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UranusFX
11-27-2012, 06:08 AM
- 7.0mm height
- 128, 256, 512GB Capacities
- Up to Read 550MB/s, Write 530MB/s
- Random read up to 100,000iops

- IMFT 25nm NAND of Synchronous
- Micron DDR3 512MB

There were many things past.
OCZ got a real self-made controller, Barefoot 3 (INDILINX infused).
EVEREST series has been made ​​in the IP of the Marvell.
That's no need to say, VERTEX series almost contains SandForce :)

Press - http://www.techpowerup.com/176198/OCZ-Launches-Vector-SSD-Series-and-Proprietary-Barefoot-3-Controller.html

Nice speed including real world performance.
But I worry about bugs.

Review - http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2082/1/

Alex-Ro
11-27-2012, 06:31 AM
Waiting for some real world 50%,75% fill tests.Same with 840 pro,nobody did those tests yet...

Highendtoys
11-27-2012, 06:56 AM
The NDA doesn't expire until Noon EST. Fill testing will be on TweakTown in two hours.

The 840 250GB gets fill tested in the same charts but not the 840 Pro.

Highendtoys
11-27-2012, 09:32 AM
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5071/ocz_vector_256gb_ssd_review/index.html

JR.
11-27-2012, 04:03 PM
Waiting for some real world 50%,75% fill tests.Same with 840 pro,nobody did those tests yet...

Hi Alex,

See Wendy's review over at myce.com http://www.myce.com/review/ocz-vector-ssd-review-64988/Speed-degradation-after-heavy-use-10/

Regds, JR

Highendtoys
11-27-2012, 04:44 PM
LOL, you can't use a benchmark that shows only the maximum speed from a short burst test to measure SSDs with data on the drive. Anyone who actually runs an SSD knows the performance drop off isn't just a small margin and that's what the data displays.

There's also serious issues running SWAT to play back traces on consumer drives since you are working with the actual data files and little things like TRIM aren't taking place. There's also that little queue depth issue. Yes, the software is called SWAT and not some mystery hardware covered by NDA.

joelz
11-27-2012, 05:35 PM
I'll wait until the drive gets some mileage on it from customers who post about it while/after using it. Companies push out computer related products (a very big bucket here) and fix issues later all the time. The vertex 3 (and vertex 4?) were no different and show the companies track record.

I do like the Vertex 3's and own 9 of them, but I also suffered bugchecks and very low performance. Both issues are inexcusable. OCZ should have said the Vertex 3 would only perform at 50% of advertized rates when mated to Marvell xyz SATA 3 chip sets, or just provide a compatibility list from the start. Instead, they wanted to make more money (Marvell chips had a *huge* market share).

I do like quite a few OCZ products and would buy another Vertex 3, but corporations that do ch!t like this rub me the wrong way.

It would be great to see positive feedback from customers from this new product. It would certainly show they changed their ways.

canthearu
11-27-2012, 05:53 PM
The Vector looks like it uses the same NAND tricks that the vertex 4 does to gain performance numbers using cheap ONFI NAND. Unless it is a 16 channel controller or something extreme.

So I'd probably avoid recommending it if it does use the same tricks.

Highendtoys
11-27-2012, 06:40 PM
Barefoot 3 is an 8-channel controller and Indilinx's storage mode is back in the same manner it was on Vertex 4. http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5071/ocz_vector_256gb_ssd_review/index.html It's all there.

Computurd
11-27-2012, 07:47 PM
I'm thinking barefoot looks pretty stanky, i must say that i am impressed with OCZ on this outing.

Brahmzy
11-27-2012, 07:54 PM
Pretty darn close to the Sammy 840 Pros - trades blows every other metric.

canthearu
11-27-2012, 08:09 PM
Pretty darn close to the Sammy 840 Pros - trades blows every other metric.

Yeah, but the Vector comes with bi-polar personality (storage mode), where as the samsung 840 pro doesn't.

Computurd
11-27-2012, 08:28 PM
true, but from steady state testing at another site even in storage mode it is better than the rest. impressive!

canthearu
11-27-2012, 08:39 PM
Storage mode is not generally when you have more then 50% full.

It occurs when you use more then 50% of the free space on a drive and don't let it idle to recover. Then write performance drops by about 3 quarters.

Additionally, it causes a penalty on write endurance, because during idle time, the drive must read everything written in the 1 bit per cell performance mode and re-write it as 2 bits per cell.

