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saaya
03-19-2004, 09:09 AM
http://cascadesystems.net/nocona.htm

WTH? :stick:

faruquehabib
03-19-2004, 09:16 AM
socket 604..isnt that a xeon socket?? weird....and expensive

enzoR
03-19-2004, 09:16 AM
whats it sopposed to be? CPU, but from which company? heheh sorry for the noob question but i dont follow these kinda stuffs

saaya
03-19-2004, 09:19 AM
intels server version of a prescott... look at the pcb all around that chip! :eek: wth??? it looks like a pre pentium 1 chip to me...

enzoR
03-19-2004, 10:05 AM
WTFFF no way that thing will sell...

STEvil
03-19-2004, 10:30 AM
omg... lol... EXTERNAL POWER CONNECTORS!!!!.


LOL!!



HAHAHA... oh god my gut hurts from laughing XD

enzoR
03-19-2004, 10:32 AM
man i really feel sorry for intel.

Crankster
03-19-2004, 10:34 AM
pwnage... i want 1

juanblanco
03-19-2004, 11:00 AM
umm, those are some kinda of motherboard design tools =| http://cascadesystems.net/mbd.htm , other ones listed there, prolly used to see how the rest of the mobo is effected by the heat and voltages put to a motherboard, all the stuff on the chip is prolly measurement interface stuff

Reflex1
03-19-2004, 11:01 AM
looks like sh*t! ...

SupaMan
03-19-2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by STEvil
omg... lol... EXTERNAL POWER CONNECTORS!!!!.


LOL!!



HAHAHA... oh god my gut hurts from laughing XD

probably wont be there on the finished product. external power connectors get used on a lot of alpha/beta hardware and never make it to retail.

saw something they were using to build A64 the other day and it had a molex connector on it... wasn't really a mobo...

IvanAndreevich
03-19-2004, 11:07 AM
Lol look at that heatsink! That's a friggning monster. I bet we won't see those chips in U1 anytime soon.

saaya
03-19-2004, 11:14 AM
whats a vtt assemly ? is it a power circuicity tohelp the power components of the mainboard to create enough stable volts or is it a testing tool?


Originally posted by IvanAndreevich
Lol look at that heatsink! That's a friggning monster. I bet we won't see those chips in U1 anytime soon.

its not big at all, just look at the molex connector.

SupaMan
03-19-2004, 11:15 AM
by the way, i count 602 pins, not 604.

enzoR
03-19-2004, 11:41 AM
LoL.... you musta missed 2 somewhere :D

SupaMan
03-19-2004, 11:44 AM
or there are only 602 pins. Count yourself...


31*25 = 775
775 - 13*13 = 606
606 - 1 - 1 - 2 = 602

Anarki
03-19-2004, 12:12 PM
You're right as well!

2 pins missing from the top row 2 pins missing at the bottom right!

And the other equation is correct, so it is 602 pins!

Gold star for pointing that out :banana:

Çhrist0ph
03-19-2004, 12:18 PM
so this thing is supposed to be a 64bit prescott? is it supposed to be better than the itanium?

skate2snow
03-19-2004, 12:40 PM
I dont think we will see something beat the Itanium2 soon;)

tritium
03-19-2004, 12:46 PM
dont think we will see something beat the Itanium2 soon

In over half the programs, The Opteron comes to mind.:stick: :stick: :stick: :stick: :stick: :stick: :stick:

Farbror
03-19-2004, 12:51 PM
That just look like Sh*t to me.... lol it looks like u could have ur cpu 2meters from your case with just a longer cabel.....

Charles Wirth
03-19-2004, 12:53 PM
Yes, 64 bit and no, not better than the Itaniums

what is funny about molex connectors? maybe that is how the power is run to the fan?

I bet if that were actually a AMD processor the remarks by some would have been the opposite.

Ivan, yes 1U

That image is of a test module, notice the reset button and the clock crystal. status LED's at the top. The core sits above the PCB so I doubt this is what the end product will look like. It should be more like the socket 775 package.

One of the 10 pin connectors looks like the flat panel connecor from a SBC board.

Charles Wirth
03-19-2004, 12:55 PM
Opteron cannot touch the Itaniums in 64 bit, not even close.

Crankster
03-19-2004, 01:00 PM
True.. Say fugger... Give an Itanium 2 chip some cascade luvvin? :P

`schr0et
03-19-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by FUGGER
Opteron cannot touch the Itaniums in 64 bit, not even close.

Itanium usese iAMD extensions tho :banana:

Charles Wirth
03-19-2004, 01:11 PM
No they dont, Itanium was around long before the Opteron. It does not have 3Dnow or x86-64 anything capable.

Its the other way around. AMD is adopting SSE3 and has shipped SSE2 in the A64.

saaya
03-19-2004, 01:33 PM
and intel is adopting amd64 instructions in its nocona/prescotts, will introduce a pr rating like amd and integrate the northbridge into its next gen cpus... its a give and take and i dont really understand what all this "we had it first" thing is about...

who cares who came up with the idear first, its about who gets it to work the best! :)

i wonder if tejas will already have an integrated nb

YoupY
03-19-2004, 01:45 PM
WTF

Is it a bird, is it a plain...

no it's the nocona proc :D

How can somebody possibly put phase change on it??

Soulburner
03-19-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by YoupY
WTF

Is it a bird, is it a plain...

no it's the nocona proc :D

How can somebody possibly put phase change on it??
You haven't been reading the thread...:rolleyes:

kommando
03-19-2004, 04:46 PM
Is it me or i just don't wanna lay my hands on that thing :stick:

saaya
03-19-2004, 05:02 PM
i still dont get what this thing is? a beta nocona cpu? a cpu adapter for testing volts? a cpu card to stabilize the volts?

masterofpuppets
03-19-2004, 05:08 PM
Freaky thingy processor thingy.

Frank E. BoNeS
03-19-2004, 05:22 PM
Guys c'mon..... :stick: If you look around the site you'll see that this company sells motherboard design tools.....which that thing is used for....

heh...check out the LGA775 one....

http://cascadesystems.net/lga775.htm

saaya
03-19-2004, 05:25 PM
then maybe its a card to test whether the board can deliver enough clean volts?

masterofpuppets... your sig is... a bit...... out of shape?

STEvil
03-19-2004, 07:13 PM
I'll admit I went hard on the power connector, but it really was quite amusing seeing it there ;)

If manufacturers put larger traces on their motherboards and connected each wire to the rest of the same type, then there wouldnt be nearly so many undervoltage issues at the mosfets.

Good example is my 8kta3+'s... both of them are at 5.05 (up from 4.78) after I beefed up the vsupply circuitry, and i'm thinking on doing the same to my 8rda+ soon, too...

faruquehabib
03-19-2004, 07:50 PM
itaniums may beat the opteron, but look at the cost of each...for the price of two itaniums, you can have 4 opterons

Soulburner
03-19-2004, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by saaya
masterofpuppets... your sig is... a bit...... out of shape?
I agree. That is one sweet song but he has some of the lyrics wrong...

Çhrist0ph
03-19-2004, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by tritium
In over half the programs, The Opteron comes to mind.:stick: :stick: :stick: :stick: :stick: :stick: :stick:

opteron owns xeon, not itanium

Kanavit
03-20-2004, 05:57 AM
The Itanium uses EPIC and not CISC cpu architecture so it cannot use iAMD64 instructions because it is completely different. The Itanium uses IA-64 architecture and not IA-32e EMT64(Extended memory technology 64).