The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread [Archive] - Page 4

donnydorko

12-23-2004, 10:10 PM

Well basically everytime i reboot it will detect new hardware, even though it was detected before. Always something different, alot of the onboard features get detected such as the onboard lan, or sound ect randomly.

Also i get this random beeping noise in windows at random times, a good amount of times... It makes the noise of disconnect device / connect device even though it doenst pop up any message. I even changed the noise in sounds in control panel and it will play that sound instead everytime . So i know windows is for some reason detecting something new...

Any help :D

IvanAndreevich

12-24-2004, 12:12 AM

Sounds like a driver issue to me. Just disable ALL the onboard stuff you are not using in the bios and install 5.10 drivers after a clean install of windows.

What bios, BTW?

donnydorko

12-24-2004, 12:18 AM

1.3 can u link me too those drivers please?

Hombre

12-24-2004, 05:27 AM

I want to flash my current BIOS (1.3), to the official 1.41 I downloaded from Chralie's thread over "Best Of AMD". But when I press the Live Update, an Explorer window shows up and nothing happens (adressbar shows - "file:///c:/Program%20Files/MSI/Live%20Update%203/MSI.htm") :(

What should I do flash it (I DON'T have a floppy!) so I can start my tweaks?! :(
And there are any other 1.41? beta/official/mod? if so can some1 link me?

Thanks in advnace.
Best regards,
Swing

Jack

12-24-2004, 06:45 AM

did you use this prog?

C:\Program Files\MSI\Live Update 3\FlashUty\Award\WinFlash.exe

Just execute and select bios... wait one minute, reboot and you're done

1.41 is a beta bios.
There also is a modded 1.41 bios.
Take a look here (http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html)

Hombre

12-24-2004, 07:22 AM

Jack, we need more people like you in our forums :banana: :toast: :D ;)
So which bios will be better? 1.40 official, 1.41 beta or 1.41 mod?

Thanks in advance.

Jack

12-24-2004, 08:37 AM

i'm just glad i can help others out :)

but i don't know which bios is better.
I'm currently running 1.36 since it seems to work nice with my BH-5.

just flash one of those 3 biosses and test which one works best :)

IvanAndreevich

12-24-2004, 08:54 PM

In 1.41mod, do the voltage options above 10% work?

Jack

12-25-2004, 02:25 AM

bachus_anonym found a way to raise Vcore to 1.78V max, no matter what bios. :)
1.41 Beta mod bios, anyone try it? (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=624916#post624916)

Hombre

12-25-2004, 07:35 AM

Hi!

Some Neo2 settings question, BIOS @ 1.4:

Sideband Adressing - On/Off?
FastWrites - On/Off?
Spread Spectrum - On/Off?
LDT Multi @ 5x/4x/3x? :confused:
Dynamic OCing - On/Off?
Cool&Quiet - On/Off?

And it seems that I can't enter the Advanced options.
I press SHIFT+F2 for few secs, then ALT+F3 and nothing happens.
The red blank goes from Cell menu to "Standart Bios Features".

Thanks in advance, :D
Swing

Jack

12-25-2004, 12:08 PM

Hi!
Sideband Adressing - Off
FastWrites - Off
Spread Spectrum - Off
LDT Multi @ 5x/4x/3x? depends on HTT freq. [HTT*LDT = ~1000-1100]. See Startpost of this topic.
Dynamic OCing - Off
Cool&Quiet - Off if youre gonna OC

daymn i'm spamming this thread ;)

cant help you with the hidden bios options tho'...

IvanAndreevich

12-25-2004, 12:15 PM

Jack
True. However, if I start adjusting FSB @ speeds above 300 in Core Center, comp freezes.

Swing
Do you read the thread, or do you only post ;)

bachus_anonym

12-25-2004, 12:18 PM

Jack
True. However, if I start adjusting FSB @ speeds above 300 in Core Center, comp freezes.
for FSB - use clockgen
for vcore - use CoreCenter

raise vcore first and then FSB... after making adjustments close CoreCenter.easy stuff!

Jack

12-25-2004, 12:18 PM

Jack
True. However, if I start adjusting FSB @ speeds above 300 in Core Center, comp freezes.

why the hell do you use Core Center? :confused:
it makes my pc unstable!
i only use it for screenshots, because it shows temps.

i use Clockgen for adjusting htt :)

***bachus_anonym beat me to it ;)
and as bachus already said, dont leave CoreCenter running in the background.
That program is evil :stick:

Hombre

12-25-2004, 12:19 PM

Yes I read it :rolleyes:

But I just want to be sure before I change anything,
Also I don't know what BIOS ver. those Tips are regarding, the optimal settings can be different from ver. to ver. As for the hidden options... It really didn't work for me.

IvanAndreevich

12-25-2004, 03:11 PM

bachus_anonym
Jack
OK, sounds good ;) I have to say, stability is much better with CoreCenter now. MSI is working on it.

Xiode

12-25-2004, 04:27 PM

Very nice thread! Thanks!

FlyingHamster

12-25-2004, 05:35 PM

hey guys,

just read through the entire 31 pages. took about 45 min.. :)

sooo.. just went to monarch and ordered me a k8n neo2, 3500+ winchester, zalman 7000B-AlCu, and ddr booster. what bios should I give a shot first? 1.36b??

/goes off to read the entire "S939 mobos - known bugs, tweaks and fixes" thread

DevilsRejection

12-25-2004, 06:02 PM

im trying to get the damn raid to work. WHY ISN"T IT WORKING!!!!!!!!!

Minnyboy

12-25-2004, 11:01 PM

what bios should I give a shot first? 1.36b??

Yeah do that. Otherwise just use the latest official 1.4 bios & once you're into Windows, then use Core Center to adjust voltages up to 1.76v-1.8v for Winnies..

So far the best bios imo has been the 1.36. Only when I get in trouble do I start trying out the different bioses.

I'm into my fourth board as we speak, hopefully the 2 dead ones will be back from RMA soon & then I'll just pick & choose through them boards & keep the best 2...

Off we go...

Cheers,
Minnyboy

DevilsRejection

12-26-2004, 01:33 PM

i got a 0412, flashed to 1.36 but my ocz vx is broke so now im going to have to wait for an RMA.

Hombre

12-27-2004, 10:32 AM

In the hidden options:
DRAM Drive Strength (???) - Should I leave it Off/On?
PCI Auto Detect - On/Off?

Thanks! :banana4:

One more question:
Which bios will be better - 1.36BETA or 1.36Mod?

Mana

12-27-2004, 11:29 AM

In the hidden options:
DRAM Drive Strength (???) - Should I leave it Off/On?
PCI Auto Detect - On/Off?

Thanks! :banana4:

leave the pci auto detec on as this locks your pci slots which is essential for overclocking...

as for dram strenth, weak or normal, just set them to either and test...

each board/mem is different

hope this helps :)

Hombre

12-28-2004, 06:07 AM

Thanks, but what does DRAM Drive Strength do? :confused:

Xiode

12-28-2004, 12:56 PM

You might want to try giving a new BIOS a shot. That can definately fix overclocking errors like you described. 1.36b seems to be a very good one, take a look at it.

As for the 6800, I can't help ya there. :(

Jack

12-29-2004, 10:06 AM

Silly did you read the first post of this topic?
Several usefull tips there :)

Did you disable Aggresive Timings?
What serialnumber is your mobo?

And you can always try some other drivers for the vga,
maybe that'll help :)

Razzz

12-29-2004, 12:17 PM

mike.elmes

12-29-2004, 12:41 PM

I have PC4800 TCCD. Problem is that I can only boot my computer at 300fsb, with one memory installed, if i try 2 memorys it won´t boot.
The motherboard is instable at 280fsb with 2 momorys installed.
Have tried several different timings, voltage and so on.
Try sticking that ram in the first 2 slots closest to the cpu. They are different colors, one green one purple... It should boot. :) and be dual channel ;)

Razzz

12-29-2004, 02:09 PM

Try sticking that ram in the first 2 slots closest to the cpu. They are different colors, one green one purple... It should boot. :) and be dual channel ;)

I know, have tried that, it will boot at 290x9 extremly instable. With one memory stick I´II be able to run 3dMark. Strange.
Perhaps buy Abits motherboard instead.

Mitolo

12-30-2004, 12:20 AM

OK got the noob ? of the day.....

2 Sticks of Corsair Value Select 512MB each
My memory is running at 220, 2.5,3,3,8 T1

What the hell is 1:1 ? I dont see that option but every one talks about it :stick:

TridenT

12-30-2004, 06:00 AM

Bad with my bh6´s

I can run at 1T only around 210mhz and around 240 2T with booster 3,4-3,7v. Tried bios 1.36 and 1.37 but cant pass this, any Tips?...

OneyedK

12-30-2004, 06:04 AM

1:1 means running synchronous

RAM fequency:fsb frequency

example: RAM=200Mhz (DDR400) : fsb=200Mhz
is what people call 1:1

(ASUS makes is more correct and more difficult to understand as they call it in their bios 2:1, DDR400:fsb200)

Jeager

12-30-2004, 06:16 AM

ClockGen doesn't work with the MSI ?

http://www.cpuid.com/download/CG-ICS950403.zip
Cant have the clock menu :(

And can i have a link for the 1.3x bios, i cant run my BH at 2/2/2/5 :rolleyes:

Mitolo

12-30-2004, 06:58 AM

Jeager

12-30-2004, 07:02 AM

1:1 is better because the ram and the procesor work synchronous

muzz

12-30-2004, 11:11 AM

ClockGen doesn't work with the MSI ?

http://www.cpuid.com/download/CG-ICS950403.zip
Cant have the clock menu :(

And can i have a link for the 1.3x bios, i cant run my BH at 2/2/2/5 :rolleyes:

Wrong application, thats for the Neo..

For the Neo2, which is NF3 you need this one:

http://www.cpuid.com/download/CG-NVNF3.zip

HTH

m

nealh

12-30-2004, 12:21 PM

What pci slots do you use that do not share an IRQ..Looks like slot 2 and 5 share an IRQ

I have an Audigy2 and an Adaptec 2906 scsi card for scanner...I was going to put them in slot 2 & 3...leave abit more circ around my agp card and make it easier to get to the CMOS jumpers

Mitolo

12-30-2004, 01:07 PM

muzz

12-30-2004, 01:13 PM

ClockGen doesn't work with the MSI ?

http://www.cpuid.com/download/CG-ICS950403.zip
Cant have the clock menu :(

And can i have a link for the 1.3x bios, i cant run my BH at 2/2/2/5 :rolleyes:

Sorry I missed this..

Here is a page with ALL the bios's on it:

http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html

GL

m

muzz

12-30-2004, 01:13 PM

ClockGen doesn't work with the MSI ?

http://www.cpuid.com/download/CG-ICS950403.zip
Cant have the clock menu :(

And can i have a link for the 1.3x bios, i cant run my BH at 2/2/2/5 :rolleyes:

Sorry I missed this..

Here is a page with ALL the bios's for NEO2 (this is a Neo2 thread) on it:

Look at 1.36b(check this one first, ya may not need 1.41) and 1.41mod

http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html

GL

m

[XC] serlv

12-30-2004, 02:47 PM

Hey guys/gals, I'm a first time poster,but a long time reader of the forums here. I find them to be quite helpful when stuck with a problem, or just looking for ideas. Well, I decided to post because I'm stuck with a problem I haven't been able to solve in 4 straight days of trying. Here gos...

This rig is a beast! The 3500+ is an animal to say the least. The problem I have is when trying to go over 225FSB. When reaching an FSB of 225 I get strange glitches and flashes of stuff on the screen. It's really odd and happens with my 6800nu and my 5900XT. Here's what I have tried:

I have tried locking the AGP slot using 66,67,68 and 69. I know 67 is the norm and it does indeed work according to Clock Gen.
I have tried different AGP Aperture sizes in conjunction with the Freq. settings, still no luck.

My next step was to try fastwrites and sideband addressing. Neither of these helped when disabled or enabled. I also tried these in association with the AGP settings I messed with. Nothing...

I have tried all kinds of different memory timings(looser to tighter). I tried it with the 166 divider, which should run the RAM at 191FSB, and still have no luck. This RAM runs Prime stable forever @ 209FSB 1:1 2.5,3,3,7 1T...By using the 166 divider I think I can rule out RAM as a problem because it runs great @ 209...I also tried different memory timings together with some of the changes made above, still nothing.

I then tried messing with HTT multi's of 3x, 4x and 5x...That only made a difference after 209FSB because of the 1000Mhz limit on the HTT Freq.

