WaterCooling Case

[John Cena]

I would like to know what Watercooling case do you use? I use a ThermalTaker Xaser III Full Tower and it is crowded and I have to put my Watercooling equipment outside the case.

I have 2 cdroms, 2 hardrives(raid), 1 acrylic resvoir, all 5 pci card slots are used, 1 floppy, Einheim 1048 water pump, JR-120 120mm Chrome rad, asus p4p800 deluxe motherboard.
I would like a acrylic window and a case that can take the power supply from my thermaltake xaser III(I think i have a antec true power 450w). I want a case that can fit all these :D

Can anyone please find me a case? I heard that the Chieftec is a replica of the Thermaltake Xaser III series?

[charlie]

Wow John, nice post... I'm impressed :D
Try out that new Lian Li that has the stainless steel refirgerator "look"..........and if that's too pricey....check out he chieftec/antec/chenbro/chenming series of clones, they're big and roomy for all your stuff

C

[John Cena]

Is it true that the ThermalTake Xaser 3 full tower series is just a regular Chieftec full tower with the bells and whistles?

I personally dislike Lian Li cases for some reason.

Aopen H700B came close to my needs but doesn't have acrylic window, so it gets ruled out

Also if there is hd bays in place where the JR raditor should be, it should be easy to remove and still have enough space for atleast 4 hds. Can you find me this dream case?

[charlie]

does this do anything for 'ya??
great WC case...
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-125-715&depa=0

[charlie]

lotsa space too

[John Cena]

I was hoping for a acrylic window and will my current pSU(think its a true power 450w by antec) fit in it? I really wish for a acrylic window

[ocmyface]

my friend ahs that case and it is NOT big enough for WC to fit in it, plus (im not even exaggerating) it weighs like 40 pounds!!!

[Jupiler]

The Antec P160 looks nice.
Full alu, and seems spacious enough for a WC setup.
Price is OK too, 110$

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-144&depa=1

[John Cena]

Jupiler, I have no idea how to remove the drive bays on that case to fit my radiator.
Charlie, Juplier, ocmyface I'm guessing you all watercool. What case Are you using?

[Jupiler]

I'm using the Lian Li PC75.
Love the case, lots of space because it's very deep, almost 60 cm (don't know how many inches that is).
Case is pricey though.

[John Cena]

How much is it?

[sandman]

Like $220?

I use this case: http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=520fc9ee41ca49ce6e526838c5 a1a3b3&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CF1006&Category_Code=S-Cases

Works well, you can put a BIX right on the back 120mm fan. No modding required. Course I put in another rad and painted the inside, but it's the easiest setup ever.

[h0ok3r]

yeah 200-250 (euro's)(in holland), i've got it and its got a lot of room for a WC setup(its friggin' huge), and its beautiful 2 :cool:

[charlie]

here's a GREAT freking case....one of the best!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3669&item=3480850791&rd=1
enough space for ya'??

[charlie]

here

[sandman]

I agree charlie, but it's expensive, and requires some modding.

No offense to you john, But are you sure you trust yourself with power tools?

[ocmyface]

i have the chenming full tower case, it costs 60 bucks and is aluminum - good case for the price

i havent installed my WC yet, but I know it would fit easy

[John Cena]

What cases do you guys use besides the lian li? Any chieftecs??

I can mod but I don't have the tools, only armed with a screw driver and a drill.

[charlie]

Here is MY new DREAM-CASE ($250)

[ocmyface]

chenming- light, good build, great price, you can buy em at www.excaliberpc.com

[John Cena]

Can you point me to the exact case?
I'm so confused with which one to buy.

[ocmyface]

hmmm. i cant find it either, they mustve stopepd sellign it there

[KennethChong]

Originally posted by charlie
Here is MY new DREAM-CASE ($250)

wow, i really like that one...

[Craig]

Charlie,

Very nice case man! Is this just a up coming case that's not yet released or could you post a link to a site selling these?

I could forsee what that beauty would look like in the dark, with it lit up inside.......OH yeah.

Best of all the dropped the external 3.5" bays. If you still want a floppy it goes in a main bay. Which means you can make real use of that bay. 7 external main bays.........wow.

[Craig]

John,

If you buy a hole saw set, skill saw & dremel you'll be well on your way. And all the above will cost no more than a good motherboard. Then you can custom make any window you desire.

I've a Lain Li case also, the PC76 server case........huge......but d****d expensive. Think of a case about on par with the PC70 or PC75 but 2" wider than they are.......but also more $ as well.

