5-10 min. later and says that he will contact me later (through e-mail) and he needs to go down to the lab and ask the engineers about it. he also said there is an 'update' for it. I'm assuming a bios flash which, I really don't care about because 1.) I can't flash a bios right now cause my floppy drive isn't working and 2.) all a bios flash is going to do is set the default speed at a very artifacty 1100mhz for me I would think. It's now 1:20est I'll call them back around the end of the day, anyone know when they close? and ask if I havn't heard anything abck from them.

Also zipzoomfly sent me an e-mail about my rma request, but I'd much rather deal with evga, since I do not want to have to send my card in through the slow mail, pay for the costs, wait for zipzoomfly to take a look at it, wait for another 4 days for them to process it, and then ship it out with a chance that I'll ahve the same thing happen again.

[`schr0et]

ok, well I just finished talking to the guy. First he put me on hold and said 'I need to go consult the engineers in the lab' and then he comes back 5-10 min. later and says that he will contact me later (through e-mail) and he needs to go down to the lab and ask the engineers about it. he also said there is an 'update' for it. I'm assuming a bios flash which, I really don't care about because 1.) I can't flash a bios right now cause my floppy drive isn't working and 2.) all a bios flash is going to do is set the default speed at a very artifacty 1100mhz for me I would think. It's now 1:20est I'll call them back around the end of the day, anyone know when they close? and ask if I havn't heard anything abck from them.

Also zipzoomfly sent me an e-mail about my rma request, but I'd much rather deal with evga, since I do not want to have to send my card in through the slow mail, pay for the costs, wait for zipzoomfly to take a look at it, wait for another 4 days for them to process it, and then ship it out with a chance that I'll ahve the same thing happen again.

Didn't you read the above posts? One of them said that the original 6800 LE bios cripples OCing and flashing to an Ultra bios fixes that.

You should fix your floppy drive (make sure FDC, floppy disk controller is enabled), flip around the cables making sure the red wire on the floppy is facing closet to the motherboard.

Def don't try to RMA the card without flashing bios.

[kryptobs2000]

Well I know that the le bios cripples the overclock, but I'd assume it'd beable to run stock, and I havn't heard of the bios crippling the memorys overclock. Plus it just bugs me that it came at 700mhz, something is wrong with that.

My floppy drive is connected fine, my mobo llists that it's connected, but it dosn't read disks I don't think, because it will nnot boot from the floppy drive, and in windows it says 'please insert disk' when I try to read a disk.

Should I make a new topic for my 6800 le, or just leave it here? I don't see a point in making one now since most has been said, and it might be nice to keep it all together in one le thread. But then almost a full page is taken with my one problem.

[`schr0et]

Well I know that the le bios cripples the overclock, but I'd assume it'd beable to run stock, and I havn't heard of the bios crippling the memorys overclock. Plus it just bugs me that it came at 700mhz, something is wrong with that.

My floppy drive is connected fine, my mobo llists that it's connected, but it dosn't read disks I don't think, because it will nnot boot from the floppy drive, and in windows it says 'please insert disk' when I try to read a disk.

Should I make a new topic for my 6800 le, or just leave it here? I don't see a point in making one now since most has been said, and it might be nice to keep it all together in one le thread. But then almost a full page is taken with my one problem.

Flip the floppy cables around, if it says Please insert disk it means that FDC is either disabled or your floppy isn't connected properly. Unplug and replug everything for the floppy.

[kryptobs2000]

well my floppy drive isn't gonna work, I don't know whats wrong. maybe the suse boot manager is overiding it or something, and maybe windows sucks, so it won't detect it because... windows sucks

[Carnajo]

Um do you have a CD writer, or flash disk, you can make a bootable CD or bootable flash disk.

[kryptobs2000]

I have a cd burner, but no blank cd's that I know of. I can get one/some and I think I have a cd-rw somewhere. I was just thinking that. And I found out my floppy drive never did work. My friend gave it to me because he never used it, just found out he didn't use it because it didn't work lol. And I've tried to make a bootable cd before, but I could never get the files onto the cd.. well I couldn't get the files. Only way I know to do it is to make a windows floppy disk or w/e (by right clicking and there's some option) and then just coppying those files from the floppy disk to the cd.


if I do use a bootable cd, how can I save my current bios? Since you can't write to the cd from dos. I would really like to beable to back that up in case I do need to rma it. Maybe I will borrow my friends floppy drive later. And I have one somewhere, but I have no idea where.

