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water_cooler 20
03-04-2004, 04:48 PM
Now that water chilling has its own area we should also have a gallery

I'll start with mine
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/watercooler20-DSC00553.JPG

clean looking huh;)

I vaccumed it today so hopefully soon i will have it going
also the compressor on this sys is a 9000 btu Window AC compressor that i got from ebay

afireinside
03-04-2004, 06:14 PM
hey I was gona make this thread :p:
Anyway yea mines a suckey loud over charged big ass window AC :p:
Gona fire it up again when my mag3 for my gaming rig comes monday (stole chillers eheim 1250 :p: ) than I'll start my own... FINALLY!

afireinside
03-04-2004, 06:16 PM
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/afIr3wIthIn/PC120100.JPG
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/afIr3wIthIn/PC120101.JPG

And heres my old rig that killed my nf7s that I was gona kill anyway :p:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/afIr3wIthIn/PC020090.JPG

kommando
03-04-2004, 10:37 PM
Lookin schweet, i might braze mine up soon once ig et some fill gauges etc.

cold_ice
03-05-2004, 11:46 AM
Here is mine:
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/chiller/vorbereitung/5.jpg

http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/chiller/vorbereitung/6.jpg

http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/chiller/mobo/11.jpg

http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/chiller/mobo/16.jpg

http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/chiller/mobo/20.jpg

This was an old fridge,.... and now it´s a waterchiller :D



Here (http://www.extremecooling.net/portal/text.php?id=1&s=read) is a text about it (in german)

jamaljaco
03-05-2004, 11:54 AM
could we get a peek inside your res?

afireinside
03-05-2004, 12:12 PM
I love how its in a case and so well insulated :eek:

jamaljaco
03-05-2004, 12:22 PM
yea I really need to insulate my beer cooler its a few degrees below ambient.

iceman2g
03-05-2004, 02:03 PM
cold_ice what did you use to hold styrafoam together?

Miles_Teg
03-05-2004, 02:20 PM
Hi fellas,

Still working on it, but here's a teaser...

http://members.home.nl/jan.barelds/Miles/Chiller/-24C.jpg

Was just a testrun, no load other then missing lid (and top insulation).

quiksilver87
03-05-2004, 08:25 PM
Well this isnt my rig but i sure hope it was:

http://www.voodoopc.at/

It is waterchilled

afireinside
03-05-2004, 08:40 PM
Thats regular watercooling that they try to make sound special :p:

cold_ice
03-06-2004, 04:08 AM
@afireinside: thx mate :toast:
I have the same PSU ;)

@iceman2g: Did you mean the wodden box for the water? You don´t need anything to hold it together

My chiller is not so powerfull like some chillers here (water temp is -10° to -15°), but it´s enough at the time. And in the next few weeks I´ll biuld a direct die system... :)

kommando
03-06-2004, 04:11 AM
What exactly is that block cold_ice?

cold_ice
03-06-2004, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by kommando
What exactly is that block cold_ice? It´s a selfmade one

Some pics:
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/2/selfmade_wak/weiter/14.jpg

http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/2/selfmade_wak/weiter/15.jpg

With some silicone :D
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/chiller/isolieren/6.jpg

insulated
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/chiller/isolieren/7.jpg

On the mainboard
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/chiller/mobo/15.jpg

kommando
03-06-2004, 04:34 AM
Dude nice, small tubing though.

Çhrist0ph
03-06-2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by quiksilver87
Well this isnt my rig but i sure hope it was:

http://www.voodoopc.at/

It is waterchilled

I wouldnt call that rig "waterchilled", AFAIK, its watercooled , but not with chilled water.

quiksilver87
03-07-2004, 07:48 AM
im not sure about that....Everyone here has told me that...but everyone at voodoopc has told me something else!!!(voodoo forums)!! I know it sounds obvious on who to believe but many people have that Rig and have actually seen that it is liquid chilled!!

i have a question about that....They say that voodoo doesnt want to bring down the temps too low because of the risk of condensation!! Is there any way to avoid this??

Peen
03-07-2004, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by quiksilver87
im not sure about that....Everyone here has told me that...but everyone at voodoopc has told me something else!!!(voodoo forums)!! I know it sounds obvious on who to believe but many people have that Rig and have actually seen that it is liquid chilled!!

i have a question about that....They say that voodoo doesnt want to bring down the temps too low because of the risk of condensation!! Is there any way to avoid this??

You can tell in that link with pics that it is just plain jane'r water cooling. Liquid chilled just sounds better, so thats what their going to put ;)

quiksilver87
03-07-2004, 11:08 AM
Ill try to find better pics....
Btw heres something the president of voodoo said
http://www.voodoopc.com/boards/messages.aspx?topic=23284&forum=1027


And I really dont think that he is lying because millions of magazines have reviewed this rage F:1 ..and are probably sure that it is not watercooling....Say for example computergamingworld magazine rated it as the best gaming pc!

afireinside
03-07-2004, 11:31 AM
I heard in the WC section here its an 80 watt pelt or something :|

Thats just sad. They would have to insulate to prevent condensation.

LutaWicasa
03-07-2004, 11:36 AM
It seems it would be some TEC system...........keeps the coolant at or just above ambient.

If chilled below ambient, insulation and condensation proofing would be needed.

skate2snow
03-07-2004, 01:12 PM
Is DI chiler accepted? If yes i will post someics in like 1 week.

kommando
03-07-2004, 11:39 PM
Is it possible to have a type of waterblock for using it with dry ice.

like dis:
-[ ]-
[ ]
[ ]
[__]

- = barbs
[ ] = container

skate2snow
03-08-2004, 12:39 PM
I dont think so, but my Di chiller will be in a freezer(w/o compressor) and i will put a kind of bug net like 5-10cm over the water and I will put some DI on that. And the DI is -80C, so the water will chill very fast.

And after i will put some DI on my water block(just to bring a little cooler). My DI is free, so i can some anywhere.

quiksilver87
03-09-2004, 02:41 PM
Ill try to find better pics....
Btw heres something the president of voodoo said
http://www.voodoopc.com/boards/mess...3284&forum=1027


And I really dont think that he is lying because millions of magazines have reviewed this rage F:1 ..and are probably sure that it is not watercooling....Say for example computergamingworld magazine rated it as the best gaming pc!

Syzzer
03-10-2004, 09:58 AM
Two months ago, I built my waterchiller from an old fridge. Keeps the water -15 C at load when my Barton is @ 1.7V.

Pics:
http://home.tiscali.nl/syzwarez/pc/images/124_2450_t.jpg (http://home.tiscali.nl/syzwarez/pc/images/124_2450.jpg)
http://home.tiscali.nl/syzwarez/pc/images/125_2509_t.jpg (http://home.tiscali.nl/syzwarez/pc/images/125_2509.jpg)

For more pics and a (Dutch) how-to / information:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/847675

cold_ice
03-10-2004, 12:39 PM
Nice setup :toast:
I´ve also used vaseline for insulating the mainboard ;)

afireinside
03-10-2004, 01:01 PM
The voodoo uses a pelt or something. Its not refrigeration and the temps sure as hell arnt bellow ambiant unless you mean with no load and temps probley blow.
Its not deserving of going here and its not like anyone owns one anyway.