Computurd
11-27-2012, 08:59 PM
Yup, they filled the drive to 70%, ran the workload until it reached steady state, then immediately logged performance. It still performed very well surprisingly.
The write endurance difference could bear some testing though, that could be very interesting.

Tony
11-28-2012, 01:49 AM
Yeah, but the Vector comes with bi-polar personality (storage mode), where as the samsung 840 pro doesn't.

only a test that writes to the whole of the drive in 1 go will show it, so if you like running hdtach all day then get another brand drive, vector is so fast at recovering and moving data around to free up fast writes a normal end user who actually uses a drive for day to day data will never notice a slow down.

you guys seriously need to look past a hdtach graph...drives are being built now that excel with real world use.


Additionally, it causes a penalty on write endurance, because during idle time, the drive must read everything written in the 1 bit per cell performance mode and re-write it as 2 bits per cell

The warranty now covers physical writes and Anand clearly states what the warranty is in his review, we all know the drive will exceed this..but for peace of mind the end user now knows what they can expect from the product.

You guys may want to run anvil on this, you buy it you do what you want, the warranty is clear however, imo you would just be wasting your money doing the test...

OCZ are changing...very very different now than 12 months ago.

Wendy
11-28-2012, 05:31 AM
LOL, you can't use a benchmark that shows only the maximum speed from a short burst test to measure SSDs with data on the drive. Anyone who actually runs an SSD knows the performance drop off isn't just a small margin and that's what the data displays.

There's also serious issues running SWAT to play back traces on consumer drives since you are working with the actual data files and little things like TRIM aren't taking place. There's also that little queue depth issue. Yes, the software is called SWAT and not some mystery hardware covered by NDA.You would do far better if you concentrated on your own testing methods, and left other reviewers to conduct their tests in their own way, rather than trying to rubbish other reviewers like I've seen from you in another thread on here.
You don't know anything about my traces, or the hardware that measures them, so why not just leave it at that. ;)

canthearu
11-28-2012, 07:18 PM
only a test that writes to the whole of the drive in 1 go will show it, so if you like running hdtach all day then get another brand drive, vector is so fast at recovering and moving data around to free up fast writes a normal end user who actually uses a drive for day to day data will never notice a slow down.

But Tony, at the moment, I can get a Samsung 840 PRO which doesn't do this for exactly the same price. Not to mention that this recovery you talk about increases the write amplification of the drive (probably by a factor of 2)

What has the vector got going for it that the Samsung 840 pro doesn't already do?



The warranty now covers physical writes and Anand clearly states what the warranty is in his review, we all know the drive will exceed this..but for peace of mind the end user now knows what they can expect from the product.


Yeah, 35 TiB, which is pretty pathetic because the samsung 840 (and virtually all other SSDs) are guaranteed for it's entire NAND specification lifetime, which is generally far more then 35TiB. Even the 120Gig Samsung 840 non-pro is typically warranted for > 100TiB under desktop loads.

Now, admittedly I don't have any official warranty information to base my rant on, as none seems to be published on the OCZ webpages so far.



You guys may want to run anvil on this, you buy it you do what you want, the warranty is clear however, imo you would just be wasting your money doing the test...

OCZ are changing...very very different now than 12 months ago.

Nah, I'm going to skip running anvil on the drive. I'd be expecting results similar to the Vertex 4, based on the general quality and performance of 25nm ONFI NAND and the way the vector works. (being similar to the V4)

That is, unless you think I am wrong for some reason and think it is worth revisiting ... My mind can be changed :)

Edit: Although I am glad to hear that the culture at your company has been changing, maybe there is hope yet! I know I will be watching what happens with the Vector over the next few months. The Vertex 4 support and compatibility was definitely better handled then the Vertex 3, and there does seem to be a lot less outright failure problems in the spotlight.

JR.
11-29-2012, 02:46 AM
Hi,

I thought folks would be interested to see how a Vector 256GB performs as a Windows 8 boot drive in my Dell XPS 17 laptop.

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/3633/asssdbenchoczvector2611.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img231/4606/201211262205x.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/2065/oczvector256gb1gb201211.png

Impressive for a laptop don't you think?

I just wanted to add that in my day to day, real world, hands-on experience of the Vertex 4 and now the Vector I have never experienced slipping out of performance mode. I can of course force it to happen by running a synthetic benchmark or by forcing extreme circumstances that are extremely unlikely to occur in real-world usage.

Regds, JR

felix_w
11-29-2012, 05:03 AM
Is that performance with CPU Power-Saving features On or Off ?