While also very expensive the mountain mods cases are the finest I know of .......for about anything. And you can get them set up about anyway you wish.:D

www.mountainmods.com

[DoGMaN]

There is nothing like a big ole cube case. I'm using the Chenbro SR10303. Massive.

http://www.thecrucible.ca/images/cube3.jpg

[John Cena]

No offense, that looks really ugly. It's just a bix ol box.
I had some of my friends over and they were very impressed when they saw my ThermalTake Tower and it's sleek design.

[HawainPanda]

the lian li pc-7X are all reallyy good case to have water cooling, another would be the coolermaster wavemaster

[kommando]

Originally posted by DoGMaN
There is nothing like a big ole cube case. I'm using the Chenbro SR10303. Massive.

http://www.thecrucible.ca/images/cube3.jpg

Looks nice, just needs some modding :)

[DoGMaN]

Originally posted by kommando
Looks nice, just needs some modding :)

It is being worked on now ;)

[Reflex1]

Man ...why u guys all like these HUGEEEE ass cases ...

i used to have a chieftec Steel full tower ...and it was the biggest mistake i ever made.

go with a normal midi-tower Lian li ...i got one now ...fits my watercooling (everything inside case ...inc. rad.) 1 cd-rom, 3 HDDs!!! 3 pci used, floppy etc etc.

[xgman]

Originally posted by charlie
Here is MY new DREAM-CASE ($250)

Hi Charlie. I just got one of these V2000's (aluminum) from Hampton. The PS is on the bottom and the MB mounts on the reverse side as normal. I'm going to have a window cut in tomorrow. Hope they don't mess it up. ;)

I think I'll still keep my water in my external case though:

[Craig]

Originally posted by a5h
Man ...why u guys all like these HUGEEEE ass cases ...



Your mid size Lain Li is also a good choice, no qestion, depending on the amount of stuff you want in it.

But a full tower or server Lain Li case can hold a huge volume of gear.......and still have very free air flow. Same is true for a Mountain Mods cube, or any full size cube for that matter.

Dual loops desired? Extra PSU for TEC's? You want 5 blocks in that dual loop? 4 HHD? You say you'd like to line it with sound deadening foam? NO PROBLEM with a cube or PC70, PC75, PC76 or PC78 case, they can all take any, or all, of those space eaters in stride.

That's what leads to big cases.;)

[nikhsub1]

BIGGER

CASES

ARE

BETTER

http://www.netbetty.com/H20/cube/casters.jpg

http://www.netbetty.com/H20/cube/outside/mobo.jpg

http://www.netbetty.com/H20/cube/outside/pump.jpg

http://www.netbetty.com/H20/cube/outside/topopen.jpg

http://www.netbetty.com/H20/cube/outside/back.jpg

http://www.netbetty.com/H20/h20sidedone.jpg

That is: 4 HD's (can take 9), 5 5.25", 13 fans (not including PSU or NB), 2 D-Tek Pro Rads, 4 shrouds, 1 Iwaki MD-15R, 5 feet of tubing, 2 12" cold cathodes and I am running out of room :D

[John Cena]

woah niksub..nicee

I checked out the stats on the Lian-LI PC75 I think, and its dimensions were smaller than my current case.. I my current case cannot fit it, will that lian-li pc75 do?

[DoGMaN]

@nikhsub1 - is that case custom?

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by DoGMaN
@nikhsub1 - is that case custom?
Nope... www.mountainmods.com

[John Cena]

Anyone know where I can get PC70, PC75, PC76 or PC78 or ANYTHING that is like that size for maybe under $120?

[p0rl1n]

Craig,

Charlie's dream case is a Lian Li PC-V1000. Anand did a review of it a few weeks ago http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=2040 . The psu and hds have their own partition seperated by a panel on the bottom while the mb and cds are up top.
and fwiw, i fit my wc setup inside a lian li pc60, but it is a tight fit.

[Jupiler]

Originally posted by John Cena
Anyone know where I can get PC70, PC75, PC76 or PC78 or ANYTHING that is like that size for maybe under $120?

You won't find those cases under 120$, and certainly not the PC76 or 78 (+400$).

[John Cena]

Stupid Lian-LI
Please find me a subsititute that will have all of the space of Lian Li for around 120 please. Monday is dead line for ordering and I HAVE TO ORDER

[charlie]

http://www.dumpinggoods.com/dumpinggoods/itemdesc.asp?CartId=13595815FESFS-ACCWARE-17&ic=CS%2DGEN%2D0192&cc=&tpc=

[stumpy]

I'm getting ready to attempt to fit my WC system into my Antec Sonata. Am I crazy? I figure rad will be outside of case but everything else i hope to fit. Only one dvdrom and one hdd though, so that gives me quite a bit of room. We'll see .

