Presenting "The Beast II"

[nikhsub1]

Thought I would post here too, making the rounds :D This is the king of overkill.

Well, I have been very busy the last week or so. I decided to build another system, based on the old system, those not familiar with the old, see HERE (http://www.netbetty.com/H20/cube/outside/mobo.jpg). Anyway, I don't have much commentary yet... you can see a build log HERE (http://www.anonforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95).
Parts:
Thermochill 120.3
Various fans - 6 Sanyo Denki 120mm's on the rad - Panaflo and Mechatronics round out the fannage.
Cascade SS
3 Laing D4's/Swiftech MCP650 in series
Tygon R-1000 Tubing, the softest, stickiest most bendable tubing I have ever used, blows R-3603 away IMO, but more $$$$
Mountain Mods U2 UFO Powdercoated Black
Various other stuff I can't even remember, lol.

Now for some pics:

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/almost/front.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/almost/mobo2.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/almost/mobo1.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/almost/pumps1.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/almost/pumps2.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/almost/pumpsclose.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/almost/rad.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/almost/rear.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/complete/c1.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/complete/c2.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/complete/c3.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/complete/c4.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/complete/c6.jpg

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/complete/c7.jpg

[Karnivore]

Very nice! I've wanted one of those MountainMod Cubes since they first went for sale.. Just, always seems a piece of the system needs upgrade more then a new case...

Really nice setup, one of these days......

[billyboy]

hey nikhsub1, probably a silly question, but are you australian. where did you get your Thermochill radiator from? I've been trying to find one in australia with no luck

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by billyboy
hey nikhsub1, probably a silly question, but are you australian. where did you get your Thermochill radiator from? I've been trying to find one in australia with no luck
Nope, not from Oz... I would imaging someone over at OCAU forums may know where to get one.

[The_Dark_Hacker]

talk about overkill. thermochill 120.3 rad, 3 laing d4 for a cpu block.

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by The_Dark_Hacker
talk about overkill.
Yes, discuss.

[chunkylover77]

Whats the matter with overkill? Looks sweet to me.

[freecableguy]

Very nice setup. I would like the see the pumps displayed better and also a more professional method for sealing the fans to the HE120.3.

[The_Dark_Hacker]

same here. too messy for my taste
:toast:

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by freecableguy
Very nice setup. I would like the see the pumps displayed better and also a more professional method for sealing the fans to the HE120.3.
I tried various config's with the pumps, I concluded this was the best way in terms of hose routing. I would have loved to have the lined up in a row, but not enough room... the fans on the 120.3 are on their shrouds, bolted to the rad. I just put that strip of aluminum tape down the side, thought it looked OK, that tape is just there for looks, nothing else. Here is a pic with no tape, you like it better?

http://www.anonforums.com/builds/blackcube/radinstall/ra3.jpg

[EnJoY]

Wayyy too many pumps. For half the cash you spent on them you could have got a Blueline HD20 and had the same performance...with less noise and heat no less! Nice cpu block and rad though, truly an exotic setup you've got there. Looks great!

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by EnJoY
Wayyy too many pumps. For half the cash you spent on them you could have got a Blueline HD20 and had the same performance...with less noise and heat no less!
Hmm, these statements perplex me. HD20 has max head of 13 feet, consumes 45W. Same performance as 3 D4's eh? Well we can do the math OK? Each D4 has a max head of 10 feet at 12v. 3 x 10 = 30 foot max head. Power consumption is about 18W per pump at 12v so that is 54W of consumption for the 3 pumps. Noise? I can't hear these pumps at all, even with no fans running. I have had many Iwakis and the D4's I have are all quieter than the Iwakis I've owned.

HD20 - 13 foot max head - 45W
3 D4's - 30 foot max head - 54W

Hey if the HD20 looks better to ya, go for it.

[EnJoY]

I recind my previous comment... ;)

What kind of idle/load temps are you getting with that Cascade SS? What's the cpu and what's your oc?

[[XC]thewildblue]

Nice setup.

[freecableguy]

Yes, I like it better without the aluminum down the side of the rad. Why did you add it? Black is much more elegant.

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by freecableguy
Yes, I like it better without the aluminum down the side of the rad. Why did you add it? Black is much more elegant.
Just an afterthought... I may just remove it altogether.

[freecableguy]

Please share your source on the Tygon-1000. Outer wall thickness? 3/4" like the 3603?

BTW, I will post some pictures of my system soon as well. My case isn't quite as big but it packs a punch.

[Gogeta]

Originally posted by nikhsub1
Hmm, these statements perplex me. HD20 has max head of 13 feet, consumes 45W. Same performance as 3 D4's eh? Well we can do the math OK? Each D4 has a max head of 10 feet at 12v. 3 x 10 = 30 foot max head. Power consumption is about 18W per pump at 12v so that is 54W of consumption for the 3 pumps. Noise? I can't hear these pumps at all, even with no fans running. I have had many Iwakis and the D4's I have are all quieter than the Iwakis I've owned.

HD20 - 13 foot max head - 45W
3 D4's - 30 foot max head - 54W

Hey if the HD20 looks better to ya, go for it.

