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GazC
07-15-2004, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by SAE
He wanted a proof ;)

No trust here... :D

I cannot understand why on earth he would think I was BS-ing about something as trivial as CPU voltage. :rolleyes:

Massive
07-17-2004, 12:09 AM
Strange problem with LP B here...

It won't boot with Duron Morgan core 1,3Ghz...with 1/31 BIOS...
I've tried almost everything....remove J8...clearing CMOS...took off all peripheral and put it back on again
Before that I'm using Barton mobile 2400+ OC 203x12@1,65v....i forgot to change BIOS setting...so when I change it with Duron Morgan...it won't post anything, it won't even sounds anything too?...
Now I can't use my CPU cause I'm waiting for my new Mobile and all I got is this Duron

FYI...The Duron worked fine on my other mobo

Whats up here?...or maybe LP B doesn't support Duron morgan core???

SAE
07-17-2004, 01:05 AM
Wow. Duron should be supported... 1/31 bios??
`
Hmm. No chance to flash 1-21, 6-19 or even the offical 11-27???

If the bios is really not able to detect there's a duron inserted, then you won't be able to use it :(

Last chance would be a hotflash to either of the bioses named above...

Massive
07-17-2004, 09:15 AM
Yes...so I guess I won't be able to use my rig for a while until I get my new Barton :( ...
All of the four led indicator is on anyway...but it don't even post to BIOS..
I still think its kinda strange...I guess none of the LP B user use their system with low proc like Duron...so its kinda forgotten on BIOS update...

I'll give u an update until I get my new Barton...if its worked...then it must be the mobo that doesn't compatible with Duron...
On my previous mobo EPOX 8RDA+ this Duron is worked fine...and I switch my Barton and Duron without a hitch...I still choose for the EPOX if it only could do high FSB without modding.......

or maybe someone got somethin I should try again?

uwackme
07-17-2004, 09:25 AM
Did you do any socket mod's? Remember, stuff like Vcore default (war) mods are diff for diff CPU's. Could be the "code" hit an undefined on Morgan?

Massive
07-17-2004, 09:31 AM
Nope...no mod at all...my board still "pure" :D...
Before I try to change with Duron I use Barton mobile with 203x11@1,65v...and I put it off and put the Duron on...I forgot to set the BIOS to default first....I didn't have a change to use the Barton again since it already gone....

Dani
07-18-2004, 09:42 AM
Here is my PiFast33 result with locked Duron 1600 and DFI Lanparty Ultra B, water@25ºC :(

http://muljas2.mine.nu/dani/Tietokone/DFI%20LanParty%20Ultra%20B/DFI%20LanParty%20B%20Duron%201600%20%2025.36%20PiF ast33.gif

Massive
07-19-2004, 08:57 AM
Then it must be my board...
I try it for the second time..it still won't work it won't post to BIOS...
could it be because my OCing BIOS setting with my Barton?
but I already cleared with the jumper...

p4z1f1st
07-22-2004, 05:36 AM
@ Lastviking:

"vcore drop+vcore overcurrent modds will be added soon."

erm.....where are them ? :)

the rest is very nice done :) good job

wez
07-31-2004, 02:03 PM
Anyone know why i cant run whit an higher vcore then 1.7v ?
If i set the vcore over 1.7v the computer wont even boot.

I have flashed the bios whit the 1/21 but still no different.
The mosfets are not getting hot, only ~40 degrees Celcius.

If anyone have a clue what it can be, plz shout, cus it not so fun being stuck whit a vcore at 1.7v :(

SAE
07-31-2004, 02:34 PM
Do you have another cpu to try... tbred or such?

Test it... either it's the board or CPU.

wez
07-31-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by SAE
Do you have another cpu to try... tbred or such?

Test it... either it's the board or CPU.

I only got an extra Duron at the moment, But i doesnt feel so happy about unmounting my vapochill to try out, but maby i have to do it anyways..

Ohh, I doesnt know if it mathers but the cpu can do 2.4ghz at standard vcore totaly stable.

wez
08-01-2004, 06:17 AM
The 06/19 Beta bios fixxed it :D
Running as we speak 1.85vcore, havent tryed higher yet but will do that as soon as possible.

Thx SAE

/wez

SAE
08-01-2004, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by wez
The 06/19 Beta bios fixxed it :D
Running as we speak 1.85vcore, havent tryed higher yet but will do that as soon as possible.

Thx SAE

/wez

Gr8 :D

Blackout
08-05-2004, 11:47 AM
i've a problem.

best bios is 1/21 i've tested a lot of them but every bios same problem.

i have an amd xp-m 2500+ and the LP B

mushkin level 2 BH-5 pc3500 ram 1x512mb stick (ds)

my problem is i can start my pc @ 200 fsb no problems
@ about 220-250 fsb my pc startes and the windows loading screen appears the sound of my HDD is gone the bar goes 3-5 times over and then the pc stop 2 work.

@ ~255-260 the same but the HDD works fine and windows startes normal work and gaming possible

@ 261 fsb also same :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: as problem part #1

Naasar
08-05-2004, 12:04 PM
sniff sniff, its a sad day. doom3 killed my board, i have one on the way for tomorrow delivery and i am gonna return this one....

wow...

i hope the next infinity wont have that dam whistle coming from the mosfets

SAE
08-05-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Naasar
sniff sniff, its a sad day. doom3 killed my board, i have one on the way for tomorrow delivery and i am gonna return this one....

wow...

i hope the next infinity wont have that dam whistle coming from the mosfets

HOW the hell Doom3 could kill your board??? Was the Infinity THIS jumpy ??? :D :lol:

Or was it YOU being nervous about that game, that you kicked your rig accidentally? ;)

Naasar
08-05-2004, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by SAE
HOW the hell Doom3 could kill your board??? Was the Infinity THIS jumpy ??? :D :lol:

Or was it YOU being nervous about that game, that you kicked your rig accidentally? ;)

lol, nay it wasnt doom3. god knows what it was but i was playin for like 4 hours, then it rebooted, and rebooted again during reboot, and again. next thing u know, the led at the bottom of the board lights up but thats it. no boot no nothing....

i didnt mod the chipset voltage but i did run it at 1.9v (bios)

i did take off the northbridge sink, and saw a sort of black paste where it should be white...not as bad as the epox i killed at 2v though...

is the an7 worth it or should i go infinity again?

SAE
08-05-2004, 04:59 PM
The AN7 is like the Infinity... you gotta be lucky to get a good one... if you get such board, it rocks. :)

And this vdd cannot kill your NB... it must have been something else. I ran my old (first) NF7-S 1.1 at 2.8V vdd some time... no harm done. The NB is the last one dying. The feeding transistors are more likely to die.

Naasar
08-05-2004, 05:04 PM
it did have some sign of burn though. the white paste was burned black on the top tip section and bottom tip section

SAE
08-05-2004, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Naasar
it did have some sign of burn though. the white paste was burned black on the top tip section and bottom tip section

Yeah... That's why I was saying: must have been something else that burned the NB. Definately not the vdd... ;)

Naasar
08-05-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by SAE
Yeah... That's why I was saying: must have been something else that burned the NB. Definately not the vdd... ;)

hmm, does the NB feed from the 12v line or 5v?

SAE
08-05-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Naasar
hmm, does the NB feed from the 12v line or 5v?

5V. Vdd is taken from the 5V rail as well as Vdimm :)

I think a part of OVP/OCP has failed and burnt the NB there. Let me guess... Made in China - Infinity?? :D

Naasar
08-05-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by SAE
5V. Vdd is taken from the 5V rail as well as Vdimm :)

I think a part of OVP/OCP has failed and burnt the NB there. Let me guess... Made in China - Infinity?? :D

correct...

SAE
08-06-2004, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Naasar
correct...

:D

Good luck with your next one... hope you get a good Infinity :thumbsup:

Slimmie
08-12-2004, 09:03 PM
Hi guys,

I need some serious help.

My spec's:

Mobile 2600
Infinity mobo
OCZ dual channel 2x512 pc 4200
ATI R9800xt

I had a 230 fsb with the stock bios. This was stable.
But somehow I can't past 200 anymore. It's very unstable. That's very weird because I hit the 230fsb for the very first time. And now not even past the 200. I want to get that 230 fsb again. I also have tried beta and alpha bios with no succes.

What should I do?
Please help me.

Blackout
08-13-2004, 06:23 AM
could someone try this bios

http://black.s3.cybton.com/N24LD138.zip LP B

some new features like shutdowntemp, warn temp,

beta options like 1.5cas, 3.4-3.6vdimm (probably won't work)

1/21 romsip


use at your own risk!
don't use it without bios savior

Naasar
08-13-2004, 08:07 AM
hey guys,

anyone know where i can find out what the lights on my keyboard flashing means? i cant seem to find codes anywhere.

it flashes on for like 1 or 2 secs then goes off. then it repeats this over and over...

i have tried 2 different cpus, different ram:confused:

PORTUGAL
08-13-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Blackout
could someone try this bios

http://black.s3.cybton.com/N24LD138.zip LP B

some new features like shutdowntemp, warn temp,

beta options like 1.5cas, 3.4-3.6vdimm (probably won't work)

1/21 romsip


use at your own risk!
don't use it without bios savior


i tested and 3.4 3.5 and 3.6 only gives 2.6v
cas 1.5 doesnt work with me,seens to be the memory,i try evem at 100mhz fsb and 3.3 vdimm,the board beep beep and only light up led number 3.

so if it is possible to ad more cas values?so 1.95 1.90...and others?

mysticdrew
08-17-2004, 06:34 AM
hmm, what is the SB Vdd mod actually for?

also is there guide on the cap mods? it's hard to see with all that tape

Massive
08-18-2004, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by Massive
Yes...so I guess I won't be able to use my rig for a while until I get my new Barton :( ...
All of the four led indicator is on anyway...but it don't even post to BIOS..
I still think its kinda strange...I guess none of the LP B user use their system with low proc like Duron...so its kinda forgotten on BIOS update...

I'll give u an update until I get my new Barton...if its worked...then it must be the mobo that doesn't compatible with Duron...
On my previous mobo EPOX 8RDA+ this Duron is worked fine...and I switch my Barton and Duron without a hitch...I still choose for the EPOX if it only could do high FSB without modding.......

or maybe someone got somethin I should try again?

Sorry, I try to confirm my previous posting about LP B with 1/31 BIOS won't work with Duron Morgan core...

And YES...it just won't work with Duron morgan core...because when I have my new Barton mobile it doesn't have problem and the comp went perfectly fine...when I try to change it with Duron morgan core again...it won't post to anything not even a single bip...

so maybe this news could be useful for those of u which has LP-B with 1/31 BIOS which considering put Duron MOrgan core on it :D

AlvoMod
08-20-2004, 04:27 PM
anyone can help me.... i need to buy new memoery for my lanparty.
I i dont know how to choose.

the options are.... only in 2x512mb

ocz 3700eb
ocz gold rev2
crucial ballistics ddr400
ocz plat rev2


thanks!!!

