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3632/3333 on Sandra memory (http://www.geocities.com/adventurevision/3632.htm)
Not bad for an AMD system. ;)
Specs:
AMD XP2400+
Corsair XMS PC3000C2
Epox 8K9A2+
FSB: 235MHz
tweaky
10-31-2002, 02:43 AM
Nice, now where is an 8K9A when you need one :(
Raptor
10-31-2002, 02:48 AM
i really need to get one...
witch bios are you using?
Well can I get one screenshot of that kind, but showing the chipset info in the white space instead of those MB/s infos?!?
Because that seems a little bit of the road for an AMD system... :eek: :confused:
Marci
10-31-2002, 04:24 AM
How was AGP tearing at that speed???
tweaky
10-31-2002, 04:32 AM
Hey Marci any idea when your expecting the 8K9A boards to come in?
Oh and Jeff do you have access to all multipliers with that board?
Jeff,
That is some amazing bandwidth! And with an EPoX no less...how dare you! :D
NoStra
10-31-2002, 05:13 AM
Wow....that is REALLY a good score for an AMD system!
What are your memtimings jeff?
NoStra
10-31-2002, 05:29 AM
This is btw the highest AMD membench I have ever seen!
Originally posted by Marci
How was AGP tearing at that speed???
Now, I'm only using an ATI Xpert but I had NO tearing with this board. On my 8K3A, I ended up using an old PCI graphics card because anything over 204-205MHz would tear and when you got over 210MHz you almost couldn't read the BIOS screens.
I think I had it set for 1x or 2x too, but I'll have to check.
@Raptor: The newest from Oct. 25, 2002.
@TodB: I'll get a screeny with more important info. this evening for you.
@tweaky: I already had this chip in my 8K3A and closed the 5th bridge of L3. I think this board will work without it because I have access to all of the multiplier BUT it thinks my stock multi is 7x(which I'm pretty sure is because of L3). I may test this out by removing the connection but I'm happy right now. ;)
@NoStra: They are pretty much maxed!
Ultra
Manual
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4 Bank
2T
5T
2T
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4 level
1T Command
2T
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The Corsair is at 3.2V and is benefitting from having ducted cold air blown at 84cfm on the MCX462+T. I should also mention that the chipset heatsink benefits from this too. This heat sink is pretty cool btw. Epox has a swanky spring loading system and they actually use thermal compound. :eek:
Just wanted to add that from what I've read, the 8K9A is NOT the same board and shouldn't be expected to perform like the 2A+/3A+. I can't confirm this, it's just what I've read.
Here you go TodB:
3528/3218 Sandra memory score (http://www.geocities.com/adventurevision/3528.htm)
This one is only at 230MHz, but it should have the info you need.
tweaky
10-31-2002, 09:03 AM
Grrr I want that board now!!
Can't wait any longer! Can you bench 3DMark at that speed?;)
Originally posted by tweaky
Can't wait any longer! Can you bench 3DMark at that speed?;)
I'm not really a 3DMark person. I burned it in with some Prime95 and it's now running SETI@home at 220MHz since I loose the onboard LAN between 220-225. :( I also had to step the drive down to PIO around this time too because it wouldn't boot as DMA any longer.
LBJGH
10-31-2002, 09:31 AM
I don't mean to thread crap here but with fsb at 230mhz your pci/agp would be running at 46mhz and 184mhz respectively... you don't have problems with your peripherals? What is the highest fsb that's safe for HD's.
The BIOS says AGP/PCI = 94/47 at 235MHz but I'm a cruncher. I don't have anything hooked up to this except a video card and I have the serial, parallel, usb, etc. all disabled in BIOS.
For what I use this computer for, it's perfect(for me). I'm sure if you put a bunch of components on this thing you'd be limited in your FSB but like I said, I'm a cruncher so I don't need anything else... except maybe a 1/6th divider. ;)
WOW :eek: :eek: :eek:
OK Jeff, you're tha man :)
That's enough for me allrighty :D
Originally posted by Marci
How was AGP tearing at that speed???
Ok, I had it on 1x last night but I just changed to 4x in the BIOS and there is still NO tearing. Looks like they fixed whatever needed fixin'. ;)
I also realized that 233 is my 100% stable setting. I can run Prime95 at 235 for an hour but you can just feel the system instability. It may have something to do with the PCI bus being completely out of whack though, I'm not convinced it's the memory poopin' out.
Originally posted by TodB
OK Jeff, you're tha man :)
Uh, no. ;) Thanks for the thought, but Corsair and especially Epox deserve the credit for the 3600 score. When I bought this board I was just hoping for 3400... 3500 was a dream... and 3600 I never even considered. Awesome work Epox! ;)
(just needs a 1/6th divider or some way of controlling the AGP/PCI bus and I'd consider the board perfect)
MuFf|n M@N
10-31-2002, 02:25 PM
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=22&manufactory=1318&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1 they have 8k9a's in stock :D
mackanz
10-31-2002, 04:44 PM
Jeff, looks like a good board there!