NesQuiK
03-12-2004, 02:46 PM
oh , thats why tehre was vaseline there :P i was thinking sbout smthing elsE :P

cold_ice
03-13-2004, 01:45 AM
lol :D

Gary Lloyd
03-13-2004, 12:23 PM
Your condenser is sideways. The tubes in the condenser need to be horizontal. and the hot gas coming from the compressor needs to enter the top horizontal tube. Gravity is working against you.

water_cooler 20
03-14-2004, 04:15 AM
is the -50C temp the water or the evap
and what gas did u use
Your chiller looks nice and ghetto but its not the looks that count its the temps:D

skate2snow
03-14-2004, 07:01 AM
I dont find any compressor anywhere!!!!!! I had one and ive cut the tubes(to remove the compressor from the freezer) and now i dont know what to do, how to put some gas in back, how to solder the tubes on it again. I hate that!!! I have spend 200$ CND for that freezer and ive just screw that up!!!!!!:mad:

At least i can try a DI chiller that should be better, but when i will not use some DI(coze its not unlimited quantity) I still whant to chill my water!

Can someone help me?!?!?

NesQuiK
03-14-2004, 08:36 AM
pc ice
Xtreme Member


Registered: Oct 2002
Location: south bay
Posts: 949
14
here's the block i used.

pc ice has attached this image




!!!! doesnt plexyglass crack under 0 degreee ?

water_cooler 20
03-14-2004, 08:40 AM
to solder tubes u need a torch and hard solder aka brazing rod
u can get a torch at home depot
u can get 4 types at home depot

1.propane torch- cheap gets the job done but takes a very long time to get the tube to the right temp
2.Mapp torch- little bit more expensive than propane it works alot better than propane and gets the job doine easier
3.mapp/oxygen torch - i use this torch its very good at heating up the pipe and makes the job quick and easy but the oxygen tank only last for 20 min which isn't to long so u will have to replace the oxygen can may times
4.Acetylene/oxygen torch - this is one of the best torch u can get and its the one used by the pros but the price tag is very high like $250 USD and up

The solder used is called DYNAFLOW u can get it at AC or welding shops

afireinside
03-14-2004, 08:43 AM
So if I get a MAPP/oxy torch I can use it with just MAPP gas after the oxy runs out right?

water_cooler 20
03-14-2004, 08:54 AM
the torch doesn't work correctly w/o the oxygen

afireinside
03-14-2004, 09:11 AM
Oh ok :( I'll probley get a MAPP/propane torch than.

afireinside
03-14-2004, 02:17 PM
I think you have those temps backwards ;)

water_cooler 20
03-14-2004, 03:18 PM
yep R404 is some great stuff i wish i had a tank of it but it's too much $$ so i just stick to R22 nice and cheap:D
but R22 isn't that bad i got -40C with my chiller with R22

kommando
03-14-2004, 03:19 PM
-50 SHEESH, can your pump handle that?

kommando
03-14-2004, 08:14 PM
What pumps dude?

afireinside
03-14-2004, 08:17 PM
What kind of liquid mix :slobber:

water_cooler 20
03-15-2004, 04:23 AM
so by adding R290 it lowers the high discharge temp of R22 which will give a all around lower temp
I'm I right:D

skate2snow
03-15-2004, 01:14 PM
THX alot for the torch info water!!!!!!

But how do i put some gas in? and where i can find my gas?

And about how much is a MAPP torch, and how much time it last(if you know that)?

water_cooler 20
03-15-2004, 02:54 PM
If u don't have a EPA lisence then the only gases u can buy R290 which is propane or R134a at an auto shop the propane is colder

to fill the system with gas u need a Gauge Set here is one 1st product on page http://www.rparts.com/Catalog/Tools_&_Equipment/gauge_sets.asp

I think the mapp gas torch is like $40 at homedepot and i'm not sure how long the can lasts

and here is a guide to building a water chiller
http://www.wc101.com/guides/refridgeration/

skate2snow
03-15-2004, 03:30 PM
THX, but where i canget the R290 gas? exept a car shop, i dont love the three car shop we have:).

THX alot:)

afireinside
03-15-2004, 03:49 PM
You can use propane for a torch right? Is a 16oz bottle of brenz0matic torch propane good?

water_cooler 20
03-15-2004, 05:03 PM
The propane torch will get the job done but it harder to use because it takes longer to heat up the pipe so u will have to hold it on the pipe for a little bit before brazing

You can buy R290 at places were grills are sold and in the guide i posted above on the last page it shows how to hook up a propane bottle to the Gauge Set

also rember to be careful because propane is very flamable

afireinside
03-15-2004, 08:10 PM
No I mean torch propane as R290 refrigerant. Or do I need a higher grade? Chilly1 told me that the kind you use in a grill isint pure enough.

water_cooler 20
03-16-2004, 04:12 AM
I figure the propane in the propane torch is probably more pure than the grill propane and may work better

skate2snow
03-16-2004, 04:04 PM
OK, So if i bring it to canadian tire they should be able to do it coze they have gauge sets, propane, and they could solder it.

But is it secure to put some R290 in a 134a compressor? And is the capilary tubes important?

water_cooler 20
03-16-2004, 05:01 PM
If they have the tools than they should probably beable to do it

and u shouldn't have any problems with R290 in the compressor
and the cap tube is very important and if gary was here he would say its the most important:D
i use 4ft of .036 but thats for R22 it might work for u but for a more close to perfect size u might want to ask gary

[SLC]Tachyon
03-16-2004, 05:22 PM
How do you guys vacuum your systems?

skate2snow
03-16-2004, 05:42 PM
gog, oh god, oh god!!!! Ive just cutted right in the middle of my cap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(:(:(. Do you know a local shop that i can get that? And can someone say me what the caps are doing in the life?

And water_cooler20: THX alot for the help man, that was something that greatfully helped me:). Now i know that my compressor can be revived and i will be able to run 24/7 some chilled water:D. My thanks.

water_cooler 20
03-16-2004, 05:50 PM
u could get a cap tube form www.rparts.com

also to vaccum a system u hook up a vaccum pump up to your gauges and gauges to your system than turn on the pump and then open up the high and low side

kommando
03-16-2004, 11:25 PM
You can also use compressors, but im not sure. There is a link in the Vapour Chilling section about it all.

jll
03-18-2004, 07:01 AM
Here's my chiller!!!!

Some pics below!!!!

http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/chiller/13.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/chiller/14.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/chiller/15.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/1b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/2b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/3b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/4b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/5b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/6b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/8b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/9b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/10b.JPG

Best wishs,

Jorge Lopes

afireinside
03-18-2004, 02:08 PM
Rickey already posted them...

kommando
03-19-2004, 12:10 AM
Still looks mad!!

jll
03-20-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by afireinside
Rickey already posted them...

Sorry haven't see it!!! :confused: :confused: :confused:

Thanks for the info!

Have a nice day

Jorge Lopes

skate2snow
03-21-2004, 06:03 AM
hey, Ive just notice something: Its not dangerous usea torch side to a buble of propane????

Miles_Teg
03-21-2004, 11:08 AM
jll,

It seems you have a lill' insulation problem, considering pic 10b... The armaflex used does not seem to provide sufficient insulation to battle condensation forming on it's outside. Nice temps you got there though! Nice 'n ghetto lookin setup too ;)

Gary Lloyd
03-21-2004, 12:16 PM
I agree. That insulation looks very thin. In commercial low temp systems, we use 3/4" wall thickness on all of the pipe insulation. I wouldn't go less than 1/2".

LoudHoward
03-25-2004, 12:13 PM
Here is my aircon

skate2snow
03-25-2004, 05:06 PM
where can I find that for very very very cheap?????

water_cooler 20
03-25-2004, 06:32 PM
ebay probably has some cheap ones

skate2snow
03-26-2004, 05:01 PM
I cant shop on those web shops, only on retailers.....

kommando
03-26-2004, 06:40 PM
I just picked up a huge ass 1m high ac unit from FaTs for free, will play around with it tommorow :)

Fushyuguru
03-28-2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by pc ice
my pump's can handle it and lower...

