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-realEvolution-
05-17-2004, 09:12 AM
This OCZ Memory rules :eek: :p:

EmineM
05-17-2004, 09:15 AM
asbolutely fantastic!!! try to tighten those timings abit 300 1:1 3-2-2-5 would be so cool

-realEvolution-
05-17-2004, 09:15 AM
Sandra with 312 MHZ

Rancidelephant
05-17-2004, 09:16 AM
volts ?

AcEmAsTr
05-17-2004, 09:17 AM
amazing fsb, but 3-3-2-8, get those lower and youve got killer ram!

saaya
05-17-2004, 09:49 AM
omg! :eek:

scrible88
05-17-2004, 10:02 AM
volts? Sounds like at least 3.6-3.8

Tighten the timings!

What will those run @ 2-2-2-11? 220mhz?

cold_ice
05-17-2004, 10:14 AM
Incredible oc Evolution :thumbsup:
It would be interesting what this RAM can handle with tighter timings

ryanpgroovy
05-17-2004, 10:31 AM
Those seem like pretty damned tight timings at 626 Mhz guys

LOL

What voltage are you running

-realEvolution-
05-17-2004, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
Those seem like pretty damned tight timings at 626 Mhz guys

LOL

What voltage are you running


Ryan, i love you for this Memory :slobber:

This memory runs this with 3,5 and 3,6 Volts

The memory does 3-2-2-5 til 295 MHZ, on Cas 2 the memory dont let me boot, but the memory runs Great with CAS 3 :banana:

AcEmAsTr
05-17-2004, 10:56 AM
295mhz or FSB?

Soulburner
05-17-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
295mhz or FSB?
Both...

3.5-3.6v is a very good achievement considering the last BH-5 I saw at 300+ took 4v.

ryanpgroovy
05-17-2004, 11:42 AM
It makes me happy :-D

sandman
05-17-2004, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
Both...

3.5-3.6v is a very good achievement considering the last BH-5 I saw at 300+ took 4v.

Last stuff I saw was at 301mhz, with like 4.3V or so and had a tornado blowing on it.

Spec3
05-17-2004, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
It makes me happy :-D

Me too :toast:

Cornelious0_0
05-17-2004, 12:31 PM
Oh my dear lord, this is why i love this place.....any benchmarks other then Sandra?

You are good dude.....I love seeing :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: like this.

JWB
05-17-2004, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Spec3
Me too :toast:

LOL:toast:

p4z1f1st
05-17-2004, 12:50 PM
incredible, holy sh*t !! :slobber:

i'm going to buy them in the next time :D

on which MoBo ?

and what its max on DC ?

Spec3
05-17-2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by p4z1f1st
incredible, holy sh*t !! :slobber:

i'm going to buy them in the next time :D

on which MoBo ?

and what its max on DC ?

Well it's an A64 board so there is no DC right now. Also it shows as an nf3 chipset

Steve

Evil_Spork
05-17-2004, 01:11 PM
omg i cant wait to get my 3700 EB!

AcEmAsTr
05-17-2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
Both...

3.5-3.6v is a very good achievement considering the last BH-5 I saw at 300+ took 4v.


both???!

295MHZ = 147.5fsb

sparkie34
05-17-2004, 01:24 PM
or 295mhz= 590 DDR

Cornelious0_0
05-17-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by sparkie34
or 295mhz= 590 DDR

Yeah, I thought that was just assumed. ;)

p4z1f1st
05-17-2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Spec3
Well it's an A64 board so there is no DC right now. Also it shows as an nf3 chipset

Steve

oh right, sorry....i oversaw it, that it's "still" a S754 :D ;)

i'm just planning my coming S939-System the whole time :D

EDIT: wasn't a high VDimm killing the HT of the A64 ? (and so the cpu)

STEvil
05-17-2004, 03:04 PM
wonder how long the ram will last at that kind of volts ;)

stasiu
05-17-2004, 03:13 PM
It'd be pretty funny if this is the stuff that caused prices to drop like a rock on BH-5, when the word gets out. Better sell your sticks on ebay now....lol

mista_chewey
05-17-2004, 04:19 PM
holy crap i wish my vacation is over right now so i can grab me a pair of those!! :D
and what a long vacation this will be....

ZhaoYun
05-17-2004, 04:51 PM
Sweeeeeeeeeet. :slobber:

bigjohns97
05-17-2004, 04:55 PM
I hope this tech is for real, it's been a long time since some new memory came around and stunned everyone. Also I am tired of hearing about bh-5 when NOBODY SELLS IT !!

Facedeharicot
05-17-2004, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by sandman
Last stuff I saw was at 301mhz, with like 4.3V or so and had a tornado blowing on it.

url please? :)

i know cpull does 300 in 1:1 with his bh-5
but 301 i don't know who is it?

:toast:

Cornelious0_0
05-17-2004, 09:15 PM
Please excuse the over-inflated Canadian costs right now but is this (http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.cfm?loc=iview&if=n&vID=192065) the stuff you've got cranked right now Evolution???

I'm sittin' on some OCZ (in sig) right now but I'd be more then willing to take a step "down" to some 3700 if most ppl are seeing nice OC results out of it.

STEvil
05-17-2004, 09:28 PM
yup, thats its.

www.memoryexpress.com or www.ncix.com might have better prices.

Cornelious0_0
05-17-2004, 09:44 PM
Memory Express doesn't have the same stuff, and NCIX actually ends up being $8 more expensive because their charges for shipping/insurance are different then Vibes.

I've got a bud that might be able to hook me up in the states though, 'cus he could just buy 'em off Newegg and I'd pay for shipping and the ram for him. It'd end up costing me about $572 off Vibe after tax/shipping but "only" $510 or so off newegg, including shipping.....after the currency exchange.

I MIGHT be able to work a 1GB kit of this stuff into my budget before the middle of September when I've got a LAN I'm going too, but with the 3.2C, h2O, and new video card on the way too it's kinda tought to say. ;)

-realEvolution-
05-17-2004, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Cornelious0_0
Please excuse the over-inflated Canadian costs right now but is this (http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.cfm?loc=iview&if=n&vID=192065) the stuff you've got cranked right now Evolution???

I'm sittin' on some OCZ (in sig) right now but I'd be more then willing to take a step "down" to some 3700 if most ppl are seeing nice OC results out of it.

Yes its this Memory :)

XtremeSystems (http://www.xtremesystems.at/product_info.php/products_id/228) inspired by xs.org :p:

Soulburner
05-17-2004, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
both???!

295MHZ = 147.5fsb
I think we all know the basics of Double Data Rate memory here :rolleyes:

AcEmAsTr
05-18-2004, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by -realEvolution-
Ryan, i love you for this Memory :slobber:

This memory runs this with 3,5 and 3,6 Volts

The memory does 3-2-2-5 til 295 MHZ, on Cas 2 the memory dont let me boot, but the memory runs Great with CAS 3 :banana:


I think we all know the basics of Double Data Rate memory here


i swear youve got it in for me soulburner

cpulloverclock
05-18-2004, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Facedeharicot
url please? :)

i know cpull does 300 in 1:1 with his bh-5
but 301 i don't know who is it?