Lastviking
08-22-2004, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by AlvoMod
anyone can help me.... i need to buy new memoery for my lanparty.
I i dont know how to choose.

the options are.... only in 2x512mb

ocz 3700eb
ocz gold rev2
crucial ballistics ddr400
ocz plat rev2


thanks!!!

1. Crucial ballistics ddr400
2. Ocz 3700eb

Massive
08-22-2004, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by Lastviking
1. Crucial ballistics ddr400
2. Ocz 3700eb

do u know what chips on the memories above?

3x0
08-26-2004, 12:13 AM
LANPARTY NFII ULTRA B 2004/1/21 BETA BIOS
ive installed this on my mb, and mech did not boot again. what could be the reason? any one got any ideas?

Massive
08-26-2004, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by 3x0
LANPARTY NFII ULTRA B 2004/1/21 BETA BIOS
ive installed this on my mb, and mech did not boot again. what could be the reason? any one got any ideas?

for user with cooling under 0 celcius...better use the 1/31 BIOS...1/21 BIOS turn the hardware sensor protector on in BIOS by default...so sub zero users won't make it with this BIOS...unless before u using sub zero cooling u turn it off the options on the BIOS first...
and with the 1/31 BIOS its already fixed...so 1/31 would be more "subzero" friendly....change the BIOS bro

I hope that would help :D

Bad-Religion
08-27-2004, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by SAE
Yeah. CATs 3.1... those make you loose some frames in nature, but the gains you get in the other tests and the higher graphics clocks make up for it...

I tried 3.2, 3.5, 3.7 and 3.1 were the best.

hey dude i noticed 3.2 its the best after a clean windows install

but i gain like 500pts in 3d01,, but my 3d03 score reduce like 500 pts :( .. any other driver to 3d03?:confused: , im currently at
axp 2800@2.4ghz 230x10.5, 9800p 420\380 , 3dmark01 is like 19.X but 3dmark03 is like 6.3k (lol):stick:

SAE
08-27-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Bad-Religion
hey dude i noticed 3.2 its the best after a clean windows install

but i gain like 500pts in 3d01,, but my 3d03 score reduce like 500 pts :( .. any other driver to 3d03?:confused: , im currently at
axp 2800@2.4ghz 230x10.5, 9800p 420\380 , 3dmark01 is like 19.X but 3dmark03 is like 6.3k (lol):stick:

3.2 is better? What card and what bios (card, brand)?

For 3dm03 there's no better driver than the 4.9beta IMO (DNA 2448 or so using it) :D

stealth17
09-05-2004, 01:58 PM
where are the pics on the very first post?

if you need them hosted i can do that ;)

zeon
09-13-2004, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Hellfire
THE NEW 8KA BIOS!!!

Its been a while since I've released a bios so here goes, many things have been changed in this bios. Also instead of the voltages being set to Auto, I have disabled that to show the real default voltage that the board is booting at. ;) I also set most of the important things for the common overclocker in the bios for you all. The romsip used in this bios is a heavily modified verison of the 1/21 romsip, rebadged to the HF'S MDP RS. Well good luck trying out these bioses.

PLEASE USE THESE BIOSES WITH CAUTION AS I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR BOARDS. :)

Rev1 was used in testing stage by our great bios testers and was further modified for increased performance.

Things included on the 8KA Rev.2 bios are:
- Hellfire's MDP Romsip -- Based off the 1/21 Romsip
- L12 mod built-in
- Cpu Interface Optimised
- Included option to change CPU Warning Tempurature
- Included option to change Shutdown Temperature
- Cured some warm boots problems
- Changed SATA bios from 5.0.39 to 5.1.27 (Modified By Me To Work With Mobo)
- Many Things Set In Bios For Overclockers In Mind ;)
- No more Auto on many Voltage Options, Displays default voltage instead.

Hellfire's 8KA Rev. #2 Bios for Infinity (http://hellfire.enclavenet.com/N24ID619-8KA-REV2.zip)

The mods on the LanParty 8KA Rev.2 bios are:
- Hellfire's MDP Romsip -- Based off the 1/21 Romsip
- L12 mod built-in
- Cpu Interface Optimised
- Included option to change CPU Warning Tempurature
- Included option to change Shutdown Temperature
- Cured some warm boots problems
- Changed SATA bios from 5.0.39 to 5.1.27 (Modified By Me To Work With Mobo)
- Many Things Set In Bios For Overclockers In Mind ;)
- No more Auto on many Voltage Options, Displays default voltage instead.
- Remove Lanparty Boot Logo

Hellfire's 8KA Rev. #2 Bios for LanParty (http://hellfire.enclavenet.com/N24LD619-8KA-REV2.zip)



ENJOY!!!!!!

BTW...
Big Thanks to SAE and Sound98x for testing Rev. 1. :)

Just to update things here ;)

Btw 245x10.5 now primestable :D
Good luck on you guys!

PS: Great work Hellfire ;)

zeon
09-14-2004, 06:10 PM
not good for Doom3 :? back to Rev #3... added an 80mm on mosfets, running now @ 245x10.5 primestable :D

centaur
09-16-2004, 12:41 PM
yeah, that bios rocks :)

i think it's time for more bandwith. it's more stable than the 1/21 what i have before.

e[N]eq
09-21-2004, 02:23 AM
Hey guys!

I have a slight problem, well several actually.

vcore
I did the vcore mod and I did cut the trace as was posted HOWEVER with the trace cut it wouldnt start at all so I resoldered it and was able to boot but now anytime I go above 1.85V the machine hardlocks, any reason why? I didnt do the vsense or vdrop mods but would they have an impact on this?

vdimm
I have 1 stick of 512Mb Corsair XMS 3500CAS2 memory, im able to boot and run memtest86+ at up to 265fsb (CPC ON) (mem voltmodded and runs at 3.6 btw) however I get corruption, 240 seems good but after some ut2k4 it crashes violently. I also have 2x512 Megs of Mushkin lvl2 black which seems ok up to 260 a well (CPC off) I havent tried with these too much since they are stuck in my server but I will try them as well, the weird thing with these is that they wont do the rated 217 with CPC on even.

My vdd is modded as well and I have tried it up to 2.1V but it didnt seems to improve stuff so I dropped it down to the regular.

vgpu
Got a Radeon 9800XT which I have modded mem and gpu on and its clocked at 485/410 I have gone above the 10% spec limit but I might try more after the comp has stabilized.

Anyway, any suggestion? Especially something on the CPU would be helpful! Btw the machine is waterchilled cpu/nort and gpu (the L30 kit) and I score about 7390 3dm03 with a 1700+ clocked at 2.4Ghz.

trodas
09-26-2004, 08:27 AM
Damn, now the pics are gone - hope not for good...? :stick:

BTW, Im now about to start the project of resurection of my old Epox 8RDA+, on witch my capacitors died - since I strongly believe that replacing them make the mobo kick again ;)

So, where do LastViking get the capacitors that he show on the pics? I can find in local shops "normal" ones, but they are hardly to 50C rated (and they exploded under 20min of usage, witch my 8RDA+ experienced "live"). And these the 8RDA+ has are rated at 2200mF 10V T31A and 105C - so I think that about 3300mF at 12-16V and 110 - 115C is desirable.
Any ideas? :rolleyes: :confused:

Fewture
09-28-2004, 10:56 PM
Damn, now the pics are gone - hope not for good...? :stick:

BTW, Im now about to start the project of resurection of my old Epox 8RDA+, on witch my capacitors died - since I strongly believe that replacing them make the mobo kick again ;)

So, where do LastViking get the capacitors that he show on the pics? I can find in local shops "normal" ones, but they are hardly to 50C rated (and they exploded under 20min of usage, witch my 8RDA+ experienced "live"). And these the 8RDA+ has are rated at 2200mF 10V T31A and 105C - so I think that about 3300mF at 12-16V and 110 - 115C is desirable.
Any ideas? :rolleyes: :confused:
Take them from a dead board.

lupacchiotto
09-29-2004, 08:54 AM
can you give me a link for download the "Morpeus Remix Extreme video driverset"?
thank you guys...

sEE
09-30-2004, 03:03 AM
PLEASE HELP!!!

My english is bad.. sorry

I have NFII ULTRA INFINITY and i need up to 2v Vcore

I want modd Vcore, but i dont no how.. :(

In this topic (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31703&page=1&pp=25)
dont show picture on Vcore modd! :( :(

Maybe send me to mail picture and description how to do... laamers@inbox.lv

And what better in BETA BIOS

NFII ULTRA INFINITY 2004/1/21 BETA BIOS
and
NFII ULTRA INFINITY 2004/1/31 BETA BIOS

i have a original DFI BIOS

Thanks! :toast:

SAE
09-30-2004, 02:20 PM
I hope that contributes to the whole Vcore, OCP and vdroop problematic!

:D :toast:

centaur
10-02-2004, 07:07 AM
hey, there is another point for the the vdimm mod on the backside!
why nobody told me that :D

Electroid
10-02-2004, 12:25 PM
Testing vcore mods: SP 1M tested 2.256V - 2.304V (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/modit/DFI%20Ultra%20Infinity/vcoretest_2.gif).

Vcore+Vsense+Vdroop (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/modit/DFI%20Ultra%20Infinity/pwr_modi.jpg).... modded Infinity.

FlyingHamster
10-02-2004, 05:52 PM
lol electroid, 2.3vcore for 2.4ghz. your cpu must have been crying. ;)

lupacchiotto
10-03-2004, 02:05 AM
for you what are the best motherboard's drivers?
i cannot find the morpheus extreme...with google i can't find nothing! :mad:

thanks

centaur
10-03-2004, 04:19 AM
for you what are the best motherboard's drivers?
i cannot find the morpheus extreme...with google i can't find nothing! :mad:

thanks

http://envynews.com/index.php?ID=626

zeon
10-03-2004, 07:21 AM
Testing vcore mods: SP 1M tested 2.256V - 2.304V (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/modit/DFI%20Ultra%20Infinity/vcoretest_2.gif).

Vcore+Vsense+Vdroop (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/modit/DFI%20Ultra%20Infinity/pwr_modi.jpg).... modded Infinity.

How do you do the vcore mod? :toast:

lupacchiotto
10-03-2004, 08:19 AM
http://envynews.com/index.php?ID=626

thank you very much centaur for the link...
i have a doubt...

i have a dfi infinity + amd 2800+ + ati9600pro...i can use "Morpheusware Remix with Abit 4.08 Audio drivers, Extreme Video edition."?
:confused:

SAE
10-03-2004, 02:27 PM
Testing vcore mods: SP 1M tested 2.256V - 2.304V (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/modit/DFI%20Ultra%20Infinity/vcoretest_2.gif).

Vcore+Vsense+Vdroop (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/modit/DFI%20Ultra%20Infinity/pwr_modi.jpg).... modded Infinity.