Wondering what pumps youre using.

kayl
04-29-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by kommando
I just picked up a huge ass 1m high ac unit from FaTs for free, will play around with it tommorow :)

got any pics

oc_nightmare
05-02-2004, 03:14 AM
here's mine:D
http://ocnightmare.no.sapo.pt/PIC00093.jpg
http://ocnightmare.no.sapo.pt/PIC00072.jpg
http://ocnightmare.no.sapo.pt/PIC00090.jpg

Tonic
05-04-2004, 11:56 AM
Nice mixture.. like a blood :D

kayl
05-16-2004, 03:46 PM
here is my latest chillier it got down to -38.4 deg's
over the next week or so i will be fine tunning it with a 130w tec
as a dummy heatload
6 foot of 0.026cap tubing and 20 foot 1/4 OD evap coil gassed with R290
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21618&stc=1

oc_nightmare
05-18-2004, 12:08 PM
kayl how much time does ur chiller have to work to reach that temp? how much liquid do u have in the system?
ocn[]

kayl
05-18-2004, 03:38 PM
i used 5 litres 50/50 anti freeze then topped it up with about 1-2 litres of straight antifreeze, it took about 3 hours to get to this temperature. i have just changed the cap tube from 4 foot of 0.026 cap tube, it use to take 1hr 22 mins to go from room to -30deg, but wouldnt get any colder even after an hour or so. so when im tunning i think i will be shortening that cap tube little by little.

arbiter
05-19-2004, 10:32 AM
http://www.turkishoverclockers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1388

http://arbiter.8m.com/sistemler/S2.jpg
http://arbiter.8m.com/sistemler/S4.jpg
http://arbiter.8m.com/sistemler/S5.jpg
http://arbiter.8m.com/sistemler/S7.jpg
http://arbiter.8m.com/sistemler/S8.jpg
http://arbiter.8m.com/sistemler/S9.jpg

kayl
05-23-2004, 05:04 AM
my latest chillier
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21619&stc=1

kayl
05-23-2004, 05:08 AM
and this is the res
the first run i got -25 deg in 3mins
then i lengthened cap tube and i got to -35deg in 15m mins
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21620&stc=1

kayl
05-23-2004, 05:10 AM
and this is the front view

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21621&stc=1

afireinside
05-23-2004, 05:22 AM
Awesome :slobber:

Howed you make that res/HX whatever? Looks pretty cheap... Will it withstand methanol?

kayl
05-23-2004, 05:33 AM
it's just 20' 1/4 OD copper pipe round around a map gas bottle then placed inside a plastic pipe with end caps.
i think i need to use 3/8" copper pipe for the refrigerant to evaporate properly as the 1/4" is too small. and i think that there might be a restriction in the capillary line. next time i think i will try 0.031" capillary line instead.

there are holes in the top of the res for the coolant mix to circulate through my water block, i just need to fix my water pump connection, at the moment the only way my pump can work is if its submerged cause one of the fittings broke off
when im finished the res can be sealed air tight,
i guess methanol water mix would be ok, just mix so that the end result of mix is just over the full capacity of the system to minimize the amount of flammable material used

afireinside
05-23-2004, 05:42 AM
Thought it was plastic... Da_bit did that and the plastic HX basicley got anniliated by the methanol...

TiN_
05-30-2004, 02:36 PM
Anyone try to chill water with ice from refrigerator for food?
I have no possibility to buy compressor (anyone have one that not neccessary? :rolleyes: ) and only built watercooler for system (but for all components - CPU,VGA,MB,HDD,PSU) complete fanless.
And I want to build a waterchiller

Gary Lloyd
06-03-2004, 01:33 PM
And here is my latest:

http://www.gatecom.com/~tmethod/chill3-a.jpg

http://www.gatecom.com/~tmethod/chill3-b.jpg

And of course it is for sale. :D

oc_nightmare
06-03-2004, 09:04 PM
gary, do u have pics of the inside of it? it looks pretty cool as usual:slobber: ;)

Gary Lloyd
06-04-2004, 06:29 AM
The inside looks just like TECHChiller #2, except the new evap/res is half the size. With each chiller, I am downsizing the evap/res. The intent is to eventually find the optimum size evap/res, and then sell them to people who want to build their own chillers.

Actually, I designed an evap/res that is very small and would rival the plate heat exchanger in efficiency, but it is extremely complex and labor intensive, containing a mixture of both series and parallel circuits, which would make it very expensive. I'm currently working on a design that comes reasonably close, but holds the costs down.

sc00by71
06-05-2004, 04:05 PM
Well time to jump into the fray.
Here is a unit I picked up today to play with.
It has hit -30.1 since I snapped the pic. About 25 min runtime.
Now I need a res.

Gary, Do you build your own reservoirs ? If so out of what ?
I like the all in one aproach and think I have enough room in the case if I build a res as opposed to a cooler. Any pointers would be appreciated. After I get that nailed down then I will tune the charge and see what it will do.

Thanks
Shawn

Gary Lloyd
06-05-2004, 08:26 PM
My evap/res assemblies are all brazed copper. Very strong and very efficient. I will soon be finished testing designs and will be offering them for sale.

blinky
06-14-2004, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by sc00by71
Well time to jump into the fray.
Here is a unit I picked up today to play with.
It has hit -30.1 since I snapped the pic. About 25 min runtime.
Now I need a res.

Gary, Do you build your own reservoirs ? If so out of what ?
I like the all in one aproach and think I have enough room in the case if I build a res as opposed to a cooler. Any pointers would be appreciated. After I get that nailed down then I will tune the charge and see what it will do.

Thanks
Shawn i got the same AC :)
did u have a tough time getting some of the screws out. on mine i had to dremel the head of the screw clean off just to get the covers off

sc00by71
06-15-2004, 06:44 PM
did u have a tough time getting some of the screws out

No I managed to get mine out ok. Having a good screwdriver helps (Snap-on) I wrench for a living so I am used to tight fasteners. I haven't had the time to complete my chiller yet. Too many irons in the fire. :p:
Good luck with your project, hopefully I will have mine done soon.
Shawn

i_jester
08-12-2004, 06:31 PM
Add this to the gallery - I just finished it.

Sears (Kenmore) 5150 btu a/c window unit to begin with.

Unseen
08-14-2004, 06:40 AM
take a look my old chiller... It was a kryotech renegade

Unseen
08-14-2004, 06:41 AM
after 40 minutes...

Unseen
08-14-2004, 06:42 AM
thats all...

OCme
09-02-2004, 03:53 PM
Here's my daily driver

OCme
09-02-2004, 03:56 PM
& 1 in the dark w/ the lights out...

oc_nightmare
09-03-2004, 01:58 PM
OCme any temps and benchies yet?

OCme
09-04-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by oc_nightmare
OCme any temps and benchies yet?


sorry, not yet... still trying to get the os tweaked the way i like it and my other software installed along w/ tuning the chiller to max load...

misteroadster
10-14-2004, 06:41 PM
Here's my Zytrachill :D
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/CHILLON.JPG

tricknasty
10-15-2004, 06:36 AM
Here's my Zytrachill :D
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/CHILLON.JPG

wow nice that things like 4 ft tall~!

Ricarus
10-31-2004, 04:09 AM
It's awesome, but is the res not too big?

OCme
10-31-2004, 04:14 AM
Brrrrr... Looks cool!