:toast: 303 1:1 with a 9 multiplier, 369 1:1 with a 4 multiplier

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
303 1:1 with a 9 multiplier, 369 1:1 with a 4 multiplier

Jimmeny Christmas that's blazin' :slobber:

Spec3
05-18-2004, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
303 1:1 with a 9 multiplier, 369 1:1 with a 4 multiplier

Using the 4x multi your ram was only at 295Mhz :toast:

4x multi is a glitch. 5 is the lowest that can be used so it's 369/5 *4=295FSB

Steve

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Spec3
Using the 4x multi your ram was only at 295Mhz :toast:

4x multi is a glitch. 5 is the lowest that can be used so it's 369/5 *4=295FSB

Steve

I was just talkin' about that crazy FSB there, unless I'm just reading it WAY wrong. :p:

cpulloverclock
05-18-2004, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Cornelious0_0
I was just talkin' about that crazy FSB there, unless I'm just reading it WAY wrong. :p: my best fsb
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/391.5.JPG
the best on an A64 system by Kon3
http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/images/MAXGOGO/KON564.jpg

on a FX system by kaz-n
http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/images/MAXGOGO/kaz-n5.5-412.9pai-39S.jpg

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 10:15 AM
Dude, just looking at those pics and reading your sig brings a whole new meaning to that handle of yours.....

GOOD GOD MAN!!!!! :slobber:

EDIT: I'm not sure if this is the best place (forum) for me to be.....you have NO IDEA how much I want to run out and grab some new "toys" after seeing this whole thread.

Crankster
05-18-2004, 10:15 AM
Evil, evil and sneaky that multi is! But oh so great is the score!

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Crankster
Evil, evil and sneaky that multi is! But oh so great is the score!

No :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:.....got any comparisons in Sandra or 3DMark2001 for that FX-51??? Seeing as you basically kept the cpu and ram and stock clock (assuming thats PC3200 you've got in there) I'd be interested to see how much your scores skyrocketed with that massive 413MHz FSB. :slobber:

Soulburner
05-18-2004, 11:17 AM
That FSB is only to show a high FSB, its not made to get high performance. There are better settings for that.

Notice the weak Super PI?

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Soulburner
That FSB is only to show a high FSB, its not made to get high performance. There are better settings for that.

Notice the weak Super PI?

Yeah, I know.....I'm not saying it'd be rank high performance.....I'm just curious is all. ;)

ryanpgroovy
05-18-2004, 03:08 PM
here are my 4 x multi Athlon 64 sandra scores while were at it

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 06:38 PM
VERY nice.....now THAT'S what I wanted to see. :D

:slobber:

Shade00
05-18-2004, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Cornelious0_0
VERY nice.....now THAT'S what I wanted to see. :D

:slobber:

Lol... too bad it's a bug. ;)

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Shade00
Lol... too bad it's a bug. ;)

What are you getting at?

ryanpgroovy
05-18-2004, 08:00 PM
yeah 4x does weird stuff ,

Geforce4ti4200
05-18-2004, 08:04 PM
"EDIT: wasn't a high VDimm killing the HT of the A64 ? (and so the cpu)"

yes and I can not afford to kill cpus. my friend eshbash killed his at 3.3v after a couple months. how high does that ocz pc3700 do at 3-2-2-6 at 2.9v? ras-cas delay MUST be at a 2 or I dont even want this ram, ill just go pc4000 and push her to 300+ fsb at 2.9v
as for 400fsb, if this is even possible, I will run 400x4=1.6GHz and have the fastest a64 around

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
yeah 4x does weird stuff ,

Well as true to life or buggy as it is.....numbers are numbers.....and I'm still aloud to drool. ;)

root
05-18-2004, 08:14 PM
Really crazy... i thought that HTT cant overclock much, but now :). OK going to buy OCZ and good MoBo

Cornelious0_0
05-18-2004, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by root
Really crazy... i thought that HTT cant overclock much, but now :). OK going to buy OCZ and good MoBo

Heh, that's exactly the kind of feeling I get everytime I read a thread on these forums.....and it's gonna do me in sooner or later. ;) Not that that's a bad thing or anything. :p:

Soulburner
05-18-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I will run 400x4=1.6GHz and have the fastest a64 around
No, you'd have the slowest A64 around.

Geforce4ti4200
05-18-2004, 11:27 PM
but 400fsb? how is it even possible to get 400fsb with 1:1 ram or is it a bug like someone said? anyway how does this ram do at 2.9v

Spec3
05-18-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
but 400fsb? how is it even possible to get 400fsb with 1:1 ram or is it a bug like someone said? anyway how does this ram do at 2.9v

It's a bug. The ram would be running 320Mhz (still amazing). But yea any multi with .5 or 4 give bogus results in 1:1

Steve

p4z1f1st
05-19-2004, 12:28 AM
@ -realEvolution- : are the RAM at 320MHz stable ? :D

and how high was the voltage ? 3,5V ?

-realEvolution-
05-19-2004, 02:05 AM
302 MHZ and 3,5 V was the memory prime stable :D

eva2000
05-19-2004, 02:25 AM
very nice indeed.. just be careful the vdimm doesn't kill your A64 cpu!

Violineb
05-19-2004, 05:13 AM
Sorry to ask foolish questions but what mobo is everyone using for these outrageous FSB/HT speeds?
The Aopen AK89 Max? I'm seriously going to be upgrading my system after selling everything I own, I just need to know what's the best CPU/mobo combo for these speeds. Aopen AK89 Max with a 3400+ mobile DTR? Or should I wait for 939? I have no idea what the difference is though. I've been out of this for a while :p

k thanks

-realEvolution-
05-19-2004, 05:35 AM
waiting for 939, i used on 754 always the Shuttle AN 50r :)

sierra_bound
05-19-2004, 09:03 AM
Anandtech just came out with its review of 3700EB. Link (http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2057)

ryanpgroovy
05-19-2004, 11:22 AM
New reviews are always good

:PopCorn
05-19-2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by sierra_bound
Anandtech just came out with its review of 3700EB. Link (http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2057)

Hi there.

Thanks for the link Sierra. =)

Shade00
05-19-2004, 01:12 PM
Uh oh, the secret's out. I recently came to the conclusion that they used Micron chips after a tested an older Buffalo stick with Micron... it ran up to 220/2.5-2-2-6/2.8v.

ryanpgroovy
05-19-2004, 01:16 PM
thats not really the secret

The secret is the spd + the good chips

STEvil
05-19-2004, 09:31 PM
What build process do the micron chips use, Shade00?

Geforce4ti4200
05-19-2004, 10:47 PM
just read the chart, thats good ram but it runs ras-cas delay of 3 which takes a big performance hit compared to cas-cas of 2 anyway. also its $500+ for 2x512mb sticks, I can get better performance with pc4200 for less by running like 300fsb. youd need 270fsb at ras-cas of 3 to match 300fsb with ras-cas of 4! If thats not true, prove it to me then. eshbash has proved that you need 30fsb to make up for one higher latency in timings. 2----->3 costs 30fsb 300fsb with pc4200 is probably as good as 240fsb with bh5. 5:4 of 300fsb is 240 too.