Hehe. Congrats... I can use that too :D

:thumbsup:

STEvil
10-03-2004, 03:51 PM
Did adding the bypass caps to the back and inside the socket help? I never had a chance to fully test that mod.. :D

SAE
10-04-2004, 02:57 AM
Did adding the bypass caps to the back and inside the socket help? I never had a chance to fully test that mod.. :D


What should it help with? D ;)

Hehe, no caps here, and 2.19V 12.5x260 gaming stable :p:

Dunno, maybe the caps add some stability for prime and pifast :shrug:

lupacchiotto
10-04-2004, 10:09 PM
SAE...the "Morpheusware Remix with Abit 4.08 Audio drivers, Extreme Video edition" (here... http://envynews.com/index.php?ID=626#C )are for the nf2 with ati cards too?
and this drivers are only for winxp or for win2k and win2k3 too?

thank you very much!!! :)

FlyingHamster
10-04-2004, 10:42 PM
SAE...the "Morpheusware Remix with Abit 4.08 Audio drivers, Extreme Video edition" (here... http://envynews.com/index.php?ID=626#C )are for the nf2 with ati cards too?
and this drivers are only for winxp or for win2k and win2k3 too?

thank you very much!!! :)

I used them in win2k and they work fine. not sure bout win2k3 though

lupacchiotto
10-04-2004, 11:05 PM
thanks FlyingHamster... :D

Electroid
10-05-2004, 10:04 AM
Did adding the bypass caps to the back and inside the socket help? I never had a chance to fully test that mod.. :D
Don't know. If the cap mod is helping anything. I think my cpu/mobo combo is going over 3.3G SP 1M stable (with LN2 cooling).

My board still needs more modding. I can't do that isen mod yet, because I ad too big sink to cool fets (with Artic Silver thermal adhesive) :|
And vcore is still jumping up and down (bios, cpu-z).


How do you do the vcore mod?
Normal vcore+vsense mods with 50k vrs (with out vsense vcore was limited to ~2.19V).

SAE
10-05-2004, 02:02 PM
SAE...the "Morpheusware Remix with Abit 4.08 Audio drivers, Extreme Video edition" (here... http://envynews.com/index.php?ID=626#C )are for the nf2 with ati cards too?
and this drivers are only for winxp or for win2k and win2k3 too?

thank you very much!!! :)

Yeah, for all win xp/2k/2k3 versions... and why shouldn't they work with ati cards??? :confused:

They work with all cards, just make sure you dl the version without video driver... :D

lupacchiotto
10-06-2004, 02:21 AM
thanks SAE :D

SAE
10-06-2004, 05:46 AM
thanks SAE :D


No problem :thumbsup:

zeon
10-06-2004, 08:02 AM
Normal vcore+vsense mods with 50k vrs (with out vsense vcore was limited to ~2.19V).

Any pics or instructions on how to do it? :D

Electroid
10-06-2004, 09:02 AM
Any pics or instructions on how to do it? :D
Yep.

Picture here. (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~chedu/teamob/mobo/DFI_ULTRA_INFINITY/ui_vcore_mod.jpg)

SAE
10-06-2004, 01:00 PM
Any pics or instructions on how to do it? :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=551966#post551966

Dunno why you guys don't read the thread before posting...
:stick:

VSense did nothing to me and to many others (all I know of)... Electroid seems to be an exception there.

existz
10-06-2004, 05:09 PM
ok on the cap mod is it better to solder the new ones on the back side to the existing caps or is it better to remove the old caps with bigger ones?? and also use higher uF caps with the same voltages as the stock ones correct?? or use higher volts to?

Electroid
10-06-2004, 08:06 PM
VSense did nothing to me and to many others (all I know of)... Electroid seems to be an exception there.
Let's wait (in this year maybe) and see what happens when cpu is clocked over 3.2G :|.

SAE
10-07-2004, 07:15 AM
Let's wait (in this year maybe) and see what happens when cpu is clocked over 3.2G :|.


Huh? :confused:

zeon
10-07-2004, 08:03 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=551966#post551966

Dunno why you guys don't read the thread before posting...
:stick:

VSense did nothing to me and to many others (all I know of)... Electroid seems to be an exception there.

Sorry :buddies:

SAE
10-07-2004, 02:45 PM
Sorry :buddies:

:D :thumbsup:

TEDY
10-09-2004, 09:26 AM
One question:

I have ABIT NF7-S 2.0 now, while new DFI NF2 ULTRA INFINITY laying down on floor...box etc...

Both are same chipset etc ?

I'm using WINDOWS XP...Can i replace mobo using same hdd , withour fresh install of windows xp ?

i have friend who has done it on windows 2000 , dunno how it works on xp...

SAE
10-09-2004, 01:41 PM
One question:

I have ABIT NF7-S 2.0 now, while new DFI NF2 ULTRA INFINITY laying down on floor...box etc...

Both are same chipset etc ?

I'm using WINDOWS XP...Can i replace mobo using same hdd , withour fresh install of windows xp ?

i have friend who has done it on windows 2000 , dunno how it works on xp...


It should work, logically, but most of the time it DOES NOT work properly. Secure your data, and just try it. There's no other way than trying...

Gluck! :thumbsup:

zeon
10-09-2004, 04:30 PM
Usually I format it, since windows installs different files according to mobo/cpu. That's why I have one partition just for windows, one for swap and the other as backup files :) that way I can format windows without having to backup things up ;)

Good luck!

Massive
10-09-2004, 07:58 PM
One question:

I have ABIT NF7-S 2.0 now, while new DFI NF2 ULTRA INFINITY laying down on floor...box etc...

Both are same chipset etc ?

I'm using WINDOWS XP...Can i replace mobo using same hdd , withour fresh install of windows xp ?

i have friend who has done it on windows 2000 , dunno how it works on xp...

Yes I think you do, because XP would automatically detect your setting while you're already have necessarry driver for nforce2 mobo so you're all set to change it to your other mobo without reinstalling windows again...

TEDY
10-10-2004, 01:30 AM
I guess i'll do fresh install cause i'll be using SATA now as primary hdd hehe....

TEDY
10-10-2004, 07:42 AM
when you made backup what did you guys backup mostly ?

emails/address/irc logs ?

what else.....

centaur
10-11-2004, 07:01 AM
has anybody done this vdimm mod yet?
i think this way is more elegant and works fine. i just searched for another point and found him on the backside :)

zeon
10-11-2004, 03:07 PM
when you made backup what did you guys backup mostly ?

emails/address/irc logs ?

what else.....

whatever I need, work files, movies, mp3 bla bla bla
:rolleyes:

zeon
10-11-2004, 03:08 PM
has anybody done this vdimm mod yet?
i think this way is more elegant and works fine. i just searched for another point and found him on the backside :)
can you please explain in more detail that VDIMM mod? ;)

SAE
10-12-2004, 12:00 AM
has anybody done this vdimm mod yet?
i think this way is more elegant and works fine. i just searched for another point and found him on the backside :)


Looking nice, that thing. :thumbsup:

And not too dangerous for noobs and peeps with some shaky hands ripping everything off the board that's in reach ;)
As it's on the backside of the pcb and not attached to an smd resistor there may not be this much accidents lifting the SMD making the DFI unworkable.

Great job there :D

centaur
10-12-2004, 01:06 AM
can you please explain in more detail that VDIMM mod? ;)

it's the same mod like the "old" http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=395644#post395644
but i solder on the backside instead of the smd-resistor. no more to say, it works great :banana:
but there isn't much soldering iron, so take care.

SAE
10-12-2004, 01:45 AM
but there isn't much soldering iron, so take care.

You mean, there's not much solder? (Loetzinn) :)

But ain't there much solder at the solder joints of the smds either? :D

centaur
10-12-2004, 01:56 AM
ich sollt doch besseres englisch lernen :D

is "tin-solder" the correct word? :p

there isn't much, but enought
if you're good, you can solder new tin-solder on the small cooper-plate

SAE
10-12-2004, 02:59 AM
ich sollt doch besseres englisch lernen :D

is "tin-solder" the correct word? :p

there isn't much, but enought
if you're good, you can solder new tin-solder on the small cooper-plate


Hehe :D

Anyway, thanks for the easy mod :) I like it!

TEDY
10-12-2004, 07:13 AM
Where to enable/disable CPC in BIOS ?

i'm using default bios still...

11/27/03 OFFICIAL

TEDY
10-12-2004, 07:44 AM
wtf weird reading of voltages ?

+---------------+---------------+----------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
| | | | Case | CPU | CPU | VCORE | Core 1 | +3.3 | +5.00 | +12.00 | -12.00 | -5.00 | Fan 1 | Fan 2 | Fan 3 |
+---------------+---------------+----------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:57 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 12° C | 1,28 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 5,00 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,54 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:52 | 1838 MHz | 29° C | 30° C | 10° C | 1,28 V | 1,49 V | 3,20 V | 5,00 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:47 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,26 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,16 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:42 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,28 V | 1,47 V | 3,20 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:37 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,28 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2766 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:32 | 1838 MHz | 29° C | 30° C | 10° C | 1,28 V | 1,49 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,35 V | 0,43 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:27 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 11° C | 1,26 V | 1,49 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,16 V | -12,44 V | 0,54 V | 2766 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:22 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 10° C | 1,30 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:17 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,28 V | 1,47 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,49 V | 2766 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |
| 12.10.2004 | 16:48:12 | 1838 MHz | 30° C | 30° C | 9° C | 1,26 V | 1,49 V | 3,22 V | 4,97 V | 12,10 V | -12,44 V | 0,43 V | 2743 RPM | 0 RPM | 0 RPM |

SAE
10-12-2004, 12:33 PM
Where to enable/disable CPC in BIOS ?

i'm using default bios still...

11/27/03 OFFICIAL


There's no such option in this old bios revision... you should use 6-19 to get that.

Jesus
10-12-2004, 03:30 PM
ich sollt doch besseres englisch lernen :D

is "tin-solder" the correct word? :p

there isn't much, but enought
if you're good, you can solder new tin-solder on the small cooper-plate

Ja soltest du villeicht:D

Yeeehah, now i know what I'm going to when I get that feeling agian...

TEDY
10-12-2004, 03:35 PM
yep SAE fixed that

and MBM5 voltage readings too...only VDD missing hehe

SAE
10-12-2004, 03:43 PM
yep SAE fixed that

and MBM5 voltage readings too...only VDD missing hehe

Great :toast:

FlyingHamster
10-12-2004, 10:31 PM
hey guys, if my games crash, but my comp doesnt freeze, what does that usually mean? do I need more vcore? agp? vdimm???

cuz right now im trying to get 240x11 stable. at 1.975 in bios, 3.2vdimm, 1:1 ratio, 1.6vagp, 66 agp

just thought i'd hear your suggestions. :D

TEDY
10-13-2004, 12:57 PM
have weird system...doesnt work more then 210 at all geeze

was able to "burn in" khx3000/512 today 225mhz memtest cpc on.....etc...

weird weird

TEDY
10-13-2004, 02:50 PM
I can't get anything stable beyond 200!

Fresh new!

Please advice.....

and post your bios timings alpha and etc....wtf am i doing wrong ?

khx3000/512 is in slot 3 dimm 1....

i know it's not memory.....worked 220 easily on nf7-s 2.0

starting to get piss off this dfi....

