Thermal compounds reviewed

[Bulldog]

Probably not the winner you thought...done by a friend of mine ..no freebies results are real and documented..LINK (http://www.insideproject.com/showreview.cfm?reviewid=81)

[TheDude]

Bulldog...

Wizard did an EXCELLENT job on this review! Best I have seen on this topic!

:toast:

[Bulldog]

You would not believe how long it took him to ensure exact testing ...

[Silversink]

I made some inquireries as to where to get the Shin Etsu G-751

They are a great company they wrote me back immediatly and were very friendly. I'm ordering some over the weekend. (From

HERE (http://www.ajigo-store.com/therin.html)

I also noticed there is a variant sold at Newegg, Shin-Etsu MicroSi's G749

I wrote to MicroSi and asked whats the difference between the '749' and the 751

I also inquired to ask if I may know what the compound is specificly made of.

[Smizack]

I would like a tube if anyone could get ahold of some.

[mook]

To be honest...I'm not surprised at the winner. Considering most of the thermal compound reviews are biased in one sense or another, not running a full battery of tests for more than 1 day, etc...

I am surprised though that the "few" OEM's use this, and that no word of it has been in any review or anything that I've read over the years.

Very odd....but I'll be ordering a tube out of sheer curiosity.

[TheDude]

I do remember reading that Shin Etsu G-751 was the best available on the net, but don't remember where that was and saw no further mention of it until this review. It was a very impressive review with a lot of care taken to be as accurate as possible. I would be interested in trying this stuff also...pretty impressive results!:D

Thanks to Silversink for posting the Ajigo link...I am ordering a tube..They are in CA. USA. and a tube is only $6. I need some anyway and because of Wizards review..I have to try some!:D

[Bulldog]

Fella's I have a friend who gave me some about 18 months ago ,on a different site I reported that on 3rd day ..big time temp drops -6-8 o ....gave some to a INDEPENDENT test site in UK...run by a very knowledgeable guy ...thinking somehow my results were flawed...he reported a seven degree drop with amazement..the company is very guarded about it's chemical makeup...any doubters about time laspe pm me and I'll give ya links btw my friend is from asia and a employee of cray...in what field I am not certain...and now they have a new improved paste that is a little easier to spread..look its cheap and it works...after it cures 3 days

[Hardass]

I ordered 2 tubes yesterday, I use Silicone Grease made by same company in my cpu and gpu sockets for condensation protection. Thanks to DaGooch.:)

[King_of_qb]

i just ordered 2 tubes to go with a ax-7 i am getting

[Blackhawk]

The link doesn't work for me :(

[King_of_qb]

i guess the site is down

[mook]

Well, got my two tubes a few days ago, and impressed doesn't even begin to state what I'm seeing.

Given, I just picked up an AX-7 and the Vantec Hair Dryer fan :p , but I'm getting 35c temps at full load....that's disturbing beyond belief. It's burned in for 24 hours now, I'll let it go for another 2 days and see if the temps get any lower, but wow....all I can say.

[Nohto]

Has anyone seen the following sites
Thermagon (http://www.thermagon.com/tpli200.pdf)
Peltier Device Information Directory (http://www.peltier-info.com/tims.html)
Check it out the second has a list of several alternative thermal transfer solutions. Someone a little (should say a lot) more knowledgeable in the physics department let me know what yuu think.

[Hardass]

I got this product on friday. Here,s one for you. 1.2 T.B we all know how hot these run. Installed, running at 1460MHz, 1.85v, temp full load 50c. Here,s the thing this is with a STOCK heatsink and fan. This stuff works guys. I have a 1600 running at 1760MHz full load and temp is 39c in a 80 degree room. I like!:)

[Bulldog]

Sorry about site ........server was upgraded it's a ok now, glad you guys like the stuff...we have known about it for quite a while but did not pimp it until Wizard tested in a controlled situation..rather be late and right 100% than early and make people get hopes up for nothing and waste $$$

[Penguin4x4]

Any1 else heard of Evergreen TherMagic? I'd like to see some comparos myself, :)

[frozenphil]

I'm going to order some from the link you posted...but does anybody know if this is a comparable product?
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=shin+etsu
Phil

[seversphere]

I don't think that is pure G-751

the W/mK is listed at 6.8 which would be a lot better than G-751's 4.5 W/mk so I think that is wrong info.

I think it was commented that the stuff from newegg/coolermaster is a mix of shin etsu and something else. And it may be the shin etsu g-750 mixed.

this link (http://www.silicone.jp/e/solution/heatdissipation/fluid/fluid.html) is stats

this link (http://www.oclabs.com/news/archive/15set2002.php) shows real g751 compared to coolermaster's mix.

it is good nonetheless. I'm pretty sure I can buy that coolermaster stuff locally.

[WinXP]

Shin Etsu G-751:Sale price: $7.95 1gram syringe
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/tai-sol/shing7thergr.html

[seversphere]

I'd been looking up shin etsu info for a while and on the 11th the taisol link came up in search so I think they just started carrying it. Better than ajigo store cause I think there tube is just what taisol charges 4.20 for.

[Justintoxicated]

I heard they already released a newer compound than the G751 buts not avialable in the U.S. yet :(

Supposedly the maker only sells in large quantities like over 400$ worth at a time, im still waiting for it to hit the market! Supposd to be even better than the G-751

[seversphere]

not being mean but worthless rumors. Whatever they emailed that person back was just hearsay.

