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Geforce4ti4200
02-28-2004, 03:00 AM
I will be starting over and building a whole new rig from scratch. This rig in sig will remain unchanged and become my backup rig.


1. I want an a64 cpu at around 4GHz overclock on 90nm die
2. I want 3-3-3-8 ddr2 ram latency, no worse. I will run sync or async at a minimum of ddr500 speeds. If 250fsb, I run sync. If 310+ fsb I run 5:4
3. I will buy a good case from the computer show. Ill also splurge a bit on at least 500 watts major brand psu with clean, steady rails.
4. 16x dvd rom, 40x cd burner, both should be peanuts by then.
5. Very large hdd, perhaps 200 gigs, 7200rpm monster!
6. obviously gonna keep my broadband, dialup is torture now!
7. If agp is still supported, I will transfer my ti4200 to this rig and stick my other, slower ti4200 or ti500 in my backup rig, else ill be forced to get a pci-e card thats guaranteed to be faster than my ti4200 in both 3dmark and games, most likley from ati
8. I may get the full verson of longhorn, a 64 bit os.


250x12=3GHz oced to 325x12=3.9GHz
dual channel ddr2 ram, 2x1024mb sticks at 5:4 3-3-3-8 timings
high quality overclockable mobo.


should cost me about a grand for my next rig, ill probably build that in early 2006. Will be pretty close to the fastest rigs out cpu wise. graphics wise, itll either be my beloved ti4200 or a upper midrange pci-e card from ati that had better be at least a 9800 pro in performance!

Dexter
02-28-2004, 03:08 AM
LMFAO

Peen
02-28-2004, 03:10 AM
ummm

kommando
02-28-2004, 03:30 AM
Thats coool.

Upgrades for current setup:
Waterchiller
Bh-5 Ram
After a while direct-die cpu,nb,gpu

My next set up will be an a64 with all the best for gaming and i will bench every so often with the case im building. Ill also buy a lanboy so i can go to mates houses.

FreZhm@ker
02-28-2004, 03:37 AM
I'm just upgrading my "old" rig. I want a P4C800E-Deluxe mobo, 2x120Gb SATA Raid 0 and watercooling! My TI4200 have many bench'es to go!

Susquehannock
02-28-2004, 04:24 AM
Since you asked .... :banana3:

No upgrade for a while here. Then again, I don't need to
have the latest & greatest. Heck, up until a few months ago
I was using the GeForce2 card my friend gave me.
Also, the 9500 in my 2.5ghz Soltek OCing rig is fine for now.
Renders Halo and UT2k4 just fine.

Also ... just ordered a $32 refurb "Purple Ray" Soltek board
and $35 case with 300w Sparkle PSU from NewEgg
to be used as a dedicated Folding rig. :D

interman
02-28-2004, 05:46 AM
planning on getting a good nforce 3 250 mobo this spring / early summer, and something like a 939 pin a64 3700+, depending on what's out and what they'll cost.

Already got a 9800xt and a 5900 ultra, but by that time I'll probably have moved on to nv40/r420. Will also need a new powersupply, so I'll probably go with a antec 550watt.

Might also need something to replace my xms3500, but I'll see when the time comes.

only got 120gb+60gb in my main pc and a 120gb in my xbox, but i have a couple of 120gb/160gb disks coming in from a friend, so I probably won't have to upgrade there for a while.

finally, it would be fun to go phase-change, but i'm actually saving up for a $2800 pair of used sonus faber cremona auditor speakers, so the vapor will have to wait :D

bigdawginva
02-28-2004, 05:58 AM
With threads like this I can certainly see why some average 7 posts a day. However, I must say this is a first. I've never seen a thread started about something 2 years out. For the life of me I don't see how this falls into the category of extreme overclocking. I can see xtreme forums looking more like the futuremark forums everyday. I can understand why I don't see gurus like Randi and others post here much anymore.

antipop
02-28-2004, 06:06 AM
My next step is a working comp mine is down for way too long :mad:
Other than that no upgrade plan, i've no money and no time to spend it on the comp, maybe a bigger HDD like a 160GB sata drive

ps sonus faber makes some great speakers, and with a superb sound. What is your current hifi?