JR.
11-29-2012, 05:13 AM
Is that performance with CPU Power-Saving features On or Off ?

Hi felix,

It is with the High Performance Power Plan engaged in Windows but the XPS 17's BIOS gives me no opportunity to disable C States etc.

Regds, JR

Tony
11-29-2012, 08:12 AM
Samsungs warranty:

840pro Warranty

5 years limited (client PC use only, 1 year data retention)* 5 years limited warranty assumes a workload of 40GB/day (host writes, 3-month data retention) for enterprise applications. Workloads in excess of 40GB/day are not covered under warranty.


840 3 Years Limited Warranty with recommended usage for desktop and laptop PCs...they don't say what that recommended usage is.

So....the pro has 2x what we are giving for host writes per day, ours will do way more than we quote BUT you have to be conservative when throwing a figure at it, BUT its NOT > 100TiB under desktop loads...its 73TB and no more.

The pro is an enterprise class drive, vector is not, the 840 has 3 yr warranty and no mention of recommended usage http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/memory-cards-hdd-odd/ssd/840/MZ-7TD120BW-spec that i can find.

The only thing many reviewers are pointing out is pricing BUT you have to start somewhere..prices go up and down depending on demand or lack of demand...our sales team manage that so its not for me to comment.

Zaxx
11-30-2012, 12:51 AM
I'm fairly confident the Vector price will settle....launch prices in general are on the high side to capitalize on the early adopters and impatient enthusiasts. I'm guessing the Vector pricing will settle as will the 840 Pro. Ofc I could be totally off the mark...just an educated guess based on the past.

All the Ocz headlines put aside, I also think that Ocz has finally had enuff of the 'we'll launch it first for exclusivity and deal with the teething issues as they come'. As mentioned, the Vector launch was very delayed...looks like Ocz decided against going down the same path as they did with the SF1200 and SF2200. All the benching and endurance testing aside, only time will really tell the story...for the most part.
Now I'm waiting to see what a high-end Vector will consist of...24 or 19nm toggle with a generous increase of dram cache size/speed maybe? Can't wait til the time comes when fully functional PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0 is the norm. It should hold us over til sata express becomes a reality some time in 2014...lol

Tony
11-30-2012, 07:15 AM
I'm fairly confident the Vector price will settle....launch prices in general are on the high side to capitalize on the early adopters and impatient enthusiasts. I'm guessing the Vector pricing will settle as will the 840 Pro. Ofc I could be totally off the mark...just an educated guess based on the past.

All the Ocz headlines put aside, I also think that Ocz has finally had enuff of the 'we'll launch it first for exclusivity and deal with the teething issues as they come'. As mentioned, the Vector launch was very delayed...looks like Ocz decided against going down the same path as they did with the SF1200 and SF2200. All the benching and endurance testing aside, only time will really tell the story...for the most part.
Now I'm waiting to see what a high-end Vector will consist of...24 or 19nm toggle with a generous increase of dram cache size/speed maybe? Can't wait til the time comes when fully functional PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0 is the norm. It should hold us over til sata express becomes a reality some time in 2014...lol

what vector is now will pretty much not change...

Brahmzy
11-30-2012, 07:25 AM
What's in store for Vector 2? What is the projected life cycle of the Vector 1?

Zaxx
11-30-2012, 11:53 AM
what vector is now will pretty much not change...

Kill joy! :shakes: (j/k)

After some thought (and some sleep) I guess realistically that the drive is pretty much bangin' on the sata6 ceiling...so a slight bump in perf (i.e. toggle, more cache) would go totally unnoticed except for a few extra benchmark points. Time for me to make my usual interwebz rounds.

Kain665
11-30-2012, 12:42 PM
I'm sure there will be higher performance drives based on the BF3 controller in the future.

Computurd
11-30-2012, 03:55 PM
its actually a good platform to build on. So...all Aragon next round?

Boogerlad
11-30-2012, 05:32 PM
I just want a bootable pci-e drive.

Highendtoys
12-01-2012, 08:58 AM
I'm sure OCZ will scale Vector up, hopefully no down with async. RevoDrive and enterprise based on BF3 will be nice although Vector's latency isn't as tight as it was on Vertex 4. That's something they can tackle with increased OP.

Most of the performance gains now will be in firmware. OCZ is really good about improving performance with firmware updates, they went a long way with V4.