Massive
10-14-2004, 07:16 AM
try BIOS change...even though you're using newest default BIOS...but sometimes default BIOS won't do u any good for fsb 200 and above...you got to use modded driver...try oscar wu or hell fire one....

TEDY
10-14-2004, 08:42 AM
i'm so scary to flash it...without bios savior :>

FlyingHamster
10-14-2004, 01:15 PM
i'm so scary to flash it...without bios savior :>

c mon, ur on the XTREME systems forums. ;)

but yea, it might not be a good idea to flash w/out the bios savior. I would try HF's 3EG Rev 3 bios. I dont know a single person who had a bad flash with that bios. and its a great one too btw. :D

Massive
10-14-2004, 02:42 PM
i'm so scary to flash it...without bios savior :>

try winflash that comes with your mobo cd...I've done it several times without a single hickup...I'd even change it with the newer and older BIOS forward and back...winflash is very usable just keep in mind before using it...don't overclock your system...try to load "optimal setting" at BIOS bedore you flashed it with winflash...and load it again at the first time you reboot after you flashed...do the reboot again...then you're ready to do some serious OC :)

all of that without bios saviour :D

TEDY
10-16-2004, 05:08 AM
Morpeus Remix Extreme video driverset

seems can't find it :(

Massive
10-16-2004, 07:58 AM
Morpeus Remix Extreme video driverset

seems can't find it :(

I hope this is what you're looking for
All Morpheus driver :
http://www.envynews.com/index.php?ID=626

TEDY
10-16-2004, 08:08 AM
that's it thanks :>

Massive
10-16-2004, 12:55 PM
Sorry if its a little bit late...
I try 1/21 and 1/31 BIOS....
1/21 BIOS do prime95 for 11seconds
1/31 BIOS do prime95 for 2minutes and more (I stopped it since it longer than the 1/21)

I heard that 1/21 use 133Mhz ROM sip table?..how this is possible...does the use of BIOS is very dependent on hardware too???

what's the next update BIOS which use the "exact" same as 1/31 ROMSIP table?

btw for testing I use this spec :
Barton Mobile 2600+ (250x8) at 1,65v (btw at 1,65v its prime stable at 2,4Ghz,so proc won't be the problem)
Corsair PC3500 2x256 BH5@250Mhz@3,3v
Vdd@1,9v
memory timing 2-2-2-11-12-15

TEDY
10-17-2004, 02:49 PM
what's difference between 6/19 and Hellfire's Rev#3 ?

SAE
10-17-2004, 05:42 PM
what's difference between 6/19 and Hellfire's Rev#3 ?

Many code optimizations... and performance-stability-modded romsip tables :D

It's the best one for me. I dunno, he may have changed the sata bios, too.

Remixes
10-18-2004, 10:46 AM
Hello Guys, sorry for the OT... someone knows if ocz ddrbooster work on dfi infinity?

Thanks ;)

SAE
10-18-2004, 12:55 PM
Hello Guys, sorry for the OT... someone knows if ocz ddrbooster work on dfi infinity?

Thanks ;)
No, it won't. The booster works using the 3.3V rail, the DFI NF2U400 boards (Inf./LP B) use the 5V rail.

Remixes
10-18-2004, 01:45 PM
Thanks SAE, you are clearly as always ;)

Compliment for you 30' second in superpi with A32... in these month we will try to get the same result but...12,5X264 is too difficult to keep :D

See you soon

STEvil
10-18-2004, 02:43 PM
It runs from the 5/12 rails SAE.

Remixes
10-18-2004, 11:23 PM
So???? You 're saing that ddrbooster can works on dfi?
dual channel works properly?
Have you try it?
Sorry for the many question but I've just killed one more mainbord :D

TEDY
10-19-2004, 12:16 AM
nope it doesnt work on DFI NF/INF as SAE said...just do vdimm mod on mobo to boost vdimm to 3.6vdimm LOL

Remixes
10-19-2004, 12:41 AM
I'm a dreamer :D
Thx Guys ;)

zeon
10-19-2004, 02:47 AM
Heard about those mixed drivers, but do they ready make any difference, compared to official NVidia ones? Which do you use SAE ? I've always used the officials, since they are constantly updated and never had any trouble with them...

PS: Now testing @ 255x10.5 @ 2.0v... gotta do vdimm mod & vcore mod to see what can I get from this sucker :D

SAE
10-19-2004, 02:49 AM
Thanks SAE, you are clearly as always ;)

Compliment for you 30' second in superpi with A32... in these month we will try to get the same result but...12,5X264 is too difficult to keep :D

See you soon

Thanks. Good luck catching me :D


It runs from the 5/12 rails SAE.

Hehe, that's equal ;)

I meant, it only works with boards using the 3.3V rail for vdimm... :D

STEvil
10-19-2004, 03:00 AM
Yeah, the ones powered from +5 dont like the feedback I guess.

Could disconnect the power supply to the mosfets and they'd work fine I bet... but dont take my word on this ;)

SAE
10-19-2004, 03:10 AM
I am still using the rmx 3.30 extreme without the hdd driver... but with my internet rig I am using the 5.15 package official with ide driver without major probs ;)


Yeah, the ones powered from +5 dont like the feedback I guess.

Could disconnect the power supply to the mosfets and they'd work fine I bet... but dont take my word on this ;)

Hehe.... guys, don't take this guy seriously ;) :p:

STEvil
10-19-2004, 03:20 AM
lol ;)

Remixes
10-19-2004, 05:11 AM
I am still using the rmx 3.30 extreme without the hdd driver:
Where i can find this remix driver forn nf2?
I've always used 2.03 fors system bench and 5.15 for sytem "all days" :D :)

Massive
10-19-2004, 07:43 AM
Where i can find this remix driver forn nf2?
I've always used 2.03 fors system bench and 5.15 for sytem "all days" :D :)

what?? :rolleyes: ...you could still at least see this page first...I gave tedy the link to all morpheus remix, and it still on this page :wave:

Remixes
10-19-2004, 11:34 AM
Sorry Massive :( , now I 've find all I need
Driver, alpha timing setting, mainboard mod and bios ("Hellfire Bios for Infinity Rev#3").
Thx :)

Electroid
10-19-2004, 11:42 AM
My Infinity runs Prime95 @ 260MHz 1h+ (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/screenshotit/prime95/DFI%20UI/Prime95_260FSB_1h.gif), but over 260 it just goes unstable. SP 1M runs sometimes 266MHz, but 8M not even 264MHz.

I dont'n think my mem (Memtest @ 264MHz 1h+ @ 5-2-2-2 (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~chedu/teamob/memtest/memtest86_264.jpg), SP 1M @ 274MHz (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~chedu/teamob/memtest/superpi1m_274_5222.gif)) is limiting FSB.

AXP-M 2500+, L12 mod, Vdd 2.01V (stock sink + 80mm fan), Vdimm 3.6-3.7V @ 11-2-2-2-2-9-12 e-e-f-e 1-3-3-3-3-3-4, Hellfire 1/21 RS rev#3 bios, ACPI enabled

:confused:

SAE
10-19-2004, 01:03 PM
My Infinity runs Prime95 @ 260MHz 1h+ (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/screenshotit/prime95/DFI%20UI/Prime95_260FSB_1h.gif), but over 260 it just goes unstable. SP 1M runs sometimes 266MHz, but 8M not even 264MHz.

I dont'n think my mem (Memtest @ 264MHz 1h+ @ 5-2-2-2 (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~chedu/teamob/memtest/memtest86_264.jpg), SP 1M @ 274MHz (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~chedu/teamob/memtest/superpi1m_274_5222.gif)) is limiting FSB.

AXP-M 2500+, L12 mod, Vdd 2.01V (stock sink + 80mm fan), Vdimm 3.6-3.7V @ 11-2-2-2-2-9-12 e-e-f-e 1-3-3-3-3-3-4, Hellfire 1/21 RS rev#3 bios, ACPI enabled

:confused:
No, that's the board limiting ya! As mine is limiting me... ;)

And if you also noticed the errors in memtest at 266 dualchannel (only a few - but still there), at singlechannel you can increase the clocks alot higher till error appear. NB is maxed, board design is maxed, vregulation is maxed... it's just not made for clocks like ours :D

Massive
10-19-2004, 02:54 PM
My Infinity runs Prime95 @ 260MHz 1h+ (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/screenshotit/prime95/DFI%20UI/Prime95_260FSB_1h.gif), but over 260 it just goes unstable. SP 1M runs sometimes 266MHz, but 8M not even 264MHz.

I dont'n think my mem (Memtest @ 264MHz 1h+ @ 5-2-2-2 (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~chedu/teamob/memtest/memtest86_264.jpg), SP 1M @ 274MHz (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~chedu/teamob/memtest/superpi1m_274_5222.gif)) is limiting FSB.

AXP-M 2500+, L12 mod, Vdd 2.01V (stock sink + 80mm fan), Vdimm 3.6-3.7V @ 11-2-2-2-2-9-12 e-e-f-e 1-3-3-3-3-3-4, Hellfire 1/21 RS rev#3 bios, ACPI enabled

:confused:

damn...such a board you got there...I wish mine could do the same too :rolleyes: ....
I'm curious...you're using Kingston PC2700...did it get very hot using it on that voltage?
have you other BIOS?...maybe it BIOS related too?

and SAE, how did you know that its mobo limited not ram limited?

FlyingHamster
10-19-2004, 08:13 PM
damn...such a board you got there...I wish mine could do the same too :rolleyes: ....
I'm curious...you're using Kingston PC2700...did it get very hot using it on that voltage?
have you other BIOS?...maybe it BIOS related too?

and SAE, how did you know that its mobo limited not ram limited?

I think thats the pc3000 or pc3200. CPU-z just doesnt recognize that ram correctly

SAE
10-20-2004, 07:33 AM
SAE, how did you know that its mobo limited not ram limited?

I did some testing with the sticks in a single config... and they are supposed to run 275 on A64 easily ;) (3.4-3.5V)

Hehe, the single stick that's not causing any errors (up to much higher speeds (270), but does in dual config, definately indicates some kinda board limitation :D

TEDY
10-20-2004, 12:31 PM
how did you made vdimm mod on dfi NF2 ULTRA INFINITY ?

how does it rail after mod ? from 2.9 to 3.6 ?

SAE
10-20-2004, 01:14 PM
how did you made vdimm mod on dfi NF2 ULTRA INFINITY ?

how does it rail after mod ? from 2.9 to 3.6 ?
The common way... Infinity's and LP B's vdimm mod is exactly the same.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26412

Hmm. What do you wanna know about the voltages??? I set the voltage to max in bios (3.3V) and go from there. 3.56V! More is too much for my poor old LP B... it cannot hold the voltage steadily and droops too much. That's what's causing instabilities. And I got the feeling it's already a problem with my current voltage.

zeon
10-20-2004, 03:47 PM
Well, if I'm allowed, I put all the DFI Lanparty Ultra B on my sign... of course, all credits go to the owners of the posts I took them from (can't remember who posted them :eek: )

mysticdrew
10-21-2004, 07:16 AM
instead of sodlering new smd's for the ocp, could you just draw on them with a pencil like the 9800xt vmods?

