Sometimes...

[JCviggen]

Its not so bad to get beaten...

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4596670

When you know you can retalliate :D

Hehe... I'm going to kick his ass with a DDR board ;)
Might be after the weekend ... i dont like him keeping that smile on his face that long , but rest assured he wont be above me much longer than that :D
I'm even going to try and go one up on the first LN2 guy but the Radeon i'm getting today will need to clock good for that. When Fugger's card gets here .... oh my :)

[Hardass]

Take him down!:toast:

[N8]

hehe....kick some ass JC :)

P.S. Don't go on vacation anytime soon or he'll have your score removed ;)

[JCviggen]

Originally posted by [N8]

P.S. Don't go on vacation anytime soon or he'll have your score removed ;)

LMAO

[ctgilles]

hehe :D
I think we will kick some holy ass next week with those cards :) :)
and remember, unopened box 4 me ;D

[bmg]

Originally posted by JCviggen

Hehe... I'm going to kick his ass with a DDR board ;)


Dumping the P4T533 and going with the IT7? I just did and I should have made the move earlier. I lose a bit in memory performance but more than make it up by being able to push my processor further.

[JCviggen]

Well I cant say getting an IT7 was a great idea. I'm prolly going to bench with my ASUS board.

The MAX2 was pretty good in terms of CPU OC ... could do 3Dmark at 3750 MHz. This :banana::banana::banana::banana:*ng IT7 MAX will kick me to the desktop at even 3.707 GHz. Memory OC is another disaster, it will NOT do 230 (or even 225) memory clock on the most relaxed timings possible and enhance off. I've had this stick of Corsair for a few days now (3200 C2) but its not getting any better so far. I tried a whole bunch of sticks, none of them worked past 220 slowest timings :(
I could bench at 178/178 tightest timings on the IT7 and it was exactly the same performance in 3Dmark as I get at 167(x4) on the ASUS. I need to run 3:4 ratio but these damn boards dont seem to want it. Should have gotten a MAX2 instead of an older MAX. Ar well, at least I did come across a fairly good 9700 today :)

Does 360 memory out of the box, GPU clock goes to about 395 stock cooling. Mainly I'm happy about that memory, with some good cooling I can get +20 MHz from stock on the memory, so about 380 there then.

[JCviggen]

http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/3d.JPG

much left in it ... but I need some goddamn better memory...

[OPPAINTER]

Congrads JC:toast:

About F'n Time :D

OPP

[Hardass]

That,s a pretty picture. Congrats JC.

[majormav]

congrats JC just about finished fitting pelt myself so will be getting a few more later i hope ,,,,, go for the big 20k now m8:toast:

[Marci]

nice one d00d... keep em comin!

[sysfailur]

Woo! Heck yeah ;)

[JCviggen]

I really need memory that will do more than 230... timings can be slow doesnt really matter but I need like 235 slow timings... ppl are getting it everywhere but I cant seem to manage it :(

Would be well into 20K if the mem would follow the CPU...

[DDTUNG]

Nice one, JC!

Maybe you should give our digital friend a bigger handicap next time. You might have to go back to the Ti4600. I remember I had to use an AMD chip against his Intel to try to let him win, but still I couldn't.

DDTUNG:cool:

[N8]

Nice work JC, very nice score! His title for his bench don't look dumb er anything now :) Does it? ;)

[PiLsY]

JC - its the board not the memory.

Ive tried 4 Blue Box IT7s and 2 blue box IT7-2's and they all top out at 230mhz memory. Timings dont matter a jot. Its this damned ECS crap thats doing it.

For the record - My original red box IT7 (complete with beach ball :D) did 242mhz for benching and 240mhz day to day stable.

Got a new board arriving hopefully tomorrow, latest thursday so i'll let you know how that goes. Hoping for a pleasant surprise :).

PiLsY.

[JCviggen]

Bugger, so where the f*** can I find a decent board??

Besides, DJ is running his MAX2 way in the 230s, Chainbolt is running his max2 in the far 230s ... why the hell doesnt this board want to :(
The IT7 max is indeed also a blue box...


If anyone has a decent IT7 or smth for sale that will go near 240 DDR, drop me a line...