Mr.Orange
11-17-2004, 01:34 PM
srry I was on the wrong page to post a new thread, but while im here let me say :slobber: :slobber: at all your creations people :D

iljs
11-24-2004, 04:36 PM
Zytrachill looks superpimp

kayl
12-28-2004, 09:51 AM
that is a really nice chiller ya got there tricknasty

Marvin
01-22-2005, 06:02 PM
my chiller setup.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/Marvin//P1010086.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/Marvin//P1010084.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/Marvin//P1010083.JPG

eR1k
02-02-2005, 08:04 AM
Thats frickin awesome!! great job !!

Unseen
02-21-2005, 04:22 AM
Made for a friend :)

http://www.thelab.gr/attachment.php?s=&postid=179379

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53794

Nazaar
02-21-2005, 06:05 AM
looks like a factory job amigo, nice work

erik9287nl
02-21-2005, 08:19 AM
A time ago i bought this rusty old condensing unit. Perfect for my chiller. I took it apart so i could use the condensor and baseplates for the chiller. The compressor was good enough to use for vacuming the system, the final compressor for the chiller is a 1/5HP Unidad Hermetica (l'Unité Hermetique).

erik9287nl
02-21-2005, 08:21 AM
Lot's of rust needed to be removed, but after one day cleaning and painting this was the result....
A pretty clean unit :)

erik9287nl
02-21-2005, 08:24 AM
Fixed the pipework and vacuum unit :toast:

erik9287nl
02-21-2005, 08:26 AM
Charging with R290 :D I like ice :p:

JSU
02-21-2005, 10:39 AM
nice job! that prolly cost you clsoe to nothing. good job :D

erik9287nl
02-21-2005, 11:02 AM
nice job! that prolly cost you clsoe to nothing. good job :D
I didn't really "buy" the condensing unit. Just brougt some kilograms of old copper tubing to the scrapyard, and i could take the unit away :p: . The other compressor was about $ 7 or something :D
Then just pipework, dryer, paint, gas and the standard two way manifold. Nah, didn't cost me that much, i think about $ 100 totally. But there are many fixed costs like the manifold and pipework, you can use them again :D And offcourse the other standard materials like pipe cutters and other equipment, but that's some stuff i allready have for years :toast:

Marvin
03-15-2005, 12:30 PM
Almost finishing mine :
http://premium1.uploadit.org/Marvin//P1010032.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/Marvin//P1010015.JPG
time to insulate the board. :D

THE JEW (RaVeN)
03-22-2005, 04:06 PM
Nice wrappage around the block. How did you get it to look so "clean?"

Marvin
03-22-2005, 06:34 PM
The insulation of the block was made by a friend :) . It still condensing on the top, maybe because it is make from aluminium.

REDKEN
03-23-2005, 03:53 AM
Very nice guys!
I'm looking into building a chiller now since I have outgrown my Water setup.:)

I wanted a small/compact chiller I could fit inside my case. Is there something like that I could do?
From what I see here the chillers you guys use are HUGE!!

echow87
03-24-2005, 08:24 AM
you can definately fit a chiller in a case, with a tiny compressor such as a bd35. bd50 (these compressor can fit in the 5.25" drive bay (takes up 4 bays)

REDKEN
03-24-2005, 08:34 AM
you can definately fit a chiller in a case, with a tiny compressor such as a bd35. bd50 (these compressor can fit in the 5.25" drive bay (takes up 4 bays)
How effective is that? What temps can be reached with that setup?

erik9287nl
04-05-2005, 01:15 PM
Sure it's possible. I'm currently making a chiller in a case (Yeong-Yang cube).

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0160.jpg

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0162.jpg

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0164.jpg

Its hard to make it fit, but with some consessions (just one optical drive and one or two harddisks) it's possible, but still hard.

Marvin
04-05-2005, 04:49 PM
you will need to fit the reservoir too.

Vandread
04-06-2005, 08:53 AM
you will need to fit the reservoir too.
Why?

Crazy dutch people try to build anything these days :slap: ;)

samuknow
04-29-2005, 08:40 PM
Here is a quick preview of what I have. I will be cleaning it up this weekend. I will post more pics.

It basically case a water jacket design around the evap....

smegz
05-09-2005, 02:35 PM
Sure it's possible. I'm currently making a chiller in a case (Yeong-Yang cube).

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0160.jpg

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0162.jpg

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0164.jpg

Its hard to make it fit, but with some consessions (just one optical drive and one or two harddisks) it's possible, but still hard.
That probably would be a little easier with a full tower case. At least give you room for more drives and maybe better routing for the lines.

Frostologe
05-17-2005, 03:53 AM
Sure it's possible. I'm currently making a chiller in a case (Yeong-Yang cube).

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0160.jpg

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0162.jpg

http://home.hetnet.nl/~erik9287nl/got/IMG_0164.jpg

Its hard to make it fit, but with some consessions (just one optical drive and one or two harddisks) it's possible, but still hard.

Pretty nice project. I like Yeong Yang cubes. Hope you get it working.

Athens[2004]
06-02-2005, 09:26 AM
My first chiller .

http://img68.echo.cx/img68/6527/chiller15ik.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img68.echo.cx/img68/2235/chiller26iz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img68.echo.cx/img68/196/chiller37pk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img234.echo.cx/img234/7051/200ul.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us) .

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64299

maxwedge
06-22-2005, 04:58 PM
I just built my 1st chiller but it's not quite as extreme as you guy's...not yet. :toast: Mine is remotely set up in the garage and it pumps the water about 20 feet to my box. Nice and quiet that way and the heat it puts out doesn't heat up my room. :)

I run it 24/7 at 2 temps...1) fairly warm while I'm at work at 60f (16c) and 2) 32f (0c) when testing. I'm working on 2 overclocks to go with those temps now.

I'd run it much colder but I don't feel like having my DD NV68 water block crack, lol! :caution:

G4h4o8s6T
07-27-2005, 06:40 AM
So impressed by all your chillers guys.......and very jealous! :) I havnt even got my water cooling system together yet, so it will be a while till I fab up a chiller, but when I get to it.....I know Ill be comming to you guys for help! Keep up the good work! :)

LRV
08-12-2005, 06:56 AM
Athens, NICE setup ;)

eBoy0
08-12-2005, 02:22 PM
Kinda messy :) but it works!
Got down to -41c antifreeze/prestone de-icer combo w/ 10 bottles of hydrx.
Load is -19c @ 3.32 1.68v on my 3700+ sandy.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/eBoy0/P7080149.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/eBoy0/P7080148.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/eBoy0/P7210187.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/eBoy0/P7200178.jpg

Going to add the 7800gtx into the loop ;) and maybe do some wire management once my new mobo gets here.

Athens[2004]
08-29-2005, 10:03 PM
Athens, NICE setup ;)

Thnx a lot my friend . :)

Turtle 1
10-10-2005, 09:55 AM
Very cool stuff. I have plain water cooling . But I had a thought (fant) if I was to add this into my loop after the rad. http://www.jegs.com/photos/71097817.jpg

I believe it would be very cool on regular ice and extremely cool with dry ice.
I just ordered 1 $100. I will try it . Notice it has a drain for easy water disposal. and its well insulated. looks good.
Please all comments helpful. :spam:

Forgot to mention its a moroso cool can for drag racing. So I will be adding High performance racing stuff to my PC :woot: Now how cool is that?

RussC
10-11-2005, 10:02 PM
Nice unit for cooling resevoir. Can work well. A little pricey, but a nice unit.