I applaud you for not flying off the handle and actually taking the time to explain why the 3 D4's are better...note the lack of tension/hard feelings. Everyone makes mistakes.

Anyways...killer case nikhsub1. Are those fan controllers DIY, or modded Vantecs? You did a really nice job getting the front panel components to blend in together.

[Arkangyl]

why only one radiator???

[snowwie]

Originally posted by freecableguy
Please share your source on the Tygon-1000. Outer wall thickness? 3/4" like the 3603?

BTW, I will post some pictures of my system soon as well. My case isn't quite as big but it packs a punch.

try mcmaster.com

many varieties of tygon/PVC tubing there

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by Arkangyl
why only one radiator??? No space for a second... my previous cube had 2 dtek cores... The girth of the 120.3 is amazing and for what I'm doing is way more than enough.

[chunkylover77]

Nikhsub if I were cooling the cpu and gpu what would be better. The 120.3 or dual heatercores?

[The_Dark_Hacker]

if i were you i would replace all the 120mm fans with the delta screamers that are 59 DB and 190 CFM!! be sure to buy some earplugs if you do that though

[Master_G]

A 120.3 rad seems a touch like overkill for with just a CPU on it, you've only got to dissipate 150W max, add a graphics card block would justify the 120.3 a lot more in my eyes, especially with 6fans on it. Plumbing it in might be a bit tight but i think that 2 pumps and a 120.3 screams out for more than just a CPU block, after that stick a passive heatsink on the northbridge and you can cut 2 fans from your setup and make more use of your seriously nice watercooling.
Great setup though, it looks seriously cool.

G

[chunkylover77]

He plans on adding a vid card later. I think I read that he doesn't have a good vid card at the moment.

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by Master_G
A 120.3 rad seems a touch like overkill for with just a CPU on it, you've only got to dissipate 150W max, add a graphics card block would justify the 120.3 a lot more in my eyes, especially with 6fans on it. Plumbing it in might be a bit tight but i think that 2 pumps and a 120.3 screams out for more than just a CPU block, after that stick a passive heatsink on the northbridge and you can cut 2 fans from your setup and make more use of your seriously nice watercooling.
Great setup though, it looks seriously cool.

G
Yes it is overkill! That is the whole point.... 2 pumps? I guess you missed the fact that there are 3 pumps.

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by chunkylover77
Nikhsub if I were cooling the cpu and gpu what would be better. The 120.3 or dual heatercores? I guess it would depend on the cores... the 120.3 is thinner (this is a good thing) than most 2" thick heater cores. This definately helps with the airflow. I get better temps now, but that could be due to the pumps as well.

[Master_G]

Originally posted by nikhsub1
.... 2 pumps? I guess you missed the fact that there are 3 pumps.
LMAO what a tard! I must actually read and look carefully rather than just skimming through everything!
It does make my point more applicable though so at least i got something out of it.

G

[chunkylover77]

It would be this core. http://www.voyeurmods.com/index.php?action=item&id=658&prevaction=category&previd=23&prevstart=0

[kommando]

This is the XTREME Systems website peeps...

[Master_G]

You do make a very good point.
Overkill rocks, its why i come here.

G

[WeaponX]

I was just going to say dude, totally uncalled for...

Nikhsub, that is one of thee most impressive systems I have ever seen bro. Very sleek and color cordinated. It can't just be all show no go though right? What are your overclock and temps on this killer rig?

[Jethro]

The only overkill i see is waaay to much airflow IMHO. I mess with big rad's here at my place and ive found that to much fannage gets u diminishing returns quickly and nothing more than a bunch of noise. A few lower rpm 120 panaflos with shroud on a rad that size would be almost just as effective relative to ambient for clocking and be significantly quieter.

Ive tested some very highspeed fans out on big rads and unless your rad really sucks azz more/faster fans are quite pointless and fruitless. You would have to add some serious heat say maybe a peltier to justify such a fan arrangement. In the case of big rads dropping the Ambient temp of the room increases performance 10x more than any amount of airflow.

Even adding my fx5900 to the loop as hot as they get still doesnt even work my 10x6x1.75 5/8's nip rad i currently use. It has just one quiet but decent cfm AC fan and shroud on it and barely gets warm while my temps are fantastic.


Sorry if im being critical just that i feel for your ears and you have everything right there to enjoy super performance while still having a quiet badazz looking pc. Just my 2c!


Very good looking spaceheater er i mean rig indeed man! get some more blocks and work that thing! :D

[nikhsub1]

Jethro, I hear you, that is why I have 2 fan controllers :D I have all 6 rad fans, and the fan in front of the pumps (Panaflo M1A) each on their own channel. The 8th channel is for the cold cathodes. These Sanyo Denki's on the rad are suprisingly quiet, and, I don't run them at full speed.

[Arkangyl]

nikhsub, I KNOW you can jam more rads in there, what about Micro's on the exaust (or are the 120mm = Xtreme's) mount the rad xternally and I'd think you could get a Black Ice Xtreme on the main exaust and a Micro II on the HD area exaust.

and where you're at throwing in a NB block might help the OC more than super CPU-age...