[Epsilon]

Originally posted by ocmyface
my friend ahs that case and it is NOT big enough for WC to fit in it, plus (im not even exaggerating) it weighs like 40 pounds!!!

lool
i'm buidling a rig now that messures about 20x25x35 which has full watercooling and a complete system in it

[John Cena]

epsilon what case will you be using?

[Unoid]

my Lian Li midtower fits a single 120mm rad in the top. you can do a longer one also:

its all cramped inside but works great:
http://unoid.net/watermod/

[Epsilon]

Originally posted by John Cena
epsilon what case will you be using?

Lian-Li PC402b :)

[John Cena]

will that case fit alot of wc equipment epsilon?

[John Cena]

I'm so pissed of right now. Went to CompUSA and spent 3 hours looking for case. Finally bought the Antec Plus View full tower because it looks like it had enuff space. Take it home only to find out the ******* harddrive bays are revited. WHY DO CASE MANUFACTURERS REVIT THERE HARDRIVES??????

I'm done with this. I'm ready to buy top of the line Lian-Li

[John Cena]

Okay I'm going to get one of these

Lian-Li PC-70 Aluminum Full Tower Case(No Power
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=578_585&products_id=2142

Lian-Li PC-71 Black Aluminum Full Tower Case (No Power)
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=578_585&products_id=2396

Lian-Li PC-75 Aluminum Full Tower Case(No Power Supply)
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=578_585&products_id=3165

1) Which one is better?
2) Please tell me NONE of them have riveted screws and requires no modding to get the wc equip to fit
3)Whats diff between PC-70 and PO-71?
4) Will any of these be a tight fit or have big space?
5) Will All of these take my Powersupply which is a ThermalTake PurePower 420w?(It has one fan on the bottom and one fan on the side where the power plug goes)

thx

[slavik]

AMEN!!!

mine going to be WC soon, too :)


Originally posted by Jupiler
I'm using the Lian Li PC75.
Love the case, lots of space because it's very deep, almost 60 cm (don't know how many inches that is).
Case is pricey though.

[Epsilon]

Originally posted by John Cena
will that case fit alot of wc equipment epsilon?

enough :)

-GPU waterblokc (home made, because of the limited high of the block) pics : http://members.home.nl/epsilon/temp/

-Maze 4
-Dual HD watercooling (small case, disks can get hot in there)
-Hydor L20
-Home made reservoir (28mm copper tube)
-Tygon 16x10 mm tube

[John Cena]

But the Main questions are
Whats the difference between each of the cases, PC-70, PC-71, PC-75
And do they have anything riveted and will it take the ThermalTake PurePower 420?

[pauldenton]

Originally posted by John Cena
But the Main questions are
Whats the difference between each of the cases, PC-70, PC-71, PC-75


PC-70 = silver, no window
PC-71 = Black, no window
PC-75 = silver, window

otherwise they are identical in every way....

[John Cena]

Oh ok. I thought the 71B had a window case.

Well I guess the only choice I have left is to buy the PC-75B
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=578_585&products_id=3289

Because I need Window and Black case. LOL gotta hide from parents for awhile.

[Jupiler]

That's indeed the same one as I have John.
And the price is great.
I'm sure you're gonna love the case.

I'll try to take some pics from my case tomorrow, so you'll have an idea how you can install your WC setup.

[John Cena]

I'm going to order it tomorow at 11am EST after exams hehe

My pump is the Einhem 1048. How do I get the pump's power cord to run from outside to inside? I have no dremel only armed with a drill and screw driver.

I hope this thing fits everything :)

[Craig]

The PC75B is a very fine case John, you'll like it. LL are expensive, but they are also the best full tower cases you can buy.

[Craig]

www.criticool.com

check out the power plant II John, that should solve the power cord issue & allow for the pumps auto start up with the system.

[John Cena]

I'm kind of scared to chip and splice the Power cord. Is there any other solution?

Btw, Inside the power cord, there is a red wire(positive, a black wire(negative), a green wire(ground) right?

[slavik]

They are all the same case!!!

PC70 ... the base case!

PC71 ... PC70 but black

PC75 ... PC70 but with the factory window riveted in

the PC75 will usually run 30USD more than the PC70.