SAE
10-21-2004, 03:19 PM
instead of sodlering new smd's for the ocp, could you just draw on them with a pencil like the 9800xt vmods?
No. Don't do that. You want to increase resistance, not to lower it. If you lower the resistance there, it would effect the current negatively thus allowing less current to get through the mosfets to the cpu.

mysticdrew
10-26-2004, 10:48 PM
ya duh, i didnt read close enough heh... No electronic stores around here have those smd resistors, so i'll just have to use normal relsistors with 5% var.

bachus_anonym
10-26-2004, 11:18 PM
hey guys, i gotta quick question here....
have u ever seen benchmark-stable FSB of higher than 252 with multis 9.5/10/10.5 ???
the reason i ask is that my so far max stable ( superpi16M-32M, PIFast, 3DMark01 and PCMark04 ) OC would be 259x9 11-2-2 cas2. i can get to Windows at 259FSB with above mentioned multis but Sandra locks and none of the benchmarks are possible to complete.
also i can do 251x11, but i can't do 251x10.5... is there any limitation as there was with NF7-S that Tictac fixed with a BIOS revision?

SAE
10-27-2004, 02:15 AM
hey guys, i gotta quick question here....
have u ever seen benchmark-stable FSB of higher than 252 with multis 9.5/10/10.5 ???
the reason i ask is that my so far max stable ( superpi16M-32M, PIFast, 3DMark01 and PCMark04 ) OC would be 259x9 11-2-2 cas2. i can get to Windows at 259FSB with above mentioned multis but Sandra locks and none of the benchmarks are possible to complete.
also i can do 251x11, but i can't do 251x10.5... is there any limitation as there was with NF7-S that Tictac fixed with a BIOS revision?
Hmm... I am not sure as I always use multipliers higher than 11 ;)

But it may be there's a limitation, 10.5x is said to be the multiplier with the best bandwidth on Tictac's bioses (other modded ones too!?). Maybe that's the problem.

I may try 270x10.5 today ;)

bachus_anonym
10-27-2004, 02:40 AM
thanx SAE,
i wish i could use anything higher that 250 @ multi x11 :p
well, maybe soon something is gonna change in that direction ;)

anyway, at the moment i can pull of set of benches @ 260x9 :thumbsup: but my goal is to get closer to you as far as FSB goes ( at least for now ;) )

SAE
10-27-2004, 03:47 AM
thanx SAE,
i wish i could use anything higher that 250 @ multi x11 :p
well, maybe soon something is gonna change in that direction ;)

anyway, at the moment i can pull of set of benches @ 260x9 :thumbsup: but my goal is to get closer to you as far as FSB goes ( at least for now ;) )
Hmm. Are you using the abit of dfi for these settings/benches??

I am currently doing an 8m superpi at 10.5x269... you mean, the 16/32m are causing the problems??? Erm, maybe there's the link between the highest bandwidth and lowest stability at 10.5x! Could be the chipset.

I'll report back later, commander ;)

bachus_anonym
10-27-2004, 03:56 AM
whoa! i guess i need to look a little bit deeper then...
to be honest with you i just started playing with all those Alpha timmings, Driving Strength, etc and i see some improvements as far as stability goes...
tommorow i'll get to play with 10.5 one more time... if i somehow get 260x10.5 to work then i will be extremely happy camper :)
thanx for your help, master :)

SAE
10-27-2004, 05:25 AM
whoa! i guess i need to look a little bit deeper then...
to be honest with you i just started playing with all those Alpha timmings, Driving Strength, etc and i see some improvements as far as stability goes...
tommorow i'll get to play with 10.5 one more time... if i somehow get 260x10.5 to work then i will be extremely happy camper :)
thanx for your help, master :)

:D

At least the 16m works well at 10.5x269 :)

(slack alpha timings though(alphas for gaming), 11-2-2-2-2.0)

edit. And see the 16M at 11x multiplier :D

zeon
10-27-2004, 09:18 AM
:D

At least the 16m works well at 10.5x269 :)

(slack timings though(alphas for gaming))

edit. And see the 16M at 11x multiplier :D

:banana: :banana: :banana: :slobber: Dude, your sick! :p:

SAE
10-27-2004, 09:46 AM
:banana: :banana: :banana: :slobber: Dude, your sick! :p:


Bah... :bs: ;)

TEDY
10-27-2004, 02:46 PM
how can you guys run DFI NFII INF at 2.0vcore ?

i heard that some mod has to be done ?

something about

DFI LP/Infinity high Vcore fluctuation problem

how can it be detected ?

TEDY
10-27-2004, 02:49 PM
point me to

Vcore,V-DIMM,V-OPC,V-Drop,V-Sense and VDD Mods

what's OPC / DROP and Sense ? LOL

SAE
10-27-2004, 03:17 PM
point me to

Vcore,V-DIMM,V-OPC,V-Drop,V-Sense and VDD Mods

what's OPC / DROP and Sense ? LOL
Please read some pages back in this thread... I attached a pic/description of all the important mods to my post.

OCP is overcurrent protection, generally there's less current flowing through the DFI's mosfets to the cpu than on the abit nf7 for example. The mod corrects that.

VDroop is a mod to smoothen out droops in the current/voltage graph (a dip in the curve) and allows a higher stable vcore with less fluctuation.

Sense does not really make any SENSE :lol: Don't do it- it's useless here.

TEDY
10-27-2004, 03:32 PM
SAE 15 pages to read...ouch

ich habbe keine zeit :P

/me spank my bad deutche uber alless :D

hey magdeburg seems familiar....handball team ? ja wohl

remember game against celje from slovenija LOL

zeon
10-27-2004, 04:26 PM
point me to

Vcore,V-DIMM,V-OPC,V-Drop,V-Sense and VDD Mods

what's OPC / DROP and Sense ? LOL

Have everything you need on my signature :D

SAE
10-28-2004, 05:22 AM
Oh, there's my pic...

Jens
10-29-2004, 03:33 AM
hello dudes i really need a good advise on this one:

hell yes, i'm a complete amateur when it comes to soldering - but i needed the vdimm mod because i got some bh-6 sticks that won't even do 240 11-2-2-2-2.0-9-12 DC stable at 3,3V (3,28V shown in BIOS, 3,36V measured on the board). so i wanted to go for at least 3.5 or 3,6V to see what these poor sticks can do :D

while trying to do the vdimm mod, i accidently unsoldered that small resistor that u have to solder on. yeah i guess i was touching that resistor just a notch too long and then it glued on my soldering iron. oh sh1t!! :D

now i measured the resistor and it says 123k ohms (with some solder left on it)

now my question do you folks think i can rescue the board (and how ??? :slobber: )
what would happen if i tried to run the board without the resistor (probably not much as it wont boot at all i guess) ??

i will ask my dad if he can fix the whole thing for me but its not easy to solder that tiny resistor back in its place you need a very calm hand :rolleyes: so he might not be able to... anyways i hope you can support me with some advice thank you all in advance :)

SAE
10-29-2004, 04:41 AM
Hi Jens.

I often rescued boards like yours... you can either solder wires to the solderpads and place a 200k/150k multiturn cermet pot (25 turns from conrad electonics) inbetween. Or you just solder the SMD back onto the board.

I often worked with SMDs on my boards and the first slot a athlons (cache divider ;) ) - it does not have the perfect machined looks, but works and looks okay :D

bachus_anonym
10-29-2004, 01:25 PM
... my testing continues...

so after playing around with my mobo i might be getting somewhere...
vdd maxed @ 1.90v (1.93v at multimeter), vdimm @ 3.55v... this is max what i can get before either system don't post or sandra hard-locks on me big time: 260x9 or 255x10 or 252x10.5. upping vdimm makes no difference at all.

my question is: did modded vdd (above 2.00v) make any difference to those of you with high (i mean HIGH :) ) FSB speeds, especially at higher multis? i'm about to do it anyway but just wanted to get hand-on experience from, eg. SAE or Electron or others...

thanx guys,

STEvil
10-29-2004, 03:28 PM
Between stock and 1.95v got me nothing. 263fsb @ 3.6v or so was about all my board could do..

bachus_anonym
10-30-2004, 12:02 AM
Between stock and 1.95v got me nothing. 263fsb @ 3.6v or so was about all my board could do..
thanx man! but that's not what i wanted to hear :( here's the thing i just discovered, though... at 258x9 and 1.93vdd (1.9v BIOS) i pass SuperPi32M. but once i lower it to 1.82vdd (1.8v BIOS) it errors out right in the middle. i repeated it twice and got same pattern... so maybe it will get me higher if i mod it :) i'll do it tommorow maybe....

STEvil
10-30-2004, 12:18 AM
I think they need better cooling and a hipro mod of sorts for better/more stable voltage delivery.

The backside of my infities nb was baking.. even after lapping the crap out of it and putting a large copper cpu block on it.

bachus_anonym
10-30-2004, 03:05 AM
ok, maybe i should not be posting that here... but anyway, i'm kind of excited so i will :D
since i'm staying up late tonight i did vdd mod on my Infinity.... 1.90v BIOS gives me 2.09v with a multimeter. and guess what ???
...it booted up just fine @ 261x9 (before it would freeze during POST) and ripped through SuperPi16M like it was butter :banana: so it looks like giving the chipset more juice helps - at least my mainboard :) i'll keep pushing it, especially at higher multis...

so on,

SAE
10-30-2004, 08:22 AM
It does not really help with high fsb at high multis...

So don't be too anxious ;)

/edit. I can use 2.2V with the mod plugged in, but it makes no difference at all.

FlyingHamster
10-30-2004, 09:55 AM
hey SAE, do u have APIC and ACPI disabled? Im at 255x10 prime stable right now with both enabled, and I cant get 250x10.5 stable, so I was wondering whether u think I should try to disable them? think it would help? :rolleyes:

bachus_anonym
10-30-2004, 11:13 AM
It does not really help with high fsb at high multis...

So don't be too anxious ;)

/edit. I can use 2.2V with the mod plugged in, but it makes no difference at all.
so what is yje secret then :) ? what do u think gives you such high FSB at even very high multis? can u tell me ? :)

SAE
10-30-2004, 12:45 PM
hey SAE, do u have APIC and ACPI disabled? Im at 255x10 prime stable right now with both enabled, and I cant get 250x10.5 stable, so I was wondering whether u think I should try to disable them? think it would help? :rolleyes:

I never switch it off as I did not really notice gains disabling it...