[sky]

well the booting from floppy process got nothing to do with windows. either your cable is on the wrong way (at either of the two ends - just 4 combinations possible ;) ) or it is disabled in the bios. this might be via two possibilities. a) you disabled the fdc (floppy) controller or b) you don't have the floppy in your bootsequence. hm might aswell be c) the floppy is disabled in the standard bios settings (usually first page where the hdd's and the time is listed) or d) search for floppy is disabled (some advanced page, where the fdc-controller stuff is on). oh or the drive itself might be barfed, but that's pretty seldom the case. atm i'm using a 3.5" drive that is hm.. was taken out of an old 486sx40 - go figure (at least 10 years old) and it's all dusted, but still working.

oh and regarding creating a topic for your own kinda special 6800le ultra be (barfed edition), i'd say just keep it in here... it's family kinda :)

[kryptobs2000]

no, I know everything is working right, it's the first boot device, it is detected by my motherboard, and I don't see how you can connect things the wrong way? They only go in one way, but even the light is shown lit up on the floppy drive, so it has power, and the ide cable only goes one way, and my mobo detects it. It just does not read disks, my friend had the same problem I guess.


And.... I'm taking this thread over it looks like :)

But does anyone think flashing it to an ultra or a gt would really help with the memory clocks? I find that kind of wierd, it's worth a try, but I'm skeptical there will be a diff. If there is then thats great tho.

Core clockwise this card is awsome from my impressions with the le bios, 400mhz easily stable, and the hottest it's ever gotten was 53c I think. I'm running only at 42c right now, and after playing doom 3 for 30+ min. it was at only 47c. I'm really impressed with these temps. I wonder if the voltage is even 1.4v now that I think about it, I can't get the core to artifact, it'll just freeze in games at about 415-425, maybe it's not getting enough voltage, same thing could be with the memory, which is why it won't clock right too.

edit: ambient is always between 30-32c btw

[buff]

what is the best 1.1/1.4 bios for oc'n these cards? I heard that some messed them up...
and what proggy that runs in windows is used to flash?
I havn't used an nividia card since the GF2...........kinda outa the loop

[Kobalt]

your floppy cable is in wrong!!! the side with the red ribbon needs to be on a specific side of the power connector....red ribbon = pin 1. make sure pin 1 and pin 1 on the connector are lined up on both your motherboard and floppy drive.

[kryptobs2000]

I know how to plug in a floppy drive! And there is only one way to plug it in, I don't see how you can plug it in any other way, there are tabs on the end of the ide cables that only let them go in one way. I've used floppy drives before, I doubt this one is any different

[kryptobs2000]

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5056&page=19&pp=15 check out that thread, people are having the same problem as me, some zzf cards come with only 700mhz memory and won't oc at all either.

[sky]

:banana::banana::banana::banana:ty :banana::banana::banana::banana: :banana::banana::banana::banana:, i don't wanna hear that.
well my card arrived at my friends place in chicago, but he has no pc to test it (only some old pentium pro with no agp) or some mac or laptops. argh. i'm trying to make him test it at a friends. but all his friends are mac-tards.. doh.

/browsing the thread over at bleedingedge now.. well 'schroet got a card from zzf that's doing +1100, so NOT all cards from zzf are crippled.

[TEDY]

but fact remains...newegg delivered 99% cards ok while zzf only like 75%....eh ?

[Kobalt]

700 mhz too

WTF

[sky]

anyone got a reply off zzf as to how they'll handle this whole business? after all it is fraud imo. ordering 325/1100 and paying for it, then getting 325/700. that's not worth 300 bux. maybe 250

[Kobalt]

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you agree to that by ordering



everest says its gddr3 memory, but is that because the bios of this names the card as nvida 6800 gddr3 etc etc, or can this program actually detect the type of memory?

maybe flashing works?

[kryptobs2000]

flashing helped someone, but then another person on bleeding edge flashed it and it didn't help, so I dunno. I think evga will do something about it if zzf doesn't. evga lists on their own spec sheet that it has 1.6ns gddr3 and it runs at 1100mhz. If they don't replace our cards, then they will have alot of unhappy customers however sad thing is I doubt they will care, I just will never buy an evga card again. If I were not going to get this I wanted to get a bfg 6800 gt, and I found one for only 350 too, which makes it all the better, but my second choice would have been an evga. So I respect them as a company, I hope they will not let us down.