A move to 19nm or 20nm flash will improve power. Here's what Intel did on power moving from 25nm to 20nm.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5082/intel_335_series_240gb_ssd_review/index14.html

I hope they hurry up and wrap up the BF3 based drives and turn their attention to SATA Express.

Zaxx
12-01-2012, 04:34 PM
Given the platform/potential, I can see the BF3 kicking some major ass in the enterprise side of things. I'm thinkin' the BF3 will, without a doubt, show up with guns-a-blazin' in the form of bootable pci-e drives for both enthusiast and enterprise markets. Good chance the Z drives may get bested imo.

Kain665
12-01-2012, 06:01 PM
I think BF3 is a strictly consumer part. if OCZ is going to survive they will need to tackle the enterprise market with a very enterprise oriented part, not try to cobble together an enterprise feature set on a consumer part.

Highendtoys
12-01-2012, 06:15 PM
I think BF3 is a strictly consumer part. if OCZ is going to survive they will need to tackle the enterprise market with a very enterprise oriented part, not try to cobble together an enterprise feature set on a consumer part.

That takes money, if you've followed along for the last two months then you know that is a bit of an issue. Also, everyone takes consumer and turns them into entry level enterprise. BF3 kicks ass in many enterprise tests. At TT we run a lot tests than we publish.

Also, entry level enterprise is easier to sell than the big PCIe cards. The big cards take a lot of validation and qualification. The first one isn't so difficult, the second one takes a lot of time.

Kain665
12-01-2012, 06:35 PM
We shall see, just my 2 cents :)

Zaxx
12-01-2012, 07:00 PM
I think BF3 is a strictly consumer part. if OCZ is going to survive they will need to tackle the enterprise market with a very enterprise oriented part, not try to cobble together an enterprise feature set on a consumer part.

Sorry but I couldn't disagree more...the BF3 is much more geared for the enterprise market than the consumer market and I'm not referring to entry level enterprise either. The current BF3 isn't even close to utilizing it's enterprise capabilities imo.



Some of the deets...

From XBit Labs (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/display/20120913105842_OCZ_to_Release_Performance_Breakthr ough_Vector_SSDs_in_Q4.html)

"The OCZ/Indilinx Barefoot 3 controller utilizes internally designed - the first time for OCZ - Aragon 400MHz 32-bit processor. The 3 core Aragon supports an SSD specific RISC instruction set, allowing most instructions and branches to be executed in a single cycle."

"When implemented in SSD controller, the [Aragon 3 core gives] a much higher performance than when using an off-the-shelf embedded safety field. This design opens a world of new possibilities for game changing SSD solutions as it supports unprecedented levels of processing power."

Kain665
12-02-2012, 02:07 AM
I'm not sure how that makes it geared toward the enterprise market. It's an explanation of it's performance characteristics, not feature set. The enterprise market isn't defined by performance, rather by a feature set better fitting to a specific application's needs than a consumer grade drive.

Kain665
12-05-2012, 03:47 PM
I've been qualifying both the Vector and Samsung drives, with great results from both. Just for kicks, I decided to see what was the highest IO rate each controller could sustain. Some interesting results - 840 Pro 512GB was able to achieve 127k with some strange CPU and Latency issues, the Vector 512GB was able to achieve 172k. Images attached below.

Blah, can't figure out this damn uploader! Keeps saying "not a valid image file".

http://imageshack.us/a/img31/3585/127k840p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/127k840p.jpg/)

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http://imageshack.us/a/img706/5189/172kvector.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/172kvector.jpg/)

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Workload is 512BRR @ QD32.

Zaxx
12-05-2012, 10:09 PM
Looks like Ocz's new 'stability/consistency above all' approach is off to a good start...a true must for ent. level existance.

B Gates
12-06-2012, 12:03 AM
it does have spectacular 4k writes:

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab323/obamaliar/Vector%20on%20server%202008/11.png

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab323/obamaliar/Vector%20on%20server%202008/10.png

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab323/obamaliar/Vector%20on%20server%202008/12.png

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab323/obamaliar/Vector%20on%20server%202008/14.png

and kicks vantages ass

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab323/obamaliar/Vector%20on%20server%202008/16.png

Zaxx
12-06-2012, 01:43 AM
Never seen 4ks like that from a single drive. I may end up skipping the SuperSSpeeds for a pair of Vortex...SLC is sweet but tbo I'll never even come close to needing that kind of endurance. If I had a workstation or server, they'd be absolutely perfect...but I don't.