I can bench superpi 1m at 12x272 now :D I'd loose to much of 3d performance in 2001 (system dependant, 03 and maybe 05 don't loose this much). So I would not recommend it. The 10.5x multiplier seems to be an unstable choice... bachus got the same problems.


so what is yje secret then :) ? what do u think gives you such high FSB at even very high multis? can u tell me ? :)

Secret?! Hmm. In case there is something like that... my hardware did not reveal it to me ;) IMHO my ram is great, the board's decent too, the mods help a lot, my cpu's great, my cooling too :D

bachus_anonym
10-30-2004, 12:51 PM
SAE... i can't remember if u ever posted list of vmods u did... i assume u got vdimm, vdd, vcore, vdroop... what about SB vdd ? did you do that one, too?
i 'm thinking that 25ish is the board's limit... coz i have 3 kits of 512MB BH-5 here to work with... all of them are doing 260x9 @ 3.65v but non of them will give me 260x10 stable enough in SuperPi32M... so i assume it MUST be the board... anything else i should try ?

thanx

TEDY
10-30-2004, 01:23 PM
yeah SAE tell us :D

SAE
11-01-2004, 09:08 AM
I did:

VDimm
Vdd
Vcore
Vdroop
OCP
And the cap mod the newer boards already have (between the first two ram mosfets)

SB Vdd gains you nothing, at least it did not stabilize things for me with apic enabled. From LORD I know he even had to drop the alpha timings a bit to get a stable system.

So I'd suggest you all: don't do it, it's not worth the hassle...

And the better every mosfet and driver ic is cooled, the faster they can switch - increased stability is what we get ;) Don't forget to place some fans there to cool everything down more quickly.

That's it. :D

stealth17
11-01-2004, 03:10 PM
I did:

VDimm
Vdd
Vcore
Vdroop
OCP
And the cap mod the newer boards already have (between the first two ram mosfets)

SB Vdd gains you nothing, at least it did not stabilize things for me with apic enabled. From LORD I know he even had to drop the alpha timings a bit to get a stable system.

So I'd suggest you all: don't do it, it's not worth the hassle...

And the better every mosfet and driver ic is cooled, the faster they can switch - increased stability is what we get ;) Don't forget to place some fans there to cool everything down more quickly.

That's it. :D

thanks for the info on the south vdd...can you explain the vdrop and OCp to me? like what i need to do and what they do for you?

thanks!!!!

SAE
11-02-2004, 01:21 PM
thanks for the info on the south vdd...can you explain the vdrop and OCp to me? like what i need to do and what they do for you?

thanks!!!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17256

That's a lil guide I did for all those who keep asking me every day ;)

OCP allows more current to get through to the CPU -> more current -> more power (but also thermal power should increase, and it's dangerous indeed)

Vdroop is a mod to avoid or minimize a droop in the vcore supply when the mosfets are switching (IMHO), it's stabilizing the vcore a bit.

TEDY
11-02-2004, 01:55 PM
we should just steals sae's LB.....

ja wohl :P

stealth17
11-02-2004, 03:41 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17256

That's a lil guide I did for all those who keep asking me every day ;)

OCP allows more current to get through to the CPU -> more current -> more power (but also thermal power should increase, and it's dangerous indeed)

Vdroop is a mod to avoid or minimize a droop in the vcore supply when the mosfets are switching (IMHO), it's stabilizing the vcore a bit.

Thanks soo much! i really need that! i have been googling for a droop mod and havent came up with anything yet....the guys over at EOCF didnt even know it was possible!

whats the point of the OCP when doesnt a VR do the same or does it like max out at some point?

and can i use a 10k fixed for the droop? like what would a 5k do over a 10k?

thanks!

STEvil
11-02-2004, 05:09 PM
I used a 1k. I would say use a 2k or 5k.

as to OCP, its best to use fixed since it is very hard to fine tune 3xVR's and if they got bumped....

bachus_anonym
11-02-2004, 05:13 PM
well, so i just did vcore mod... works just fine but unfortunately doesn't help me to use over 2.02v (multimeter). it seems that for some reason i can bench at up to 2.07v but running prime95 causes reboots after about 30sec... when i go back to 2.02v prime has no problems at all...
is there any sort ov OVP mod that will let me overcome this problem?

STEvil
11-02-2004, 05:15 PM
OCP mod

bachus_anonym
11-02-2004, 05:19 PM
but isn't OCP mod different from OVP? i was thinking about it but i would really need to know for sure if that helps as this is far more invasive mod...

STEvil
11-02-2004, 06:49 PM
I havent seen an OVP mod for the lpb/infinity as far as I know... or one that works for that matter.

OCP is the issue usually.

bachus_anonym
11-02-2004, 09:23 PM
i just keep coming with those posts, don't i ? but maybe some would find it usefull one day :)

so, i did "OCP-overcome" mod.... i didn't have any fixed resistors on hand so i used 5k ohm trimmers set at 3k ohm...

i had no reboot after Prime95 was started :banana: as a matter of fact i set 247x10.5=2600MHz which is Prime-stable @ 1.95v but this time i bumped vcore to 2.11v idle. while "Priming" it jumped to 2.14v and pretty much stays there :)

so far i have vdimm, vdd, vcore, vsense (disconnected atm) and ocp mods :)
i'm not sure if i really need vdroop and vsense, though...

greets,

STEvil
11-02-2004, 10:35 PM
should be good ;)

bachus_anonym
11-02-2004, 11:39 PM
for those that need a confirmation that vsense mod might not be neccesary (as SAE mentioned) - check out the attachments...
stable 2.20v LOAD with no vsense mod and where this voltage takes my xp-m 2500+ :banana: "Priming" as we speak...
oddly enough i could bench at this speed with only 2.07v before but never Prime95 stable...

diamonddog
11-03-2004, 01:53 AM
Hi,

last week I bought the ultra infinity board. The change to a NF7 is very big. With the same system I reached 240fsb on the NF7 and now 265fsb. My question is now how can I reach more?

My rig:
Ultra Infinity Hellfire Rev3 bios, Vdd-Vcore-Vmem modded, Vdd@2,2V @-31°C
Vmem@3,7 with bh-5sticks 2x256 mushkin black levelII@ 11-2-2-2
R9800pro@XT 520/410 @-31°C

I found that for me the best alpha settings are AUTO. Everithing other is not so stable. I can run Memtest with 270fsb test#5 without problems @2,5,3,3,11 with windows is crashing. It doesnt matter which timings have the ram windows isnt stable even with lowest timings. So is the NB limiting me or the ram?? Or is it the CPU XP-m mobile2500+ on air? :mad:

thx

SAE
11-03-2004, 05:11 AM
Thanks soo much! i really need that! i have been googling for a droop mod and havent came up with anything yet....the guys over at EOCF didnt even know it was possible!

whats the point of the OCP when doesnt a VR do the same or does it like max out at some point?

and can i use a 10k fixed for the droop? like what would a 5k do over a 10k?

thanks!

Yes, you can use a fixed resistor as well. I am also doing so :) I use a 4.75k metal film resistor.

The lower the resistance, the smaller the droop is.
BUT!!! : You are also decreasing the total vcore voltage doing that. So you'll have to compensate this decrease increasing the vcore through your vcore mod. :D

OCPmod like fixed resistors as STEvil said :) It's safer. (I prefer SMD resistors)

@diamonddog

Hmm. There are many possible causes for this behaviour of your system.

1. APIC
2. instabilities at certain voltage regulation units
3. some kinda over current protection
4. NB quality as well
5. SB
6. noise in the pcb
7. electrostatic/magnetic fields
... and so on

I also cannot figure out everything what's wrong here with my system ;)

I'd like to have 270fsb as well, but I don't wanna try anymore as from 260MHz on with max timings the NB/SB start to freak out... Socket A cannot run stable above that. Sound quits while gaming and so on. Occasional instabilities appear...

So no chance to get a stable 265 with evry device working correctly and sound or lan not dropping.


@bachus

Great job there, pal :thumbsup:

STEvil
11-04-2004, 02:01 AM
I think the parts causing the instabilities are the nb, sb, and that little square chip just under the ram slots that gets so darn hot..

If my board was still working today i'd pelt both chips and put a huge chunk of copper on that square chip just to see what happens :D

diamonddog
11-04-2004, 02:29 AM
thx SAE

the APIC is off. All Mosfets are cooled with heatsinks so far. The SB is not very warm. I can try to cool it with a fan. For all the other things I can nothing for. So I'm on the end of the board I think. What about the CPU? Could it be the CPU? Some CPU's don't like high fsb's or?

mysticdrew
11-06-2004, 02:29 PM
Is there a decent guide to the cap mods anywhere? something better than the picture at the begining of this thread?

SAE
11-07-2004, 04:27 PM
thx SAE

the APIC is off. All Mosfets are cooled with heatsinks so far. The SB is not very warm. I can try to cool it with a fan. For all the other things I can nothing for. So I'm on the end of the board I think. What about the CPU? Could it be the CPU? Some CPU's don't like high fsb's or?
Yeah. It could also be the cpu. I had some that could not clock as high as my best ones, but there 've been always only 3-5MHz of a difference.

TEDY
11-08-2004, 08:52 AM
I was trying 250*9

1.85vcore PRIME error after 30 minutes
1.875vcore PRIME error after 25 minutes
1.90vcore PRIME error after 23 minutes

WHAT IS WRONG ?

1.9 VDD
3.3 VDIMM

memtest#5 5 hours 0 errors !!!

Massive
11-08-2004, 09:42 AM
I was trying 250*9

1.85vcore PRIME error after 30 minutes
1.875vcore PRIME error after 25 minutes
1.90vcore PRIME error after 23 minutes

WHAT IS WRONG ?

1.9 VDD
3.3 VDIMM

memtest#5 5 hours 0 errors !!!

that could be your proc is limiting u...or you mobo isn't capable using 250FSB...
you should try differeny BIOS first...find one that can give u more oc result on fsb

It happens to me...with the default 1/21 my system won't even go on 250Mhz...now using Hellfire 1/21 revision I do Pi on 250 easily..all with the same spec....

TEDY
11-08-2004, 09:54 AM
well see my bios is good enough hehe...i doubt it's proc,eh ? 250*9...memtest worked fine...

Massive
11-08-2004, 01:03 PM
well see my bios is good enough hehe...i doubt it's proc,eh ? 250*9...memtest worked fine...

you should tried try that BIOS thing :)...it'd help you...
I've tried several memories...and one of those is the KHX...on my experience, with KHX, BIOS which use ROMSIP 1/31 would be more ocable than the 1/21...that goes backways on the corsair....but it depend on the mobo of course...

FlyingHamster
11-08-2004, 02:03 PM
1.9vdd is too high for 250x9

Massive
11-08-2004, 03:16 PM
1.9vdd is too high for 250x9

I think is not too high...if it is, how high can we expect with vdd 1,9?...
I see that this board is maxed out at around 260...with standard cooling on vdd

FlyingHamster
11-08-2004, 03:20 PM
well Im just saying.. Im at 256x10 with 1.7vdd. all air cooling..

TEDY
11-08-2004, 03:25 PM
gonna try with 1.7-1.8vdd then hehe

SAE
11-08-2004, 04:43 PM
Why should 1.9V be too high?!

Hmm. :idea: Do you think all the boards/NBs act the same?! No way....