Just buy you a tube of G-751 and be happy. No point in waiting. And all those X vs. X threads do you what good? You go by what any person might feel like typing. Not a good way to decide things. :P

[KnightElite]

I wonder if Shin Etsu gives free samples the way Arctic Silver does..... I got some free AS3 and AS Ceramique (their new prototype compound) from Nevin. Maybe I'll just buy some Shin Etsu.... :banana:.

[seversphere]

KE time for ceramique (http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=172300) to be tested! All I want to know is if you get better temps than AS3.

Hurry! :banana:

[KnightElite]

Yeah... Taking my whole system apart to take my block off is annoying though ;). And it's not particularly sticky, but it's a much thicker consistency than AS3. I don't remember offhand whether I used ceramique or AS3 last time I remounted my waterblock. I suppose I'll have to take it apart and check now.....

[seversphere]

apparently this is their answer to shin etsu!

So their final formula should be either easier to apply and/or get even better temps than the review. Cause the G-751 is still at least 2F lower if it were compared in the review.

[WinXP]

Well I recieved the G-751 today, removed Maze3, cleaned AS2 from XP2200 an wb. The G-751 is thick like putty, just what review said but was not expecting this thick. Hard to get a thin coat but managed. Temps are no different for me than with AS2 I was using, but review says in 3 days it will be lower. So I will see.

[Charles Wirth]

I got the uber!

Here is a the newest addition to the copper thermal compound lineup, and strangly enough it is made by geil.

http://fugger.netfirms.com/geil.jpg

Better viscosity at sub zero temps

Compliments of Victor (VP of Geil) who I hope will be sendng out my PC3700 soon.

Thanks Victor,

[Bulldog]

Update fellas there is a new compound from them...early testing by 3 different peeps ( myself included) are astounding...it does not have to be refrigated..spreads smoother...and cooler....I have asked for a few samples tubes to be given to some peeps to try...no promises but 3 airclockers will get a PM shortly:D

[WinXP]

Bulldog

Does the GS-751 need to be refridgerated, from what you said ?

[seversphere]

wow quick to production. Very glad to hear it cause Artic "I don't give a phuck about the C" Silver needs to stop charging so much for stuff that is barely better than the previous stuff that was barely better than the previous stuff.

Kudos for the fact that ceramique is made to be non conductive/capacitive and beats AS3. What's the preview on the new shin etsu along these lines? Let's hope the price doesn't leave a sour taste in our mouths.

[Bulldog]

The original is supposed to stay at 45o F...I have always kept mine in a cool dark place...It will be available shortly for retail, or so I am told..non conductive , but I will have my pals all check to be 100%....and they are NOT as..prices will remain VERY competive...we are a new market for them, products formely used in high end nasa products and such and only available in huge lots..

[WinXP]

I have been running the Shin Etsu G-751 for a couple of weeks an seen no difference in temps from my AS2 with a Maze3 wb not even 1 degree. I was previously running a Maze1 wb with AS2 an when I put the Shin Etsu G-751, put the Maze3 on thinking temps would lower a little, but no difference than Maze1. So I put the Maze1 back on yesterday an AS2 an same temps again. I have tried the Maze3 with AS2 an got the same temps as Maze1 an AS2. I know both wb's make good contact, I check the imprint each time I remove the blocks.

[seversphere]

so you ordered from the taisol store?

I wonder if it might be any different than what ajigo has? - probably not though.

with this compound besides the temp reading the same have you been able to oc any farther? - this might tell you that you need to improve something about the water setup (seeing as how maze1/maze3 with as2 make no difference in temps - isn't maze3 better?)

[WinXP]

Ordered the G-751 from the taisol store an o/c stayed the same. I have been running the XP2200+ at 2100 with 1.775v. The max the chip will run is 2150 with 1.95v but not stable. 2100 is where it likes to run stable. Ambient temps stay close to 78F inside the house, temps at idle show 51C with the on board die reading it an max out at 55C running P95 or any of the stress programs. It only has a 4C change in temp with either the Maze1 or 3 with the G-751 or AS2. The water cooling is a resivor with a Super mag drive 250 pump,6"x6"x2" heater core with a Comair Rotron 235cfm fan on 7v all system is 1/2" tubing. The water setup is outside the case only with hole drilled in back of case for lines to pass thru. The Maze3 has a better flow rate than the Maze1 but temps don't change.

[seversphere]

wonder why the mixed results from all the users and reviews.

[King_of_qb]

any word on the new shin etsu thermal compound?

[Walrusbonzo]

I was using AS3 with my 1GHz Athlon at 1.4GHz with 2v, air cooled, load temps of 50C~

I also had a 1600+ at 1.8ghz with 1.9v, air cooled, load temps of 46C~

Changed to Shin Etsu and after 2 to 3 days I was getting 3c to 4C less full load.

It's definitely better than AS3

[TheDude]

Tom who is regional manager with Thermagon is sending me sample of new product called T-401 grease to test. It is supposed to be as good as Shin Etsu, but a lot cheaper and easier to spread. I will work out a price and link with him so you guys can order it, if it tests well. Will let you know as soon as I get it and try it out.:D