[majormav]

if you can get the red box (with beach ball ) i had it do 242 with the 2.26 easy enough however with the newer chips the voltages are all over the place however with the promethia cooling it well down you may not have the voltage issues as bad as me so you may have better luck

congrats again m8 on your score ... i will be playing later on tonight when temps drop a bit

[bmg]

Originally posted by JCviggen
Memory OC is another disaster, it will NOT do 230 (or even 225) memory clock on the most relaxed timings possible and enhance off. I've had this stick of Corsair for a few days now (3200 C2) but its not getting any better so far. I tried a whole bunch of sticks, none of them worked past 220 slowest timings :(


My IT7 and corsair arrived last week and it's doing a bit better than what your's is doing. I can run memory at 225 at 2.8V without extra northbridge cooling. I'm going to remove the heatsink from the 845E and add a fan and AS3 and see if I can get above 230. I've got another couple of sticks of the XMS3200C2 arriving this week so it will be interesting to see how they do. Since I'm already getting 225 I'm thinking 230+ should be possible with better northbridge cooling and maybe higher Vmem.

On another note, xbitlabs says the new 845PE will support agp 8X. Anyone know if this is true? I thought it was still only agp 4x.

[JCviggen]

Originally posted by majormav
if you can get the red box (with beach ball ) i had it do 242 with the 2.26 easy enough however with the newer chips the voltages are all over the place however with the promethia cooling it well down you may not have the voltage issues as bad as me so you may have better luck

congrats again m8 on your score ... i will be playing later on tonight when temps drop a bit



my voltages are pretty much rock steady... and there is no way for me to get a red box one. They are nowhere to be found in stock, they're all on order and what you get is a blue box.
Pretty damn depressing there isnt a mobo out there to be bought that suits my needs :mad: :confused:
178 FSB 3:4 is it thÃ:banana:t much to ask...? :(

Also, cooling / AS3 / different heatsink on the NB I already tried and it did nothing. It goes to 226 mem cas2 fairly easy on 2.8 and 2.9V and after that I can do what I like with voltage or timings, it will not run any higher than that...

[D.J]

NIce one J.c:)
But i aint on no max2 my friend im on a 1.
Looks like a need a card that does better than 451/351 now:)

DD Stop insulting me buy even thinking your near the same class as me.
What have you had one good overclock in 2 years?
TRy staying on the front page since day one then we can talk!

[JCviggen]

ey Thanks DJ cool that you join in on the convo :)

Damn I thought you were using a MAX2 :(
I have a regular IT7 max sitting here and it doesnt do any better than the max2. I'd say its about the same except for the PS2 ports.

I can run 178/178 but then I even lose points in the car test compared to 169 3:4, go figure.

I need 177 or 178 3:4 simple as that.. then I can pass up the first of the LN2 blokes.

Hope your next card is better DJ, one that does 400/360+ stock is coming in with fedex this week :)

see you on the orb :)

No need to go into discussion with DDTUNG btw, he's the most sensible of us all by retiring from active 3D benching! :D

[zakelwe]

Andy opens the popcornm and sits back to watch the fun ....

[bmg]

Originally posted by bmg

On another note, xbitlabs says the new 845PE will support agp 8X. Anyone know if this is true? I thought it was still only agp 4x.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1033165631 I emailed Anton last night about this article, which originally said that the IT7 Max2 Version 2 would support agp 8x. I just noticed that he changed 8x to 4x.

[PiLsY]

The real ööööö for me was that my original IT7 only needed a hot flash to fix it - I just didnt have the kit to do it here. That puppy was happy at 240mhz mem day to day ffs. It did exactly the same 230mhz @ 2/7/3/2/Enhance as this IT7, its just as soon as I changed to 2/7/3/3/Enhance I got an extra 10mhz. On this IT7 it makes sweet f'k all difference changing the timings lower.

Even if the soltek board doesnt go a single mhz higher, the increased memory bandwidth should see me gain some points.

PiLsY.

[JCviggen]

if it makes you feel any better, mine doesnt run 226 2/7/2/3 enhance stable even. Gets through 3Dmark most times though
230 would already be an improvement for me...

[N8]

You're not going to get very far insulting DDTUNG's OC'n ability in this forum, BJ...we all know better :)

[Marci]

DDTUNG doesn't have to bench... we already know how good he is by the voltmods he produces... some ppl concentrate on the benching, others concentrate ont he stuff we need to be able to DO the benching competitively. DDT provides the info required for the REST of us to bench so that he doesn't have to (at a guess!)... plus, if he's anything like me then time is a big aspect... I hardly have 10 minutes to take a sh*te these days let alone spend a few hours benching...

