View Full Version : P4 2.26 sl6D6???
fireandsmoke
09-19-2002, 09:23 PM
All,
Checking out a shops 2.26's, they say they're sl6D6's what's that mean? Any good? AND Googlegear has 533fsb 2.4's for $191??
What's the filet mignon and what's the rump roast in -$200cpu's
AND has anyone seen a review for the Soyo p4x400 mobo??
F&S:confused:
TheHunter
09-19-2002, 11:48 PM
SL6D6 is the stepping, it's an "old" one from the B0 series, if u can ask them for an SL6DU stepping from the new C1 series that overclock better.
chainbolt
09-22-2002, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by TheHunter
SL6D6 is the stepping, it's an "old" one from the B0 series, if u can ask them for an SL6DU stepping from the new C1 series that overclock better.
and how do you now this?
(a) 2.26 with the C1 stepping are not yet retailing
(b) the C1 stepping has nothing to with the overclocking potential.
The best overclockers are still the 1.6 and 1.8 P4 with the BO stepping.
TheHunter
09-23-2002, 02:42 AM
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1028054683
Marci
09-23-2002, 02:54 AM
c1 stepping 2.2's are available in the UK... and from the top boys, they're all after Malaysian C1 stepping chips as they're the best overclockers apparently....
chainbolt
09-23-2002, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by TheHunter
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1028054683
I asked how do you know that the C1 stepping is better for overclocking?
Such a comparison is not possible, simple as this. Because NOBODY knows how the new 2.5/2.66 and 2.80 would work with a BO stepping. And on the other hand the older processors are not yet produced with the C1 stepping, so that we could compare, let's say a 2.2 with B0 with a 2.2 with C1.
chainbolt
09-23-2002, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by Marci
c1 stepping 2.2's are available in the UK... and from the top boys, they're all after Malaysian C1 stepping chips as they're the best overclockers apparently....
Intel is NOT YET retailing 2.2 with the C1 stepping. Check it out by yourself.
They may do so later, but not now, and certainly there is not such a CPU in the UK. But currently ONLY processors clocked 2500 Mhz and higher have the new (shrinked) core and the C1 stepping. Anything else B0.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=483
TheHunter
09-23-2002, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by chainbolt
I asked how do you now that the C1 stepping is better for overclocking?
That's what all the articles i read says.
chainbolt
09-23-2002, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by TheHunter
That's what all the articles i read says.
then it's wrong, becuase (see my explanation above) it's logically not possible to make such a statement. Just by "feeling": I have tested several 2.26 B0 and 2.66 C1. I don't see any difference which I could relate to the stepping. It's pure luck, within both stepping you will find bad, average and good overclockers.
cobase
09-23-2002, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by chainbolt
Intel is NOT producing 2.2 with the C1 stepping. Check it out by yourself.
They do (or will), check out the attachment.
Originally posted by chainbolt
They may do so later, but not now, and certainly there is not such a CPU in the UK. But currently ONLY processors clocked 2500 Mhz and higher have the new (shrinked) core and the C1 stepping. Anything else B0.
You can barely get any C1s in Austria. Have to get them from Germany. What a pain...:censored:
chainbolt
09-23-2002, 07:40 AM
A fine exampel for quoting papers one have not read before :)
As I said, Intel is NOT YET retailing C1 2.2. The paper your refer to is for future production. C1 for 2.2 is announced for BEGINNING of October. Check out Intel's web side. There are listed ALL processors which are currently sold. Follow the link I provided.
(a) do you think Intel is not listing processors they retail?
(b) if so, please show me the retail box of a 2.2 with the S-specs for a C1 stepping.
cobase
09-23-2002, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by chainbolt
As I said, Intel is NOT YET retailing C1 2.2.
You said NOT, and not NOT YET, thats a difference. By the way, i said they are producing them, i have NOT said that they are already retailing. Or do you think Intel will start to produce them on 'October 4th? ;)
chainbolt
09-23-2002, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by cobase
You said NOT, and not NOT YET, thats a difference. By the way, i said they are producing them, i have NOT said that they are already retailing. Or do you think Intel will start to produce them on 'October 4th? ;)
ok, then we are in agreement: it's currently not possible to buy a
2.26 with the C1 stepping, und wir koennen auch auf gut Deutsch sprechen. I know this because in Japan, Intel CPU is always sold first, it's their iost important market. I tried very hard to get a 2.26 with the C1 stepping, but nothing. And nobody should tell me that in a remote place like UK, such a processor is "availbale" now :D
cobase
09-23-2002, 09:16 AM
I tried to buy a C1 2,5 and a Celeron 2,0 (also a C1, does 3,5 GHz with aircooling) today, but guess what? Nowhere to have. Goddammit, i could cry.
(Natürlich könnten wir Deutsch miteinander reden, aber das wäre den anderen Forumsmitgliedern gegenüber unfair denke ich ;) ).
I must be missing something Chainy.
B1 2.53 chips rarely get past 2.9GHz. Yet C1 2.66 chips
have been reported to exceed 3G with ease.
Doesnt that mean C1 is better than B0?
Jim
PiLsY
09-27-2002, 12:49 AM
Hes just being a fool - ignore him.
C1 step is a huge improvement over B0. 2.8b @ 3.62ghz atm and still a bit more to come. The 2.53 tops out between 3 and 3.3ghz on B0 step, the 2.5 C1 step tops out at about 3.6 - 3.7ghz. Evidence enough to my eyes.
Chainbolt just likes to argue for the sake of it. If I were you id just ignore him. Most other people do.
PiLsY.
JCviggen
09-27-2002, 01:29 AM
Pilsy, my 2.53 made 3460 stable with some prometeia cooling. I believe the B0 stepping had one big advantage over the C1 and that is that the chips actually liked voltage. With the C1's, super cooling doesnt give you as much extra over air cooling as you could get on the older P4's :(
They stop scaling once you're around 1.70V, and thats kinda sad... I wouldnt mind running 1.80/1.85 for benching and get 100 MHz higher ...
Also, I think chainbolt has a point. You have to remember that the HIGHER the stock speed, the further you'll get anyway no matter what the stepping is. A hypothetical B0 2.66 would go much higher than a B0 2.53 anyway. Although it has to be said that probably the C1 P4's in lower speed grades will overclock a bit better, but they wont hit nearly the speeds of the top models. The only reason they'll overclock better is that they're newer. Intel simply doesnt put out any bad silicon anymore and the 'lesser' ones still go pretty well.