I wonder where newegg got their listed specs of 325/700 from?

[kryptobs2000]

aparently this message is too short so ignore this


Hey Guys... Great work - I just registered to give you this piece of information. I too got a ZZF LE at 324/702. I just got off the phone with eVGA and the Tech Support gentleman said that they had a lot of calls and would be posting a BIOS to their website which enabled the 325/1100 setting for all of us who have the incorrect timings. All we need to do is register our cards on the website and then call back with our problem and they'll generate a support ticket and send us the BIOS.

This is great new for me at least cause I didn't want to have to RMA my 16x6 card and not get one in return.

EDIT: Based on this info, I used aonic's boot disk and flashed my board with the default LE BIOS and now have speeds of 324/1097. Will do testing later as I don't have easy access to a true system to test this in (i.e. P4-2.8 w/HT) but am working with a PIII 1.4 GHz (AGP 4X) machine which is easily accessible.

edit: oh, oops.. didn't realize my post was the last one anyways, shoulda just edited it. I feel bad for double posting now lol

[Kobalt]

awesome

see...i knew they would fix this

im gonna see how high i can get this thing though! ut2k4 bbl!

[sky]

so ... i guess i'm waiting before running havoc now and hitting my head on my desk, or my keyboard or anything else close by. anyone who has a 325/700 card please report back if this bios (i guess it'll be soon enough available to the wide masses :D ) really does what evga promises.
sorry for going ape on all this business, but i don't want to make my friend go through the process of rma and all and i was fearing i had to... oh well. RELIEF!. man the suspense is getting to me ;)

@kobalt, i'll be looking forward to seeing your results :toast:

[Kobalt]

heres some results...it looks as if with me the bios was just screwey? 325/1150 so far playing ut2k4 no artifacts

edit: 1150 is the max without some articfacts

gonna try with the core now

[kryptobs2000]

Wait, did you overclock it to 1150, or did you flash it and oc it? Cause mine will not overclock past 800mhz without artifacting

[Kobalt]

overclock... did not flash

[kryptobs2000]

well mines different. I just flashed it to a ultra with the 1.4v good news I can overclock the core to 448 and I get no artifacts, at 450 it fails the test? lol, I'm sure thats bs or something, but abd news is, the memory is no ebtter at all. I ran the HL2 video stress test at 448 and afterwards the temp is only 49c and the fan speed is at 60% :). I really love this core on mine, but... the memory takes all the glory of the nice core away.

[Kobalt]

is your memory ddr3? download everest and check under display and then gpu

[ocmyface]

awdhawuihd

mines 325/700 as well :mad:

can someone link me to the ultra BIOS so i can see if it works?

edit: my 6800 says it is A1,16x1,6vp is that correct? i dont really know anything about nvidia

[CTKP]

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5056

The flash kit is the easiest way, and has all the bios preloaded on there.

[kryptobs2000]

awdhawuihd

mines 325/700 as well :mad:

can someone link me to the ultra BIOS so i can see if it works?

edit: my 6800 says it is A1,16x1,6vp is that correct? i dont really know anything about nvidia

yeah thats right but hey, can anyone with the 325/700, tell me their temps. even with the 1.5v gt bios at 460 core I never saw it above 57c. I'm not sure if mines innacurrate or just dosn't run hot for w/e reason.

where do I get everest at btw? I googled it but coudln't find it

edit: I found it n/m

ok, well it says I do have gddr 3. You think maybe one of the molex connectors isn't working right? Or would it then just not work at all? It had to of come clocked at 700 for a reason. And so far, besides one person on bleeding edge, I'm the only one who cannot overclock it to 1100mhz or more, and the other guy didn't even flash his bios, so he still has some hope, but I'm thinking he's the same as me.