I also noticed that my PC75 has holes on the bottom of the PSU cage ... no cutting needed :)


Originally posted by John Cena
Okay I'm going to get one of these

Lian-Li PC-70 Aluminum Full Tower Case(No Power
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=578_585&products_id=2142

Lian-Li PC-71 Black Aluminum Full Tower Case (No Power)
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=578_585&products_id=2396

Lian-Li PC-75 Aluminum Full Tower Case(No Power Supply)
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=578_585&products_id=3165

1) Which one is better?
2) Please tell me NONE of them have riveted screws and requires no modding to get the wc equip to fit
3)Whats diff between PC-70 and PO-71?
4) Will any of these be a tight fit or have big space?
5) Will All of these take my Powersupply which is a ThermalTake PurePower 420w?(It has one fan on the bottom and one fan on the side where the power plug goes)

thx

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by John Cena
I'm kind of scared to chip and splice the Power cord. Is there any other solution?

Btw, Inside the power cord, there is a red wire(positive, a black wire(negative), a green wire(ground) right?
Yes. If you don't want to hack your pump cord, get an extention cord, plug it into your pump cord and hack the extention :D

[John Cena]

Good Idea. But Your 100% Sure that theres no other wires inside the extension or the pump power cord beside red,black and green?

Also If I connect it all to a relay, Can I cover it all with a Glue Gun Glue?

[charlie]

John,
Depending on the pump, there will be 2 or 3 inner wires. White and Black for sure, white is HOT and Black is neutral....green if you have it is ground.

the criticool.com powerplant rox!!!!!!!!!!

C

[John Cena]

Okay so the critical powerplant has connections for red,black,green?
where does the white and black go?

[John Cena]

Case is ordered on Second day Fedex. Hopefully I'll get it on Wensday. Now I'm off to take my graduation exams hehehhe

[slavik]

about to take some finals, too

gl to you :) (and me :-\)

[John Cena]

Actually I just called the school and the lady said that the only exams today are 6th and 7th lol. Tommorow will be definetly tuff with 4th period Hell. I will not study and merely base my theory on luck because i have never failed. gl hehe

[slavik]

dude, same here ...

but I'm in college :-/ (CUNY though, some say that city colleges are harder than private ...)

[John Cena]

heheheh yes the circulam is getting too hard. I wish the 1970's circulam came back. Now thats good. lol

Time to order the pump relay kit

whats the diff betwen
CritiCool PowerPlant II
and the

CritiCool Solutions Powerplant II - PCI Relay card

Woaps can't order because http://www.criticool.com/cgi-bin/mcart/mofus.cgi
uses wrong certificates or someone is trying to intercept their communication

[slavik]

be lucky you're not in NYS ... we have state wide exams (for upto college :)), with the chemistry one being made all written (no multiple-guess like I had)

BTW, I think those are the same thing ... and don't be afraid to splice the wire ... it isn't dangerous (unless plugged in)

[John Cena]

Chemistry has to be the easiest subject in the world. I was in honors chemistry and it was easy. Now Honours Physics is hard.

My new plan is to splice the wires of the pump and an extension cord and run it through one of the pci slots.
Connect them both and put serveral rounds of electric tape around it, then teflon tape, then glue gun. That way I will maksure Gilbert doesnt get elecuted

[charlie]

John, John, John.............
Here's the criticool
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3670&item=3482778004&rd=1
Don't trash your nice rig with the extension cord mess sh*t....
These things are AWESOME!
Here's MY Criticool PowerPlant, that I got from them off eBay. He ships fast, too. Look at how nice the back is:

[DoGMaN]

Wow Charlie that is sexy guess I am going to have to order one.

[slavik]

can be set to power the pump at all times?

also, isn't there a switch in the back or somethin'?

[John Cena]

I'm confused.
Should I order from Ebay or directly from Criticalpower?
I don't trust ebay and criticalpower uses wrong security certificates

[Jupiler]

Buy it from Ebay. They have 100% positive feedback, and you'll be sure to receive their correct bank account, so you can transfer the money.

[DoGMaN]

I just bought some stuff from criticool.com last week. It came just fine. They are legit. I'm not sure what certificates you are talking about, but it worked just fine when I ordered.

[John Cena]

The Certificate Mozilla shows is assigned to another site. It could be hacked and intercepted so all your credit card info goes to the other side. Heres a pic of what I get

[John Cena]

Heres what I get. Does anyone that use Mozilla get this?

Just goto their site and try to add the power plant into your cart using mozilla

[slavik]

looks like the certificate is issued to their host ...