Master_G
02-28-2004, 09:17 AM
Im gonna hav to start over pretty soon, this P3 750 @ 900 and GF3ti200 @ ti500 just dont cut it anymore:( :p:

G

3rd-Dimension
02-28-2004, 09:21 AM
upgrade to current limitations of this chipset (875) then that should give me enough power till the new standards are in place and rdy for me to buy. Get like a 3.2 prescott a r420 or nv40 whichevers faster and wait it out.

Karnivore
02-28-2004, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I will be starting over and building a whole new rig from scratch. This rig in sig will remain unchanged and become my backup rig.


1. I want an a64 cpu at around 4GHz overclock on 90nm die
2. I want 3-3-3-8 ddr2 ram latency, no worse. I will run sync or async at a minimum of ddr500 speeds. If 250fsb, I run sync. If 310+ fsb I run 5:4
3. I will buy a good case from the computer show. Ill also splurge a bit on at least 500 watts major brand psu with clean, steady rails.
4. 16x dvd rom, 40x cd burner, both should be peanuts by then.
5. Very large hdd, perhaps 200 gigs, 7200rpm monster!
6. obviously gonna keep my broadband, dialup is torture now!
7. If agp is still supported, I will transfer my ti4200 to this rig and stick my other, slower ti4200 or ti500 in my backup rig, else ill be forced to get a pci-e card thats guaranteed to be faster than my ti4200 in both 3dmark and games, most likley from ati
8. I may get the full verson of longhorn, a 64 bit os.


250x12=3GHz oced to 325x12=3.9GHz
dual channel ddr2 ram, 2x1024mb sticks at 5:4 3-3-3-8 timings
high quality overclockable mobo.


should cost me about a grand for my next rig, ill probably build that in early 2006. Will be pretty close to the fastest rigs out cpu wise. graphics wise, itll either be my beloved ti4200 or a upper midrange pci-e card from ati that had better be at least a 9800 pro in performance!


What does this have to do with Xtreme Overclocking, other than dreaming of a 4ghz A64? Your far from being NEW to the forum, can't you please try to put stuff in more apropriate sections of the forum? Computer related open discussion would seem a bit more apriopriate.

jonspd
02-28-2004, 09:58 AM
DFI infinity
mobile 2500

Thats all I'am upgrading to untill the A64 stuff get's alittle cheapier for my blood.

TheDogFather
02-28-2004, 10:09 AM
It could have been worse, it could have been 'Estimate what 3dmark score youd get with cards you dont own' (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=273973) .

TDF.

antipop
02-28-2004, 10:30 AM
Lol he didn't made this thread here :D

jonspd
02-28-2004, 10:34 AM
O yea he did and the other one is just about as good(bad). LOL

sandman
02-28-2004, 10:46 AM
the only thing I'm saving for is a Nforce3 250 in socket 754 flavor.

Other than that, I'm trying to not spend so much on computers anymore.

Karnivore
02-28-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by antipop
Lol he didn't made this thread here :D


huh???

Çhrist0ph
02-28-2004, 11:18 AM
4GHZ A64!!!!???

Keep on dreaming...:stick:

hollywood
02-28-2004, 11:29 AM
This should totally be moved to Comp-Related open discussion.

Silversink
02-28-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Hollywood
This should totally be moved to Comp-Related open discussion.

I Agree, I will move it now



As far as upgrading, I am not upgrading anything until PCI-Express is out and affordable, DDR-2 is actually worth upgrading to,and affordable, BTX availability is common ( I may convert my PSU to BTX (http://www.overclockers.com/tips1137/) )

And lastly Prescotts are in the D steppings or something better is available.

Until then, I am not upgrading one damn thing.:explode:

antipop
02-28-2004, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by sandman
the only thing I'm saving for is a Nforce3 250 in socket 754 flavor.