Have you another agp card around to test? What i am after is to see if Radeon 9700 craps out at 200 as it does on Abit KD7.
What voltage options is it on that board/bios? Does Tbreds need to be unlocked on that board (to be able to choose multi)?
What kind of system/cpu temps do you have? Again, referring to the outrageous temps on Abit´s model.
TIA!
Mac
Originally posted by Jeff
Uh, no. ;) Thanks for the thought,....
Well at least you set it up, so you deserve some credit too :D ;)
Originally posted by MuFf|n M@N
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=22&manufactory=1318&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1 they have 8k9a's in stock :D
Over at AOA, an Epox Tech said that the 8K9A is definitely not to be confused with the 8K9A2+. Take that for what it's worth but I would not want to be the one to find out what he's talking about. Now the 8K9A2 may be similar enough to act the same, kind of like the 8K3A+ and the 8K3A.
Yea, I wish they'd explain the whole A, A2, A2+ deal fully. I mean, its obvious that the A's PCB is quite different...but the A2 & A2+'s look nearly the same save some added features. I'd buy an 8K9A if I thought I had a chance of havin the time to play w/ the dern thing...just to see how different it is...but I know I won't have the time to do all the things I already got lined up for myself let alone play w/ a board that EPoX doesn't really care to tell ya much about :)
Originally posted by mackanz
Jeff, looks like a good board there!
Have you another agp card around to test? What i am after is to see if Radeon 9700 craps out at 200 as it does on Abit KD7.
What voltage options is it on that board/bios? Does Tbreds need to be unlocked on that board (to be able to choose multi)?
What kind of system/cpu temps do you have? Again, referring to the outrageous temps on Abit´s model.
TIA!
Mac
Sorry, no decent AGP card to speak of around here. If anybody here is close to Binghamton, NY and wants to test it out(at thier own equipment's risk), I'd be happy to let them. ;)
Voltage options are Vdimm up to 3.2V and Vcore up to 2.0V. I haven't looked to see if a similar Vcore mod. could be done like on the 8KHA/+ but I assume it could.
Unlocking is still a question. I had my XP2400+ in an 8K3A before this so I needed to close the 5th L3 bridge. I didn't clean that off before I used it in this board but I do have access to ALL multipliers. My thought is that it doesn't require this to be done. Maybe I'll clean off the bridge sometime to see(or probably someone else will try it before I do).
Temperature seems ok. I'm a bit :( that Epox went away from letting the internal diode temperature be directly used. I've read elsewhere that the BIOS actually does read it and then "converts" it to a temperature people are more used to dealing with. For those who freaked out about seeing their cores actual(or close to it) temperature... congrats... you won. :(
Drozdov
10-31-2002, 06:31 PM
lookin good dude:D
mackanz
10-31-2002, 11:31 PM
Thanks, Jeff!
I appreciate what you did. Looks like a killer board, but we have to find out how it works with Radeon somehow.
Thanks again, Jeff
Marcus
nelamvr6
11-01-2002, 06:16 PM
Man I'm sitting in a hotel room on dial-up and my new 8K9A2+ is waiting to be mated with my 2400+ at home! Its killing me! :(
I hope I can OC as well as you did, but I have to worry about all my cards running OK. I'll probably be satisfied with 200 x 11, if I can get there.
Good going man! :D
Caprid
11-02-2002, 08:47 AM
Very impressive Jeff. What kinda SETI times you getting with it? Did you bench it yet?
Originally posted by Caprid
Very impressive Jeff. What kinda SETI times you getting with it? Did you bench it yet?
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mulda/phoenix/benchmark.htm
It did our teams reference work unit(.417 angle) in 2.222 while running at 233x10. I benched one a little bit quicker but I'm not going to turn in another result until I come in under 2.200.
I'm not really anti-Intel, but isn't it sad that my rig is 1.2GHz slower than our top guy(who's on Prometeia no less) and I'm only a few minutes behind?
Got to luv the underdog. :banana:
Caprid
11-02-2002, 09:25 AM
You have a link to the benchmark WU? I'm getting around 2.300 - 2.250 running 12x198 on a 0.417ar WU :)
Here's the main benchmark site:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mulda/phoenix/
And here's where you can get the work unit:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mulda/phoenix/instructions.htm
Look forward to seeing your results. :toast:
Not really stable, but kind of neat to see...