I'm really kind of lost because it seems no one has ever heard of this before. I am no nOOb to OCing and wouldn't be posting if I thought I could figure it out, but I'm stumped with this one. If there is a configuration out there that will work, the odds of me finding it are the same as winning the lottery IMO...

Another problem I have is really bad hitching and stuttering in games with the 6800 in here. When I put the 5900XT back in, all is well with the stuttering and hitching long gone. I firmly believe there is a hardware conflict between the 68800/Neo2 that causes the jumping and skipping in games and other 3D apps.

That problem is a bit different I guess because it only applies to my 6800. The problem I have getting past 225FSB is happeneing to both cards...And that's the problem that is really bothering me.

I hope someone out there somewhere has some ideas or suggestions for me. I've tried just about everything I can think of, and even more things than I mentioned in this post. If any more info is needed, just let me know. Thanks for your time and patience.

Silly

Perhaps the problem lies in using VS RAM. I mean it does ( PC3200 ) 200 mHZ, it does 210, it does 220, but perhaps it just doesn't have what it takes to do over that. I'm not saying that is the case, but perhaps it is. If you were using TCCD, or some other RAM , I'd assume you could get higher.

Hombre

12-31-2004, 01:50 PM

From your experience, by how much the K8N Neo2 undervolt? Does it change from BIOS to BIOS? Also, I want to know which value I should put in "AGP Aparture Size", my card is 6800GT and currently it's 256MB.

Thanks! :D

Perc

12-31-2004, 03:46 PM

mine under volts BAD!!! at 1.55v and 5.0% over vid i get a mere 1.552v?? im going to try diff bioses but i dont expect it to help much right now im using the 1.41 bios...

peace perc,

funkflix

12-31-2004, 03:51 PM

Perc

12-31-2004, 04:36 PM

Neo2 do not undervolts! The max. settings u can use in Bios is 1,475 + x%!
Anything higher then 1,475V do not work, and switch back to the 1,475V!

As for ur example : 1,475 + 5% = 1,548V

Under load the Neo2 even overvolt a bit! Idle 1,600V Load 1,616V , for
example.

:)

no man i it undervolts big time! when i set it to 1.55v 8.0% over vid i can get it up to 1.6v but thats it. even in the bios it reads 1.6v when set to the following settings. it undervolts man trust me.... ill go try what you saying but im not holding my breath.

peace perc,

funkflix

12-31-2004, 04:46 PM

HEEELLLOOOOO! :rolleyes:

1,475V is the max.! Nothing above that will work! If u set it to 1,55V it is
even 1,475!

U got what i mean? :)

Perc

12-31-2004, 05:39 PM

HEEELLLOOOOO! :rolleyes:

1,475V is the max.! Nothing above that will work! If u set it to 1,55V it is
even 1,475!

U got what i mean? :)

dude dont treat me like a noob the max is NOT 1.45v so chill the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out man. my bios shows it working and it is under volting so back off...

perc,

funkflix

12-31-2004, 05:44 PM

Ok, if u won't believe me, it's not my problem m8! :)

Jupiler

12-31-2004, 05:52 PM

dude dont treat me like a noob the max is NOT 1.45v so chill the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out man. my bios shows it working and it is under volting so back off...

perc,

Watch your language, Perc.

Perc

12-31-2004, 05:56 PM

Watch your language, Perc.

yeah i gues those dancing bannas are going to offend someone.

@grave digger

dude its not that i dont belive you man but you suport your theory with nothing and you act like im some idoit. when i can set the voltages to 1.55v and raise and lower the vid and watch the voltage go up and down in both the bios and cpu-z i tend to believe its working. no need to roll you eyes and act like im stupid cause all im going by is what i see....

peace perc,

funkflix

12-31-2004, 06:03 PM

m8, plz understand that i'm not an perfect english speaker, and maybe my
words look like "i called u an noob". I'm sorry! But if u forget CoreCenter
or all other Win.-Tools, 1,475V ist the highest option u have in Bios, if u
use the x% , too! Thats all i want to say m8! :)

Perc

12-31-2004, 06:06 PM

mad mikee

12-31-2004, 06:40 PM

If so vid over 1.45 = 1.4, 1.4 = 1.36 and so forth.
After 1.45 need %vid to up vcore, winnie screwiness - think this is sorta mentioned up front on the thread now? (Winnie self-defense mechanism?)

Jeager

01-01-2005, 03:54 AM

Here is a page with ALL the bios's for NEO2 (this is a Neo2 thread) on it:
Look at 1.36b(check this one first, ya may not need 1.41) and 1.41mod

http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html

1.36b = 136Mod ?

nealh

01-01-2005, 11:09 AM

let me see if I understand...if you set vcore to 1.5, 1.525 or 1.55v it really is just setting it to 1.475vcore...only way t oreally increase vcore is with the vcore over vid..ie 3.3%, 5% etc

I am using 1.36b

well that explains why 1.475vcore and 8.3% over vid gave same numbers as 1.5v with 8.3% and 1.525v with 8.3%

so is there a disadvantage to setting 1.5v w/8.3% over vid..which is what I have ..should I go back in the bios and set it to 1.475vcore w/8.3%

also do you need to set agp to 67 to lock with the 1.36b, 1.37b, 1.41b....or can you leave it at 66???

DevilsRejection

01-01-2005, 11:15 AM

1.36b = 136Mod ?
nope, just get 1.36, 1.36 mod is not the same. you want 1.36, here is a direct link: http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/7025v136.zip

FlyingHamster

01-01-2005, 11:37 AM

nope, just get 1.36, 1.36 mod is not the same. you want 1.36, here is a direct link: http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/7025v136.zip

oh really? I think a lot of ppl thought what he thought (including me :D) and got the 1.36mod. maybe there should be a link to the 1.36b bios on the first page.

nealh

01-01-2005, 12:18 PM

FlyingHamster I love your sig pic....Hmmm

mad mikee

01-01-2005, 01:02 PM

Also I set AGP to 67 on general principle :D

FlyingHamster

01-01-2005, 01:07 PM

hehe thnx nealh ;)

perhaps u guys could help me out too. my k8n neo came in, and on the NB it says 0440A2 Taiwan. do u think this should be a pretty good performer?

funkflix

01-01-2005, 01:08 PM

perhaps u guys could help me out too. my k8n neo came in, and on the NB it says 0440A2 Taiwan. do u think this should be a pretty good performer?

That have nothing to say. Try it! :)

FlyingHamster

01-01-2005, 03:06 PM

lol I will once my 3500+ comes in. :D

I also got the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu, and was wondering if I have to take off anything on my k8n neo2 before installing it. anyone know?

tbonekot

01-02-2005, 05:45 AM

which Ram is the best for a non-modded neo2?

Xiode

01-02-2005, 06:22 AM

TCCD RAM is. Specifically, the G.Skill LE does wonders. That, or the Patriot /w XBL. Each uses the Samsung TCCD chips with brainpower PCB's.

Also, that new OCZ VX, in combination with Boosters are amazing together, so I hear. I've never tried them myself.

L0$t Pr0PhEt

01-03-2005, 06:07 AM

What memory dividers the msi k8n neo2 have?
thx

Kriller

01-03-2005, 06:44 AM

If I remeber correct you can chose 100/133/166/200 and 200 is 1:1

apostglen46

01-03-2005, 09:08 AM

where can i find modded variants bios????

Which bios works with bh5/6?/////

Jack

01-03-2005, 09:57 AM

where can i find modded variants bios????

Which bios works with bh5/6?/////

dude just read the first post of this topic!

TIP: bios 1.36b and 1.37 and modded variants seem to work best for bh5/bh6

and:

TIP: lots of biosses, incl. beta and modded ones with changelogs (http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html)

:stick:

Xiode

01-03-2005, 01:45 PM

The 1.36b seems to be the most popular ones, followed by the 1.37b, and finally the 1.41.

mad mikee

01-03-2005, 05:21 PM

I also got the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu, and was wondering if I have to take off anything on my k8n neo2 before installing it. anyone know?

Yeah loose the top & bottom (bottom extrusions through the holes muck everything up :mad: (much easier to bottom remove b4 you use it, use hair drier on bottom if needed), then replace bottom plate w/ the zalman and screw in the brass standoffs. Assuming you haven't removed the heatspreader on chip should be good to go. While your at it, redo the paste on the NB and maybe lap it? b4 putting it all in the case.

We await results! :D

nafigator

01-04-2005, 07:05 AM

Anyone know why developers have not added in original Bios support of the function of ventilator management on NB ?

Kriller

01-04-2005, 09:46 AM

Anyone know why developers have not added in original Bios support of the function of ventilator management on NB ?

maybe it has some enorous bug or something?

FlyingHamster

01-04-2005, 11:00 AM

Yeah loose the top & bottom (bottom extrusions through the holes muck everything up :mad: (much easier to bottom remove b4 you use it, use hair drier on bottom if needed), then replace bottom plate w/ the zalman and screw in the brass standoffs. Assuming you haven't removed the heatspreader on chip should be good to go. While your at it, redo the paste on the NB and maybe lap it? b4 putting it all in the case.

We await results! :D

im sorry i dont completely understand what your saying. so I need to take off the msi backplate with a blowdryer, then use the backplate from the zalman?

nafigator

01-04-2005, 11:38 AM

Anyone have noticed the problems? I no :D Apropos after installing bios 1.51mod beside me temperature on 10 gr. fell. You else want to change fan? :bounces:

nealh

01-04-2005, 11:40 AM

Xiode..that sig pic is great..LMAO

Xiode

01-04-2005, 01:52 PM

Thanks. :D

Anyway, I'm thinking of RMAing this board. I'm going to wait until I get my RMAed 3500+ Winnie back, along with some new G.Skill LE which should be here tomorrow. I can't wait! :p

Snowman89

01-05-2005, 12:32 PM

mine refuses to go over 220fsb dc...... on singel i can hit 280 but dc i cant even hit 220......

funkflix

01-05-2005, 12:34 PM

Very bad Northbridge! Try to RMA it or sell it on ebay. ;)

Snowman89

01-05-2005, 12:37 PM

Very bad Northbridge! Try to RMA it or sell it on ebay. ;)
why?
dont think its the nb because with dividers i can hit 410fsb

Garrett

01-05-2005, 01:49 PM

mine refuses to go over 220fsb dc...... on singel i can hit 280 but dc i cant even hit 220......
Mine too... that was with BH-5 @ 3.3v

Pumping 3.6v through it makes it absolutely stable @ 260!

Xiode

01-05-2005, 02:28 PM

Yay, I got my new G.Skill LE from NewEgg today. :D Only problem is, my RMAed 3500+ Winnie won't be here until next week. :(

FlyingHamster

01-05-2005, 02:31 PM

aww man what a shame

where did u get it from? and why did u RMA it?

chipmonk010

01-05-2005, 03:32 PM

hey guys!
ive been learking in this forum for a while and i finnally signed up! im not really new to ocing or anything but i think i may like this forum better then alot of the others out there...
anyway i got this board w/ a 3000+ winnie week 42, just got my gig of gskill le (yay!) today so i can finally run 1:1. right now im running at 9x260 1:1 2340mhz. but i cant get past 260 stable, i dono if its the NB or the mem controller on the winnie. ive tried mutliple bioses, all the hidden options set right, ldt @ 3x blah blah blah. someone said putting new HS compound on the NB might help which i plan on doing. he also said "lap the NB" whats that mean? ive been considering getting a 3200 n trying that but if its the NB then im not gonna get anywhere. oh n i seem to get mem errors at anything over 260 even with mem at or below rated timings so does that point to NB or chip?

thanx all great thread lots of info that already helped me out! :toast:

funkflix

01-05-2005, 03:56 PM

why?
dont think its the nb because with dividers i can hit 410fsb

And friend of me had an Gigabyte nforce3 and can't past 220 with Dualchannel,
with one Stick he can run 285 without any problems. Now he changed to an
MSI and can run max. 303 2.5-4-4-7 1T Dualchannel! There are other Gigabytes
out there who can run the same, but thats the reason why i'm sure, that it is
the northbridge! :)

Riverna

01-05-2005, 04:08 PM

My Gigabyte nForce 3 don´t works over 230 with 1T. I selected 2T and than the gigabyte runs with 275 fsb. Its a crazy board, the msi is not better. It works wonderful with 250fsb and with 300fsb, but with 251 to 299 it runs totally instable. After 2 or 3 seconds in superpi I became the error message :( supid mb

mata2974

01-07-2005, 12:01 PM

i got this board w/ a 3000+ winnie week 42,

Assuming you have done everything you can possibly do, then your bottleneck could be your cooling or the processor itself......looks like week 44-47 is getting best results.