Soulburner
05-19-2004, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
just read the chart, thats good ram but it runs ras-cas delay of 3 which takes a big performance hit compared to cas-cas of 2 anyway. also its $500+ for 2x512mb sticks, I can get better performance with pc4200 for less by running like 300fsb. youd need 270fsb at ras-cas of 3 to match 300fsb with ras-cas of 4! If thats not true, prove it to me then. eshbash has proved that you need 30fsb to make up for one higher latency in timings. 2----->3 costs 30fsb 300fsb with pc4200 is probably as good as 240fsb with bh5. 5:4 of 300fsb is 240 too.
You may have not read the review thoroughly, or maybe you haven't been following this RAM...but it will run 3-2-2-6 at high speeds with less volts than Winbond memory.

And how many times do we have to go over the fact that 240 2-2-2-5 is faster than 300 3-4-4-8?

Rancidelephant
05-19-2004, 11:43 PM
37 i believe is the magic number here :)

anyway Big Daddy Gee its the two numbers in the middle that make the difference, try it yourself.

Run Super Pi @ cas 2 then @ cas 3 .... report back the changes.

STEvil
05-19-2004, 11:45 PM
I thought he caught on a couple weeks back, but it seems he forgot or something :/

Crankster
05-20-2004, 02:28 AM
Clarification, i was under the impression that voltage fluctuations where the factor destroying A64s, not high Vdimm. Anyone?

Spec3
05-20-2004, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by STEvil
I thought he caught on a couple weeks back, but it seems he forgot or something :/

Or he never caught on :D

p4z1f1st
05-20-2004, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Crankster
Clarification, i was under the impression that voltage fluctuations where the factor destroying A64s, not high Vdimm. Anyone?

extrem high vdimms (upper ~3,5V) are a reason for voltage fluctuations in the HT-Part of the A64

Shade00
05-20-2004, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
just read the chart, thats good ram but it runs ras-cas delay of 3 which takes a big performance hit compared to cas-cas of 2 anyway. also its $500+ for 2x512mb sticks, I can get better performance with pc4200 for less by running like 300fsb. youd need 270fsb at ras-cas of 3 to match 300fsb with ras-cas of 4! If thats not true, prove it to me then. eshbash has proved that you need 30fsb to make up for one higher latency in timings. 2----->3 costs 30fsb 300fsb with pc4200 is probably as good as 240fsb with bh5. 5:4 of 300fsb is 240 too.

Oops, you missed something. Trcd is not the only number going up. Trp matters just as match. So if you go up with those two numbers in the middle, you're going to need 360mhz with 3-4-4 timings to match 2-2-2 at 240 with BH-5. That's according to your calculations. So it looks like you're wayyyyyy off.

If I were you, I'd start doing some listening. This very fact has been discussed numerous times.

ryanpgroovy
05-20-2004, 03:14 PM
:toast: :banana:

LilGator
05-20-2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
also its $500+ for 2x512mb sticks

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-985&depa=0

what am I missing ?

ryanpgroovy
05-20-2004, 04:44 PM
I am not sure maybe he means canadian dollars

STEvil
05-20-2004, 05:35 PM
Probably, being that he's in canada ;)

Cornelious0_0
05-20-2004, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by STEvil
Probably, being that he's in canada ;)

That really DOES sound like what he's talking about, because a 2x512MB kit of any kind of decent PC3200+ BH5/EB memory IS gonna run you over $500 right now. Silly Canadian dollar..... :rolleyes:

Geforce4ti4200
05-20-2004, 09:29 PM
eshbash has tested it out. the other timings matter very little. going from ras-cas delay of 2 to 3 costs 25fsb in performance. all the other timings combined only cost 5fsb. thus 2-2-2-5 at 220fsb was equal to 2.5-3-3-6 at 250fsb. not bad. 3-4-4-8 would need like 280fsb to be equal.

macci
05-21-2004, 07:23 AM
Just started playing with these 512MB sticks of OCZ3700EB on my K8N Pro mobo :)
Useing the min. Vdimm my mobo allows (3.27V) I'm at 285MHz 1:1 3-2-2-8-8-16 so far superpi stable :toast:
Lets see how it will do once I start pushing it ;)

OPPAINTER
05-21-2004, 07:27 AM
Man, I'm going to have to try this EB stuff.

Macci, does the Cas 3 make much difference in your opinion?

OPP

macci
05-21-2004, 07:47 AM
As far as my testing goes CAS2 2.5 or 3 doesn't make any difference at all. I haven't done any clock to clock comparisons with these sticks yet but you'll see if its faster than BH5 in 3DMark ;)
(282x11 (CPU limit w/ 11x) 1:1 should give a nice improvement over my current score)

btw, superpi 1M passed at 291.5MHz 1:1 3-2-2-8-8-16 now - default heatspreaders no extra cooling..

OPPAINTER
05-21-2004, 08:12 AM
Great stuff Macci!

OPP

Endre
05-21-2004, 08:14 AM
Great results, I guess I will get some EB when I finally get A64, just sell away all the BH-5/6 before it drops in value to finance them. :)

Mini
05-21-2004, 08:17 AM
Macci: How fast did you do you 1M Super_pi???

Cornelious0_0
05-21-2004, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Mini
Macci: How fast did you do you 1M Super_pi???

Heh, yeah.....I'm also dying to know. You have to tell us know.....or you'd just be being a big meany. ;)

macci
05-21-2004, 08:23 AM
only testing the ram at the moment - low CPU speed. At 2063MHz (294.75 x 7 1:1) it gives 40sec =)

I'll start testing at higher CPU speeds once I find the optimal settings.

Mini
05-21-2004, 08:26 AM
Lol... Almost as fast as me... 38 seconds here...

I made 36 but that was at 243fsb cuz the low time ram dont wanna go higher at 3.15V... :(

Cant wait to see it go higher :D

Cornelious0_0
05-21-2004, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by macci
only testing the ram at the moment - low CPU speed. At 2063MHz (294.75 x 7 1:1) it gives 40sec =)

I'll start testing at higher CPU speeds once I find the optimal settings.

Excellent, keep up posted.

macci
05-21-2004, 09:26 AM
Looks like this is the limit at this point for SuperPi 1M (Vdimm 3.33V, default heatspreaders):

http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/ocz3700eb/ocz_3700_295_spi1m.gif

It will do lower timings too :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/ocz3700eb/293.7mhz_3_2_2_6_7_16.gif (http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/ocz3700eb/ocz_3700_294_spi1m.gif)

Lucus Maximus
05-21-2004, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by macci
Looks like this is the limit at this point for SuperPi 1M (Vdimm 3.33V, default heatspreaders)

Nice work there mate :) I can't wait to get me some of this 3700EB once I get my next upgrade in 2months time :)

-Lucus :)

Cornelious0_0
05-21-2004, 09:41 AM
Hmm, now I've gotta decide if I want the PC3500 or PC3700EB.....If I do end up getting the 3.2C that I want I'll only be running right around or above 250FSB.....so I'm thinkin' that the 3500 should do fine.

Rancidelephant
05-21-2004, 02:50 PM
firstly i think :eek: to macci !!!

can you test this in a dual channel p4 system to see how far it will go in that.

Mildly amasing tbh !

T07N
05-21-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
That FSB is only to show a high FSB, its not made to get high performance. There are better settings for that.

Notice the weak Super PI?

I thought SuperPI is all about CPU power?

hrhrhrfoot
05-21-2004, 03:13 PM
THE RAM GODS HATH SPOKEN!!!!