Other than that, I'm trying to not spend so much on computers anymore. You too are becoming reasonnable?

thebove
02-28-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by TheDogFather
It could have been worse, it could have been 'Estimate what 3dmark score youd get with cards you dont own' (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=273973) .

TDF.

it can be even worse than that, and it is....at sharky, we've got this upgrade thread AND the 3dmark estimation thread....

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228097

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=227510

TheDogFather
02-28-2004, 05:31 PM
Man he's a serial poster. 5000 posts in less than a year at Sharkys not to mention all the other places he's spam er posted.

Unbelievable.

TDF.

Shade00
02-29-2004, 09:21 PM
I know of three forums that he posts at, and there may be more. He has over 3000 posts at O/C Forums, over 5000 at Sharky's, and he's working on his post count here. It boggles my mind to think about how much he posts. Do you think he eats at his computer? Do you think he ever moves away from the screen and stops 3dmarking?

I sold him his Corsair wonder RAM. Perhaps it wasn't such a good idea. :rolleyes:

Someone pointed out over at Sharky's that he doesn't pay attention to other people's posts. It's like trying to reason with a brick wall. Several people proved him wrong over there when he tried to say he could run Far Cry at 16x12 max details, but he just ignored it.

Ti4200, OC550, Tbird1ghz. These are all names you go by, but why do you choose to ignore logic? Please, start making some sense. Don't just come back and say 'don't flame me' when people criticize posts like this. If your thousands of posts had been informative or truly interrogatory, then no one would have a problem with you. People often post to ask questions, but how is this a legitimate question? Anyway, I've never gotten on the soap box about this before, and I wouldn't have done so if I hadn't seen this post, the 3dmark guesstimation thread, and the new Ti4200 post all over the web. Cheers.

hollywood
03-01-2004, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Shade00
I know of three forums that he posts at, and there may be more. He has over 3000 posts at O/C Forums, over 5000 at Sharky's, and he's working on his post count here. It boggles my mind to think about how much he posts. Do you think he eats at his computer? Do you think he ever moves away from the screen and stops 3dmarking?

I sold him his Corsair wonder RAM. Perhaps it wasn't such a good idea. :rolleyes:

Someone pointed out over at Sharky's that he doesn't pay attention to other people's posts. It's like trying to reason with a brick wall. Several people proved him wrong over there when he tried to say he could run Far Cry at 16x12 max details, but he just ignored it.

Ti4200, OC550, Tbird1ghz. These are all names you go by, but why do you choose to ignore logic? Please, start making some sense. Don't just come back and say 'don't flame me' when people criticize posts like this. If your thousands of posts had been informative or truly interrogatory, then no one would have a problem with you. People often post to ask questions, but how is this a legitimate question? Anyway, I've never gotten on the soap box about this before, and I wouldn't have done so if I hadn't seen this post, the 3dmark guesstimation thread, and the new Ti4200 post all over the web. Cheers.

Maybe he's really stuck in some sort of wacky situation...you know...like that Richard Prior movie..."Brewster's Millions."

I can see it right now....Que wavy dream sequence.....



Dad :shakes: : Ok son....you've been here for the last 5 years doing absolutly NOTHING with your life but talk to people on your computer. Now your grandfather has died and left you a rather large amount of money...

Ti4200 :banana: : Really dad!??!! WOW...thats great...when do I get it???:banana:

Dad:slap: : You don't!!! Unless you do something great in your life...something that no other man has EVER attempted. As I see it...your only good for one thing...talking to people on the damn computer...So this is what your gonna do.

Ti4200:confused: : What do I ....SMACK!!!

:slap:

Dad:shakes: :I'm not done yet dammit!!! 2nd:slap:...Your gonna sit here and post...your gonna post your little fingers to the bone. Since you've been left 5 million dollars...you have exactly ONE YEAR to amass 5 MILLION POSTS online!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAH HHAHAH HAH ha ha eh... whew!

Or it goes to your adopted kid sister...