I just got mine, 3200, from ZZF yesterday, its a 447 SPAW, I hope to fly high...wish me luck... :)

chipmonk010

01-07-2005, 04:19 PM

i made some progress! thanks to u guys of course. anyway this got me thinkin.

My Gigabyte nForce 3 don´t works over 230 with 1T. I selected 2T and than the gigabyte runs with 275 fsb. Its a crazy board, the msi is not better. It works wonderful with 250fsb and with 300fsb, but with 251 to 299 it runs totally instable. After 2 or 3 seconds in superpi I became the error message supid mb
i remembered seeing this somewhere and i thought i tried 300 before w/ no post. so i said what the hell set the htt to 301 drop the mult to 7 used the 166 mem divider and what do u know. boots into windows! then runs benchmarks!! superpi, S&M 1.3 fpu test for 20min no probs. sandra cpu and mem. halfway through 3dmark 03 had a restart. bumped the mem voltage from 2.7 to 2.8 makes it through 3dmark 03!!! so i started playing a game for further test but alas after about 10mins restart with a bsod flash (i had this before with mem problems) even tho the mem is running below rated speeds w/ the divider i decided to try setting the command rate to 2t and its priming large FFT's as i type (on the 3rd test) this is amazing! weird board eh i couldnt even get to the windows loading screen at 270 thanks a million guys i would have never thought of this! :toast: :banana:

Riverna

01-07-2005, 04:28 PM

i made some progress! thanks to u guys of course. anyway this got me thinkin.

i remembered seeing this somewhere and i thought i tried 300 before w/ no post. so i said what the hell set the htt to 301 drop the mult to 7 used the 166 mem divider and what do u know. boots into windows! then runs benchmarks!! superpi, S&M 1.3 fpu test for 20min no probs. sandra cpu and mem. halfway through 3dmark 03 had a restart. bumped the mem voltage from 2.7 to 2.8 makes it through 3dmark 03!!! so i started playing a game for further test but alas after about 10mins restart with a bsod flash (i had this before with mem problems) even tho the mem is running below rated speeds w/ the divider i decided to try setting the command rate to 2t and its priming large FFT's as i type (on the 3rd test) this is amazing! weird board eh i couldnt even get to the windows loading screen at 270 thanks a million guys i would have never thought of this! :toast: :banana:

At the Moment I´m use 307FSB 1:1 3-4-4-8 1T. When my system runs with 275 2.5 3-3-7 2T I lose too much performance. 1T with 275FSB would be wonderful. The multi on 9 and 275fsb is running stable but when i use 10 or 9.5 with 250 - 279 than I becom the "not exakt in round" error message after 1 or 2 seconds by superpi.

Is the MemoryController or the Mainboard or my Ram the Problem? I don´t konw :(

mata2974

01-07-2005, 11:52 PM

Whats up with boot menu on this mobo, stays forever loading up, stuck at the memory prompt and Norton Ghost cant see my raid setup.

esdee

01-08-2005, 05:31 AM

ok well sorry for over reacting man. im just frustrated with this mb atm and like i siad to me it looked like it was working maybe im wrong wouldnt be the first time. ill try what you said and see if it helps...

thx perc,

perc listen to gravedigga ... he is right..
try this!

If you have a multimeter connect the negative probe (black) to a molex black wire , and place the possitive probe in the missing capacitor in the left side of the CPU socket
Set the Multimeter to the 2V setting and then try several bios Vcore settings to see what is the real Vcore .

My experience says that you should consider 0.05V more than CPUz reports
:toast:

Byron

01-08-2005, 05:44 AM

Just cheked what esdee said above, i'm getting 1.78idle & 1.79/80 at full load, bios 1.3b6 no mods, just vcore set to 18.3%.

Jeager

01-09-2005, 10:19 AM

Damn the officiel 1.4bios suck. I can only have 1.55+10% (1.64 max in the bios/windows) :(

HARDCORECLOCKER

01-11-2005, 08:00 AM

:banana: Hey You guys all around here - wanna thank You all for You help -
without reading all this stuff here I wouldn't be able to do this:

:D LOOK !!! (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50078) :D

:toast:

Hombre

01-11-2005, 08:11 AM

Again with my settings questions:

Advanced CMOS Features:
System BIOS Cacheable - Off/On?
I put on off (default BIOS 1.36B) but I don't know what it do... I was told it can help stuttering on some games!

AGP Aparture size:
Should I put it on 256M or 512M? My 6800GT has 256MB Vram ofcourse...

Thanks !!! :banana:

nealh

01-11-2005, 10:04 AM

I think 256mg is best...but I can not recall the reason

Hombre

01-12-2005, 02:58 AM

Thanks man.

What about the "BIOS Cacheable"? Do you have a clue?

Thanks in advance :D

LoneWolf

01-12-2005, 06:35 AM

Hi all...long time reader, first time poster...

How accurate do you guys believe Memtest86 or Memtest86+ to be when testing RAM with the Neo2 and other Socket 939 boards?
With the configuration in my sig, I can post at 250FSB, but not boot all the way into Windows (running at 1T-2.5-3-3-8 or 1T 2.5-3-3-10, 4x HTT, and 1.5-1.55v on the CPU, 2.7v on the RAM). At 240FSB, I can boot and run, but shutting down takes forever compared to stock speed, so I don't trust it completely. At 225FSB, things seem to work pretty well. However, at both 240 and 225, Memtest86+ 1.40 gives me a fair amount of RAM errors. I've tested both 240 and 225 with Folding@Home and it has run for hours without failing.
I don't know what chips are on my RAM, just that it's a dual-channel kit of Kingston HyperX PC3200, part number KHX3200AK2/1GR (I've heard rumors that it's Winbond CH5, but it's not proven, specs are at http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KHX3200AK2_1G.pdf ). At stock speeds, it runs fine at 1T-2-3-3-8 (I believe it's spec-ed to run 2-3-3-6, but haven't tried it). Should I try upping the VDIMM? Or is it possible that Memtest86 doesn't truly recognize the way the Athlon 64's onboard memory controller works?

LoneWolf

01-12-2005, 06:38 AM

Thanks man.

What about the "BIOS Cacheable"? Do you have a clue?

Thanks in advance :D

I always run with BIOS cacheable. I don't know if it increases performance as much as it used to in the 386/486 days, but it always added a little more zip.

Plus, you can't do an emergency BIOS hot-swap without it (and yes, I have done this). ;)

mata2974

01-12-2005, 07:48 AM

Your ram most likely cannot handle those high FSB @1T, if it has TCCD chips I would say it could, but seeing that your SPD is loose even at stock I think you are stuck at those speeds. Loosing the timings and running a divider might help, but if you want >250FSB you have to look elsewhere.

LoneWolf

01-12-2005, 11:58 AM

well, I'm now running at 200MHz 1T 2-3-3-6, 5x HTT, no problems, and testing has proven it to be stable. Specs are supposedly 2-3-2-6-1 now that I've read the .PDF, though I don't think that'll change things that much. It seems the auto-timings of the Neo2 were really lax, or the SPD on the RAM is set lax by Kingston, or the board isn't reading the SPD right. I'd think there's got to be a way to go up stably, if my machine booted and ran okay under stress at 225. However, I'm wondering what the tradeoffs are, that is, if what I lose in setting the RAM and HTT speeds is worth gaining the higher processor speeds.

HARDCORECLOCKER

01-12-2005, 01:36 PM

:D Yep - got the same with the A-DATA DDR-600:

SPD 3-5-5-10 at 303 (?) MHZ - BIOS auto detect 3-3-3-6 at ALL speed and running 3-4-4-8 at 300 MHZ.........crazy stuff !!!

:toast:

Judaeus Apella

01-12-2005, 03:32 PM

Im doing the same thing Charlie. Im using a 3500+ to hold me over till the FX-57.

FlyingHamster

01-12-2005, 07:31 PM

AMD Opteron Dual Core @ 2.20+ GHz per/core w/ 90nm w/ 2MB L2 cache (Toledo Core) Q2 of 2005

:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

Judaeus Apella

01-13-2005, 02:22 PM

Uh.. forget that last roadmap...... it might be faulse...... oops. Sorry Hampster! I was the only one I could find......

LoneWolf

01-13-2005, 03:38 PM

Update: Up to 225MHz FSB at 1T, 2.5-4-4-8, now fully stable under Memtest86+ at 2.7v on the memory. There's probably more room left, but I'll run it this way for a little bit then try upping it again.

As for cores, I'd also be interested in Venice. The enhanced memory controller and SSE3 support may up the video encoding performance somewhat.

pcnmechguru

01-14-2005, 02:36 AM

Hello new to these boards but have been a member of Futuremark`s MB for 4 yrs anyway here is my system:
Msi neo2 1.51x bios
Winnie 3200 watercooled TBX block week 0444
BFG 6800 GT OC 256mb
Corsair xmspc3200xlpt 2x512
Audigy2 zs in slot 3
Maxtor 80 gig ide 1
WD SE 80 gig ide 1
Lite-on dvd rom ide 2
Lite-on burner ide 2
pump relay switch
Enermax temp reader and fan controller
4-80 mm fans
2-120 mm fans (radiator cooling)
Truepower 550

ok this is what i have gotten so far : by spd my ram is rated for 2-2-2-5 which i ran stock 200x10 1.4 vcore,2.7 vdimm and ran memtest for 11 hrs and no issues what so ever,i read that this ram will only do 2-2-2-5 to 214 fsb 1:1 well i laxxed the timings a bit and ran 2-5-3-3-7 1T 225 fsb and got 9 memtest errors in 2 hrs

ok now ive gotten these settings stable: 255x10 1.51 vcore, temp at idle 38c load is 49c, timings of 2.5-3-3-7 1T vdimm 2.8,AGP 67 3xHTT and ram is running at 212fsb

ive smacked 2.75mhz 275x10 1.55x10.0% with the 133 divider but temps hit 55c underload

i cant do 225,235,240,245,250 fsb 1:1 without getting errors with timings of 2.5-3-3-7 1T 2.85 vdimm

i have seen on a few sites that my memory might be TCCD but im not sure without pulling my heatsinks off

sticks are in 1+2 and i get the same errors with 3+4 slots at above fsb

should i try laxxing the timings even more or drop my multi to 8 and go up from there this board has got me baffled,not new to o/clocking but this thing is making me pull my hair out, I want higher 1:1 action lol any ideas would be greatly appreciated

the 1.51x bios the best to run on these boards ?

oh and i dont have a fan plugged into the cpu fan header could that be problem ? i dont have boot issue...well i did but its was a bad power cord but thats solved

L0$t Pr0PhEt

01-14-2005, 12:07 PM

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50367

anybody experienced the same problem?
thx

mata2974

01-14-2005, 12:34 PM

TCCD is known to go all the way up to 300HTT with loose timings, the fact that yours craps out might suggest its not. Removing the HS is not all that problematic...

Wingz

01-14-2005, 12:38 PM

my friend's 3200+ can not do anthing over 225+ htt or above either i think its the problem with the winnie as i know some people with the same problem.

if you use only one stick of ram my m8 can do 293HTT 1:1 stable but fails prime and superpi with 2 sticks at around 225htt or above.

btw he's using the OCZ Rev 2 TCCD ram.

pazza316

01-14-2005, 01:16 PM

Hi all,

How on this board do you flash a beta bios from windows. I have a Vapochill I need to update the bios to work with the winchester chip. Is their a utility for this?

Thanks

mata2974

01-14-2005, 01:23 PM

Yes you can safely flash in Windows using Winflash, thats what I use

pazza316

01-14-2005, 01:49 PM

Is this the same Winflash I got on my DFI UT3 drivers Disk? Or do I have to download a different version of Win Flash for the MSI board?

Xiode

01-14-2005, 02:13 PM

Is this the same Winflash I got on my DFI UT3 drivers Disk? Or do I have to download a different version of Win Flash for the MSI board?

The MSI boards all come with their own WinFlash if I'm not mistaken. If you install MSI Live Update on the driver CD included with the mobo, then it's included. Kind of hidden, but included.

C:\ > Program Files > MSI > MSI LiveUpdate > Award > WinFlash

It's something like that. I'm just reciting it from memory. It's been a good month since I've used it.