RussC


Very cool stuff. I have plain water cooling . But I had a thought (fant) if I was to add this into my loop after the rad. http://www.jegs.com/photos/71097817.jpg

I believe it would be very cool on regular ice and extremely cool with dry ice.
I just ordered 1 $100. I will try it . Notice it has a drain for easy water disposal. and its well insulated. looks good.
Please all comments helpful. :spam:

Forgot to mention its a moroso cool can for drag racing. So I will be adding High performance racing stuff to my PC :woot: Now how cool is that?

Kant
10-12-2005, 11:00 AM
My chiller, by Tyrou :D

http://k4nt.free.fr/images/OC/preview.JPG
http://k4nt.free.fr/images/OC/LLchill2.JPG
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/5407/img07257sh.jpg

Athens[2004]
10-12-2005, 11:28 AM
Νιce :) temps ? [or the link of the thread if u have with it]

Kant
10-12-2005, 11:36 AM
I don't have wbs yet... So I can't test it in real condition.

The thread is here (http://www.cooling-masters.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3046) (In french :) )

RussC
10-13-2005, 11:08 PM
I don't have wbs yet... So I can't test it in real condition.

The thread is here (http://www.cooling-masters.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3046) (In french :) )

Thats friggin nice :toast: Thats a custom made computer box, right :confused:

RussC

Kant
10-14-2005, 03:34 AM
Not really :D This is a Lian Li V2000 ;)

cool_dude
10-15-2005, 09:43 AM
Like em guys!

Especially like yours Athens04 :D

piotres
10-21-2005, 03:22 PM
My simple ChilleR22 ...chiller with 1/6 HP compressor with R22 :)

http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/piotres1/chiller/12.jpg

The unit has been sold already - it'll cool a 3000+ Venice and 7800 gtx :cool:

OCboy
11-20-2005, 04:26 AM
I personaly have just finished a cooler in witch U put ice and some chemicals to get around -56.The question for U is what kind of liquid do I need to be chilled at that temperature and still hace a good flow.(will simple car antifrost solution do the job?)

SustaiN
11-20-2005, 12:28 PM
Piotres, that's an awesome chiller. I think I'll build one similar someday when I get my tools ;)

johann
11-25-2005, 06:12 AM
Hi, here is my 1st chiller, it turned out quite nice. Uses 2 x Tecumseh 1/10hp compressors, R404a and is compact at 14"x14"x12" basically 1 square foot.

Temps with 185watt load is liquid around -7c to -12c and CPU -2c to 3c. I suspect with a good pump and suitable liquid, temps can be even lower.

http://brown.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/chiller1/chiller1running.jpg

http://brown.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/chiller1/chillergrills.jpg

unloaded:

http://brown.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/chiller1/chillerunloaded.jpg

loaded:

http://brown.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/chiller1/chillerloaded.jpg

drcooling.cl
12-23-2005, 06:34 AM
It consisted of which in a bucket we put a radiator submerged in alcohol with dry ice
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6474/hielosecosym0539qh.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7885/hielosecosym0438zm.jpg
http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5521/6665nr.jpg
The alcohol inside hoses travels to -60°C
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3618/hielosecosym0401kj.jpg
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/1179/hielosecosym0508nt.jpg
Cpu Waterblock
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9656/hielosecosym0374ox.jpg
Chipset Waterblock
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/1796/hielosecosym0386uk.jpg
Vga Waterblock
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/9277/hielosecosym0513pd.jpg

And the next step:

Ram Waterblock
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/7056/cnc0159wj.jpg

RussC
12-23-2005, 11:13 AM
dam, thats some serious icing, very cold though.

RussC

ent
12-24-2005, 05:27 AM
:slobber: sick :D

drcooling.cl
12-24-2005, 08:04 PM
Moore pictures here http://www.drcooling.cl/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=22

Raller
12-27-2005, 05:32 AM
drcooling.cl ... Let it snow , let it snow , let it snow ... :D

Nice work there !!

drcooling.cl
12-27-2005, 01:41 PM
Thanks :D

Gautam
12-27-2005, 02:33 PM
Wow :slobber: ...cannot come close to that, but here's my first attempt.

http://home.comcast.net/~gautamb/overall.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~gautamb/mcw50.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~gautamb/mcw6002.JPG

before
01-07-2006, 10:09 AM
It's a nice chiller Gautam :toast:

before
01-07-2006, 10:23 AM
Some pics of mine by Tyrou :worship: More here (http://www.beforeoverclock.com/a/forum_viewtopic.php?14.11)

Specs:

- Compressor 1/4HP
- Pecomark condenser
- HX tube inside tube
- Thermostat (-30°C to +30°C)
- R402A

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/IMG_0150.jpg

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/IMG_0168.jpg

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/IMG_0174.jpg

Unseen
01-07-2006, 10:57 AM
Wow..Very nice :) I think the condeser is a bit small for a chiller. Test it and tell us. :)

before
01-07-2006, 11:42 PM
Wow..Very nice :) I think the condeser is a bit small for a chiller. Test it and tell us. :)

Knowing Tyrou's (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=11170) reputation I am not really afraid about that... anyway, I will share some more pics and results with you. :D

Unseen
01-08-2006, 02:05 AM
Yeah i know tyrou is one of the best. I told u that from my experience in chillers.
Anyway Good Luck. Enjoy your chiller.

before
01-08-2006, 02:15 AM
Thx mate! :)

theopetro
01-24-2006, 07:23 AM
i threw ice in my res once does that count? lol.

seriously tho guys those setups are awesome. my next project is gonna include one of these. its gonna need to be quiet as heck tho and portable. also its going to be all one case. comp and chiller. i think ill just build a whole new case from scratch.

good job tho guys keep it up.

The Byter
01-31-2006, 02:02 PM
EMP - K3 first prototype
-50C~ @ the coil

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2617/picture018s4ft.jpg

chew*
01-31-2006, 03:04 PM
Hmm seems like your temps may be inacurate.......the bottom of the coil isn't even frosted........Anyway this picture doesnt do it justice and is old. Ive cleaned up the insualtion and wiring since then and it looks a lot neater. 1 hour of pull down with a 1 1/2 gallon res \/ think the temp is wrong also propylene glycol froze when it was -40F. The antifreeze i used claimed -50F

http://members.cox.net/wmdieselmc26/chiller%201

The Byter
01-31-2006, 03:43 PM
in the pic u see it turned off...

chew*
01-31-2006, 03:46 PM
in the pic u see it turned off...

Ahh ok. was gonna say if the bottom of coil can't beat ambient temps and freeze......................

before
02-09-2006, 03:18 AM
Some more pics of mine :rolleyes:

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/P1010577.jpg

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/P1010582.jpg

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/P1010585.jpg

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/P1010593.jpg

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/P1010596.jpg

M.Beier
02-09-2006, 02:48 PM
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/1845/pict00182oh.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2231/pict00173xu.jpg

Thats all people :)
I havnt made the chiller mysefl though :) - made by Rodondon

before
02-10-2006, 01:19 AM
What an insulation! :D Nicely done mate!

before
02-15-2006, 02:48 AM
WB by skirms and polished by myself :D

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/WBskirms1.jpg
http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/WBskirms2.jpg

Action! :)

http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/WBskirms3.jpg
http://www.beforeoverclock.com/images/WBskirms4.jpg

M.Beier
02-15-2006, 04:01 AM
Nice stuff :)

before
02-15-2006, 02:42 PM
Thx mate! ;)

SexyMF
02-15-2006, 09:25 PM
Mostly finished. Didn't have a camera for the unit when it was attached to the computer

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Unxious/Overview800.jpg

166x11 = 1826Mhz with -27C coolant

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Unxious/-27Coolant166x111.jpg

Jonathan_S
02-28-2006, 02:14 PM
I made a thread but here is a couple of pics.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2628/almostdone8xa.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/941/ctemp7gu.jpg

Almost complete need a couple minor tweaks.
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8693/coolerfinshed14qz.jpg

I have a real small pump right now. I have a bigger one on order should be here this week but I have my 333fsb 3000+ (2166MHz) running at 400fsb giving me a clean 2600mhz. I haven't pushed the limits on this yet I will once my new pump going. Right now the system is rock solid stable at 400fsb. My CPU temps are off from what they are actually are. I put a layer insulating tape under my CPU in the open square, I am sure that is where the motherboards temp sensor is. anyway here is a screen shot of 2600mhz.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8593/400mhzfsb9ne.jpg

ingentingmendeg
03-05-2006, 09:46 AM
nice clean setups guys.