Ti4200:( :...Man!!! I guess I better get crackin, eh Val???:worship:


Val: Thats right babay...it's juzt j00 and meh!!!;):smileysex

Geforce4ti4200
03-01-2004, 05:22 AM
omg :off: Hollywood, you should become a comedian. And dont worry val, those men are just jealous cause you got more curves than all their anorexic girlfriends combined :off:

Geforce4ti4200
03-01-2004, 05:35 AM
my god it wont let me edit my post. I didnt mean to use the off topic smiley, but meant to use the laughting smiley instead. I find that really hillarious. anyway lets get serious and go by the topic

antipop
03-01-2004, 11:13 AM
Was that thread ever serious???
I prefer anorexic models

Soulburner
03-01-2004, 03:55 PM
Heres what I would like.

A64 3400+ 512k S939
230x11 1:1 2-2-2-6 daily watercooled
Some low latency RAM in 2x512mb (my BH5 is only 2x256mb)
nForce3 250 DC DDR AGP 8x Board
R9800XT 256mb DDR2 (on the way as we speak)
2x36Gb Raptors RAID0 (already have 1)

A little more "reasonable" than the topic starter's dream system....

Reasons: Initially, PCX and DDR2 will not be of any benefeit and this way is much cheaper for me and just as fast.

kokoro_kara
03-01-2004, 10:35 PM
I'm going to get the newest baddest...

Dell... um, no

Gateway... Yah that's it a Gatewa y!!!!

[XC]thewildblue
03-03-2004, 02:49 PM
[i]should cost me about a grand for my next rig, ill probably build that in early 2006. [/B]


Of course you will.

What about doing it now, or least something close. I mean 2006 is quite a distance away in computer terms, they de-value quicker than prestige cars in the uk ! Have more model revisions aswell.

Geforce4ti4200
03-04-2004, 12:14 AM
todays technology isnt that much better than what I already have so its a waste of money now

Soulburner
03-04-2004, 12:22 AM
But you could be getting 30k!

:rolleyes:

antipop
03-04-2004, 12:23 AM
guy you should try a radeon 9700 or 9800 and see the change in IQ, i was amazed when i switched from a ti4400 to a ati radeon 9700 and i'm not talking about 3dmark

[XC]thewildblue
03-04-2004, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
todays technology isnt that much better than what I already have so its a waste of money now

So nearly doubling your score, isnt much better that what you already have not good enough ?

All the things with the exception of the 4ghz A64 are more or less available to you know for cheap. I mean I have CH-5 thats over a year old doing 11-2-2-2 @ 248fsb.

16x DVD = £20ish
40x CDRW = £20ish

I mean how cheap do you want things.

10x248 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7504413)

Geforce4ti4200
03-04-2004, 03:45 AM
almost no ch5 will do such insanely high fsb at those timings. Your ram sure sounds like bh5 to me. I paid $70 for my stick of ram that does 220fsb at 2-2-3-11 that isnt too bad though, my $200 mushkin didnt overclock any better but did 2-2-2-11 which only gained me a couple hundred marks. There is no need for DVD till they start making games on DVD disks instead of cd. cdrw isnt useful for me at this time. I am not gonna break 30k unless I win the lotto and buy a tank of liquid nitrogen to run thru my cpu and 9800xt gpu ;)


edit: your less than 1k marks ahead of me(16490 for me) and youve got a watercooled barton at much higher fsb too. Thats how hard 17k is and why ive given up, not worth the money for that. in 2 years 25k on a ti4200 should be quite easy and is what ill be getting then onwards to gaming :D

[XC]thewildblue
03-04-2004, 04:17 AM
But mine does....and it reads CH-5 on the chips. I have two matched modules both twinmoss PC3200. On my NF7-S Ver 1.2 they wouldnt do above 220, but with this DFI and 3.2volts they do 248....and thats with CPC.

If you looked around you will find that quite alot of ppl are now starting to get high FSB + good timingswith Ch-5.

My watercooled barton is on basic water, no pelts or anything, with my old AX-7 I did ok as well.