VoRtAn_MaDgE

01-14-2005, 07:14 PM

Any special bios for tccd that gives the +18% vcore option too?...
Need to freeze my fx55, finally got a cpu kit :)
Tccd testing, brainpower pcb with 2,7v...

http://img34.exs.cx/img34/7066/semttulo5lj.jpg

Anyone with a neo2 that when choosing 2,85v in bios get only 2,7v real in mem's ? (read with a multimeter)

Weird :banana::banana::banana::banana: :confused:

Adasi

01-15-2005, 02:50 AM

Have anyone solved the problem with sub-zero temps on winchester+msi? I read a lot about it but i still don't know if this is a cpu or mobo issue?
I'm quite scared of getting winchester/mobo which won't run with my phase change...

Wingz

01-15-2005, 02:58 AM

FlyBoyGeo

01-15-2005, 09:12 AM

I picked up a Newcastle 3500+ last week so that I can run my prommie...still have not read or heard any concrete fixes for the sub-zero problems with the winchesters.

Wingz, are they suggesting that its a motherboard problem rather than a CPU problem?

Minnyboy

01-15-2005, 06:41 PM

I've got a 0441 3200+ Winnie here that does not like the cold...

I've tried it in 4 different K8N Neo2's to no avail... 2 x 0419 & 2 x 0437 date codes...

Tried it with every bios there is for the K8N Neo2 but no go...

So imo, it's a hit & miss affair with these Winnies & sub-zero temps... Some like it hot & some like it cold...

Currently using a 3500+ NC because of this problem... At least it bloody runs...

Was trying to see if I could get my 3200+ past 250HTT... If it could boot that is... It booted but looks up as soon as it hits Windows... That's about the time it takes for my Vapo PE to hit sub-zero temps...

At least with my 3500+NC, I'm able to run 11 x 250 HTT for a cool 2.75GHz...

Now trying to get rid of one of my Neo2's to wait for the DFI NF4...

Cheers,
Minnyboy

Adasi

01-16-2005, 02:08 AM

Now trying to get rid of one of my Neo2's to wait for the DFI NF4...
Why don't you try epox on nf3?
It looks like i can't buy Neo2 because of the temp issue :( :stick:

BerT

01-17-2005, 01:39 PM

Would buying the 3200+ winchester instead of the 3000+ winchester make any difference ?
Thought both overclock the same ?

FlyBoyGeo

01-17-2005, 01:59 PM

The 3200+ has a higher multiplier which might help with overall overclock.

Minnyboy

01-17-2005, 11:26 PM

Why don't you try epox on nf3?
It looks like i can't buy Neo2 because of the temp issue :( :stick:

I have heard some bad reviews (especially from members here) about the NF3 Epox board...

I still have another 2 Neo2's here to play with... Well, one is in RMA & the other one has 2 smd resistors knocked off when removing my Hyper6... I touched tha resistors & they actually fell off...

It's getting fixed this weekend so hopefully it'll work well with my Vapo & 3200+ Winnie...

If not, then I'll just stick to aircooling & 3200+ Winnie while I wait for funds for the DFI/FX57/X850XT PE PCI-E... Not bad when I can get the PowerColor X850XT PE for US$611 (AUS$812)... Add some VX for US$282 (AUD$375)..

Ahh, the perks of being a reseller here in OZ :D:D:banana:...

Cheers,
Minnyboy

nealh

01-20-2005, 09:11 AM

Minnyboy...what resistors fell off the mobo???

Minnyboy

01-20-2005, 01:13 PM

Minnyboy...what resistors fell off the mobo???

If you look to the right hsf retention, you'll notice a bunch of resistors there.

Well, the 2 by themselves are missing.

I have a knack for knocking resistors off... Did it to my 9800XT a while ago... While prying the stock Intel HSF off....

The Neo2 still boots up & all but I don't wanna damage it any more than I have already... I have heaps of those SMD resistors spare... Around 40 of them... Just waiting for my mate to come over & solder them for me...

I can solder a bit but them resistors are darn small...

I might take a pic of the area where the missing resistors are attach them...

Cheers,
Minnyboy

Kamerat

01-21-2005, 07:42 AM

Does any of the BIOSes work right with LDT/"HT Frequency" below 3x?

neokenzo

01-21-2005, 11:02 AM

Seem this board doesnt like my BH-5. I cant overclock it at 1:1 divider at all.

Minnyboy

01-22-2005, 07:59 PM

Got my board fixed yesterday...

I hope they use 10nf smd resistors on their boards... Certainly looks the same...

C66 & C65 were the ones missing/knocked off... Boots up fine. Just getting to the part where I rebuild my rig again...

Dammit!!! Can't seem to break the 30k barrier in 01... 29,880 is the best I can do... Haven't turned the volts up yet...

neokenzo,
Mosy Neo2's don't OC well with BH5 @ 1:1 without more than 3v... You should know that...

The best I can do with no OCZ Booster & BH5 is only 217MHz (XMS3500) @ 2-3-3-7.. Using 2-2-2-5 @ 2.85v, I can only do 210MHz...MemTest stable...

Cheers,
Minnyboy

FlyBoyGeo

01-23-2005, 06:28 PM

Was wondering what timings you guys using OCZ 3200 EL Rev 2 were using with the Neo2??? Would you mind posting your results and vdimm? Thanks

DeNs

01-23-2005, 06:44 PM

i'm currently running my Neo2 with my OCZ Plat R2 at these settings:

Speed: 275
Timings: 2.5-3-3-7 1T
Voltage: 2.85v

It's good for 277HTT with those settings, memtest stable :)

---dens

FlyingHamster

01-23-2005, 07:30 PM

It's good for 277HTT with those settings, memtest stable :)

---dens

newb question: why do ppl say xxxHTT? is it not the same thing as xxxFSB? just another way of wording it? would appreciate it if somoene could help explain this for meh :p:

wampir

01-24-2005, 04:16 AM

Jack

01-24-2005, 12:24 PM

Could you please check if neo2 can handle such configuration:

winchester 8x300
memory 2,5-3-3-8(X) 1T changed with A64Tweaker to 183 mem divider ( it should be around 275 2,5-3-3-8(x) 1T

and to prove it run spi 16mb

TIA
yeah seems reasonable,
very possible :)

dont have them tho'
so i cant test it for ya

Saulous

01-24-2005, 05:02 PM

Could you please check if neo2 can handle such configuration:

winchester 8x300
memory 2,5-3-3-8(X) 1T changed with A64Tweaker to 183 mem divider ( it should be around 275 2,5-3-3-8(x) 1T

and to prove it run spi 16mb

TIA

Works fine. All in A64 tweaker work fine with my Neo2 when you have booted with higher divider; for example 166->183 does not work but 200->183 works just fine.

daryl

01-25-2005, 01:30 AM

i have a problem with my neo 2:
The mainboard dont recognize my Soundblaster audigy 2 zs.I' tried every pci slot with bios 1.3, 1.36 bitpower and 1.4, but nothing.
Some one can help me?

Karl Norris

01-25-2005, 06:52 PM

Hey all,

I recently tried assembling these and ran into the dreaded cold-temp glitch.

For me the temperature would always read 40C, WinXP would load and freeze or reboot.

I could boot into the bios or run Memtest86 without issue.

I went back on air-cooling and all is fine (2.6ghz, 10.0x260 at 1.55v Vcore).

This was with the 1.41B modified bios (http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html).

I have been contemplating pulling the CPU and RMA'ing it, verses trying the 1.5X bios.

Anyone actually have any luck with this other bios?

What I mean to ask is: Has anyone having this type of problem, updated to this bios and have the problem go away?

Karl

Jack

01-26-2005, 12:48 AM

i have a problem with my neo 2:
The mainboard dont recognize my Soundblaster audigy 2 zs.I' tried every pci slot with bios 1.3, 1.36 bitpower and 1.4, but nothing.
Some one can help me?
pci/agp are clocked i presume?
i havent seen this problem before so
i cant help you out here, sorry

Hey all,

I recently tried assembling these and ran into the dreaded cold-temp glitch.

For me the temperature would always read 40C, WinXP would load and freeze or reboot.

I could boot into the bios or run Memtest86 without issue.

I went back on air-cooling and all is fine (2.6ghz, 10.0x260 at 1.55v Vcore).

This was with the 1.41B modified bios (http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html).

I have been contemplating pulling the CPU and RMA'ing it, verses trying the 1.5X bios.

Anyone actually have any luck with this other bios?

What I mean to ask is: Has anyone having this type of problem, updated to this bios and have the problem go away?

Karl
its a cpu related problem
some winnies like cold others dont

Feinripp

01-26-2005, 01:38 AM

Hi you Nerds out there, whats your opinion to the following OC run..:
Sorry for long post..

assuming there is a rig consisting the following:
Neo2 Platinum Korea CS Bios 136 Mod...
Winchester 3000+ 0440 SPAW
2 X TakeMS 512 MB DDR400 3200 2.5,3,3,8 1T
6600GT , Chieftec 360W PSU with 12V/17A / combined 340W..
along all tests the Coretemp stayed below 55° at load..

HTT @220, Ram 1:1 /220Mhz HT 3x,,2,5.3.3.8 ,,1T,FFoff, agressive etc, all disabled. AGP @67, SpreadSpect. off --> stable..

Same but @230 Mhz , Ram 1:1 --> crash at boot --> ok think Ram is at its end (TakeMs are nown that they usually give up @225 Mhz).
So: Ram Divider to 166:
HTT @ 270 Mhz, RamDiv.166 = 220Mhz, 1,45 V Vcore , other settings as above --> everything fine stresstest etc.., looks stable.

HTT@ 280Mhz other set. as above --> crash, Ram is holding back again..

HTT@280Mhz, Ram133 = 180 Mhz, other settings as above --> stable.. remember still running @Vcore 1,45 Volts

HTT@285Mhz, Ram133, other settings see above --> BSOD: irq notl essor equal uhmm well. maybe the voltage?
Same as above but with 1.6V VCore: --> crash@boot
:confused: voltage seems to make no difference..
What is holding back now? The Rams are @ 186 Mhz or something, so they are underclocked (should work at least @200 Mhz).

Next test:
HTT@285 , Ram Divider 100, 150 Mhz :brick: Vcore back to 1,5 V,
--> stable.. but the Memoryclock.. :eek:

HTT@290, RAM still @150Mhz --> stable
HTT@300, RAM l around 160Mhz --> stable
Htt@310 " " " ,Vcore 1,65V, Vdimm2,85 Voltage doesnt matter --> BSOD
I would highly appreciate listen to your thoughts:
What do you think, is the MCU of the A64 at the end? Or is it the cheap Ram which drops.
If the memclock is around or below ramspecs, is there something which nevertheless loads the memory and can cause failure at high Htts?
The ram works fine @220Mhz but only at low httclocks, the higher the htt the lower the Ramclock must be (far below the specs)..
why?
Next question in mind: i read all the posts of these
:slobber: godmode rigs with high Vcores and that most of them achive better results if they feed more voltage, i personally found that voltage (other than size) does not matter. I reach best result with near stockvoltage, rising the Vcore makes no difference. Why that? Am i missing something?

great forum ..
thx

Karl Norris

01-26-2005, 10:29 AM

Hey Jack,

Thanks. I've come to believe this too from reading through piles of threads :D.

I'm going to RMA the cpu and try again. If it's still intolerant, I'll run it on air-cooled for the short term.

Karl

FlyingHamster

01-26-2005, 01:48 PM

wow my neo2 died.. has anyone else had problems like this before with their board? :(

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51411

wampir

01-28-2005, 01:58 PM

Did you change the original chipset cooling ??? It's very noisy :mad: 5000rpm . Can change it for self made heatsink ( cut heatsink from celeron 466) is there a problem to run with it and overclock ??

charlie

01-29-2005, 01:26 AM

The Swiftech NB Cooler is VERY nice and fits great... may interfere with large GPU, though....

BerT

01-30-2005, 11:26 AM

Ive purchased the neo2 after reading this thread :)

I've hadnt had the chance to overclock because want to have updated all the drivers etc...

But when i connect my new floppy drive ... nothing happends.
I can see the floppy drive in "my computer" but when I dubble click it , it tells me to put a medium or something else in the drive ?
But there is already a floppy in the drive ?

Do i need to install some drivers or etc ...
Anyone had this prob before ?

flenser

01-30-2005, 01:07 PM

stupid question, but...

I can't find my actual pci/agp bus speed anywhere. Even sisoft sandra, which on my other computers reports "agp 4x (4X66 MHZ)", reports only "8x". Is there any other utility that will show pci/agp bus speed? cpuz doesn't, corecell doesn't, speedfan doesn't, everest doesn't. I'd just like to prove that I'm not accidentally upping the speed of the pci bus.