Sc4mpi
04-07-2006, 02:47 PM
my mach modded chiller

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/cooler1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/chillertest.jpg

First ghetto rig up

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/PICT0111.jpg

case sides on.

Got another pc-07 on the way that needs to have a trim ;) to match the top.

Its holding water at 15c so its nicly above the dew point so dont haft to insulate :)

@_dud
04-13-2006, 08:32 AM
nice stuff. Making me jealous. :D

Sc4mpi
04-13-2006, 11:18 AM
all kitted up and working. need to adjust the bolts to get both of them perfectly lined up but for now its good enough :) (need to give it a polish to remove the finger prints :P)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Sc4mpi/PICT0029.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Sc4mpi/PICT0033.jpg

Turtle 1
05-21-2006, 09:15 PM
Bump Repost

ineedaname
05-28-2006, 10:50 PM
Hey guys i'm an utter newbie but as a half fast suggestion maybe u guys should try submerging your entire motherboard in non conductive liquid so it won't condense. Like submerge everything in a large cooler and have everything connected to wires leading out of a hole in the cooler. I know they sell non conductive liquid or maybe even oil will work.

Nefilav
05-28-2006, 11:37 PM
Then the fluid would itself need to be sealed off to prevent it from being contaminated and therefore conductive and the fluid is 700$ a gallon and makes plastics fragile. A few hours of careful work and 10$ of neoprene insulation is simple and can be tested in a less scary way then firing up your board and seeing if its not fried while its in a tank of the worlds most expensive liquid. Everyone does the foam forts on the CPU+GPU for a reason.

Theres also this, had a nasty accident with my case and a mug of tea; typing this message out on the same rig that got soaked. Its 30$ a can and is enough for more then 1 mobo even double coated on both sides.
http://www.mgchemicals.com/images/product/419B.GIF

Maybe I can add my butt ugly AC chiller to this thread once I am done.
edit:Just saw Sc4mpi's rig and it is amazing...does it consistently stay above dew point?

k0nsl
05-28-2006, 11:46 PM
Very nice and clean, Sc4mpi.
-k0nsl

Sc4mpi
05-28-2006, 11:56 PM
edit:Just saw Sc4mpi's rig and it is amazing...does it consistently stay above dew point?

That is does :)

epox4life
05-29-2006, 09:27 AM
These are some really nice, powerful water chillers.
I need an AC unit my water dispenser chiller I just modified only goes to about -2C no load.

couppi
06-25-2006, 08:01 PM
Hey guys i'm an utter newbie but as a half fast suggestion maybe u guys should try submerging your entire motherboard in non conductive liquid so it won't condense. Like submerge everything in a large cooler and have everything connected to wires leading out of a hole in the cooler. I know they sell non conductive liquid or maybe even oil will work.
I think there are some supercomputers that do that...

Nagaru
06-25-2006, 08:10 PM
Tom's Hardware did something similar althought they weren't going for performace, but silence. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/09/strip_out_the_fans/

Modzilla
01-24-2007, 06:15 PM
A/C Chiller. This project has been put on hold. This is as far as I got with it.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/DSCN0121.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/DSCN0049.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/DSCN0108.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/DSCN0098.jpg

ruffus
04-28-2007, 02:41 PM
can some one tell me what to use as coolant can i just use car antifreeze or will that eat away my hose or water pump and if so can i use it straight or do i have to mix it with water

Flow
05-06-2007, 02:51 AM
Here are pics of mine ... it isn't already ready

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7880/dscn6021rg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1514/dscn6022ch8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2916/dscn6023ob7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9284/dscn6024cr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/30/dscn6025nl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4946/dscn6026cu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

N3RO
05-06-2007, 04:45 AM
Our chiller made by Ricky ;) [Zé do Bench Team]

YouTube Movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNBOq4pvLUw

http://www.zedobench.com/projectos/cooling/Chiller/1.jpg

http://www.zedobench.com/projectos/cooling/Chiller/2.jpg

http://www.zedobench.com/projectos/cooling/Chiller/3.jpg

http://www.zedobench.com/projectos/cooling/Chiller/4.jpg

Overclocking.... or not! :D

http://www.zedobench.com/projectos/cooling/Chiller/5.jpg

..

Just one question: what waterpumps do you use with your waterchillers?

Flow
05-06-2007, 05:10 AM
I'm using Laing DDC+ ...

N3RO
05-06-2007, 05:30 AM
I'm using Laing DDC+ ...
Any issue with low temps?

what do you use? water or methanol?

[]s

Flow
05-06-2007, 05:52 AM
I use water ... but the chiller chills the water only down to 10°C

AliG
05-06-2007, 06:32 PM
well, what did you expect, waterchillers aren't designed to take the water to below 0c because of condensation for one thing, and the whole freezing point thing as another. If you want to go below 0, you'll have to either use soemthing crazy like liquid nitrogen and use copper tubing instead of plastic to prevent extreme condensation from happening. That's why many people use phae changes instead for extreme cooling, that, or if you know the problems with tec and how to combat them, you could try that out instead and that should get you below 0, but as long as you are getting good cpu:water temps, I wouldn't worry about it

n00b 0f l337
05-06-2007, 06:38 PM
AliG i suggest you use more reading, and actally look thru the rest of the chiller gallery.

Starkiller42
05-06-2007, 07:04 PM
waterchillers aren't designed to take the water to below 0c because of condensation for one thing, and the whole freezing point thing as another.

I must most strenuously disagree, good sir! Water chillers are, more often than not, intended to operate at temperatures well below 0*C. Yes, additives are needed in the coolant, and yes, insulation is a concern, but a chiller can be a very effective way to reach cold temps on multiple components, ie a CPU and a GPU. I myself am in the process of assembling parts for a chiller that will sustain a 400 watt load (CPU+GPU+NB) at -30*C, or colder. I'd like to see a direct die unit try that! ;)

Cronos
05-06-2007, 08:51 PM
I myself am in the process of assembling parts for a chiller that will sustain a 400 watt load (CPU+GPU+NB) at -30*C, or colder. I'd like to see a direct die unit try that! ;)

And i want to cool dual Quad-core Xeon machine -2CPUs + chipset. Plus i want to isolate MB compartment and chill the air inside, to avoid condensation. 500-600W total.
The goal is to reach -70C or lower :)

serialk11r
05-06-2007, 09:27 PM
And i want to cool dual Quad-core Xeon machine -2CPUs + chipset. Plus i want to isolate MB compartment and chill the air inside, to avoid condensation. 500-600W total.
The goal is to reach -70C or lower :)

Whoa damn that is going to take a LOT of electricity.

Cronos
05-06-2007, 09:36 PM
Whoa damn that is going to take a LOT of electricity.

Thats why i want highest efficiency possible.
So, no captubes and no ridiculously small condensers. Best efficiency compressors.

Starkiller42
05-07-2007, 10:28 AM
Cronos, are you the mystery customer for Drewmiester's new 3/4hp chiller over at EOCF?