[John Cena]

Is that safe? Do you get the message too?

[slavik]

I got a message that the cerficate was issued to a diff site ...

didn't read it in detail though ... I'd suggest send them a screenshot and asking them ... if u still don't trust them, there are other places that sell it (cooltechnica, frozencpu, etc.)

[John Cena]

.....lol I did not know cooltechnica sold them. Time to buy it

[John Cena]

Updates:
Place order on exaclibur at around 10:45am on 2nd day air. Order still hasn't shipped?

Placed Order on cooltechnica for critical powerplant on 2nd day air. Hopefully they will both come by tuesday

[slavik]

why do you need 2 of them???

[John Cena]

no case from exaclibur
and relay from cooltehnica

[charlie]

:thumbsup:

[fareastgq]

Hi guys, not really new here, just never resgistered till a bit ago, heh, been reading for the past year and a half or so. Here's my rig, not the best work, but I still like it. Built it "for my gf", heh. btw charlie's case is the pc-v2000, not 1000 ;)

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/neeb_vwj/detail?.dir=/Neng%27s+comp+pix&.dnm=DSC07501.jpg
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/neeb_vwj/detail?.dir=/Neng%27s+comp+pix&.dnm=DSC08509.jpg
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/neeb_vwj/detail?.dir=/Neng%27s+comp+pix&.dnm=DSC08517.jpg
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/neeb_vwj/detail?.dir=/Neng%27s+comp+pix&.dnm=DSC08514.jpg
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/neeb_vwj/detail?.dir=/Neng%27s+comp+pix&.dnm=DSC07495.jpg

when 939 matures, I'll be building a new wc'ing rig :)

[John Cena]

Hey fareastqq.
Is that the Lian-Li PC75B?

Where do you keep your radiator? And did you mod the top to get those 2 fans there?
Looks nice.

[xgman]

Here's my new Lian Li V2000 case, slightly modded.
I'm also gonna replace the 2nd (black) cdrom cover with an aluminum flip open bezel like the top one. Water stuff is still in it's own custom window case next to it.

[xgman]

and the front:

[charlie]

omfg.............

that is AMAZING!!!!!!
I'M lovin' IT

c

[Weapon]

I finally tracked down a case that I can fit all of my watercooling stuff into:

http://www.cox-internet.com/weapon/images/reszda1.jpg
It is a VPS/IS telecommunications/voice data cabinet with all the com gear removed. To get the size of it into perspective, that is a 4 bay midtower in the lower left of the pic. the big silver box on top of the cabinet is the rack enclosure for the power supply (Lambda Industrial WattBox 1500w). It is full 19" rail width but double depth....now that i think about it, I can fit all of my phase change stuff and all of my watercooling stuff into it. :D

moving right along -

the Lian Li PC70 is great for H2O cooling because of the depth of the case - even if you hate the way they look, you will love the amount of room from the front to the back of the case.

[extremecorvette]

John your going to need a big case

I used a Radmax 668 case and this is what it looked like done with out the block in place and tubing
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~nknause/Inside%20done.jpg

[John Cena]

wow even thats small lol

Okay I finally fitted everything in and close and sealed up the case

Now I ran 2 Clients of Folding, DVD player, virus scan, 3 mozilla browsers, aim and etc for half an hour

My cpu load temp is 35 Celcius
and my Case/Northbridge Temperature is 41 Celcius.

Are these good temperatures? It won't melt the tubing right lol?

Ill take pics of it as soon as my webcam decides to work

[extremecorvette]

It's small, powerfull, and doesn't make a sound. I love that pump.

[Jupiler]

Originally posted by John Cena

My cpu load temp is 35 Celcius
and my Case/Northbridge Temperature is 41 Celcius.

Are these good temperatures? It won't melt the tubing right lol?



System specs?
No, the tubing won't melt, no need to worry.

[John Cena]

Pentium 4 3.0ghz 800fsb C series.

It says on the tubing 145f or 165 f is max temp

[extremecorvette]

LOL

[fareastgq]

Originally posted by John Cena
Hey fareastqq.
Is that the Lian-Li PC75B?

Where do you keep your radiator? And did you mod the top to get those 2 fans there?
Looks nice.

4th pic link down is a pic of the rad. It's just a bixII zip tied to a shroud, the bolts you see on top of the case are the bolts that hold the shroud in place, Yeah, it's a pc-75B, I measured the area of the shroud and just cut fan holes on top. Using warm system air to cool my rig but it's ok, temps are still great and everything is in the case.