View Full Version : GF4 water cooling goodness! PICS.
morphling1
10-09-2002, 12:59 PM
Now that I finished my waterblocks testing, I found some time today to finish my Gf4 universal waterblock I designed it to fit on all reference 4200 /4400,4600 cards. At least I took measurments from those cards, and on friday I'll get the card to check everything if it fit corectly.
Enough bable here is the block:
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/GF4%20001.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/Gf4%20002.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/Gf4%20003.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/Gf4%20004.jpg
morphling1
10-09-2002, 12:59 PM
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/Gf4%20005.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/Gf4%20006.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/Gf4%20007.jpg
I still need to finnished cold plate for other side for block mounting and a little better finnish on those surfaces.
RichBa5tard
10-12-2002, 04:44 AM
Awesome job, as always. :D
At what price are you goign to sell them?
TheDude
10-12-2002, 06:13 AM
Very Professional looking piece of hand crafted work!:D
Once you get that polished up it will look amazing!
Awesome job man! :toast:
PS can I afford one?:D
Silversink
10-12-2002, 11:42 AM
Thats damn nice!!!!!
You know what I was thinkin? with 75% of that being synthetic material it may be a good idea to add some turbulence.
But anyway thats a really nice job you did.
morphling1
10-12-2002, 01:27 PM
Thanks,
Silversink, if the block would be full copper, it wouldn't make almost any difference, cooling takes place on the base plate and as heat output can't be compared to cpu's they are easy to cool, plus surface area is very big because of the size of the block and because copper is a good heat conductor that area is effective.
If you by any chance remember my Hercules 8500 le water cooling block which was similar to this, I had 2V on gpu (def 1.5) and I overclock that card to 345/345 which I believe is very close to the top as far as 8500 oc. goes and the card was completly cool.
edit: PM or better email me for any more detail
~The Spyder~
10-13-2002, 09:27 PM
WOW... thats pretty nice~ ******~ but i can see y~
*edited
Keep your price thoughts to PM's please
Smizack
TheHunter
10-19-2002, 08:03 AM
Wow, great looking block morphling1, awesome job! :toast:
nelamvr6
10-19-2002, 05:52 PM
A work of art!
Pretty dam brave doing all that work without having a card to test fit!
morphling1
10-22-2002, 09:35 AM
I finaly got GF4 4200 card yesterday, so I'll be doing voltmod tomorrow and put on some water cooling :D
And btw today I've been doing this:
I just finished new 8500 water block that is easier to install and uses one side water cooling other side passive heat spreader
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Herc8500/New%20block/8500%20new%2003.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Herc8500/New%20block/8500%20new%2005.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Herc8500/New%20block/8500%20new%2006.jpg
I'll test it tomorrow when I get ati 8500 card from a guy that this is for.
NyCUndaGrounD
10-22-2002, 04:02 PM
honestly i think your deisgn is not bad but if there is more copper for the water to cool, the more heat will be transferred. Thats what i learned in chemistry class.
NorthernYankee
10-22-2002, 05:14 PM
But since a GPU does not put out nearly as much heat as a CPU you get to a point where adding more copper has no effect...IMHO he has enough copper to do what he needs.
--NY
NyCUndaGrounD
10-22-2002, 08:16 PM
oh ok sorry for my comments
aarion
10-31-2002, 01:12 AM
so how much u selling those babies? How about cooling for the ram behind the card?
morphling1
10-31-2002, 11:29 AM
I install my new water block to my Leadtek 4200.
Btw , I had to make new block for 4200 because of the condensator between the top ddr chips, that's why I need to change positions of the fitting because the previous one wasn't good any more.
So here is the card in all the greatness.
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/steps/Picture%20056.jpg
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/steps/Picture%20055.jpg
And here my somehow gheto looking system but top performing and now almost silent. Hmm psu waterblock next :D
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/steps/Picture%20060.jpg
BermudaTriad
10-31-2002, 05:28 PM
nice setup :thumbsup:
i hope those fittings are on tight, every time you break the tube (for elbow fittings, t-fittings, even the barbs on the block) you've got a potential leak point :doh:
aarion
11-01-2002, 01:42 AM
i just burn my ti4200 while trying to solder the damn wire to the card. I don't know what happen. The card now is gone to the drain.
BermudaTriad
11-01-2002, 02:04 AM
ouch, it doesn't work anymore? any way you can RMA it?
morphling1
11-01-2002, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by BermudaTriad
nice setup :thumbsup:
i hope those fittings are on tight, every time you break the tube (for elbow fittings, t-fittings, even the barbs on the block) you've got a potential leak point :doh:
Not to worry about those fitting, The one on the blocks are for pneumatics and therfor can handle much greater preasure, and for those albows and T's also no problem silicon hose don't age, like pvc hose so it stays elastic, and because it goes realy hard on those fitting I don't worry about the leaks, I took this case to lans move it a lot basicaly (not very gentle btw.) and no problem.
And I don't have the need to break those hoses very often, just when I put in, or change a block.
aarion that sad to hear, what happened? I just can't see what could go wrong, only if your pot's weren't at the right value so you overvolted everything.
aarion
11-01-2002, 02:42 AM
i also don't know y. I manage to solder the wire to the chip when i put it back and on the pc. The whole screen screwed up. See nothing but artifacts. I think i burn one of the chips. Hopefully can RMA it. Gonna send to the shop tomolo to RMA it.
Have to wait for 1 month or two. It sucks man. But in a way it is also a good thing, coz i have exams in like 10 days time. It will stop me from playing with NFS hot pursuit 2 for awhile. hehe.
morphling1
11-01-2002, 02:49 AM
This was definetly overvoltage on ddr, I know because I once went to far on my 8500 (more than 4V on the same hynix 4ns) and just corrupted the chips artifact stayed forever, thankfuly I cover all the tracks of soldering and got new card.
Do you remember resistance on pots, I set them on 2.3kohm for gpu and 1.3kohm for gpu and booted at 1.75 & 3.4V from deafult 1.65 & 3.25V .
btw now I'm at 1.85 & 3.7V perfectly cool
aarion
11-01-2002, 03:37 AM
the thing is i haven't even connect the rasister yet. just solder.
morphling1
11-01-2002, 03:42 AM
Hmm, you soldered wire to voltage regulators, was the wire by any chance bare at othe and, if the bare end would touch any part of the case (grounded metal) while card is powered, that mean you just shorted everything and god know how many volts ddr got.
Why would you even power the card without resistors solderd...
aarion
11-01-2002, 07:50 AM
i was very sured that the vr is set to the lowest. i have had a very good look at the chip, and it looks like i had burn one of the leg. I don't know how to explain but it looks different from the other. That's the mem chip. Really hope i can RMA it.
Yes, interesting design. I did something similar with the floor of a water block I'm using. For turbulence.
It's made from similar materials as well.
sweeet! All these cool mods are making me want to do stuff I can't afford. :(
mashie
11-24-2002, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by morphling1
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Gf4%20design/steps/Picture%20060.jpg
Nice to see more people that use copper bends together with silicone tubing :)
Your blocks look amazing, any plans for a 9700 version?
antipop
11-29-2002, 08:53 AM
Have you ic'ed your card? What is the gain over stock cooling?
What kind of temp do you have?
morphling1
11-29-2002, 02:29 PM
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4977838
This with chilled water.
Normal water 355/675 voltmoded.
Stock 310/615
I didn't even try it without the voltmods :D