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=258500

It sounds eerily familiar...

Xeon th MG Pony
05-07-2007, 02:16 PM
-70 is a waste of energy for a large unit IMO For such a server system you will get good efficiency at 0C for a given capacity

[XC] mysticmerlin
05-08-2007, 12:58 AM
well, what did you expect, waterchillers aren't designed to take the water to below 0c because of condensation for one thing, and the whole freezing point thing as another. If you want to go below 0, you'll have to either use soemthing crazy like liquid nitrogen and use copper tubing instead of plastic to prevent extreme condensation from happening. That's why many people use phae changes instead for extreme cooling, that, or if you know the problems with tec and how to combat them, you could try that out instead and that should get you below 0, but as long as you are getting good cpu:water temps, I wouldn't worry about it

:rolleyes: Tec's are over with. Phase is for a single source. Chillers can go to -what ever you want. You insilate accordingly. Don't take me the wrong way, I have read, and read, and read, and built a couple and have figured out the do's and don'ts only a little bit on phase and chilling. GL to you. :toast:

Cronos
05-08-2007, 05:45 AM
Cronos, are you the mystery customer for Drewmiester's new 3/4hp chiller over at EOCF?

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=258500

It sounds eerily familiar...

No, i won't deprive me a joy to design and build this myself :)
I have joined the watercooling community 5 month ago. My WC cooled server is running non-stop over 3 month already and i am starting to feel very boring :)

Pinmod
05-15-2007, 12:08 PM
is it just me or is chilled water kinda messy :)

OCme
05-16-2007, 05:12 AM
It's not messy... you just need to insulate well if you chill below ambient temp.

Pinmod
05-16-2007, 05:41 AM
i've just never seen one that looked "nice"

Starkiller42
05-16-2007, 09:55 AM
That's because the builders are letting you peek inside of their units. Outside, they can look just as nice as any ss system can.

Pinmod
05-16-2007, 02:49 PM
lol you mean like with the case closed an no windows? of coarse it would look fine

rofl lmfao


i could put a bag of crap inside the case and close it and it would look fine

Starkiller42
05-16-2007, 04:22 PM
Well then, problem solved! Out of sight, out of mind...

Modzilla
07-26-2007, 08:21 AM
AC Chiller; Build 2
Final build of my socket 478 chiller. Lazy & no oc benefit from subzero = no insulation. Thermometer monitored and ac unit cycled manually (via remote control).

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/CIMG0032.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/CIMG0037.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/CIMG0038.jpg

LRV
07-31-2007, 02:49 AM
Extreme machine 8-)

Starkiller42
07-31-2007, 08:35 AM
Looks like a nice unit, Modzilla! I like the matching colors; makes a converted AC look a lot more professrional!

Go get some insulation and cover that thing up; we want temps! Tubing insulation is super cheap at ~$2 /6ft length at lowes.

Gautam
07-31-2007, 12:16 PM
Modzilla's build thread is here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=121395) and the title sure as heck speaks for itself. ;)

This is what improper a/c chilling looks like. :-/ Can handle 2900xt's at -20 C liquid temp, x1900's at -32ish.

Starkiller42
07-31-2007, 06:42 PM
Hey Gautam, as far as I'm concerned, beauty in function far exceeds beauty in form. And that chiller of yours is a beast :D.

sssf
08-08-2007, 12:18 AM
thats a nice solution you made modzilla, what are your temps?

Modzilla
08-12-2007, 12:24 PM
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/DSCN0189.jpg

initialised
11-13-2007, 07:23 AM
well, what did you expect, waterchillers aren't designed to take the water to below 0cDepends who designs them and what they are for.
because of condensation for one thing, and the whole freezing point thing as another.Insulate to stop condensation, add glycol or methanol to stop it freezing.
If you want to go below 0, you'll have to either use something crazy like liquid nitrogen and use copper tubing instead of plastic to prevent extreme condensation from happening.Plastics are better insulators than metals.
That's why many people use phase changes instead for extreme coolingMost chillers are 'phase change' (refrigeration) units, heat pipes use phase change, liquid nitrongen and dry ice are phase change.
if you know the problems with tec and how to combat them, you could try that out instead and that should get you below 0.With the heat output on modern CPUs getting subzero on TEC is tricky with direct die and even harder in a TEC chiller.
but as long as you are getting good cpu:water temps, I wouldn't worry about itIsn't lower temps and higher clocks the point of most active cooling methods and why we do worry about it?

initialised
11-13-2007, 07:26 AM
Since my Swiftech MCW6000-NX hadn't turned up I needed something else to tinker with. I decided to explore the FSB limit and found it to be around 450. i.e. when the system temperature goes much above 40C I get 'delayed write failed' errors, choppy performance and the system often hangs. I got into windows at 480MHz. So the system can handle it if I can deal with the heat. So to alleviate this I followed up an idea I'd had for chilling the rest of my system partially successful experiment involved strapping an HDD water block to my RM1 and sandwiching 6 56/91W TEC1-12706 in between.

This is the block with the TECs:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/1709233937_9814ebb069.jpg?v=0

The RM1 was plumbed into the main cooling loop and the HDD block took it's place in the secondary loop.

Some previous testing on these TECs had shown me that they drew around 6A at 5V. I was planning to run them from the PSU's 5V line but it couldn't source enough current. With them all connected it drooped to 4.4V and only gave a dT of -5C without the PC on. Basically it held the water in the secondary loop at ambient while heating the primary. Not quite what I expected from 112/180W of TEC.

So it looks like I need more power. An old ATX or AT PSU should suffice if I run it in parallel with the Antec. 60A should be enough for the TECs and the system. I tried running it off the auxiliary PSU at 12.6V but it got to hot for the RM1 to shift (6mm ID ports) and ended up with a positive dT.

Clue69Less
11-14-2007, 04:02 PM
So it looks like I need more power. An old ATX or AT PSU should suffice if I run it in parallel with the Antec. 60A should be enough for the TECs and the system. I tried running it off the auxiliary PSU at 12.6V but it got to hot for the RM1 to shift (6mm ID ports) and ended up with a positive dT.

What is the advertised voltage range for that TEC?

ElEctric_EyE
01-20-2008, 04:14 AM
Since my Swiftech MCW6000-NX hadn't turned up I needed something else to tinker with. I decided to explore the FSB limit and found it to be around 450. i.e. when the system temperature goes much above 40C I get 'delayed write failed' errors, choppy performance and the system often hangs. I got into windows at 480MHz. So the system can handle it if I can deal with the heat...

That's where I am, just a few months behind your progress, heh. 480x8. I wanna get it stable. Time for chilled water...

Modzilla
01-20-2008, 08:42 AM
An improvement on my previous A/C chiller build:
Link to build thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=173895

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/DSCN0206.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/DSCN0202.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/CIMG0583.jpg

DonNiger
02-22-2008, 07:03 AM
That's my chiller :D Made from an dehumidifer that cost me 10 EUR's: http://www.newwidetech.com/WDH-912H-916D-920H.htm

Orignaly, the look was:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1889/dsc00651wp2.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00651wp2.jpg) http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2639/dsc00650eq9.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00650eq9.jpg) http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7093/dsc00649sl0.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00649sl0.jpg) http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1600/dsc00648iy4.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00648iy4.jpg)

Actually, didn't have to make much changes. The appearance is basically the same. Just drilled some holes, moved some parts, soldered the control chip and added a pump. Now it is easily connectable to any system. Because of a condensation, it has been set to keep the temp of the liquid between 12,5 and 14 degrees celsius. And because of a grate amount of liquid (8 liters), the compressor works only ~50% of the time. And it is quiet.