Cornelious0_0
05-21-2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by hrhrhrfoot
THE RAM GODS HATH SPOKEN!!!!

macci my son, you have been blessed with two gems from the RAM gods.....use them well. :toast:

macci
05-21-2004, 08:03 PM
can you test this in a dual channel p4 system to see how far it will go in that.
already did but my ic7 maxes at 257-260 (maxes at the same spot with 2x256MB BH5 too). Running 2-2 is just too much for the mem. controller on those boards (even more so with 2x512).
Obvioulsy on A64 boards the board/mem controller ain't limiting the OC that much.

Cornelious0_0
05-21-2004, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by macci
already did but my ic7 maxes at 257-260 (maxes at the same spot with 2x256MB BH5 too). Running 2-2 is just too much for the mem. controller on those boards (even more so with 2x512).
Obvioulsy on A64 boards the board/mem controller ain't limiting the OC that much.

Obvously.....and damn, stop giving me reasons to switch to an A64..... :idea:

T07N
05-21-2004, 08:27 PM
You have to wait until the Athlon 64 processors to mature. Give a year, or two. =)

Cornelious0_0
05-21-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by bluestar88
You have to wait until the Athlon 64 processors to mature. Give a year, or two. =)

It might help, but there's nothing that says I HAVE too. ;) I would NEVER wait that long anyways.....I'm gonna wait for both S939 and LGA775 to mature before I decide which way I'm gonna swing this time. ;)

Spec3
05-22-2004, 12:20 AM
Macci do you have a fan over the EB? The stuff OC's much better when you cool it

Steve

brwmogazos
05-22-2004, 01:10 AM
Could everyone whos got them post their memtest error free speeds please?

with 2.5 2 2 etc please (5/4 or 1/1) whats the max stable you can get with what voltage...

Peen
05-22-2004, 02:12 AM
This stuff is crazy!

one question

3200EB, 3500EB and 3700EB use same chips? or just binned faster?

Cornelious0_0
05-22-2004, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Peen
This stuff is crazy!

one question

3200EB, 3500EB and 3700EB use same chips? or just binned faster?

I've actually been wondering this myself. Anyone got some PC3200 EB that they've overclocked? I've seen reviews for the 3500 and 3700, and I was just wondering how the 3200 faired along side them.

Spec3
05-22-2004, 06:09 AM
Friend of mine had his 3200EB at like 240 or 245Mhz 3-2-2

Cornelious0_0
05-22-2004, 06:30 AM
Hmm, while those are impressive results in themselves (considering the performance of this stuff at CAS3) I think I'd still be more inclined to go with some PC3500 when/if the time comes.

Peen
05-22-2004, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Spec3
Friend of mine had his 3200EB at like 240 or 245Mhz 3-2-2

ya but volts? i got up to 3.3v

Spec3
05-22-2004, 06:39 AM
3.2 I think. And it was on P4

Endre
05-23-2004, 08:41 AM
Very good macci, wont they do more with higher voltage?

ryanpgroovy
05-23-2004, 11:23 AM
its incredibley high to begin with ,

:toast:

gouda96
05-23-2004, 11:53 AM
I think I am gonna snatch up some 3500 or 3700 eb along with a new nf3 250 aopen or shuttle mobo when they come out.

ryanpgroovy
05-24-2004, 03:06 PM
The Aopen NF3-150 is pretty impressive by itself

Lucus Maximus
05-26-2004, 05:52 AM
Any update on the EB Macci with running more Volt's through it?

-Lucus :)

yuri
05-26-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Cornelious0_0
It might help, but there's nothing that says I HAVE too. ;) I would NEVER wait that long anyways.....I'm gonna wait for both S939 and LGA775 to mature before I decide which way I'm gonna swing this time. ;)

Then you might as well wait for the s900 to mature also since it will replace the s939 early next year.
s900 (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16179)
or you could replace a s939 board with a pci express s939 in a few months :p:
people always talking about waiting it's silly imo,

who buy a new cpu for a old board ? i would say more people buy a new board for a older chip more often.

:stick:

bias_hjorth
05-27-2004, 06:34 AM
anyone know if these are made in 2x256mb version and if they clock better than 2x512mb?

Tony
05-27-2004, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by bias_hjorth
anyone know if these are made in 2x256mb version and if they clock better than 2x512mb?

2x256 do clock better than 2x512

p4z1f1st
05-27-2004, 07:24 AM
@ Yuri: that's wrong - the name "Socket900" is just for generalizing the S.9xx


---> Socket900 = Socket939 and Socket940

because: German Hardware-board (http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=163558&perpage=25&pagenumber=1)

use this (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr) when u aren't able to read german ;)

it's a little bit long, but there are a lot of brains of CPU-designing there ;)


and it would be a "back-step"....why AMD should delete again some pins after adding about 200 to the S754 ? ;)

they could simply left them without function ;)

Cornelious0_0
05-27-2004, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by yuri
Then you might as well wait for the s900 to mature also since it will replace the s939 early next year.
s900 (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16179)
or you could replace a s939 board with a pci express s939 in a few months :p:
people always talking about waiting it's silly imo,

who buy a new cpu for a old board ? i would say more people buy a new board for a older chip more often.

:stick:

Don't get me wrong here, I'm NOT one of those people that'll keep waiting, and you kinda blew what I said out of proportion. I'm already in the process of building my water cooled 3.2C (that I'm hopefully gonna push to 4GHz) and I'm gonna be picking up my next-gen video card in a couple months.

I agree that by the time I'm done with my system as I see it today there will be a few new toys out there that I'll want.....and I realise that. The understand that the market will always be like this, but If I'm already working on a system then I don't see what harm there is in saing I want to wait until some of the newer technology matures. At least to give myself a chance to USE my new setup once it's done. ;)

thecarguy
06-21-2004, 10:18 PM
Just purchased some EB3700. I got a couple of 512 sticks.

Gunna throw them in my DFI Infinity Ultra.

'Cause I'm still on nForce2 :p:

If you gents want, I can post results too.

-thecarguy

texuspete00
06-22-2004, 07:23 AM
That's what the thread is for. Pimp away!

WesM63
06-22-2004, 09:46 AM
LOL.. i have about 3-4 threads with my results in them... do i need post them here too? lol

2x256mb OCZ 3700EB, maxes out with 3-3-2-10-11-16 at 256mhz 5:4. (7x256mhz, 330HTT) 37sec super pi. Using Athlon 64 3200+ C0 Clawhammer and K8N-Pro.

245mhz with 3-2-2-11...

OH... 2.9V ;)

bias_hjorth
06-22-2004, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by bigtoe
2x256 do clock better than 2x512

g8 thx :)

gouda96
06-22-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by WesM63
LOL.. i have about 3-4 threads with my results in them... do i need post them here too? lol

2x256mb OCZ 3700EB, maxes out with 3-3-2-10-11-16 at 256mhz 5:4. (7x256mhz, 330HTT) 37sec super pi. Using Athlon 64 3200+ C0 Clawhammer and K8N-Pro.

245mhz with 3-2-2-11...