[Kobalt]

yea u gotta search like everest utility :)

my temps are around 54 too btw...the temp will go down a lot when you replace the TIM. the heatsink is not very warm, but the gpu is reported at 55ish. i saw the tim connection to the gpu by looking at the gfx card a certain way, and WOW is it disgusting. its totally lopsided and theres a crevice in the middle. not to mention its pretty thick. maybe ill mess with it later, cause i have a 5 day weekend, but it was a horror to install...this things so god damned long


wheres this program where i can screw with the fan speed? and is there a way to flash from windows? i do not want to install a floppy or worry about installing dos :(

[kryptobs2000]

You don't have to install dos, just get that floppy made by.. someone, over on bleeding edge, works really well. And... whats a tim... sorry for the stupid question lol

[ocmyface]

TIM = thermal interface material

IE. artic silver

[Kobalt]

You don't have to install dos, just get that floppy made by.. someone, over on bleeding edge, works really well. And... whats a tim... sorry for the stupid question lol


linky?

[kryptobs2000]

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5056&page=1&pp=15 it's in the first post there, I think towards the bottom.. err in the middle, it's the 'floppy disk image'

[ocmyface]

should i get the 1.4v or 1.5v BIOS?

im using stock cooling

[kryptobs2000]

well hows ur card running temp wise? I'd recommend the 1.4v and then the 1.5v if you want to, your cooling should be fine either way.

Did you get a zzf card (325/700)?

I unplugged my left molex (if I unplug the right one and leave the left in, it just give sa really really high pitched beep and no display). But I'm running it fine, no diff. no artifacts or anything. Maybe the left one supplies some of the ram voltage? I am using the gt bios however, and the gt only has 1 molex, anyone think this is the reason for that? I'm worried about how kanuuk(sp?) said he lost one of his when flashing it to a gt. But if this is my problem, my card has always had it, and I first flashed to an ultra before trying to gt bios anyways.

[ocmyface]

yeah its a gimped ZZF 325/700 :mad:

im at 52GPU and 39 ambient <-- EEK!

[kryptobs2000]

is the 52 load or idle? Well dosn't really matter, ur ambient is kinda high, my case is open though. But you should be fine even with the 1.5v Lemme know how ur memory oc's. Before and after you flash ur bios.

[Kobalt]

do i need a floppy drive for that?

[kryptobs2000]

yes

[ocmyface]

52 idle :x

i jsut got a new case with crappy air flow so high ambient =\

[CrimeDog]

my buddy got two of them that are clocked 700mhz on the core. after the flash they're doing close to 1300.

stop crying and start overclocking

[`schr0et]

:banana::banana::banana::banana:ty :banana::banana::banana::banana: :banana::banana::banana::banana:, i don't wanna hear that.
well my card arrived at my friends place in chicago, but he has no pc to test it (only some old pentium pro with no agp) or some mac or laptops. argh. i'm trying to make him test it at a friends. but all his friends are mac-tards.. doh.

/browsing the thread over at bleedingedge now.. well 'schroet got a card from zzf that's doing +1100, so NOT all cards from zzf are crippled.

I didn't even install my card yet. Just got back from work going to install it in a few mins.

[kryptobs2000]

sounds like I'm the only one that got a zzf card that actually does have shi* ram. The rest can overclock to the correct speed at least :(

[ocmyface]

yup, my ZZF 700 hit 1055 (rivatuner max) before flashing and went through 3dmark05 with only one polygon distortion, im sure my card will rock with a flash :banana:

EDIT: what driver is everyone using? im new to nvidia so i was wondering whats the best driver out now? im using nvidia's latest drivers

[kryptobs2000]

1055 is definatly better than mine, but I doubt you'll beable to clock the memory anymore, but maybe. I don't think the bios affects the memory.

I'm running the 66.81 beta drivers

[ocmyface]

i bet once it burns in ill be hitting stock ultra speeds :crosses fingers:

right now im playing CS:source at 1280x1024 max eveythign with 6xAA and 16xAF with gfx card at 360/1050 and getting aorund 80 fps on aztec :D :D :D so happy

[Kobalt]

i bet once it burns in ill be hitting stock ultra speeds :crosses fingers:

right now im playing CS:source at 1280x1024 max eveythign with 6xAA and 16xAF with gfx card at 360/1050 and getting aorund 80 fps on aztec :D :D :D so happy

nice...i havent played source yet with this card, but i sure as hell know source ate my 9800pro for a snack

[ocmyface]

yeah lmao, but i love my old ATI card :)

gonna trade this one for an x800xt PE once i get this stable at ultra speeds, any Doom3/Far Cry fanatics wanna trade? ;)

[Kobalt]

u play cs a lot? im pretty good....used to be cal-im for a bit. im so good with the awp...it actually takes skill to use...contrary to what many people think. especially when like 4 people rush you it takes skill. i love being up at a in dust 2 or down by the ramp at ct spawn watching long a when i have an awp. the terrorists jump in the pit and i shoot them mid air :). yesterday i shot a guy in the head doing it lol

[Lithan]

Awp takes skill to move and use. Camping with awp takes no skill. Even at close range all you need is an accurate mouse. I like to use it like a shotty. There is no better way to get called a hacker then learn to use awp on the move.