It is capable of doing much more. The test was made in August (+23c, 17l of water and no insulation).

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8951/dsc00728it9.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00728it9.jpg) http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/6862/dsc00738wy5.th.jpg (http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00738wy5.jpg)


New look: (I added thouse diods only because to have some resisdance for the tiny PSU I mounted under the hood).

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1388/dsc00823au5.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00823au5.jpg) http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5176/dsc00824eb6.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00824eb6.jpg) http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5531/dsc00826dv2.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00826dv2.jpg) http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1553/dsc00918gd6.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00918gd6.jpg) http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1936/dsc00920xq0.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00920xq0.jpg) http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2903/dsc00922cl2.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00922cl2.jpg) http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/861/dsc00930jb8.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00930jb8.jpg)

It was possible (was, because at the moment I have a Prometeia for CPU as well) to cool down my E6700@3,8 Ghz, NB, SB, Mem and 2X OC'd GF6600GT.

Total cost ~50 EUR's :up:

aoch88
02-27-2008, 01:53 AM
I'm just curious, do you guys have phase change for 24/7 run?

[XC] mysticmerlin
02-27-2008, 05:03 AM
I'm just curious, do you guys have phase change for 24/7 run?

It can be or just for benching :up:

coo-coo-clocker
03-26-2008, 06:23 PM
@modzilla - that thing is a BEAST! Kudos to you. :clap:

The nylon strap tiedowns are a excellent touch. :D

krusu70
04-10-2008, 05:35 AM
O.o so much extreme cooling :P
nice setups !

day187
05-03-2008, 08:35 AM
Hi Guys

i come across this

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5645/dsc00932tb3.jpg

from this

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7203/dsc00935gz3.jpg

any good for a watet chiller

Thanks

malkiewicz
05-12-2008, 02:10 AM
my mach modded chiller

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/cooler1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/chillertest.jpg

First ghetto rig up

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/PICT0111.jpg

case sides on.

Got another pc-07 on the way that needs to have a trim ;) to match the top.

Its holding water at 15c so its nicly above the dew point so dont haft to insulate :)

Please Make me one.... :up:

a7mc1
05-30-2008, 02:35 PM
Hi Guys

i come across this

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5645/dsc00932tb3.jpg

from this

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7203/dsc00935gz3.jpg

any good for a watet chiller

Thanks
first of all remove thermostat
direct conect comp :D
use any thermo to monitor temps .
comp like mine
:) i have an lg uses r134a
ma75laeg model
temps after while about -9
i have pump only
i need tubing and home made waterblock :ROTF:

xTKxhom3r
06-19-2008, 02:04 PM
my mach modded chiller

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/cooler1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/chillertest.jpg

First ghetto rig up

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/Sc4mpi2/PICT0111.jpg

case sides on.

Got another pc-07 on the way that needs to have a trim ;) to match the top.

Its holding water at 15c so its nicly above the dew point so dont haft to insulate :)

i want to build a pc exactly like that! how did you fit it all in there! what are your temps

ZenEffect
06-19-2008, 03:19 PM
the better question is why would you have a water chiller hooked up to the radiator unless you wanted to lower dew point inside the case?

Noob-ftw
06-26-2008, 11:50 PM
I don't have anything hooked up to mine at the moment, but it's pretty beastly to look at. It's a 10,000BTU R22 unit, and the best part is that I found it in the garbage!

Here's a picture of the final unit with the controls moved to the top, and rewiring done:

81135

Fr3akyPete
06-27-2008, 09:09 AM
@Noob-ftw
Any pics from the inside or do you have a worklog for it?

Nice color, btw.

Noob-ftw
06-27-2008, 10:03 AM
Here's the semi-worklog:

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/335333-chilled-water-cooling-making.html

reno 456
09-25-2008, 09:15 AM
I honestly love the Orange :)

reno 456
09-25-2008, 09:17 AM
And that condensor is Bloody Massive! :p

bmilos
12-16-2008, 05:23 PM
What are the temp gains with these type of units? I am thinking that I want to put one together, but I have zero experience. Is there a good, noob-ish build guide around?

Jamesrt2004
02-05-2009, 12:15 PM
What are the temp gains with these type of units? I am thinking that I want to put one together, but I have zero experience. Is there a good, noob-ish build guide around?
+ 1


very nice systems!!! ahh so want something like this but im a nooob :)

Plan.B
02-05-2009, 08:30 PM
Sub-ambient but not sub-zero chiller:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/CIMG1306.jpg
Build thread here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=212891

DonNiger
02-12-2009, 03:03 PM
Chiller + peltier together looks much better for me :) Chiller is for GPU only:


http://static2.nagi.ee/i/p/379/9/09477269145b4f_o.jpg
http://static2.nagi.ee/i/p/379/9/094772653b1b82_o.jpg

thunder_2008
02-16-2009, 12:10 PM
Hello everyone what do you guys think about using this XSPC 250 Passive Aluminium Reservoir - Black with a chiller?


http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=318&products_id=22010

I read some reviews and it only drops the temperature by about 1*, and so while it is aluminium and having fins there won't be a fan turning to blow hotter ambient air upon it.

Do you think this will negate the chiller's colder temps., or that I should opt to get out of the shiny black or silver metal with chrome accents & plexiglass look and go with an all plexiglass look and get 1* or more chilling?

Any ideas ???

WaterFlex
05-28-2009, 01:31 PM
Plan.B
Thats great ! :up:

garengx2
06-23-2009, 05:04 PM
:D :D :D extreme liquid cooling..

JWB
08-08-2009, 03:32 PM
Hello everyone what do you guys think about using this XSPC 250 Passive Aluminium Reservoir - Black with a chiller?


http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=318&products_id=22010

I read some reviews and it only drops the temperature by about 1*, and so while it is aluminium and having fins there won't be a fan turning to blow hotter ambient air upon it.

Do you think this will negate the chiller's colder temps., or that I should opt to get out of the shiny black or silver metal with chrome accents & plexiglass look and go with an all plexiglass look and get 1* or more chilling?

Any ideas ???

Nope, sorry.

If you use one of those it will only warm the water up and not cooling it. Its because the water is cooler than the air around it (the ambient temperature). Thats why you shouldnt have a radiator in your loop when using a water chiller :).

In a normal water cooling setup it should work quite well though :). You can also get a silent radiator exactly like that called a reserator, Zalman usually make them.

Hope that helps :up:

James

Assassin48
08-08-2009, 03:38 PM
@Noob-ftw

Loving that orange paint

Plan.B
10-01-2009, 05:30 AM
Technically chilled, but far from ideal chiller performance, and lacking insulation. Under load, with rad fans turned off, it is sub ambient only. Ugly, but it works.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/truckstopcbrambo/CIMG1541.jpg

e-Killer
10-02-2009, 08:45 PM
why do you use aditional Radiator? i think it decrease the perfomance of ur chiller.

Plan.B
10-02-2009, 09:50 PM
so I can crunch wcg 24/7 watercooled, so I don't have to run the chiller 24/7

e-Killer
10-02-2009, 11:56 PM
hehehe Hybrid setup For avoid higher energy bills :P

kInOzAwA
10-28-2009, 11:10 AM
all kitted up and working. need to adjust the bolts to get both of them perfectly lined up but for now its good enough :) (need to give it a polish to remove the finger prints :P)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Sc4mpi/PICT0029.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Sc4mpi/PICT0033.jpg


very nice case mod to used with a water chiller. what kind of case did you used for the bottom one? :clap:

Presretach
10-30-2009, 04:05 AM
My chiller setup