OH... 2.9V ;)

That is damn nice! I am going to have to snag some of this for my next rig.

saaya
06-22-2004, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by T07N
You have to wait until the Athlon 64 processors to mature. Give a year, or two. =)

:stick: so you think a new technology is matured when the successor of the technology is already out and the successor of the successor is about to be released???

amazing results! i hope i get a stick of that eb asap to review! cant wait :slobber:

Chris85
06-24-2004, 10:47 PM
Made a thread for this already, but I still don't know what it really is :confused: My PC3700EB won't run higher than 255Mhz 1:1 Not even at 3.3V. I tried all timings, from SPD to tight timings, but I can't get it to run at high speeds...

Can it be a setting or something? Or is it just that I got some bad memory :rolleyes: I have the Epox 8KDA3+ Vdimm modded.

STEvil
06-25-2004, 12:13 AM
could be all your board will do.

Chris85
06-25-2004, 12:25 AM
But even if I can run 275Mhz fsb 24/7 stable and 300Mhz for benching? Just have to use a divider then to get it to run, and that way it loses a lot of performance...

WesM63
06-25-2004, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by Chris85
But even if I can run 275Mhz fsb 24/7 stable and 300Mhz for benching? Just have to use a divider then to get it to run, and that way it loses a lot of performance...

No no you won't. Try it and find out. My optimal settings are with a divider at 256mhz. It crushes 1:1 at 235mhz.

Chris85
06-25-2004, 05:36 AM
Just read a thread about OCZ, that some memory is crappy, might be I have some of those sticks :rolleyes:

Soulburner
06-25-2004, 09:05 AM
I think its your board...

charlie
06-25-2004, 09:17 AM
....ditto, probably board.

C

enzoR
06-25-2004, 09:27 AM
yep... mobo

boshi
06-25-2004, 09:29 AM
so, say I wanted 300HTT. What S754 board do i buy?

gouda96
06-25-2004, 09:52 AM
A few people have been hitting 300+ fsb with that mobo. A guy in this forum hit 320. You may have just gotten a bad egg, and might have better luck with another board.

Does anyone know when is the Aopen 250 board coming out?

EDIT-> Coolzero2k1 and some other peole are havign some success with the 8K3a+ in THIS (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36041&perpage=25&pagenumber=3) thread.

andyOCZ
06-25-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Chris85
Made a thread for this already, but I still don't know what it really is :confused: My PC3700EB won't run higher than 255Mhz 1:1 Not even at 3.3V. I tried all timings, from SPD to tight timings, but I can't get it to run at high speeds...

Can it be a setting or something? Or is it just that I got some bad memory I have the Epox 8KDA3+ Vdimm modded.

What volts and timings are you running on the 3700 EB. I think we are having some unreal excpectations here. If the memory was good for 275fsb we would sell it as PC4400 EB. 233mhz at rated timings of 3-3-2-8 are a given, 275fsb is not.

WesM63
06-25-2004, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by boshi
so, say I wanted 300HTT. What S754 board do i buy?

An HTT speed shouldn't be hard to hit with any board. Now if your talking 300mhz Memeory thats a diffrent story.

Blaster
06-25-2004, 08:09 PM
my pair of 3700 EB dont even do 250 FSB on a p4c800 at 3,2 volts

they prolly only good for A64 :(

EDIT: update, well they just crashed after 10 minutes of prime95 blend test at 245, timings 3-2-2-5, 3,2volts.... and yes I have a fan over them

:( ill stop testing them cause i dont wanna get more depressed

andyOCZ
06-25-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Blaster
my pair of 3700 EB dont even do 250 FSB on a p4c800 at 3,2 volts

they prolly only good for A64 :(

That memory works pretty much the same on all systems. Did you read my post above?

I do 250fsb with my 3700 EB 2 x 512mb on a single channel A64 NF3-250 rig at 2.9v. The beauty is the tight tRP and tRCD timings I am running. The bandwidth is excellent. My BH5 does 220mhz with 2.9v

I have not played too much on the Intel myself. I'll throw my off the shelf (they literally pulled it from stock and shipped it to me) 3700 EB in my P4C800 tonight and let you know what I hit. I will only have 2.85v.

What timings are you running?

WesM63
06-25-2004, 08:19 PM
Try running them at 3-3-2-7. I'm sure your get at least 250Mhz out of them.

Blaster
06-25-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by andyOCZ

What timings are you running?

3-2-2-5

why am i so unlucky with memories :(

andyOCZ
06-25-2004, 09:08 PM
Yes I agree, run 3-2-2-7. Don't go over 3.1v and have a fan blowing directly on them. If they get too hot it causes errors. I'm not too sure about guys doing over 250fsb. That's hard to believe in dual channel.

andyOCZ
06-25-2004, 11:15 PM
Blaster, I tested the 3700 EB on the P4C800D

I hit about 240mhz or so at 3-2-2-7 and 250+ at 3-3-3-7, all at 2.85v.

Try 3-3-2-7 (3-2-3-7-8 the way it shows in bios) and 3-3-3-7 and see what you end up with. You have more volts than I do. Remember it's Intel and the latencies are less important.

Blaster
06-26-2004, 08:06 AM
http://clientes.netvisao.pt/hjosefer/3700EB-250FSB-3v.jpg


:toast:

this is at 3v, with this voltage it does 255 as well

I then tried 260 with no luck

Now its priming at 258 but ive increased the vdimm to 3,23v :D


EDIT: thnx Andy and WesM63

brwmogazos
06-26-2004, 09:22 AM
My 3700EB doesnt respond to higher voltage...

3.05 is the same as 3.35V...

2.5 2 2 5 max 242mhz...3 3 3 8 about 260mhz thats metest stable speeds 1:1

Asus P4C800E

I am getting another 2 sticks this week

3700EB again... :D

Blaster
06-26-2004, 11:47 AM
the pair i got respond to volts, it does 255 at 3,0 volts

if I increased the vdimm to the max with unmodded PSU (3,26v) the maximum increases to 260 stable for over 2 hours of prime (I stopped the test)

261 fsb its crashs after 5minutes so its maybe 3D stable, 262 prime crashes after 1 min


http://clientes.netvisao.pt/hjosefer/3700EB-260FSB-3,22v.jpg

some scores

http://clientes.netvisao.pt/hjosefer/3700EB-260-scores.jpg


UPDATE: changed the PSU from the unmodded Enermax noisetaker to a superflower with 3.3 line at 3,48 and im priming at 264 :D, at 265 it stops after 2-3 minutes

RLiu818
06-27-2004, 11:16 AM
Anyone know if the OCZ EB PC3700 can run stably at 2.5-2-2-10 at 200-210 range?

gouda96
06-27-2004, 11:32 AM
Shouldn't be a problem, but you would get higher clocks with 3-2-2 and would lose virtually 0 performance.

saaya
06-27-2004, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by RLiu818
Anyone know if the OCZ EB PC3700 can run stably at 2.5-2-2-10 at 200-210 range?

even the 3200eb should be able to do that without too much volts (2.8v)

bias_hjorth
06-27-2004, 12:22 PM
it should without any problem..

*edit didnt see the above posts :stick:

bleeder
06-28-2004, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
eshbash has tested it out. the other timings matter very little. going from ras-cas delay of 2 to 3 costs 25fsb in performance. all the other timings combined only cost 5fsb. thus 2-2-2-5 at 220fsb was equal to 2.5-3-3-6 at 250fsb. not bad. 3-4-4-8 would need like 280fsb to be equal.