240MHz FSB (http://www.geocities.com/adventurevision/240.htm)
A 1/6th divider would be nice. :banana:
zakelwe
11-02-2002, 11:56 PM
Your BIOS is going to be limiting you soon :)
Regards
Andy
GreenBeret
11-03-2002, 06:55 PM
Excellent achievement, Jeff, congratulation ! :toast:
.....but you have some competition ......... ;) from a 8K3A and A-DATA PC3200:
http://www.piopioshardware.com/ocarea/xp1600/piopio1028.htm
http://www.piopioshardware.com/ocarea/xp1600/45-41.gif
Xtreme should update the front page a bit too ;)
:)
Feiticeira
11-04-2002, 01:36 AM
My god i cant believe someone got that high on an 8k3a!!!
I want to know his secret :P
Dave
Well I should point, that Jeff haven't said anything about modding the board and the other guy states something like TurboPLL - JordanPLL...
GreenBeret
11-04-2002, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by TodB
Well I should point, that Jeff haven't said anything about modding the board and the other guy states something like TurboPLL - JordanPLL...
I should point that the JordanPLL the other guy was using only helped him to get over the limitation of the BIOS.
Originally posted by Niko
I should point that the JordanPLL the other guy was using only helped him to get over the limitation of the BIOS.
I'm sure about that, but either way that's some modding of the board.... and jeff hasn't even messed with the PLL :D
JungleMan
11-05-2002, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by NoStra
This is btw the highest AMD membench I have ever seen!
Abits may be killer in 3DMark but there's nothing like an EPOX for Sandra benchies :cool:
Very nice score, VR-Zone got their 8K9A2+ up to 226Mhz FSB, but that was without as much tweaking/OC as you probably did, mind you ;)
NoStra
11-05-2002, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by JungleMan
Abits may be killer in 3DMark but there's nothing like an EPOX for Sandra benchies :cool:
Very nice score, VR-Zone got their 8K9A2+ up to 226Mhz FSB, but that was without as much tweaking/OC as you probably did, mind you ;)
euhhh normally a Abit will get MUCH better memscores in sandra, especially with the same FSB and timings. But this board can run 235Mhz FSB agressive settings...I haven't seen that on a Abit board...
xgman
11-05-2002, 11:55 AM
your 230-235 screenshots seem to have the little "tearing dots" artifacts, but your 240 screenshot didn't. ??
Originally posted by xgman
your 230-235 screenshots seem to have the little "tearing dots" artifacts, but your 240 screenshot didn't. ??
I compressed the .gif down so it wouldn't be a bandwidth hog. I did a better job with the 240 screenshot than the 235 one. :) There isn't any tearing or artifacts with this board and my graphics card.
I just re-compressed them so they are cleaner.
RoydRage
11-06-2002, 05:27 AM
Has anyone found out if you could Vcore Mod this a board to get a little higher than 2.0...
I have one pre-ordered..
Royd
mackanz
11-06-2002, 06:11 AM
Jeff, can you please try and borrow a 9700 or a 4600 and see how high you can go with it? I would almost die for such information. Can you also try and find out the speed of the agp/pcu bus at 240 fsb?What is the rest of the system you have?
Cheers!
Marcus
sysfailur
11-06-2002, 09:45 PM
This thread has made me decide to order a 8k9a2+ tomorrow when they are in stock at newegg... I know what I'll be doing all day tomorrow..... hitting refresh..... JOY.
QuadDamage
11-06-2002, 11:21 PM
at 240fsb agp is @ 97mhz if i remember mine. to bad my xms3000 is holding me back.
sysfailur
11-07-2002, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by QuadDamage
at 240fsb agp is @ 97mhz if i remember mine. to bad my xms3000 is holding me back.
Can't wait to put in my ram *points to sig*. ;)
QuadDamage
11-07-2002, 12:38 AM
yeah i can see. that's what i ordered. i didn't have much luck as my mobo is faulty.
gnxgae
11-08-2002, 12:30 PM
hi to all boys, have I bought from a little also me an epox 8k9a, the bios it is corrupt, don't I know why, does bootblock always go out me, do you know where I can take a bios for my mother sk?
epox rulez
gnxgae,
Welcome to Xtreme :)
I'll give ya a link to a site that should have a BIOS for that motherboard....but I'll mention that the folks that moderate this forum aren't very nice most times ;)
www.aoaforums.com
sysfailur
11-08-2002, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by [N8]
gnxgae,
Welcome to Xtreme :)
I'll give ya a link to a site that should have a BIOS for that motherboard....but I'll mention that the folks that moderate this forum aren't very nice most times ;)
www.aoaforums.com
Most times? hahah try ALL the time.
gnxgae
11-08-2002, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by [N8]
gnxgae,
Welcome to Xtreme :)
I'll give ya a link to a site that should have a BIOS for that motherboard....but I'll mention that the folks that moderate this forum aren't very nice most times ;)
www.aoaforums.com
as not says ;) , thanks