[TheDude]

Don't worry im out of here faster then i came in!

I bet his girlfriend is tired of hearing that one!:D

[PiLsY]

Knowing DJ it wouldnt bother his girlfriend at all - shes probably inflatable.

PiLsY.

[PiLsY]

JC - just thought m8 - when the soltek board arrives this IT7 will be sitting around doing bugger all. If you like I can package it up and mail it out to you. I KNOW itll do 173 3:4 on a 2.26b all day long, and 175 for 3dmark. However, the best ive managed for 3dmark on the 2.8b has been 172mhz 3:4. Anyway, the offers there if you want a shot at it.

Youll have to sort out northbridge cooling though as its currently watercooled - and I want it back after - its got £50 of Tweakmonster Ramsinks on it :p.

PiLsY.

[JCviggen]

Originally posted by PiLsY
JC - just thought m8 - when the soltek board arrives this IT7 will be sitting around doing bugger all. If you like I can package it up and mail it out to you. I KNOW itll do 173 3:4 on a 2.26b all day long, and 175 for 3dmark. However, the best ive managed for 3dmark on the 2.8b has been 172mhz 3:4. Anyway, the offers there if you want a shot at it.

Youll have to sort out northbridge cooling though as its currently watercooled - and I want it back after - its got £50 of Tweakmonster Ramsinks on it :p.

PiLsY.

sounds tempting m8

Jupiler/Metalhead is coming over on wednesday so i can try his IT7 see if it makes any difference.... his best is around 230-232 MHz at 2/7/2/3 I think.... what does your board manage at those settings? Or 2/7/3/3 for that matter.... 172 is a whole lot better than 169 2/7/3/3 already I think. Thats 60 MHz CPU speed ;)
I'll see what happens wednesday

cheers!!

[PiLsY]

Exactly the same settings m8.

Cas 2, tras 7, TRCD 3, TRP 2, Enhance on. Could do 230 - 232 no sweat (173 3:4) with the 2.26b, with the 2.8b its at around 229mhz (171 3:4). Dropping timings makes no difference, it just wont go any higher.

Ill just paste in a quick bit of info from a pm I just sent to mav - it shows the boards power problems very well. Bear in mind the only power line that changed worth mentioning was the Vcore. vDDR, 3.3v, 5v and 12v were unaffected.

The below readings are averages taken off MBM after an hour of 100% seti load.

3413mhz needs 1.47v actual (default).
3434mhz needs 1.50v actual.
3455mhz needs 1.52v actual.
3476mhz needs 1.55v actual.
3497mhz needs 1.57v actual.
3518mhz needs 1.60v actual.
3539mhz needs 1.63v actual.
3560mhz needs 1.65v actual.
3581mhz needs 1.67v actual.
3602mhz needs 1.74v actual.

Very weird how it needs a voltage jump at every setting after default maxes out. That last push to get 3.6ghz is a VERY big jump. Voltages are as jumpy as ever. Now heres for the interesting part - the minimum voltage spikes it can cope with without crashing. This tells a much more realistic tale of the CPUs capability. Listed below are the lowest readings on the Vcore over the same hour as the averages listed above. This CPU has MUCH more in it than the board is allowing.

3413mhz : 1.43v actual (default).
3434mhz : 1.43v actual.
3455mhz : 1.44v actual.
3476mhz : 1.43v actual.
3497mhz : 1.45v actual.
3518mhz : 1.44v actual.
3539mhz : 1.46v actual.
3560mhz : 1.46v actual.
3581mhz : 1.48v actual.
3602mhz : 1.48v actual.



Sums up the problem very well I think :(.

PiLsY.

[JCviggen]

that IS strange... voltages on my IT7 and this MAX2 which i'm using now are as stable as they get... I'm stressed @ 1.73V and it stays at 1.73. The graph in CPU Cool is actually a flat line for the Vcore. About once every 20 seconds it can go to 1.72 or 1.74 but thats the biggest jump I ever see...

[majormav]

if it wasnt for the voltage problems now this board would be a belter does 179 at 3:4 with the 2.26 although ive had to go down with the faster chips.. would let you have a dabble with it but its the only p4 board ive got at the moment