With my Mushkin level one 1x512 at 2.6v, how can I compare the difference of running 218fsb at 2-3-2-11 and 200 at 2-2-2-11?

I tried the Sisoft memory bandwidth benchie, but I don't think thats a good way since its bandwidth, not the timings. The 218 did better there. Also did Super Pi for the heck of it, but 200 gained 2 seconds, since I'm at 9.5 multi atm so 1900mhz vs 2071mhz would be the winner over the timings there I guess.

Comparing fps's from a checkpoint in farcry? Any benchie I should do?

The fsb's in this thread are.........are.... :slobber:

EDIT: nvm, pretty close, but reboot after 5 mins of farcry at 2-2-2 :(
It could still see an improvement at 198 or something, but I cant change the vdimm on my SN45G, and anything under 200fsb on AUTO sets to 2.5v so its a no go. My hope lies in the ocz vdimm thing :)
:toast:

WesM63
06-28-2004, 05:12 AM
Not sure what your getting at, but super pi will be faster at 2-2-2 lower fsb, than 2-3-2-11 higher FSB. Just the way Super pi is.

Anyway, either your chip or board is causing your problems, My 3700EB did 220Mhz 2.5-2-2-11 in my NF7-S no problem.

stevenmh
06-30-2004, 05:46 PM
Just got my new system fired up, and was able to make it thru 2 passes of memtest at 250 FSB at 10-2-3-3, 2.8v. Installed the OS and tried P95, but it failed right away. CPU was at 2GHz and HTT at 4x, so it wasn't that. Set the mem/CPU to stock and now P95's been going about 30 minutes.

I'll have to play around with it some more, and plan on getting the DDR voltage booster when released, but so far I'm not getting the results I had hoped for. I was thinking 250 MINIMUM at x-2-3-3 and 2.8v.

STEvil
06-30-2004, 08:06 PM
218 2-3-2-5/ 218 may be a tad quicker than 2-2-2-5/6 200.. you gotta play around a test stuff.

geneh_00
06-30-2004, 11:10 PM
My PC3700 EBs 2x512 does 255 3-3-2-8 1:1 @ 2.8v on my stock 8KDA3+.

while my Mushy PC 3500 2x512 BH-5 does only 215 2-2-2 1:1 @ 2.8v

bleeder
07-01-2004, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by geneh_00
My PC3700 EBs 2x512 does 255 3-3-2-8 1:1 @ 2.8v on my stock 8KDA3+.

while my Mushy PC 3500 2x512 BH-5 does only 215 2-2-2 1:1 @ 2.8v

what?, but your comparing diff timings
your bh5 could use some more voltage ;)

stevenmh
07-01-2004, 01:42 PM
Did some more testing since last night. I was able to get P95 to run for 3 hours before crashing instead of 2 minutes at 250 by blowing a fan on the board (it's not in the case right now, it's on the workbench). I was planning on getting the OCZ DDR Voltage Booster when it becomes available, but now I'm wondering if heat seems to be a factor at 2.8v, isn't 3.0v just going to make it worse? Without the fan I can only touch the memory for a fraction of a second, it's that hot.

I set it down to 245, 10-3-2-3, 2.8v, and P95 has been running over 12 hours now. So my limit is somewhere between 246-249, and I'm not sure if it's hitting a ceiling for 2.8v, or if it's getting too hot and more voltage won't matter. I'm going to try 250 again but at 2.7v, and see what happens.

gouda96
07-01-2004, 02:46 PM
Are you running it with thea heatspreader attatched, or have you removed it?

bias_hjorth
07-01-2004, 03:32 PM
hmm just bougth 2 x 256mb sticks.. not to impressed I´ll say..

does 252mhz (7-2-2-3 at 3.08V) and 273mhz (8-3-2-3 at 3.6v+)
I´ll try some higher volt when running tight timings but only 273mhz at 3.6V with relatively loose timings does not impress me at all.. But hey I got all the weekend to play with this stuff so maybe i´ll improve..

oh its pc3700 btw..:)

Blaster
07-01-2004, 03:42 PM
im gonna stop all together of doing prime95

the other day i was running my 3700EB (2x256) at 266, 3-2-3-7 at 3,45 with prime95 for like 4 hours no errors then switched off everything

next day went to prime not changing a thing and after 2 minutes ... error ... I was like "WTF"

... so i went along playing americas army for like 2-3 hours with that settings without a single "critical error"

... and yeah i can run 3d benchs at over 270 so i guess ill just use prime for burnin :p

stevenmh
07-01-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by gouda96
Are you running it with thea heatspreader attatched, or have you removed it?

Heatspreaders are attached. Dropping voltage didn't help at all, so I stopped playing around with it for now while I get an idea of what my FX-53 limit will be on water. Once that's done I'll go back and figure out where in the 245-249 range my max is going to be. I guess 245 isn't really too bad, maybe the voltage booster will do some good. Won't hurt to try it I guess.

Iridium192_217
07-01-2004, 03:52 PM
thats simply sick

gouda96
07-01-2004, 03:59 PM
If they are hot remove the heatspreader. In my experience heatspreaders have insulated the chips more than reduced heat. Then you could cut individual ramsinks out of Cu or Al and that would probably keep them pretty damn cool.

skate2snow
07-02-2004, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by saaya
even the 3200eb should be able to do that without too much volts (2.8v) Did you know that OCZ PC3200/PC3500/PC3700 EB's are about all the same? It whould cost way more to OCZ to put all different chips and PCB in them. The difference is just marketing, and sometimes, some RAM's fail, and go down a grade. But if you take all those 3, you should have about the same overclock.

So you should not have problem to do a speed/timing w/ PC3200EB that PC3700EB....

bias_hjorth
07-02-2004, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by skate2snow
Did you know that OCZ PC3200/PC3500/PC3700 EB's are about all the same?

So you should not have problem to do a speed/timing w/ PC3200EB that PC3700EB....


they are not the same and they do not overclock the same.. Allthough the difference isnt that big its there.. :)

skate2snow
07-02-2004, 06:26 AM
What do you think, that they will make 3 different RAM's, and rate them differently? The only difference is the warranty, some are rated to do higher, and some to do lower, but at the end they are about the same....

bias_hjorth
07-02-2004, 08:53 AM
I know that for a fact.. perhaps same chips but the 3700 are the top of the line ones´ aimed for a certain timing and Mhz testet on a certain number of motherboards

skate2snow
07-02-2004, 09:10 AM
And its like saying that OCZ is only taking the top quality Micron 5ns chips..... How do you think they know which are bette before they buy from Micron?

And they wont test the chip like that. They will just test if its able to do the speed/timings they whant, and if it pass, they are PC3700EB, if not, they degrade to PC3500 EB, if it does not pass, they degrade to PC3200EB. And an OCZ rep said that its rare that the chips fail to PC3700 tests. The difference is that they are tested differently.....

bias_hjorth
07-02-2004, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by skate2snow
And its like saying that OCZ is only taking the top quality Micron 5ns chips..... How do you think they know which are bette before they buy from Micron?