A64 3000+ winchester at 2300mhz, voltage at "auto"
230 FSB
x4 htt mult
2x512 crucial ballistix pc3200 at 230mhz, 2.5 3 3 8, voltage at "auto"
thermalright xp30 with 90mm fan running approx 3100rpm

I still haven't hit the "wall" on OC (corecell rebooted at around 260mhz with those mem timings and air cooling) but even at 230 mhz prime95 reports an error after about 6 hours so I've left it at 230 for now.

Another weird thing - When I manually set a cpu core voltage in the bios, the corecell vcore adjustment works in REVERSE! I damn near fried my cpu. It was manually set to 1.55 in bios, and when I opened corecell it showed 18% over. I dropped it to 0% over in corecell and the voltage jumped to over 2v and reported cpu temps went from 125F to over 160F almost immediately. Almost crapped myself before putting the overvolt setting back to 18% which dropped temps back to normal. It does this in both shipping version and latest version of corecell (1.6.9 and 1.7.something). I'm using 1.4 bios which came installed.

Anyhow, I really need a pointer to a utility that will report pci bus speed. Thanks in advance.

flenser

[XC] serlv

01-30-2005, 01:21 PM

Yeah, get and install ClockGen from cpuid.com. Make sure you get the one for NF3 boards. You don't have to use it to OC, or anything, if you don't want to, but it will show you you're AGP/PCI speeds.

Also, it is my understanding that you should in NO WAY use CoreCell to overclock. Just use it for informational purposes and, even that, with a grain of salt.

flenser

01-30-2005, 11:01 PM

Feinripp

01-31-2005, 01:29 AM

Thanks. At 230 fsb I'm getting a bluescreen reboot with the pci less than equal to error. Dropping to 220 fsb cures that. I'm not sure if it's cpu or memory that is causing it. I have no irq conflicts and the only card installed is an audigy2.

Hi flenser,

IRQ not less or equal it showed i think. Not PCI...

This BSOD often means a problem with memory / adressing, i don´t think its your pci Bus clock which causes the problem. Have a look at ram.

Next: i had also this wierd voltage readings, mine showed sometimes 3,2 Volts Vcore.. in corecell.. this went away with "update" to 1.36mod bios. I dont think that these Voltage readings are for real, its just a fault in measure / reading..also the temperatre readings were way to high..

vkbms

01-31-2005, 04:24 AM

But the subzero boot problem is resolved? I haven't understand it yet ...... :confused:

FlyBoyGeo

01-31-2005, 07:10 AM

But the subzero boot problem is resolved? I haven't understand it yet ...... :confused:

I think right now it is a hit or miss with the sub-zero temp problem. As for me, I am taking a gamble and just ordered a retail 3500+ winnie, in hopes for a new stepping so that I can try with my Mach I. I will definately post, when I get everything set up and tested.

flenser

01-31-2005, 12:49 PM

Right, it was IRQ not PCI, my mistake typing faster than I was thinking.

Memory checks good 8 hours in memtest86 so I'm not sure. The computer only BSODs like that when running this one game... Unfortunately it's the only game I ever play so I'm hosed I think. I thought if memtest was good then it wasn't the memory that was the problem, but I guess not. I've tried running the mem voltage up and down but that doesn't seem to do anything. Maybe I should up the memory timings...

For what it's worth, my AGP/PCI speed is 67/33.5, right where I set it so that's probably not the problem. I thought it might be the vid card but I ran rithdrbl for a few hours and that didn't crash it, ran both rithdrbl and prime95 for a while, and that didn't crash it. It's just that one game that dies at 230 fsb.

I'll probably drop it to 220, open a cream soda, and try to be happy with a crummy 10% OC. I don't use corecell for anything but an occasional test, but since the auto detect bit took it up past 250 fsb before it rebooted, I really thought I'd get more than 220 FSB out of it. The crappy thing is that I really won't be able to tell if it's the memory or the cpu without doing several more days of testing, and even then if it's like now, where everything tests great except for that one game, I'm not sure I'll ever determine what the problem is.

I(illa Bee

02-01-2005, 09:15 AM

I have a 3500+ 90nm and this NEO2 baord on topic here...

Wheneven i set my VID voltage to 1.55, i get 1.55v to my core.. but whenever i set it to say, 1.55v then set the overvolatage to say.... 5% over VID, i get liek 1.43v...WTF? basically, the overvolatge isnt working..

anyhthing i se it to just lowers it, im useing the 1.4 bios, off MSI site..havent tried a Beta BIOS yet..

I(illa Bee

02-01-2005, 09:18 AM

BTW: im currently running

220Htt, 5x LTD, 10 multiplyer, (i just read that if i use Pageup i can change it, so ill try tonight)
2400Mhz
DDR@ 220Mhz 2-2-2-6 2.65v (seems to be overvolting by about .09v)

mata2974

02-01-2005, 03:59 PM

Ive purchased the neo2 after reading this thread But when i connect my new floppy drive ... nothing happends.
I can see the floppy drive in "my computer" but when I dubble click it , it tells me to put a medium or something else in the drive ?
But there is already a floppy in the drive ? Make sure the cables are in the right direction or your floppy is dead....happens a lot of times

I(illa Bee

02-02-2005, 07:09 AM

ok, i bummped it to 2.5Ghz last night,

228x11, 4x LTD, 1.55v (still cant use the +3.3%, +5%, it seems to lowerd the votlage..) But CPU-z Is reporting only 1.47v to CPU? This its reading it wrong? So where is the the point to read PCU votlage with a multimeter anyway? I want to get accurate results...

STRESSTEST

02-02-2005, 06:27 PM

http://stresstest.2y.net/images/dbb/0501.jpg

Welp my buddy just got this today at his work here in WA.
We only had a few minutes to toy with it and managed a post @ 2.6 10x260 1:1 3xHT but he has Kingston hypercrap ram 3700 with an SPD of 3-4-4-8. So it's nothing spectacular. As I said, we only had a few minutes but 240 seemed pretty happy. He'll be on later and we'll see what he ends up with.

-----------------

On my rig I have a 3K+ week 47TPAW running @ 2.61 with a 290FSB 1:1 using the OCZ 3200 plat rev2. Very happy so far. It's been folding for about a week solid, no burps. But I am having problems with my BFG5900u and blue screens when gaming. The windows reporting always points at either the graphics drive specifically or a driver in general. Anyone with known issues on that? Maybe a work around?

http://stresstest.2y.net/images/dbb/AMDOC.jpg

*Sup KillaBee, just saw your post :P

mata2974

02-02-2005, 06:36 PM

but 1.6v @2.6GHz is kinda lukewarm

STRESSTEST

02-02-2005, 07:20 PM

but 1.6v @2.6GHz is kinda lukewarm

Yea, I agree. But the purpose of the post was to ask for help (possibly) with the video issue. I added the caps so ppl could see the specs incase it would help.

This wasn't intended as penis shaking ;)

I(illa Bee

02-02-2005, 10:30 PM

*Sup KillaBee, just saw your post :P

sup :)

but seriously, dose anyone have an awnser for me? I amy RMA it, iv tried liek 5 BIOS version now, none seem to make my +3.3 really add votlage, all of them make it run low?

And dose someone know where i check the Cpu votlage with a DMM?

My PSU is a antec 550watt, moded rails, 3.42v, 5.25v, and 12.5v...mild but good, that under load... So i dont think its my PSU doing it...

I got a screen shot.. dont mind the low HTT, im working on a max CPU then ill max that out with my TCCD... but seriouslty, its set to 1.55v inthe bIOS, and if i set it to auto, then it says, 1.52v!!!!!!!! arrrg that annoying... ..weak IC mabey?
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/KillaBee-3500.JPG

I(illa Bee

02-02-2005, 10:31 PM

Hey Stresstest Where do i know you from, its somewhere i know! Errrrr.....

for some reason, a blue anodized Lian-li is comming to mind???? u perhaps?

editl i JUST REFRESHED MY SCREEN, AND YOU SCREEN SHOTS WENT BYE BYE....!!!!!!!! LOL

I(illa Bee

02-02-2005, 11:31 PM

hmmm, i just set everythign to stock... and CPU-z and the BIOS both are saymy core it now 1.35v.... WTF???

200HTT, Auto CPU votage, 200DDR 2-2-2-5 1t, 2.7v DDR, 5x LTD

wampir

02-03-2005, 12:32 PM

What do you think about it ??

297 2,5-3-3-7-1T

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/lwampir/A64/spi1mb297.jpg

I(illa Bee

02-03-2005, 12:50 PM

nice! can you now, jsut get that multiplyer up and get some real Mhz out of and you will be kicking a$$!

I just re-read the tips for this baord, i must have missed the part that says, this baord is undervolting about .1v on 90nm cores...Maby why mine is low...

lio

02-04-2005, 05:38 AM

can anybody tell me how can i read the vdimm to see if my ocz booster is giving me the right voltage cause i think he is making me trouble

STRESSTEST

02-04-2005, 01:24 PM

HighLife

02-05-2005, 12:33 AM

Just got my Neo2, all i can say it GREAT board....there are a few issues that bother me....I dont like the placement of the CPU at all....its like right over my Video card core. I dont like the way they put all the IDE-Floppy-Power connectors all in a line on the side of the board. That took me the longest to get them all in.

So far im pretty impressed with this board. I came from a A8V too. I wanted a Nforce chipset really bad since I had such good luck with them.

I need to do some more tweaking, but so far im over my max stable overclock with my A8V. :banana4:

Gauss

02-05-2005, 01:12 PM

I have news. I read here that the XP-90 wouldn't fit on the MSI K8N Neo2 when also using Corsair Pro memory (the ones with activity leds). Well, since I got the memory a while ago and I decided do that upgrade without knowing this issue, I was ready to check for myself that, now the news: The Thermalright XP-90 DOES fit on a MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum when using Corsair Pro memory, I'm using a pair of 3200XL Pro memory, the space left between the memory and the heatsink should be about the thickness of a common CD.

However, and don't see the point to use this memory with this setup, the leds can't bee seen since they are totally covered by the XP-90. Well, if you try to look at them through the heatsink you would.

Formann

02-05-2005, 02:20 PM

FlyingHamster

02-05-2005, 02:34 PM

I dont like the way they put all the IDE-Floppy-Power connectors all in a line on the side of the board. That took me the longest to get them all in.

yeah, thats one thing that just about everyone hates :stick:

lio

02-05-2005, 03:13 PM

This MSI is driving me nuts.. :mad:

270HTT 1:1 .. stable

But if I run 183, 166 or 150Mhz divider I cant run more than 220Mhz on RAM.

250HTT 183 div = no go
260HTT 166 div = no go
265HTT 150 div = no go

Im using a Winnie 3200+, and I want more than 2700Mhz. Therefore i need the dividers, but this mobo wont do it. The chip is good for 2900+Mhz under a 404a mach2.

Its a 0411 with Korea 0441 chip. What kind of crap mobo is this??

Worst 1200.- NOK (200$) i ever spent.

Maybe I should get another one? A China maybe?
i have the same problem but i dont think it is the board ithink it is the ram and the memorry controler. when you set the memory to 1:1 200/200 the spd of th memory is differnt from the one 200/166 200/133 and etc obvioslyone of the memorry timing is too agressive at 166 and 133 and we can`t do more than 220mhz. for a pity this memory setting is not listed in the bios not even in a64tweaker cause i tried all kind of settings and still no go. iam using 2x256 bh-5 ram
when i use my pmi turbo ram i still have the same problem but it is not that worst i can do 240mhz prime stable.

what is your ram anyway

can anybody tell me how can i read the vdimm to see if my ocz booster is giving me the right voltage cause i think he is making me trouble

HighLife

02-05-2005, 04:18 PM

i have the same problem but i dont think it is the board ithink it is the ram and the memorry controler. when you set the memory to 1:1 200/200 the spd of th memory is differnt from the one 200/166 200/133 and etc obvioslyone of the memorry timing is too agressive at 166 and 133 and we can`t do more than 220mhz. for a pity this memory setting is not listed in the bios not even in a64tweaker cause i tried all kind of settings and still no go. iam using 2x256 bh-5 ram
when i use my pmi turbo ram i still have the same problem but it is not that worst i can do 240mhz prime stable.

what is your ram anyway

can anybody tell me how can i read the vdimm to see if my ocz booster is giving me the right voltage cause i think he is making me trouble

IM using PQI Turbo (TCCD-437) and Im at 244 right now....primed last night for about 11 hours at 243x9. It bugs me that im stuck here, but it must be my chip. I have just swapped my A8V for the Neo2, with my Asus i was only able to get 240x9, and it was just a tad unstable......UT2k4 would crash....Farcry also....now i played 4 rounds on UT2k4 Onslaught and it ran right through perfectly. So I turned it up to 245 and before windows screen popped up it rebooted itself....so then went to 244 and have been here for a few hours....just did some Sandra benchmarks, ran Aquamark, 3dmark01 and 05. Going to play poker tonight, but will prime it when im gone.