Here is an old aircooled score using my NF7 and the same barton,same RAM.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7234495 ( Old Score



DVDs can be used for other things other than just games ya know. They hold loads of data, plus there is the fun part of playing with movies!

Benchmarking is all about hard work, getting the most out of your system, if it was easy everyone would be doing it. Its making the best of what you have.

No you wont break 30k even if you win the lotto coz it sounds like u arent interested in the hard work....lol.

Geforce4ti4200
03-04-2004, 05:37 AM
"On my NF7-S Ver 1.2 they wouldnt do above 220, but with this DFI and 3.2volts they do 248....and thats with CPC."


thats because your mobo was limiting you rather than the ram. I had to mod mine to get past 220fsb as well! and your old score is low, I am matching you on a tbred 200MHz slower than your barton. If I had your cpu id be easily over 17k for sure, maybe even 18k if I can find ram thatll do 240fsb and a cpu thatll do 2.64GHz. all air cooled but I havent the money and im done with 3dmark too

[XC]thewildblue
03-04-2004, 06:15 AM
Yes but I was just explaing that its CH-5, not what was holding me back....hmm cant think why I upgraded to the DFI.....hmmm

Although my old score is "low" its still beating your best by 10 points isnt it !!!! :stick:

We could all say if I had yours I would be x y and z faster couldnt we....thats why I said make the most of what u have. Give yer mouth a chance.

Easily over 17k my arse. Notice that between 17000-17500 there are only two athlon processors that I saw. Must be a piece of cake.

Geforce4ti4200
03-04-2004, 07:19 AM
if I had your ram and a better overclocking tbred, id be at 17k. my 16490 was on just 229x10 and that was with my mushkin ram, wasnt stable either but managed to complete a few runs without crashing. 245x9.5=2.33GHz which isnt hard but I dont know if my cpu can still overclock that high anymore. id gain 80 marks with 40MHz more on the cpu and 320 marks for the 16 higher fsb. thats 400 marks more plus my ti4200 was not vmodded when I got 16490, its modded now. id be closer to 17100 actually at 245fsb but 17k for sure :) but im not spending $300 for ram and is anyone gonna sell their ram that does 240fsb at 2-2-2-11 timings cheap either? nope!

[XC]thewildblue
03-04-2004, 07:30 AM
Missing the point.....

Well there is difference between actually doing something and saying something.....you can throw numbers at me all day long, I want to see a futuremark url instead. Reminds me of a thing that kids used to do.....my dad can beat your dad up etc etc.

make yer mind about me having a much higher frontside bus as well.....Im at 248 and you are at 245.....hmm 3, wot a big number

You change your stories like the wind, it was a maximum of 220 earlier.... :confused:

My ram cost me £50 for two modules, bought as twinmoss with winbond.

My board has no vmods.
My card is stock, not even added artic silver to the core.

lalPOOO
03-13-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Silversink

As far as upgrading, I am not upgrading anything until PCI-Express is out and affordable, DDR-2 is actually worth upgrading to,and affordable, BTX availability is common.

And lastly Prescotts are in the D steppings or something better is available.


Basicly my mentality. I will get a next gen graphics card and possibly 1 36gb raptor drive before then though.

lalPOOO
03-13-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
omg :off: Hollywood, you should become a comedian. And dont worry val, those men are just jealous cause you got more curves than all their anorexic girlfriends combined :off:

Maybe when she bends over, and her tummy compresses... but then again, my dad has those kinds of curves and I don't find him very attractive. Also, I'm pretty sure if you asked that girl if she ever felt jealous of skinny girls she'd say yes.

arDAWG65
03-30-2004, 06:17 AM
GForce4ti4200=High_3Dmarks from AMDmb Forums:
http://forums.amdmb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=300406
;)

buff
03-30-2004, 10:37 AM
But you could be getting 30k!
:rolleyes:

lol
dont do that man, I am at college, and in the library they dont like people rolling on the flore laughing:P

kommando
03-31-2004, 01:44 AM
Ill prob do upgrades till me next comp though :)