You see thats the marketing part ;)


Originally posted by skate2snow


And they wont test the chip like that. They will just test if its able to do the speed/timings they whant, and if it pass, they are PC3700EB, if not, they degrade to PC3500 EB, if it does not pass, they degrade to PC3200EB. [/B]

I thats what I believe I just said :)

skate2snow
07-02-2004, 09:36 AM
But, Not much fails. They just take SOME not ALL at PC3700, and some at PC3500, some at PC3200 and if ones fail, they degrade....

bias_hjorth
07-02-2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by skate2snow
But, Not much fails. They just take SOME not ALL at PC3700, and some at PC3500, some at PC3200 and if ones fail, they degrade....

that "some" you are mentioning are not randomly choosen.. but yes cant argue with the rest..

jayl
07-05-2004, 08:48 PM
just got my 512MB PC-3700 stick yesterday and did some benchmarking straight out of the box.

VDIMM was set to 2.7V(max from bios) but this K8NS PRO overvolts a little so it´s actually 2.75V.
265MHz 3-3-2-8, 2T, benchmarked pifast and superpi 1M
255MHz 3-3-2-8, 1T, benchmarked pifast and superpi 1M
250MHz 3-3-2-8, 2T, superpi 8M

I´ll have to say that I am really impressed what this memory can do, even with 2.75V! I didin´t try running prime95 for stability, just tried some limits first... oh, I also didn´t try any lower latencies but I´ll try them later..
I´ll need to do some burn-in for couple of days and then see what this baby can do... though have to fix vdimm mod today to provide ~3V...

Couldn´t be more happy with this memory....:D
btw. performance is great even with those 3-3-2-8 latencies compared to my BH5 2-2-2-10...
:banana:

has anyone used the A64 tweaker with EB memory? I was just figuring which would be the fastest settings?

p4z1f1st
07-05-2004, 11:14 PM
did u get 2x256MB or 2x512MB ?

jayl
07-06-2004, 12:30 AM
I´ve got only one 512MB....

skate2snow
07-06-2004, 06:02 AM
I think this confirmes what I was thinking. I did a review w/ 2x256(so its SS), and w/ a P4, And the bandwidth was not very good too... But I was at 3 on CAS, its doing a little difference in bandwidth(actually enough big that I found....), and to have 2-2(RAS-RAS to CAS), you have to put 3CAS most of the times, so then the band is a bit debalanced becoze the CAS is higher then the RAS related.... But It should still have a better bandwidth....

Tony
07-06-2004, 07:02 AM
EB is all about variable read command and keeping trcd and trp tight using cas2.5 or cas3.

SS modules will always perform with less unbufftered bandwidth on the 875 due to the chipset design needing double sided dimms to perform best, on 939 and NF2 this is not the case although nf2 has a cpc issue with 512's or greater spread over 2 ranks.

Nyge
07-06-2004, 07:48 AM
Got my 3700 EB today (2x 512MB). After some quick benching 270 MHz seems stable. Timings where 3.0-2-2-7 and 3.1V. Didn't try any other timings or voltages.
Guess this result is OK. :)

skate2snow
07-06-2004, 08:09 AM
BigToe. Why OCZ make all 256MB modules SS? is it more expensive to make?

Geforce4ti4200
07-06-2004, 01:04 PM
my god those are some insane numbers for eb, anyone know whats my chances of hitting 250 at 3-2-2-8 at 2.9v?

I²K
07-06-2004, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
my god those are some insane numbers for eb, anyone know whats my chances of hitting 250 at 3-2-2-8 at 2.9v?

Il think mine did it.

bias_hjorth
07-06-2004, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
my god those are some insane numbers for eb, anyone know whats my chances of hitting 250 at 3-2-2-8 at 2.9v?

they should be very good.. allthough some modules like mine :rolleyes: wont go that much further.. It also seems as anything above 3.3vdimm dont do any good.. Been running mine off the 3.3v line (3.3v ---> vdimm mod) which gives me 3.45v - no oc difference at all compared to 3.1v..

p4z1f1st
07-06-2004, 11:46 PM
lets see....maybe the OCZ-Booster will bring a special-super-duper-ultra-deluxe-boost especially for OCZ-RAM-sticks :D ;)

then we can reach only with OCZ-RAM >300MHz / 2.5-2-2-5 @ 3.9V :slobber:


....I WANT THAT BOOSTER NOW ! :D

skate2snow
07-07-2004, 01:42 AM
Nah, I noticed that at 3.5V I first dont have a little boost at all, and the RAM's start to be unstable. So I think that at 3.9V the RAM's wont last long....

bias_hjorth
07-07-2004, 01:47 AM
tried 3.87v for a short time.. ..:slapass: did nothing besides smelling very warm.. :flame:

p4z1f1st
07-07-2004, 01:56 AM
rofl...ok....but still hoping of the super-ultra-boost for ocz-sticks, like for NV-Cards on NV-MoBos :D ;)

skate2snow
07-07-2004, 02:20 AM
Its ok, We saw your first message;):p:

p4z1f1st
07-07-2004, 02:35 AM
oops....deleted now :D ;)

Chris85
07-07-2004, 11:14 PM
My PC3700EB isn't very stable...The max I can do is about 230Mhz 3-2-2-10 (Or 2.5-2-2-10, doesn't make a difference) But after that it isn't stable, not even at 3.2-3.4V The max I did for a bench was 275Mhz 3-2-2-10, but not stable at all. (And using 1 stick, the max with 2 sticks is 260Mhz) The strange thing is that there's quite a big difference between 230Mhz max stable and 275Mhz max...Could it be the cooling of my NB, which is still stock cooled by the little cooler, or do I just have some bad Ram, and should I try to sell it and buy some new PC3700EB...

jayl
07-08-2004, 12:47 AM
That sounds a bit strange. I think you should perhaps eliminate the possibility of your MB, and/or maybe adding extra cooling to NB.
My PC-3700 512MB EB can do 265Mhz 3-3-2-8, 2T and yesterday I did some bechmarking 3-2-2-7, 1T 245MHz with only 2.75V...
And now it´s prime 7h stable @230MHz@2.75V@3-2-2-7, 1T.
I also noticed that these sticks tend to get very hot when running prime even with 2.75V so is your case cooling proper?

Chris85
07-08-2004, 01:12 AM
Yes, the case cooling is ok, I even put a fan on the memory and the room temp was about 20C...I'll do some more testing today, but I think I may just have some bad sticks...

I hoped to run the memory at 250Mhz 1:1 2.5-2-2-10 or 3-2-2-10, but that isn't possible with there, Prime crashes in about 1Min if I run at 250Mhz 1:1 :(

Nyge
07-08-2004, 02:08 AM
265 MHz (http://koti.mbnet.fi/hnygard/kuvia/Testituloksia/3700eb265mhz.jpg) 3-2-2-5 is what these sticks do stable with 3.1V. :)
BH-5 sticks would never do this.

p4z1f1st
07-08-2004, 02:36 AM
weeehhhh, very nice ! :) :slobber:

and "only" 3.1V :)

are u able to try 3.4-3.5V ? (i suppose, your mobo is vmodded)

timings are ok, just more MHz.....oh man, i dream of 300MHz 24/7...doesn't matter what timings :D ;)

SAE
07-08-2004, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Nyge
BH-5 sticks would never do this.