Im running ram 1:1 @ 11-3-3-2.5 and 2.70v.

Formann

02-05-2005, 05:01 PM

i have the same problem but i dont think it is the board ithink it is the ram and the memorry controler. when you set the memory to 1:1 200/200 the spd of th memory is differnt from the one 200/166 200/133 and etc obvioslyone of the memorry timing is too agressive at 166 and 133 and we can`t do more than 220mhz. for a pity this memory setting is not listed in the bios not even in a64tweaker cause i tried all kind of settings and still no go. iam using 2x256 bh-5 ram
when i use my pmi turbo ram i still have the same problem but it is not that worst i can do 240mhz prime stable.

what is your ram anyway

can anybody tell me how can i read the vdimm to see if my ocz booster is giving me the right voltage cause i think he is making me trouble

I have tried 2 different Winnies, and i get the same problem, at the excact same speed. Also i have tried booting with 100, 133, 166 and 200 in BIOS and then adjusting the mem-speed from A64 Tweaker. I have tried different setting in the tweaker for 2-3 days now. No difference.
With a China mobo you can make high htt + divider work if you boot with 1:1 and then set divider with tweaker. One of the differences is read premeable which is higher when booting with divider. 5.5ns with 1:1 and 7.5 with divider.

Im using 2x256 Twinmos BH5, but i have tried some Advance PC3200 also with the same crap result.

Im gonna buy another MSI. A china or taiwan. Hopefully it´ll let me run 295*10 with 183Mhz divider.

BerT

02-06-2005, 04:19 AM

Make sure the cables are in the right direction or your floppy is dead....happens a lot of times

Euhm i tried both directions on the floppy . On the mobo there is only one possible way to connect it. The floppy is new so i dont understand it.
Maybe something in windows or some drivers ... ?

*edit*
Soz forgot to enable ,floppy seek in the bios. :)

Ps: How far are the corecenter temps correct ?

drftkng

02-06-2005, 12:10 PM

I finally figured out an oc'ing problem I was having with my 3200+ on my Neo2. I have three sata HD's, my main windows drive is on sata3 and my two storage drives are on sata1 & sata2. With my Gskill LE I can get it to boot into windows 100% stable at 240 1:1 with all drives connected. If I go one Mhz over 240 it will hang everytime at the windows xp logo. No matter what I do it will not get into windows.

Now If I don't have any of my storage drives hooked into sata1 or sata2 I can take the chip all the way to 265FSB 1:1. This is bumming me out cause I am down one whole HD in my system. Does anyone know a way around this. I am using bios 1.36B

Speedi

02-07-2005, 03:39 AM

Granted, I am a newbie at overclocking... but I cannot seem to get this system stable at anything above 220MHz. I have also failed to get the RAM running at the advertised 2-2-2-5-1T @ 200MHz, 2.75v -- it will always fail Prime95 Torture Test.

1. I am running the RAM at 2-3-2-5-1T @ 215MHz, 2.75V -- rock-solid and stable. Ran Prime95 Torture for 11HRS, ran SuperPI successfully on several occastions and rounded this out with 3DMark05.

2. I have tried increasing Vdimm (to 2.8v) and Vcore (to 1.6v), reducing HT to 4x and even reducing the multiplier to 10x to make the processor run at the 2.2GHz it's supposed to run at... and no dice? It will ALWAYS crash in 3dMark05.

Ideas? Suggestions?

Tx.
- Speedi

I(illa Bee

02-07-2005, 08:32 AM

Granted, I am a newbie at overclocking... but I cannot seem to get this system stable at anything above 220MHz. I have also failed to get the RAM running at the advertised 2-2-2-5-1T @ 200MHz, 2.75v -- it will always fail Prime95 Torture Test.

Dose it post 2-2-2-5-1t, and fail in windows? Also that memory has Samsung TCCD chips on them, a lot of the time it dose not like voltage at all...try running it 2.6 or 2.65v. There are many that overclock way better on less voltage…I’m talking 260+ on only 2.65v…so give it a try..

Also my board under volts my 90nm core a lot. So your CPU might not be stable at stock clocks, due to low voltage, try upping the voltage, My BIOS reading were accurate to what my multimeter told me my CPU voltage was…

2. I have tried increasing Vdimm (to 2.8v) and Vcore (to 1.6v), reducing HT to 4x and even reducing the multiplier to 10x to make the processor run at the 2.2GHz it's supposed to run at... and no dice? It will ALWAYS crash in 3dMark05.

Ideas? Suggestions?

Tx.
- Speedi

Ummm… you have a 3200+ the stock multiplier is 10, you cant go higher, than 10, and you CPUs stock speed is 2.0Ghz, not 2.2, and no one is guaranteeing you a free 200Mhz. Also again, go in a look to see what its reading you CPU voltage as.. Ill bet its a lot lower than 1.6v, I have mine set to 1.55 with the +10% and I only get like 1.63v, I cant remember......

jake7771

02-07-2005, 09:44 AM

:brick: My first post in a forum folks. Been building these boxes a looooong time. Just got my first amd64 3200 90nm and MSI k8n neo 2, stuffed with 2 256 Ballistix sticks, an ati 9800 all in wonder, audigy 2zs, a 74gb raptor and 2 250gb wd hds, and a dual layer dvd burner,juiced with a maddog 550w pumper.. I went the raid 0 route for a while but gave it up when I saw no real benefit after ANandtechs articles and personal tests. Can you say more power.....arr arr arr.. Enough levity.. I have
On the dvice manager ide sata hd tab I have found the enable command queing option. It was unchecked on install. (I loaded xp pro up got all the updates etc.,) I put a check in it and rebooted. I got a burst of 107 and a sustained of 71.4 . Anyone else see this? Also enable read caching is greyed out on this panel, all others are checked such as let bios determine tx mode and enable write caching.
I dualboot with xp64, and all items on this panel, are checked and not greyed out, except that I have to check enable command queing. whew.... I have searched and haven't found anyone with similar posts anywhere. I have the latest bios and nvidia drivers etc. It was the same on previos bios and drivers though. Any thoughts out there?
Also, after switching my raptor from sata1 to sata3 (due to someone earlier mentioning something about pci locks on sata 3and4) I get a BSOD when trying to boot into winxp 64 on D (same hd) or win2000 on the ide master drive. WHY? The BSOD mentions hard drive controllers being new or unsupported and recommends chkdsk /f which I can't do since I can't boot into either of these drives. I installed win2000 on the ide master before I even connected the sata drives initially. How can just switching the sata drive from 1 to 3 cause this? I have disable the ati speed up and run the memory in manual to get the 2225 settings with aggressive time disabled. I am not overclocking at all. :banana4:

lio

02-07-2005, 11:16 AM

With a China mobo you can make high htt + divider work if you boot with 1:1 and then set divider with tweaker. One of the differences is read premeable which is higher when booting with divider. 5.5ns with 1:1 and 7.5 with divider.
r 2-3 days now. No difference.

i tried this but it is not working i boot 1:1 then set a divider and the system crashed
what i found out is that cpu multipliers 8 and 9 a much worst for overclocking the ram than the 7 multi
can you try it and confirm please
it is a pity that my winnie has a maximum of 9 multi so i can`t go 1:1 and reach my 3000+ limit 2700mhz

__________________

Speedi

02-07-2005, 02:03 PM

Dose it post 2-2-2-5-1t, and fail in windows? Also that memory has Samsung TCCD chips on them, a lot of the time it dose not like voltage at all...try running it 2.6 or 2.65v. There are many that overclock way better on less voltage…I’m talking 260+ on only 2.65v…so give it a try..

Also my board under volts my 90nm core a lot. So your CPU might not be stable at stock clocks, due to low voltage, try upping the voltage, My BIOS reading were accurate to what my multimeter told me my CPU voltage was…

Yes, it posts with no problem... and yes, it fails in Windows when running the aforementioned test. The only reason I was giving it voltage was because the packaging actually states "Test results using 2.75v". I'll try to reduce the voltage to see if that helps, at all.

I did notice that setting the Vcore to 1.6v in CoreCell only resulted in like a 1.5v measurement. It was kinda weird... so I'm having trouble realizing what voltage is really being applied. I tried to jack it up to 1.70v in CoreCell realizing that it "appeared" to be undervolting by 0.1v, and it rebooted instantly -- obviously not good.

Ummm… you have a 3200+ the stock multiplier is 10, you cant go higher, than 10, and you CPUs stock speed is 2.0Ghz, not 2.2, and no one is guaranteeing you a free 200Mhz. Also again, go in a look to see what its reading you CPU voltage as.. Ill bet its a lot lower than 1.6v, I have mine set to 1.55 with the +10% and I only get like 1.63v, I cant remember......

No, I have a Winchester 3500+.. the stock multiplier is x11. Let me know what your CMOS settings are for these items. I'd be more than curious to know.

Many thanks!
- Speedi

I(illa Bee

02-07-2005, 02:20 PM

Yes, it posts with no problem... and yes, it fails in Windows when running the aforementioned test. The only reason I was giving it voltage was because the packaging actually states "Test results using 2.75v". I'll try to reduce the voltage to see if that helps, at all.

I did notice that setting the Vcore to 1.6v in CoreCell only resulted in like a 1.5v measurement. It was kinda weird... so I'm having trouble realizing what voltage is really being applied. I tried to jack it up to 1.70v in CoreCell realizing that it "appeared" to be undervolting by 0.1v, and it rebooted instantly -- obviously not good.

No, I have a Winchester 3500+.. the stock multiplier is x11. Let me know what your CMOS settings are for these items. I'd be more than curious to know.

Many thanks!
- Speedi

ohh i thought you had a 3200+ sorry...

Anyways... i run mine, 11x255 4xltd, 1.55v with the VID special at +10% (max in BIOS) memory 1:1 ummm 2-3-3-10, 1t 2.85v....Im useing 1sata (port 4) for my backup drive.. and my raptors are on a PCI RAID card. My CPU has some more in it, but im have problems with the multiplyers working, so my memory is wiggin..my CPU is a week 48...

I(illa Bee

02-07-2005, 09:20 PM

hmmm....iv been playin BFV with thease setting most of the afternoon, hast crashed yet, but why is i memory on 188Mhz??? I set the 5/6 divider (166) at 240 it should be running 400Mhz??? when the system posted it said DDR333 running 200Mhz... any gusses?

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/KillaBee-11x240.JPG

HighLife

02-08-2005, 11:55 AM

Dam did anyone notice that this board doesnt let you max overclock your Video card? I lost a few mhz coming from a A8V to this. Its not that big of a deal, but wondering what would cause this? Maybe since its a Nforce board? Enquiring minds want to know =)

Jack

02-08-2005, 12:04 PM

I(illa Bee use A64tweaker to read out the divider.
maybe you set it wrong?

Dam did anyone notice that this board doesnt let you max overclock your Video card? I lost a few mhz coming from a A8V to this. Its not that big of a deal, but wondering what would cause this? Maybe since its a Nforce board? Enquiring minds want to know =)
jep, read it before, somewhere long time ago...
dont know what you can do about it tho'

flenser

02-08-2005, 03:56 PM

Does anyone know which temps are which when using speedfan?

In particular, I'm getting odd readings for "temp2" and "temp3". I thought "temp2" was the cpu, but despite that temp varying from 48C at idle to 55C at load, my heatsink is always cold to the touch. "temp3" usually sits at 32C at load but jumped up to about 45C when I reduced the speed of my heatsink fan to it's lowest speed, so I'm wondering if temp2 is sensed near my memory (which gets very hot) and temp3 is actually the cpu temp.

I know it's sort of a dumb question, but mbm5 won't even load on my computer for some reason so I am wondering why temp2 doesn't change at all regardless of fan speed, and temp3 rises when I reduce the fan speed. And my heatsink is cool to the touch even after re-seating it twice.

heatsink is XP90, fan is an adjustable 90mm unit, cpu is 3200 winchester running at 9x230 and 1.45v.

TIA

I(illa Bee

02-08-2005, 08:58 PM

I(illa Bee use A64tweaker to read out the divider.
maybe you set it wrong?