My board always loved the 1.9V setting, in case I set it lower it would not be stable... That's why I did the vdd mod. But the board I had before did not really like high vdds, it only wanted to get 1.6-1.7V, anything higher was unstable. So go figure... :D

STEvil
11-08-2004, 06:08 PM
The only nF2 board i've had that responded to more vdd was my old Epox 8rda+... the a7n8x's might too, but they are pos's so i'm not gonna bother with 'em.. ;)


That said, some do work better with higher vdd for some people, and i'm not sure why... it really is odd.

Maybe I should get an nf7 to play with.

stealth17
11-08-2004, 06:33 PM
can someone show me where i need to measure with a multimeter to see my vcore?

thanks

SAE
11-08-2004, 11:28 PM
can someone show me where i need to measure with a multimeter to see my vcore?

thanks
Scroll up and read again - don't forget to have a look at the pics this time!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18856

That's on the same page (at least for me). bachus shows where to measure...

boblemagnifique
11-10-2004, 04:08 PM
hello , I seek Vmod Vio/vdimm on the NF2 Lan party rev B, somebody would have this vmod? thank you

boblemagnifique
11-10-2004, 05:18 PM
the vdimm is on the 5v , will be necessary that I buy 100k ....

stealth17
11-11-2004, 12:03 PM
Scroll up and read again - don't forget to have a look at the pics this time!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18856

That's on the same page (at least for me). bachus shows where to measure...

oh hehe sorry about that....is that the only place i can measure it though? cause mine is all filled with silicone and has heatsinks on them because i have it condensation proofed.....


how acurate are the software measurements?

thx

SAE
11-11-2004, 03:31 PM
oh hehe sorry about that....is that the only place i can measure it though? cause mine is all filled with silicone and has heatsinks on them because i have it condensation proofed.....


how acurate are the software measurements?

thx
You can also measure the vcore at the upper leg of the right choke, the one we attach the vdroop mod to...

Use the backside solder contact though as the choke leg itself is coated.

The software reading ain't correct - imagine the cheapa$$ parts used for that (iirc uwackme once said that's like 2cents for the reading chip and 4cents for the DAC/ADC ;) )

stealth17
11-11-2004, 06:03 PM
what does a choke do anyways?

when i shutdown the rig, i didnt set the voltages down in the bios....now i did some vmods so should i do a cmos erase before i power up so i dont put too much voltage through something?

is it okay to do all vmods all at once or should i do one at a time so i can tell if something went wrong and pin point it?

let me remind you im also putting sub zero cooling on it all in one tear down....


thanks

saaya
11-14-2004, 01:19 AM
i would do one at a time, thats what i did, for the same reason you mentioned :)

solder, test, increase voltage, test, next mod :D

Electroid
11-15-2004, 08:58 PM
My "new" mobo, 1. run: 275FSB (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/screenshotit/pifast/Dfi%20Ultra%20Infinity/pifast_275FSB.gif), Vdimm, Vsb, L12 mods.

stealth17
11-17-2004, 04:04 PM
My "new" mobo, 1. run: 275FSB (http://www.kanetti.fi/~electroid/screenshotit/pifast/Dfi%20Ultra%20Infinity/pifast_275FSB.gif), Vdimm, Vsb, L12 mods.

i thought the L12 didnt even do anything on a 2500m

STEvil
11-17-2004, 05:31 PM
166 L12 maybe not, 200 L12 maybe.

I tried them, they didnt get me anything extra.

TEDY
11-17-2004, 10:53 PM
L12 on DFI ? HUH ?

SAE
11-18-2004, 01:55 PM
I never regretted doing the L12 mod...

I only know, I once took it out cause OSKAR wanted to test if we still need the L12... and that was horrible. Nothing was stable as before... I had to lower my fsb 20MHz to get a semistable bench!

boblemagnifique
11-24-2004, 03:55 PM
http://membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique/Overclocking/DFI/sandra273.png
http://membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique/Overclocking/DFI/fsb270.png
http://membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique/Overclocking/DFI/fsb266-37s.png

Massive
11-25-2004, 07:26 AM
damn....273 on LP-B....
the hell of Nb cooling you must got there...

FlyingHamster
11-25-2004, 10:37 AM
yea boblemagnifique that is a really nice oc. what mods have u done to the board? what bios are u using?

boblemagnifique
11-25-2004, 11:01 AM
Hello

First of all, it is a lan party rev A, seen on the pcb, but it assembles well level fsb, level vmod, there is that the MOD Vdimm (200k) and in full aircooling (120m on the south, 80mm on North and mofset and Slk 800 on Cpu)

The BH5 is between 3.75v and 3.92v but does not change large thing
(Timmings 2/2/2/2/11/9/12/E/E/F/E)

The bios is LanParty 8KA Rev.2 http://hellfire.enclavenet.com/N24LD619-8KA-REV2.zip

joezxk
12-07-2004, 09:37 PM


到底这块板好不好呀

stealth17
12-08-2004, 05:49 AM
should i get a lanparty A or B?

SAE
12-09-2004, 05:29 PM
There is a marking of rev A on the pcb of the DFI Lanparty Ultra B (NF2U400).... but it only tells ya the revision of the pcb indeed, but the board's still a Lanparty B (B does not mean it's revision B - it's a COMPLETELY different board from Lanparty A -> layout, SATA vs. IDE RAID, ... )

FlyingHamster
12-09-2004, 05:35 PM
SAE- wuts up man :)

was just wondering what kinda scores ur getting with your current setup (new x800). im guessing around 27-28k??

man I wanna see u get an A64 mobo and tweak the shizzle out of it, like you have done with the LP-B. :)

no doubt in my mind... SAE = nf2 king :worship: :up:

peace out man

FH

SAE
12-09-2004, 05:51 PM
SAE- wuts up man :)

was just wondering what kinda scores ur getting with your current setup (new x800). im guessing around 27-28k??

man I wanna see u get an A64 mobo and tweak the shizzle out of it, like you have done with the LP-B. :)

no doubt in my mind... SAE = nf2 king :worship: :up:

peace out man

FH


Hey, my friend :D

I am not benching at the moment ;) But I totally doubt to get a score like 28k! Been facing some stability probs lately playing NFSU2...

I am gonna get me a 939 sytsem in the beginning of 05. Hope it's affordable! (NF4+PCI-Xpress vid card+cpu should be a lot of bucks)

Thanks for your compliments :D

later, SAE :cool:

FlyingHamster
12-09-2004, 06:06 PM
Hey, my friend :D

I am not benching at the moment ;) But I totally doubt to get a score like 28k! Been facing some stability probs lately playing NFSU2...

I am gonna get me a 939 sytsem in the beginning of 05. Hope it's affordable! (NF4+PCI-Xpress vid card+cpu should be a lot of bucks)

Thanks for your compliments :D

later, SAE :cool:

lol well I figured since u got 25.8k with your 9800, the x800 would get around 2k more. you underestimate yourself! ;) :p:

gl with the new rig.. looks like its gonna be shweet

SAE
12-10-2004, 12:07 AM
lol well I figured since u got 25.8k with your 9800, the x800 would get around 2k more. you underestimate yourself! ;) :p:

gl with the new rig.. looks like its gonna be shweet


Hmm. Yeah, of course it could theoretically hit 27k easily, BUT there's no driver supporting the x800 optimized for dx8.1 :(

That's the problem....

The newer drivers suck bad on 3dm01 IMO.

Revv23
12-15-2004, 08:12 PM
ok im upping my nb cooling now (threw a 60mm on the stock nb) im making some ramsinks (gah this sucks spend an hour and im not done with 1st 4...need jigsaw or a var speed dremel) tommorow im getting the pots and i have an old video card in the freezer soon to have its passive sink pulled for mosfet cooling...

btw i had this thing running 255*10.5 prime stable stock on air, 260x10.5 almost prime stable, and now your saying 10.5 wasnt that stable... hehe... im getting exited lol, but maybe these ramsinks will be easier to just buy for $20 then spend 20 hours making them lol, im going to have to use two different hsf's by the time im done. (edit - i want ramsinks because this bh5 did 260 3.3v memtest stable before i pulled the spreaders, not even close without them, so i put them back on and still im not stable, hoping that sinks will fix this hehe

Esox
12-20-2004, 01:57 AM
Hey Guys, hey SAE (originally Magedburg? My Hometown is Bernburg ;) )

Well, i might have a problem with overclocking my CPU via the Lanparty B...

My Hardware:
Lanparty B / Hellfire Rev3
2x 256 Corsair XMS Rev 1.1 Dual (Slot 1 and 3)
AMD XP-M 2600+

OK, the first i did was to set my timings vor the Ram on 2-2-2-11.
I increased the FSB up to 245 with multi on 9.5
VDimm is 3.3V and Chipset is running on 1.9V. VCore is still on auto...

So, the Problem for me... with this settings its impossible to set the multi to 10... even if i increase the Vcore...
The PC is not starting (blackscreen) or it starts and just before loading WinXP Pro SP2 it's restarting again...and so on.

Well, i'm a bit dissapointed of 2330 MHZ :(
I would be pleased for some hints...
I'm new in this field but hey... at one point i have to start a new hobby!? :D

Thx a lot!

SAE
12-20-2004, 02:38 AM
Hey Guys, hey SAE (originally Magedburg? My Hometown is Bernburg ;) )

Well, i might have a problem with overclocking my CPU via the Lanparty B...

My Hardware:
Lanparty B / Hellfire Rev3
2x 256 Corsair XMS Rev 1.1 Dual (Slot 1 and 3)
AMD XP-M 2600+

OK, the first i did was to set my timings vor the Ram on 2-2-2-11.
I increased the FSB up to 245 with multi on 9.5
VDimm is 3.3V and Chipset is running on 1.9V. VCore is still on auto...

So, the Problem for me... with this settings its impossible to set the multi to 10... even if i increase the Vcore...
The PC is not starting (blackscreen) or it starts and just before loading WinXP Pro SP2 it's restarting again...and so on.

Well, i'm a bit dissapointed of 2330 MHZ :(
I would be pleased for some hints...
I'm new in this field but hey... at one point i have to start a new hobby!? :D

Thx a lot!

Hi man :D

No, my origins ain't in Magdeburg, but in Berlin :D I am studying in Magdeburg...

According to your problem, I must admit, it could be caused by many things.

1st What cooling are ya using??
2nd Try to do the L12 mods... I can supply you with a pic when I am at home.
3rd try to use the multiplier 11x. then start at 210 and work your way up. :) (I hope your cooling 's great ;))
4th check your die contact, reapply thermal paste and ensure you only put on a veryvery thin layer.
5th Oh, and the main thing I consider a problem, is you set the vcore to auto... not quite a good move! It means the cpu only gets supplied with 1.45V Vcore, so try to set that manually to 1.75V (don't worry, even with aircooling you can use that). Now try again! :D

Good luck, and report back your results please. :thumbsup:

P.S. Welcome to the sickness, pal :D :toast:

Esox
12-20-2004, 02:53 AM
Salut!