No. They don't like the CAS3 cra*p :lol:

p4z1f1st
07-08-2004, 02:52 AM
you know, that EB-Cas3 = normal-Cas2 ? ;)

Nyge
07-08-2004, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by p4z1f1st
weeehhhh, very nice ! :) :slobber:

and "only" 3.1V :)

are u able to try 3.4-3.5V ? (i suppose, your mobo is vmodded)

timings are ok, just more MHz.....oh man, i dream of 300MHz 24/7...doesn't matter what timings :D ;)

Thanks. I'm very pleased with these sticks. They where expensive, but guess they are worth the money :D

Yes I could try more voltages, just don't wanna blow these sticks. :)

I think my dream of 300 MHz is only a dream. Have one problem. I can bench 275 MHz, with 3-2-2-7 or 3-2-2-8 (3.1V), but 280 MHz is no go, even with 3-4-4-11. Dunno what the problem is? Have to find out.

p4z1f1st
07-08-2004, 03:11 AM
hmm....3.5V maybe for me ? :D

just wanted to see....but they're your sticks...;)

want to see, if the rumor of "upper-3.2V-doesn't bring alot @ OCZ-EB-sticks" is true.....

SAE
07-08-2004, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by p4z1f1st
you know, that EB-Cas3 = normal-Cas2 ? ;)

I doubt that (in 3d) - the difference ain't that big, but there's a difference. :D

3 clock cycles are 3 clock cycles (3=3╪2)... :rolleyes:

xgman
07-08-2004, 04:40 AM
OCZ has tested the EB's above 3v and it doesn't really help any more after that. At only 2.6v I can run stable at 252 or more, sync 3-3-2-7-1T dual ch. (2x512) on a 939 board. I think optimal voltage would probably be 3 or 3.1v at max. Otherwise they will run unnecessarily hot. A fan over them is really almost a must.

skate2snow
07-08-2004, 05:30 AM
p4z: No one as got better from 3V to 3.5V.... I myself didnt got a single MHz from 3.2V to 3.55V...

These RAM's are strange but sure good....

p4z1f1st
07-08-2004, 06:22 AM
hm...ok....really good results despite all that....:)

maybe in the next time come PC4000-EB with new/another chips, not just seperated, like the 3500/3700-one :)

stevenmh
07-08-2004, 08:45 AM
My 2 x 512 sticks have gotten better over the course of the past week, must be some kind of burn-in effect.

When I first fired it up a week ago the first thing I did was lower the multi and find the memory limit. Using P95 I determined that it would do 247 @ x-2-3-3, 1T, 2.8v. Trying 248 or trying x-2-2-3 at 247 caused errors in P95 fairly quickly.

Just for giggles I tried pushing it further last night. I still couldn't do x-2-2-3 at 247, but it took 3.5 hours to crash instead of 2 minutes. At x-2-3-3 it ran P95 overnight at 252. I fired up 3DMark this morning...hopefully it'll still be going when I get home. If so, I'll push a little more.

Mrki
03-08-2005, 08:08 AM
somebody test eb's on DFI s939?

mcnbns
03-08-2005, 08:12 AM
Holy thread resurrection, Batman!

I've been wondering the same thing as Mrki... Anyone?

jackolantern
03-08-2005, 09:59 AM
I have been reading thru this whole thread it's looooong, and I just don't get it. I picked up BH-5 a couple weeks ago. 2x256 HyperX-DDR3500 for 80euro including shipping, It's running at stock voltage @400Mhz 2-2-2-5 Sandra's memory benchie puts it at 5232MB/s this is faster than any I have seen in this thread.

I haven't got to turning up the voltage for a 1:1 overclock, but I don't get what the point is of running CL3@300Mhz if it's only going to be slower!

Ref
03-08-2005, 11:54 AM
It's running at stock voltage @400Mhz 2-2-2-5 Sandra's memory benchie puts it at 5232MB/s this is faster than any I have seen in this thread.

I haven't got to turning up the voltage for a 1:1 overclock, but I don't get what the point is of running CL3@300Mhz if it's only going to be slower!

You run it in DUAL CHANNEL, that's the difference.
BH-5 can't run CL3, and it's not lowering performance alot!
Remember, EB loves CL3, and BH-5 loves CL2.

andyOCZ
03-08-2005, 12:43 PM
somebody test eb's on DFI s939?

Yep, it works awsome! This board can supply the needed power, unlike the most NF3 boards.

Mrki
03-08-2005, 03:40 PM
Yep, it works awsome! This board can supply the needed power, unlike the most NF3 boards.


hmm i look to test it ;)

thegooner
03-08-2005, 04:06 PM
I use OCZ 3700EB with my DFI NF4 Ultra-D and it works fine. Using the bios that shipped with the board.

Still testing but have had 262 1:1 3.3.2.8 1T at v2.9

Mrki
03-08-2005, 05:17 PM
I use OCZ 3700EB with my DFI NF4 Ultra-D and it works fine. Using the bios that shipped with the board.

Still testing but have had 262 1:1 3.3.2.8 1T at v2.9


test with 3.1-3.3v ;)

WeStSiDePLaYa
03-08-2005, 07:41 PM
damn, my 3500eb is only doing like 265 3-2-2-8-10-15 maybe ill try lower volts?

HiJon89
03-08-2005, 07:46 PM
I have been reading thru this whole thread it's looooong, and I just don't get it. I picked up BH-5 a couple weeks ago. 2x256 HyperX-DDR3500 for 80euro including shipping, It's running at stock voltage @400Mhz 2-2-2-5 Sandra's memory benchie puts it at 5232MB/s this is faster than any I have seen in this thread.

I haven't got to turning up the voltage for a 1:1 overclock, but I don't get what the point is of running CL3@300Mhz if it's only going to be slower!
Try running with only 1 stick of memory in instead of two like people have been doing in this thread, you'll barely get 2600MB/s.

thegooner
03-10-2005, 06:11 AM
test with 3.1-3.3v ;)

Yeah I will :)


WeStSiDePLaYa damn, my 3500eb is only doing like 265 3-2-2-8-10-15 maybe ill try lower volts?

Is that a weak attempt at humour? :rolleyes:

_King_Pin_
05-13-2005, 08:26 AM
(thread resurrection again :D)

can you post some A64 tweaker pics with your timmings?? I´m have some problems to get my EB doing just 250 3-3-2-5.... :(

killingspreez
05-13-2005, 09:49 AM
that's not that impressive....okay this RAS2 @ 3xxmhz is amazing but with tccd based memory u get much higher bandwidth and u don't need that crazy amounts of volts :)

look at this, also s754 singechannel :
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/killingspreez-330fsb.JPG

mfg

_King_Pin_
05-13-2005, 10:12 AM
:stick:
this thread began in june-2004!! in that time EB was really good (and for me I think this mems still are good) and I think nobody knew what was a tccd chip...lol

somebody picked this thread sometime ago (march-2005) and I picked it again just to ask people to put some pics with timings with this mems and DFI NF4 939....
and... what bios do ya use with this mems.

killingspreez
05-13-2005, 10:16 AM
ah okay sorry :)

mfg

cujo
08-04-2005, 12:10 AM
no one has a64 tweaker screenies? i just got this board as well. 250 seems stable with all timings on auto at 2.8v.

iboomalot
08-04-2005, 01:06 PM
mine runs 256 at 3-3-2-8 in dual channel