Will do...will it let me change the memory speed? or divider in windows? or jsut read it for me...

Minnyboy

02-09-2005, 12:02 AM

This might be off topic but I pulling my hair out atm because of my stupidity...

AARRGGHH!!!!

I was able to get 2 x 3200+ S939 a few months back to get into this winnie thing...

Silly me was expecting to be able get 3200+ S939 whenever I felt like it as I know more than a few distributors here in OZ (being a Tech & all at a computer store...

So, I sold one to my friend for the price I got it for (when i could hiked the the price)... Promised my mate I could get him one so kept my promise...

The other one was sold though the place I work because it was either part with my 3200+ & get the sale or keep it & lose a potential sale...

Man, what a bad decision on my half...

I'm stuck with 3 x 3500+ (2 x 130nm & 1 x 90nm) & 3 x K8N Neo2 mobos...

Now I'm stuck with 3 x 3500+ that don't OC as well as the 3200+ that I had...

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Sorry bout the off topic nbut I had to get that off my chest...

I've also had another K8N neo2 that would freeze on me with both the 130nm & 90nm CPU... Mobo would constantly beep when trying dual channel but amazingly even after sending it back for RMA, it was found to be not faulty...

I wonder WTF MSI do to test the mobo's out.. I'm thinking that they (MSI) only test the mobo with 1 stick of RAM & if it boots, then it's NOT faulty...

What a bunch of $ucks... their Quality Department should but taken out on a rice field & shot... Each & every one of them :mad:.

I'll be firing off an email to MSI in regards to this $h!t

/Vietnamese New Year rant Mode Off...

BerT

02-09-2005, 04:51 AM

Anybody any sugestions about the temp reading of the mobo ?

I(illa Bee

02-09-2005, 07:51 AM

mine is pretty off in the BIOS and MBM reads the same results, I just use a thermal Diot to read... i have mine right next to the core and one drilled into the side of my HS base...

TheMeatFrog

02-09-2005, 12:03 PM

HighLife

02-09-2005, 07:17 PM

I(illa Bee

02-09-2005, 07:46 PM

Trooper_GR

02-09-2005, 11:23 PM

I am trying to play a bit with my Neo 2 board till the PCIEX cards arrive. (DFI is waiting in the box).

I am using a Vapo LS with FX55 and I have come up to some strange behavior. I am using 1.36moded bios atm because it is the only on that gives all available voltages for CPU.

Anywas, before the vapo I was almost default, watercooled, at 11x240. Memory is VX at 3.2volt and 2-2-2-5 1T.

Now I am trying simply to raise the multiplier , to 12 or 13, but nothing. The system boots up fine, I can go to bios etc, but I cannot go to windows! I get a PNF_LIST_CORRUPT error (blue screen). It seems though that the cpu can handle this load. But why it does not boot?

One more thing I tried, using clockgen, I raised the frequency from inside clockgen. It does not give any bsod screens, but when I try to run super pi for example, it immediadly gives an error...

Any ideas?

Thanks

Minnyboy

02-10-2005, 01:27 AM

hey i may have fried my 3500+, i missed when reading voltage with multimeter.I think i shorted the mosfet legs.. If the board powers up without a CPU in it, It jsut comes on without pushin power, as soon as i plug in the PSU. then the baord is good right? But when the CPU is in nothing happens when i push the power button...... Any thoughts, i thought at least it wouldower and not post?

sucks because i allways use my multimeter and never slip like that....

I did that with my old IC7-G/3.0Ghz/Vapo a while back...

Tha damn thing slipped, touched a mosfet * that was the end of my modded IC7-G... I could actually see the burn mark on the mosfet that went sizzling...

I remember smoke & then no video... Luckily my CPU was not dead...

Try your CPU in another rig... I think that only the mobo died... That's what happened with mine...

Hope your CPU didn't cark it... Time for DFI NF4 me thinks :D...

My condolences for your loss...

As for me, I'm testing another 3500+ atm. I'll be testing another 3200+ (finally stock available)... HOORAY!!! Bout time... Been trying to get a hold of one for over 2 months...

I(illa Bee

02-10-2005, 07:05 AM

I did that with my old IC7-G/3.0Ghz/Vapo a while back...

Tha damn thing slipped, touched a mosfet * that was the end of my modded IC7-G... I could actually see the burn mark on the mosfet that went sizzling...

I remember smoke & then no video... Luckily my CPU was not dead...

Try your CPU in another rig... I think that only the mobo died... That's what happened with mine...

Hope your CPU didn't cark it... Time for DFI NF4 me thinks :D...

My condolences for your loss...

As for me, I'm testing another 3500+ atm. I'll be testing another 3200+ (finally stock available)... HOORAY!!! Bout time... Been trying to get a hold of one for over 2 months...

I hope my CPU is Good still, and i would love to go DFI NF4 but i have and AGP GPU i cant seem to get rid of...

HighLife

02-10-2005, 12:08 PM

A couple quick questions....Im using 1.51B bios and prime stable at 244x9 .

I just noticed that setting the AGP to 66 is showing its locked at 66. When i had it to 67, clockgen would show it as 67. Anyone else notice this?

Is there some type of problem with HTT 4x? Im running 244 fsb ram is sync'ed. I see alot of people using 3x and not over 260.

Hmmm i wonder why it says to run AGP at 67....is there something im missing? Clockgen shows it at 67.19 when its set to 67 and it shows 66.04 when its set to 66 in bios. Is there a bug or something im missing?

BerT

02-10-2005, 12:50 PM

If i put ocz ddr booster in dimm 4 i still can only use one dimm ???

I(illa Bee

02-10-2005, 12:52 PM

Hmmm i wonder why it says to run AGP at 67....is there something im missing? Clockgen shows it at 67.19 when its set to 67 and it shows 66.04 when its set to 66 in bios. Is there a bug or something im missing?

I think people set it to 67Mhz to insure the locks take effect, i guss sometime when left default it will not lock thus overclock as you up the HTT speed...

HighLife

02-10-2005, 06:49 PM

I think people set it to 67Mhz to insure the locks take effect, i guss sometime when left default it will not lock thus overclock as you up the HTT speed...

well it would be better if i left it at 66? or would it be better to have it at 67? Clockgen seems to see it at whatever i set it at.

Gauss

02-10-2005, 09:03 PM

Excuse me all please, but I cannot find how the heck the memory divider is changed in the Bios in this board. Please someone, how do I?

My Corsair 3200XL boots fine at 200 MHz, some Corsair xms3500 with BH-5 boots at 166 MHz and I cannot simply change that.

I have succesfully changed the frequency with the A64 tweaker for the BH-5's, but is it possible to boot this memory at 200 MHz doing something in the Bios?

I(illa Bee

02-11-2005, 08:35 AM

well it would be better if i left it at 66? or would it be better to have it at 67? Clockgen seems to see it at whatever i set it at.

If you up you HTT speed, and coolgen is telling you your Agp speed is upping with it, then set t to 67 it will lock like its sospouse to, but you your overclcoking and the AGP is not moveing then leave it at 66..

confuzzedintel

02-11-2005, 10:56 AM

dude dont treat me like a noob the max is NOT 1.45v so chill the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out man. my bios shows it working and it is under volting so back off...

perc,
kinda late but any who i think what he is saying is that 1.475 is max even tho you set the setting higher it will still only give you 1.475v like on gigabyte board you can set a 10 multi on a 3000+ but it only works as a 9 :)

HighLife

02-11-2005, 12:28 PM

If you up you HTT speed, and coolgen is telling you your Agp speed is upping with it, then set t to 67 it will lock like its sospouse to, but you your overclcoking and the AGP is not moveing then leave it at 66..

My video and CPU are overclocked, specs in sig. Clockgen shows it at 66 not matter what i set my video card to.

I(illa Bee

02-11-2005, 12:38 PM

My video and CPU are overclocked, specs in sig. Clockgen shows it at 66 not matter what i set my video card to.

then dont worry about it....some peopel have a problem with it not locking ant runnign at the way to 80Mhz

Karl Norris

02-11-2005, 04:26 PM

I(illa Bee

02-11-2005, 05:23 PM

Well, i just ordered a new Epox 9nda3 board, as i think i killed my NEO2, but it wont post....not sure why i just get FF...i hope my 3500 90nm is shot...

I(illa Bee

02-11-2005, 11:39 PM

hmmm, with the new Epox board it still dosnt post. I may have killed my 3500+....dose anyone know what if would do if the epox baords BIOS is not up to date to support my 90nm?

The MSI board, will not do anything when i push the power buttom. When i remove the CPU, and plug in the power cord it comes on by itself....and dose nothing...

THe Epox board, when the CPU is installed, will power up, but the screeen dose not come one, it dose not post, It never says anythign but "FF" when the CPU is not installed, it will still power up

any thoughts....

BerT

02-12-2005, 05:23 AM

Wich program do you guys use for temp monitoring ?

And Cant normally with the booster in dimm 4 , 2 memory banks still be used ?

neil_010

02-12-2005, 01:23 PM

I have had this board for about a month, so far i'm pretty satisfied with it. Do any of you guys hear a strange high-frequency electrical buzzing noise coming from the board? Its really an odd sort of noise. It seems to fluctuate ... like when i run prime 95 it will increase in volume. The temps in core center seem kinda high ... I have an xp-90 w/ 52cfm fan but still even today in corecenter the temps were going all the way up to 62 degrees celcius, thats with 1.6volts on the cpu. I wish i could get more than 2.5 -2.6 ghz out of this 3200+ , but i can't put anymore volts on this cpu, temps get too high plus i live in florida so that don't help!

BerT

02-12-2005, 02:57 PM

I'm off ocen the board and seem to be stuck at 24O HTT

Freq 3x ed agp 67 etc ..... bios 1.41

But i cant disable spread spectrum in bios? Anyone some info how to disable it ?

Silvestre

02-12-2005, 04:02 PM

have just really noticed...it isn't disabled once we take the fsb up...does it matter? i do remember that it is disabled as we take fsb up on my dfi lpb...hmm, was it?...lost memory...hhahhahaha
btw, hey guys..having trouble here taking the winnie 3000+ to 300x9. right now running with 280MHzx9. AMD 64 is sure is fast with superpi, but not that great with 3dmark2001. my previous athlon xp-m run at 2646 (240x11) did better and it was stable. with winnie, 280x9 ist not so stable sometimes with superpi and it's only like 2520MHz. i'm bit disappointed. my last hope would be new bios, i think...any suggestion? using 141 and it's not so different from the official 1.4. is 1.5x good?

split

02-13-2005, 04:48 AM

Hey all,

I had a failed flash using bios version 1.52 from over here:

http://www.svcheats.com/MSI_Neo_Plat2_939/beta/

I'm RMAing the cpu anyways, so the board is going back too.

Right now the board powers up, and will go for about a second or two and then powers back down.

Karl

I seen someone else with the same problem, so don't *play* with this BIOS unless you have a BIOS savior.
I have also seen someone else claim to use it with no probs at all.

BerT

02-13-2005, 04:48 AM

reached 10x250 with mem@ 250 2-2-2-5 3.3V
And cpu at 1.55-1.6V

Got some errors in windows and reboot pcmark.
So used mem divider to check max out of cpu.

Later on gonna put pc4000 in dualchan , am testing with bh5 512mb ( 1 module )

BerT

02-13-2005, 12:36 PM

http://users.pandora.be/berteke/OC/

Tried with 1x512 MB BH5 and 2* 256 OCZ pc4000

My different oc attemps.
Further I couldnt get.

IcEMaN666

02-15-2005, 04:37 AM

I've a msi k8n neo2 and sometimes i have cold boot issues.
i start the pc, black screen, after a while a beep and my msi says "system is in overclocking safe" or something similar.
i have to enter the bios, save settings and now i can start the pc, even without overclock.
i don't know what to do, i've tried some bios, nothing. anybody with the same problem?

I(illa Bee

02-15-2005, 07:01 AM

Anyone overclcok a 3500+ .13 newcastel core on this baord... ?

Keir

02-15-2005, 01:51 PM

I seen someone else with the same problem, so don't *play* with this BIOS unless you have a BIOS savior.
I have also seen someone else claim to use it with no probs at all.

I too have exactly the same problem. Just bought all new hardware to update my ageing xp1800. Neo2, 3200+ etc. etc. Worked perfectly on first boot, decided to update to the latest beta bios (1.52) before I did anything else and it just switched off after finishing. Now only stays on for about 3 seconds and goes off again. :(

Have now ordered a new bios chip and a bios saviour so I never have to go through this again!