Thx for the quick reply!
My origin is BBG, but working in Potsdam right now :D

Ok, the cooling:

Watercooled, but maybe not so good (about 50 degree without doing anything)

L12 mod: ??? :rolleyes: :D

3rd: i will check this!
4th: i will check this also. i think my waterblock is crap (aquarius 3)
and 5th: the vcore on auto is on 1.55V... and if i increase it seems not to be really stable (1.7 if i set 1.75 for example)

I look foreward when i'm at home!
Many Thx!

SAE
12-20-2004, 03:19 AM
Salut!

Thx for the quick reply!
My origin is BBG, but working in Potsdam right now :D

Ok, the cooling:

Watercooled, but maybe not so good (about 50 degree without doing anything)

L12 mod: ??? :rolleyes: :D

3rd: i will check this!
4th: i will check this also. i think my waterblock is crap (aquarius 3)
and 5th: the vcore on auto is on 1.55V... and if i increase it seems not to be really stable (1.7 if i set 1.75 for example)

I look foreward when i'm at home!
Many Thx!
Hmm, Aquarius is a cheapa$$ kit, huh? :D

L12 mod has the purpose to set default fsb from 133MHz to 166MHz, it gets ya better stability at high fsb and may increase your total possible fsb.

Drop me a pm about it. :)

The Vcore thingy is weird, there has to be a serious problem. Either cpu contact is bad, or cooling's insufficient. (I don't only refer to your cpu cooling, but also to your mosfet cooling and so on...)

Greetz, Stefan

Esox
12-20-2004, 03:43 AM
OK!

I'll look for the contact of the CPU and check the heatsink and afterwards look for Vcorestability...

The L12 mod... i found this big thread here, thx :)
I'll come back to your "PM offer" (plz in german :D :D )

cya!

Marcel

Esox
12-20-2004, 11:37 AM
Hi!

Ok, i did the L12 Mod. Set Multi to 11 and increased the FSB up to 215. More is not possible with Multi on 11. On the other hand, L12 helped to increase FSB from 245 up to 253 with Multi on 9.5...

Increasing the VCore is also not possible. On Auto it's running on 1.53-1.55 and if i increase to 1.65 for example i have around 1.61... :confused:

Looks like a hell of work to be done :D

Marcel

Revv23
12-20-2004, 03:16 PM
im using the hellfire rev3 bios so doesnt that mean i dont need to do the L12 mod?

SAE
12-20-2004, 04:34 PM
Doing the L12 mods in hardware always gets you some better results IMO ;)

So there's not only the romsip tables modified, but also the cpu.

Revv23
12-20-2004, 06:14 PM
hrmmm maybe ill try that out..

*goes to look for L12 thread*

STEvil
12-20-2004, 11:21 PM
50c is way too hot! Heck, i'm running silent air at 2400mhz 1.75v right now and load at 55c with ~28c ambient..

What power supply are you using?

Esox
12-21-2004, 12:51 AM
50c is way too hot! Heck, i'm running silent air at 2400mhz 1.75v right now and load at 55c with ~28c ambient..

What power supply are you using?

Hi,

i'm using Thermaltake Butterfly 480W!

STEvil
12-21-2004, 03:43 AM
should be good enough...

are any of the capacitors near your CPU bent, bulging, or leaking fluid maybe?

Esox
12-21-2004, 04:49 AM
Mhm, i will check this when i'm at home...
Another weird thing is the liquid of the watercooling system. It's getting fewer and fewer, but without leaking somewhere. At least i could nothing detect...

Revv23
12-21-2004, 08:16 AM
ok so whats the best way to unsolder these resistor for the ocp mod, im not new to vmods but ive never had to remove things before...

and a 3k resitor would be ok for the vdroop right? i already have a bunch of 3k's for the ocp mod so as long as i do the vcore mod as well i wont have problem correct?

and also, where tthe heck can i get trimmers >10k locally?? radioshack doesnt have any over 10k and i dont have a CC at the moment...


oh and also, i saw a few pages back people were discussing effectivness of more vdd, going from 1.7 on vdd to 1.9 got me from 250 to 257 and now my ram is limiting hence me modding my board heh...


the stock nb cooler on my mobo when i took it off it was only touchingthe NB on two corners (ahh!) so i lapped it to crap and i put a 60mm fan on it is that enough cooling to experiment with raising VDD or should i just forget about that mod?

thanks everyone :toast:

SAE
12-21-2004, 04:38 PM
@Esox (Hecht :D !?)

Weird thing with your cooling fluid!!! :confused: Dunno where it could go...

@Revv23

I take two solder irons with a very fine tip heating up both ends of the smd at the same time, this way you don't damage anything. Soldering the new one there is the same procedure, but often it IS harder to do ;)

vdroop you can compensate with the vcore mod, that's true. :D

Vdd is recommendable by me, but that's me ;) I use up to 2.2V, and it got me more stability.

Revv23
12-21-2004, 04:45 PM
thanks SAE, i have an old P3 mobo to try that out on, just need to get anoter soldering iron and practice a while.

now all i need to do is find a place to buy VR's locally...

SAE
12-21-2004, 04:55 PM
NP. :)

VRs should be available in several variants... from 10ohm up to 100Mohm or so... I don't get it why you cannot get a hold of them :confused:

Try to get multiturn cermet pots, 25 turns should be fine.

Revv23
12-21-2004, 10:11 PM
most i can get that i know of is radio shack which maxes out at 15 turns and 10k... :(


im looking in phone book now for locall shop though so im praying

Esox
12-21-2004, 11:40 PM
@Esox (Hecht :D !?)


Yeah, that's what i did before! Wanna go fishing...? :D :D

stealth17
12-22-2004, 08:55 AM
i did the old L12 wire trick and i didnt really get any better results. i cant decide iof its my ram or cpu holding me back now. i get 260 and stable and can pass memtest86 at 266 at 9.0 multi but when i boot to windows even at 2.0v aand 3.3vdimm it just locks up. If i bump the multi at 260fsb from 9 to 10 i get like 5000 errors compared to 0 at 260x9....what do you think? or is it my chipset? it loves voltage and im only giving it 1.9 ATM....

SAE
12-22-2004, 12:18 PM
@ Revv23

I hold thumbs for ya.

@ Esox

I like fishing, but over the last years I have not been fishing anymore :(

@Stealth

Could be your vdd, but not very likely. Maybe your ram ics are heating up to intensely.
Try swapping ram banks too. But a vdd mod may help though.

Esox
12-22-2004, 12:32 PM
@ SAE

I also stopped it last year... :rolleyes:

SAE
12-22-2004, 01:24 PM
@ SAE

I also stopped it last year... :rolleyes:
Yeah. Too bad, but sometimes I miss it. For me it's already longer than one year.

FlyingHamster
12-22-2004, 01:58 PM
No.1 Superpi 1M Athlon XP: 30s @12.5x265MHz 11-2-2-2-2.0 w/DFI Lanparty B

maaannn... everytime i see that I drool.

SAE
12-22-2004, 03:11 PM
No.1 Superpi 1M Athlon XP: 30s @12.5x265MHz 11-2-2-2-2.0 w/DFI Lanparty B

maaannn... everytime i see that I drool.
:lol:

Good times that was ;)

stealth17
12-22-2004, 03:34 PM
No.1 Superpi 1M Athlon XP: 30s @12.5x265MHz 11-2-2-2-2.0 w/DFI Lanparty B

maaannn... everytime i see that I drool.

HOLY F*CK! how did you get that?!? thats 3.3g's on a AMD!

Revv23
12-22-2004, 03:50 PM
^with a mach 2 at -63c thats how hehe

SAE
12-22-2004, 03:56 PM
Alotta mods and stuff, cool temps (during a summer night though ;) ) and luck :D

stealth17
12-22-2004, 04:20 PM
Alotta mods and stuff, cool temps (during a summer night though ;) ) and luck :D

so the cooler you go the more you can prolly get outta a proc?

thats just crazy man...i cant even hit 260x9.5 stabily and i have bh-6 2500m and 20c watter cooling....

SAE
12-22-2004, 05:24 PM
so the cooler you go the more you can prolly get outta a proc?

thats just crazy man...i cant even hit 260x9.5 stabily and i have bh-6 2500m and 20c watter cooling....
It also depends on your cpu. If it's not capable, it won't get more capable with lower temps in most cases. Older cpus just cannot clock as high, many newer ones also cannot. So the die quality is an important factor, too.

stealth17
12-22-2004, 08:44 PM
It also depends on your cpu. If it's not capable, it won't get more capable with lower temps in most cases. Older cpus just cannot clock as high, many newer ones also cannot. So the die quality is an important factor, too.


wanna sell me yours? :CTF:

SAE
12-23-2004, 03:46 AM
wanna sell me yours? :CTF:
Where are you? I cannot see you told me a location of yours ;)

In early 2005 I'll definitely go Socket939, so that my system will be for sale :D

stealth17
12-23-2004, 07:32 AM
Where are you? I cannot see you told me a location of yours ;)

In early 2005 I'll definitely go Socket939, so that my system will be for sale :D

oh im in US..... how much you thinking for mobo, proc, and ram?

EDIT: wow i just figured out that if you measure for vcore on that one choke that someone said you can measure from (lemme know if you dont know which im talking about) you get a MUCH more acurate reading. on the mosfet leag it would be atleast +/- .5 with the choke its right on the money and doesnt droop at all!

SAE
12-23-2004, 12:34 PM
oh im in US..... how much you thinking for mobo, proc, and ram?

EDIT: wow i just figured out that if you measure for vcore on that one choke that someone said you can measure from (lemme know if you dont know which im talking about) you get a MUCH more acurate reading. on the mosfet leag it would be atleast +/- .5 with the choke its right on the money and doesnt droop at all!
The choke is the same you attach the vdroop to... :D

I dunno what I can get for my board and proc.... my ram is not for sale, I am eager to test it with my new system ;) (I will maybe get me some VX though - 1GB is a must-have for newer games to get my 1600x1200 res perfectly - reloading textures and sounds at 1600 in HL² suxx)

stealth17
12-23-2004, 02:41 PM
The choke is the same you attach the vdroop to... :D

I dunno what I can get for my board and proc.... my ram is not for sale, I am eager to test it with my new system ;) (I will maybe get me some VX though - 1GB is a must-have for newer games to get my 1600x1200 res perfectly - reloading textures and sounds at 1600 in HL² suxx)

can you just solder the vdroop to the bottom of the chokes leg where it goes into the mobo as it it soldered there anyways? then i wount need a solder pad... what size fixed would you recammend?

SAE
12-23-2004, 04:03 PM
can you just solder the vdroop to the bottom of the chokes leg where it goes into the mobo as it it soldered there anyways? then i wount need a solder pad... what size fixed would you recammend?
I soldered the wire to the bottom of the leg :) But it's hard to do, for me it just did not wanna stick first. I needed some time to get it right, so don't be impatient ;)

I'd recommend a fixed 4.75k as I use.

Revv23
12-23-2004, 07:08 PM
3.54 vdimm to get 264 on rams SAE?

cause im running 258 with 3.3v and im inches away from getting a CC just so i can order these VR's...