Prescott Extreme Edition Shows Up at Newegg...

[Kunaak]

don't complain about the price cause you already know...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-187&depa=0

[Lithan]

Unless they clock like the devil is shoving a pitchfork up their asses, they are crap. Honestly, why put up with the 775 crap and the lacking performance and problems with prescott when you can build a cheaper 3.2ee 478 rig?


How many people will buy this because they have heard that EE's are so great. Will a 3.2c beat it in most of the Intel-centric Benches?

[EmineM]

Sure its 90nm?

Why is the VR Zone P4 S775 EE ES 3.4 ghz 130nm then?
http://www.vr-zone.com/index.cgi?i=989&s=2

here there two types of EEs for S775?
Cause I see no difference

[saaya]

those peeps over at newegg just cant get rid of their brainfarts eh :rolleyes:


Cache: L2/512K; L3/ 2MB
Voltage: 0.956V-1.052V
Process: 90 nm


doesnt make any sence!

512kb L2=northwood/gallatin
2mb L3=northwood/gallatin (afaik the prescott ee will have 3mb or more)
0.956-1.052v=??? wth? even a low voltage mobile prescott needs more than that!
90nm=pescott

its def a 775 pentium 4 EE with gallatin core!

the next 775ee will be a 3.47ghz and 1066 quad pumped bus (266fsb) gallatin core as well. only after that we will finally see a prescott ee (if we ever will...)

[Reflex1]

1066 quad pumped bus can't wait ... :slobber: :slobber:

[Iridium192_217]

How does it compare to the other EEs?

[skate2snow]

It does not sound like a real P4EE Prescott, but if it does really have those features, it might be VERY good...

L2 512 sounds perfect to me w/ L3 2Mb, so it lets more room for the overclocking, and the 0.95-1.0V sounds pretty nice since we know that we should have no problems to run a Prescott/90Nm core to 1.5V....

To me, it just sounds like it could overclock pretty good. But I doubt it does really have the features as said...

[hallowen]

I hope Someone Else gives it a try, 'cause I'm still working on assembling my 3.4E EO ES Rig!:cool:

Like to try One, But Spent too much $$$ already trying to "Ascend The Ladder".

Know What I Mean?:p:

[-=TriX=-]

Jeezus, look at the price tag, over a grand!

[skate2snow]

That is not the first EE over a grand ;)

[Soulburner]

That is also not the first Prescott to be rated at that voltage.

They all say that, but thats not what they really run at.

[skate2snow]

Thats why I said this :
But I doubt it does really have the features as said...

[bito]

I thought i read somewhere that the Prescott EE's would have 2mb Level 2 cache......

[saaya]

yeah, forgot about that, they have more l2 cache not l3 cache... or maybe they have more l2 and l3 cache? prescott could really need that.

[Donnie27]

http://www.silentpcreview.com/news409.html


An X-bit Labs article posted last week says Intel will offer 90nm products for socket 478, and also introduce some 130nm (Northwood core) processors for socket 775 (socket-T). To summarize,

For socket 478, well get more high end P4s -- P4EE-3.6 (NW), P4E-3.6 & 3.8 (Prescott), and Celerons (w/256Kb cache) up to 3.46GHz. There's also new slower P4-2.26 & 2.4 (533MHz / 512KB cache Prescott w/o Hyperthreading).


For socket-T, there's low end NW: 2.8C, 3.0C & 3.2C (800MHz / 512Kb cache). And high end NW: P4EE 3.2 & 3.46 (1066MHz / 2Mb cache).

None of these models have been in previous processor roadmaps but were revealed to Intel's partners in an announcement about new packaging for tray processors. Finally, "It is not clear whether the “unexpected” central processing units will be supplied into retail market, or will be available in limited quantities to selected computer makers."

From our PoV, the expansion of "low end" (read: cooler) processors on both 478 and 775 platforms is a good thing, allowing for quieter systems, especially in SFF where the thermal challenges of the Prescott virtually eliminated 775 from the quiet race.

So there'll be Northwood and P4EE Sc-775, only real question is will Intel ship 1066 FSB Northwood? They've already said P4EE will ship with 1066.

http://www.theregister.com/2004/08/09/intel_p4ee_720/

http://www.techimo.com/newsapp/index.pl?cat=&stype=1&thumb=1&si=prescott&perpage=20&sort=1&user=

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17724

Pictured here.

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20040807/etc_p4ex775.html

Yes it is a Gallatin.

Donnie

[lutjens]

I doubt they'll ship Northwood with 1066 MHz...simply because if they keep it to the Socket 775 chips, it becomes a mechanism to force people to upgrade to the new platform.

Also, there is no Intel-validated chipset to run a Socket 478 chip at 1066 MHz and we won't see one.

[Kunaak]

Abit and Anandtech both had a interesting idea abour the 1066 certification.
see, they found that upping the voltage just alittle almost bypasses the OC lock on those boards.
they think it could be as easy as BIOS revision to make these boards 1066 certified, alittle touch of voltage and thats all it needs.

533 DDR2 ram is already standard.
may not be JEDEC approved, but almost all DDR2 starts at 533.
theres got to be alittle more then coincedence to the northbridge voltages and how much it changed the overclockability of the 915 and 925 boards, and that almost all DDR2 ram from the start was 533 (dual channel 533 is 1066)

[lutjens]

That is all it needs to get the board to work at 1066 MHz in reality.

Intel considers this a whole new chipset and it represents an excuse to get people to buy their motherboards again with the official "approved" Intel 1066 MHz chipset. New motherboards based on the 1066 MHz chipset will probably be visually indistinguishable from current ones.

The two chipsets will be identical, but Intel wants you to pay again for the privilege of having 1066MHz and knowing that 1066MHz is easy for current boards, instituted the overclocking lock to force users to pay. They don't want you to have the extra performance for free. And my guess is that they'll be dealing with all motherboard makers that defeat the lock by threatening to refuse to sell them any more chipsets, as they have done time and time again in the past.

Which would be the Intel way...:rolleyes:

[boshi]

Last time I saw something that ran at 1066, it was RDRAM, and look where that is :rolleyes:.

I'll be sticking to my 478, thank you.

[snowymainer]

no, RDRAM / DDR & DDR 2 are 2 totally different thing. RDRAM is junk. DDR is the way to go!

[Kunaak]

Originally posted by boshi
Last time I saw something that ran at 1066, it was RDRAM, and look where that is :rolleyes:.

I'll be sticking to my 478, thank you.

1066RD isn't the same thing.
that had a total bandwidth of 4.2 gigs.

a 1066 FSB has a total bandwidth of 8.4 gig.
(DDR 4200 is 4.2 gigs, times 2=8.4 theoretical)