[Kobalt]

ive been playing ut2k4 mostly...but its getting a bit boring. the only really good modes to play on are onslaught (basically build power nodes and try to kill the other teams power CORE) and team deathmatch. i dont really like capture the flag cause theres this thing called a translocator and you can basically teleport around the map which gets extremely annoying. then there are a bunch of other modes that are frustrating...like trying to get this ball in their base lol

i wish hl2 was coming out this tuesday though cause i have off of school....is it released at 12am?

[Lithan]

I bought UT2k4 but never play it because none of my buds own it (same with Doom3). I remember UT was fun with a bunch of guys just running around and slaughtering everything (I'll never understand why people play deathmatch on games like COD:UO that clearly were meant to be played as a team game) and built in bots were always great to have. I'm kind of waiting until CS:Source drops in price, because we aren't paying what it costs now, don't really care much about HL:2, and I really liked CS. (It was what we always played right up until COD came out.)

[kryptobs2000]

ok, well back to the 6800. evga sent me the bios update and like I thought ti didn't work, .. well it worked, but I artifact like crazy still. So hopefully I can rma this. I'm thinking maybe they'll send me a gt if they don't ahve any le's there. How do gt's clock? Think I'll beable to get around 450 out of the core?

[Kobalt]

anything i should know before i goto flash this?



i cant see how to back it up? i just do it in windows right? with the floppy image

[Lithan]

gt's tend to hit between 390 and 440 on core.

[Kobalt]

when i try backing it up, by typing a:\wfflash.exe -s backup.rom , it says format of -s is wrong????????

edit: yea whatever i just put nvflash on there and backed it up. it worked fine...flashed to 6800 GT 1.4v...ill give you results in a bit

[Tedinde]

I need to order 2 more cards. all 4 of mine were 325/1100's, I ordered 2 at the egg and 2 @ zipzoom. Now im gunshy!!! ZipZoom advertises 1100 so you should get that. And i cannot see them refusing an rma, because there is a big difference between 700 and 1100. Has anyone been refused an RMA on here over this??

[TEDY]

why 4 + 2 ?

[Kobalt]

it doesnt really matter for most people...mine clocks fine at 1100 even with the original bios

u live in deleware eh? anywhere near bethany/oceancity/rehobeth

i goto rehobeth at least 3 times a summer...then usually once in the fall or spring

[Tedinde]

http://bios.aonic.net/

I used a self booting CDROM instead of the floppy version and it booted and flashed fine. Way easier than dos or winflash. Boots to the cd then the menu comes up.

Upon reboot my computer searched for a new device and it installed as a 6800 ultra.

The vid card i kept for myself wont fit my sig rig, The DFI, NF3 chip gets in the way with the thermalright NB cooler i have on it. I currently have it in my dual xeon rig. 2.8 "MO"s @ 3.6 ghz on air. It's my folding monster. 4 instances folding away.

I got a big jump in my 03 and 05 3dmark scores, but i score less than the 9800 pro i have in it, is anyone else getting not very impressive 3dmark 01 scores. Or why im not getting good 01 numbers??

[Tedinde]

Thank you whoever wrote the bios. Im stable @ 475x1240 after flashing. 480 or 1250 it wont pass the test button in the "coolbits' overclocking.

That simple flash was a hell of a boost!!!

I just ran through 2001 without an artifact, im running 2003 now stable @ that speed, it's half way through and still no artifacts.

it's done and no artifacting. I cant believe it either!!! Im sure im going to have to post a movie that a stock cooled card is running stable @ this speed. what's the usual overclock for 6800 ultra's??

[kryptobs2000]

I talked to someone at evga and he said 'he'd talk to the engineers and he'd give me a call back sometime today/tonight (it's now 6est)' so hopefully they'll come through. They sound like a pretty good company and they seem to take care of their customers.

My problem is my memory will artifact anythng over about 850mhz give or take for anyone that hasn't payed attention