Silvestre

02-16-2005, 06:05 AM

i have flashed the bios couple of times until this moment...and i have not failed...changing from 1.4..1.41...1.51...1.52...1.36mod...back to 1.52...nothing's happened...luck maybe...

wampir

02-16-2005, 06:08 AM

Thats what I got from my neo2

9 x 307 = 2763 Mhz , memory 276 2,5-3-3-7-1T (183 mem div in A64tweaker)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/lwampir/superPi/spi1217.jpg

It's slower only 2s than 9x312 = 2810 and 166 div , 255 2,5-3-3-7-1T
maybe because of my old , many times crashed Winxp .

Keir

02-16-2005, 10:55 AM

i have flashed the bios couple of times until this moment...and i have not failed...changing from 1.4..1.41...1.51...1.52...1.36mod...back to 1.52...nothing's happened...luck maybe...

Did you flash from windows or a boot disk?

I did mine from dos via a boot disk, perhaps thats the problem with 1.52?

Karl Norris

02-17-2005, 08:13 AM

Hey Keir,

I too used the DOS method. Best recommendation would be stay away from 1.52 for now.

Karl

charlie

02-17-2005, 10:20 AM

stay away from 1.52 BIOS

IcEMaN666

02-17-2005, 11:46 AM

anybody with cold boot issues as me?

Keir

02-17-2005, 01:58 PM

stay away from 1.52 BIOS

I will be after my experience! :D

Does anyone know which is the best bios to use for Crucial Ballistix PC4000 memory? I'm not sure what chips are used on these modules.

teArdr0p

02-18-2005, 05:48 PM

i bought a brand new zalman fo my 3500+ i can't remove the 'plate' behind the cpu. Has anyone ever tried it? How come does that s*it comes out?

split

02-18-2005, 06:35 PM

I too have exactly the same problem. Just bought all new hardware to update my ageing xp1800. Neo2, 3200+ etc. etc. Worked perfectly on first boot, decided to update to the latest beta bios (1.52) before I did anything else and it just switched off after finishing. Now only stays on for about 3 seconds and goes off again. :(

Have now ordered a new bios chip and a bios saviour so I never have to go through this again!

Beta BIOS's should be used by those with BIOS saviors only unless lots have success with one.
Obviously not the case with this BIOS.
I have seen (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17274130&page=24&pp=30) a work round that would be worth a try if you had any ram you could try.

1) Hello, I had exactly the same problem with my MSI K8N Neo 2 i flashed to the 1.52 beta bios and had the 3 second problelm, pulling my hair out i tried new PSU, blah blah, the thing that fixed it was removing my Crucial Ballistix PC4000 Ram and sticking some el cheapo PC3200 ram in the, system booted perfectly >?

2) My BIOS just expired whilst updating to 1.52, I will give your method a try to see if I can get it to boot and roll back the update.
YAAAAAY!! Removing my Corsair XLPT and using an old Twinmos 3200 stick has got my machine up and running again so a BIG cheers bud!

Seems the 1.52 likes cheap ram. Go figure :rolleyes:

i bought a brand new zalman fo my 3500+ i can't remove the 'plate' behind the cpu. Has anyone ever tried it? How come does that s*it comes out?
I applied even pressure to the lugs that stick through the motherboard, and mine fell off.
If it's been in use, it may have stuck itself firmer, so heat it with a hairdryer to melt the glue.

Keir

02-19-2005, 04:14 AM

Yeah I saw that too split, been going to that other forum for donkeys years. I've got my bios saviour and new bios chip now so hopefully tonight all will be well. Shame though as I do have some ram in this computer I could have used, but don't need it anymore.

You seem a pretty knowledgeable bloke, any ideas on the best bios for Ballistix PC 4000?

Havoc

02-19-2005, 07:52 AM

What's the best way to increase voltage in this board? The startup vid or the x.x% option? or both?

What would be a safe vcore for a 3000+ winnie cooled by a Zalman 7000A-AlCu?

split

02-19-2005, 08:20 AM

You seem a pretty knowledgeable bloke, any ideas on the best bios for Ballistix PC 4000?

It's going to be T&E I'm afraid.
In the sticky (first post in this thread) it states does not like OCZ EB ram.
Many find that the case, and then you see someone hitting 270+ FSB with it, but others seem to get stuck @ 221.
Now if you read here (http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2145), the chips on the Ballistics are more or less the same as those on the OCZ, so yours might OC well, or it might not.

Note here (http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6517)..
3700 EB and msi k8n neo2 ?
The EB does work on this board in most cases but some people have had troubles. The problem wasn't with the board itself but had to do with the CPU and the memory controller. If you get the combo and it doesn't work out we will help you get everything going

So it may well be that your ram will like your CPU or it won't.

The ram that seems to fly on this board is the Samsung TCCD chips. (G.Skill etc), but you may well be lucky with your Ballistics.
The EB likes volts, so maybe the 1.36 beta.
You got plenty (http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html) to choose from ;)

Keir

02-19-2005, 09:41 AM

Cheers split, a bit slow but just worked out that it's you on OcUK as well, hehe. I'm Kendo on those forums. I'll give the 1.36 a go, got my bios saviour installed so trial and error should be pretty painless now.

BerT

02-19-2005, 11:44 AM

I think my board has died suddenly.
It was working all fine and i decided to put some hds in it ... afterwards the pc booted but the screen wouldn jump on.
Zo i booted without HD but no effect. Then with another graka... nope.
Other memory ??? Nope...

So could it be the motherboard ? Or what can it be ?

Demogorg

02-19-2005, 03:46 PM

what is the best bios for the neo2 right now ? i will get my neo2 and a new winnie 3000+ (pretested on an asus a8v @ 2600 mhz @ 1.55 vcore) i will use my adata vitesta 4000.

split

02-19-2005, 07:37 PM

If you need volts, stick with the 1.36.
Someone over here (http://www.rhcf.com/sisubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/21/9.html) tested some with a DMM, and it seems that some revert to 1.4V when taken past +10% Set.

Best for volts is WE7025NMS.136

+13% Set; Measures 1.64V
+15% Set; Measures 1.7V
+18.3% Set; Measures 1.74V

Demogorg

02-19-2005, 11:22 PM

i think i wont go really higher than 1.65 vcore , the most important would be the most stable oc bios.

what is to say about the temp reading is it correct ?

HighLife

02-20-2005, 01:36 AM

Does anyone have problems with their Firewall? I dont really use it, but when i installed it it gave me all kinds of weird errors.

Karl Norris

02-20-2005, 05:48 AM

Hey IcEMaN666,

To answer your question... yes, I have the cold issue with Winchesters, big time.

I have tried two Winchesters with various bios's with no luck.

I returned my board and cpu and now I'm shopping for replacements.

I am really struggling to figure out what to do. I have a very nice 6800gt and so I'm not excited to move to the DFI nForce4 board. It seems like the nForce3's are hard to find (at least the Neo Platinum2's).

I want to run it with my new LightSpeed. But it seems weird. The Winchesters don't like the cold, but run almost as fast as the Newcastles on stock air cooling. So do I park the LS and stay on air, or camp where I am at for now (754 pin, 3200+ on air at 2.4ghz) and hope the vendors figure out the root-cause to the cold issue.

Oh, what to do?

Karl

Formann

02-20-2005, 02:27 PM

Karl Norris

02-20-2005, 03:30 PM

Hey Formann,

I guess I will.

My last board was from Newegg.com and should have been a new one, but perhaps not.

They are outof stock right now, when they restock I will order.

Karl

neuvas

02-21-2005, 10:24 AM

guys quick question....

whats the best BIOS for using UTT?

CP-Geek

02-21-2005, 03:53 PM

quick answer: In my case NON!

I've tried EVERY bios I could find, won't even post with 2x512 UTT's. Same CPU, same UTT's did 255 HTT 1:1 on MSI K8T Neo2, but K8N.. no way. I'm stuck with my 2x256 BH-5's. I really would need a gig of mem :(

Karl Norris

02-22-2005, 05:11 PM

Hey all,

Against my better judgement I ordered a new Neo2 and Winchester 3500+ (retail) today.

Wish me luck.

What are the opinions on the best BIOS to use with the LightSpeed? 1.5x or 1.51?

Can I flash bios while under the phase cooler or should I do first when on air cooling? (Given the cold glitch...)

I'm thinking that I'll run it in for a while on air cooling. Flash the bios, run it some more, and then move it over to the cold... :D.

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated!

Karl

pazza316

02-22-2005, 05:17 PM

Bios 1.5x worked well for me with my LS.

Minnyboy

02-22-2005, 05:56 PM

Damn IT!!! Got a Vapo PE & Vapo Classic yet they're both sitting there gathering dust now that I've got 3200/3500 Winnies:mad::mad:...

Both are 0451 CBBID models, can't remember the other letters but they're not that bad on air.... Well, the 3500+ can do 2.6GHz & the 3200+ can do 2.5Ghz... That's a lot better than the last few I've had....

Suckers just won't do the right thing under sub-zero temps... I've been through 3 x 3200+ & 3 x 3500+ (2 x NC 1 x Winnie) & they all suck hard with sub-zero cooling & K8N neo2...

I've also been through 5 x K8N Neo2's & only 1 of them has been good so far... It's a 0437 model... The others just plain suck...

2 x 0420 & 2 x 0410 K8N Neo2...

Back to watercooling for my main rig & aircooling for my secondary rig...

Even with the 1.5x series bios it doesn't help one bit... P.O.S...IMO...Well, 4 of the Neo2's I've had are anyways...

One UnHappy OverClocker :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Minnyboy

BTW: MSI should have had the solution fixed by now with a bios update considering many ppl with K8N Neo2's are at the top of the ORB.... Well a month or 2 back...

Karl Norris

02-23-2005, 04:29 AM

Hey Minnyboy,

Sorry to hear of your frustration.

One fellow who was stuck flashed back and forth to 1.5x a couple times and got his system to work. No idea why. A triple-flash workaround.

It's such a pain to pull everything apart to build-up phase cooler only to have it lock-up or reset with the cold glitch.

I think he was flashing with the phase cooler from a bootable cdrom... can't find the link right now...

EDITED: Here it is: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53533&page=1&pp=25

Karl

kimandsally

02-23-2005, 09:03 AM

Hi some time ago there was a great walkthrough on installing xp on the msi neo2, I have spent the last 4 hours trying to find it, there were links from Ocuk to this site but every link just takes me to the first page it no longer takes me to the bit I'm looking for.
I can't remember who wrote it but I think his avatar began with ( R ) it was a very thorough guide which made it virtually impossible to not get it right.

I'm needing it as I have 2 x sata drives which I want to run xp on one and put programs on the other, I had managed to do it but can't remember how, my mate came round and in his wisdom played with my bios then it said something like no operating system, I disconected the drive with my programs on then the remaining drive with xp on it works fine, I have tried various options but it no longer works with the 2 drives.

I know less than nothing about raid so I'm a bit stuck to say the least.

If someone knows where the thread is I would be pleased to death.

Cheers.

krampak

02-23-2005, 02:43 PM

I've just tried a 200:133 divisor, this mobo is insane :eek:

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/1277/391fsb4mi.th.jpg (http://img58.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img58&image=391fsb4mi.jpg)

Any mod there.

Does anybody now why I can do 391Mhz with clockgen but If I set 285Mhz or higher in the BIOS it doesn't boot?

vkbms

02-24-2005, 07:05 AM

What's the max voltage that i can obtain with ocz ddr booster ?

Cossey

02-24-2005, 07:58 AM

What's the max voltage that i can obtain with ocz ddr booster ?
3.4-3.5v any higher and it wont post although you can bump the voltage up afterwards and it works fine.

vkbms

02-24-2005, 09:08 AM

3.4-3.5v any higher and it wont post although you can bump the voltage up afterwards and it works fine.

sorry but i can't understand english very well....if i put voltage higher than 3.5v mobo doesn't start? If during post i'll put 3.4v and after i increase the voltage works fine?.... please explain me... 10x....

bachus_anonym

02-24-2005, 09:14 AM

sorry but i can't understand english very well....if i put voltage higher than 3.5v mobo doesn't start? If during post i'll put 3.4v and after i increase the voltage works fine?.... please explain me... 10x....
Actually, in my case I experience this quite further... Maximum "bootable" vdimm I get using DDR Booster is 3.9v (I set it while sitting on the BIOS screen). After setting it to 4.0v the system boots but can't load Windows.

Yes, just find your maximum too... Set e.g. 3.4v while in BIOS and then when you're in Windows you are free to raise it higher ;) Be careful....

Good luck