JR.
12-06-2012, 03:40 AM
it does have spectacular 4k writes:



Sure does :up:

Nizzen
12-06-2012, 02:22 PM
I like faster 4k read than 4k write.

But it is just me....

Ourasi
12-07-2012, 02:15 PM
I like faster 4k read than 4k write.

But it is just me....

Not just you... :P

JR.
12-07-2012, 05:43 PM
Hi,

Some benchmarks for 2 x Vector 256GB in R0 in Z77 -

http://imageshack.us/a/img525/7772/asssdbenchvectorr064k06.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img259/6361/201212061758atto64k.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img94/1131/vectorr064k512gb1gb2012.png

Regds, JR

B Gates
12-10-2012, 09:20 AM
Check out the full RAID 0 review here: http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?cat=&id=746&pagenumber=1 Vector is freaking awesome

Zaxx
12-11-2012, 06:26 AM
Hate to say I told ya so...but I did!! Ocz may not have it's financial house in order but that didn't stop them from putting out a fast, well rounded drive that kicks some real ass.

Highendtoys
12-11-2012, 06:36 AM
Who wants to see the affordable model?

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5110/ocz_vector_128gb_ssd_review/index1.html

128GB Vector Review

Nizzen
12-11-2012, 09:06 AM
So if you like read performance buy 840, if you like to write like hell, buy Vector...

Zaxx
12-11-2012, 11:16 AM
Who wants to see the affordable model?

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5110/ocz_vector_128gb_ssd_review/index1.html

128GB Vector Review

That's me all the way...fits the motto in my sig perfectly. A pair in R0 will do me just fine. Will wait til after Xmas though...not real keen on paying launch prices for anything.

Demo
12-20-2012, 08:58 AM
Looks like a sweet drive, beats my ForceGT inside out! Makes me want to upgrade!

Highendtoys
12-20-2012, 11:50 AM
I'm writing the 512GB tonight.

Kain665
12-20-2012, 12:02 PM
Looking forward to it.

alan1476
12-23-2012, 02:21 PM
So I gues the prices will stay as is for a good long time, I hope not, I want both of these drives.

Zaxx
12-23-2012, 04:05 PM
Naaa...I'd look for them to start coming down again before long, after everyone spends the money they got for xmas. lol

Here's what I ran into regarding ssd prices...and it's good:

SSD prices are low?and they'll get lower, 2011 pricing plateau gave way to a huge slide, with more sliding to come.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/ssd-prices-are-low-and-theyll-get-lower



On another note, here's a great write up about the hard drive industry, how they're still jackin us with inflated prices and how ssds will start catching up to HDDs sooner rather than later.


Seagate and Western Digital wait for the click of death

"Hard drive makers are playing the role of Nero while they watch their market slowly burn...."

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/2184604/seagate-western-digital-wait-click-death/page/1?utm_source=Outbrain&utm_medium=Cpc&utm_campaign=Inquirer%252BReferral&WT.mc_is=977=obinsource

theoldtimer
01-06-2013, 06:28 PM
I hope it?s ok by UranusFX if I post some test results here in his thread? I hope the screen shots aren't to large.

I bought two of the Vectors at Micro Center on the 1st and I?ve been working with them for a few days now. I don?t usually do a lot of Disk (or in this case SSD) bench testing so I don?t really know the ins and outs of these bench tests.

I think the screen shots give most of the information about the system. The CPU is water cooled and the two Vector 256GB?s are on raid0 as a spare drive. These tests were in Server 08-R2 although I did test in Windows 7 64-bit earlier but the results were lower.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/theoldtimer/SSD%20tests/anvils08-server-1072215.png


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/theoldtimer/SSD%20tests/as-ssd-08-server-2468.png

B Gates
01-06-2013, 06:35 PM
WOW oldtimer! :shocked:

Zaxx
01-17-2013, 05:07 AM
very nice indeed...:eek:

A||uSiOn
01-21-2013, 07:19 PM
I have a big issue I think with these SSD's + LSi 2108 based cards

RAID Cards tested: LSi 9260-8i , M5015 with Fastpath Key and we also have in stock Intel RS2BL080.

Intel H77 + E3-1245 16GB Server
8 x 256GB Vectors in RAID 0 = 360mb/sec sequential read and write in Crystal Mark 3.02
Windows Servers 2008 R2

Dell PowerEdge R815 64 Bulldozer Cores Servers 256GB
8 x 256GB Vectors in RAID 0 = 760mb/sec sequential read and write in Crystal Mark 3.02
Windows Servers 2008 R2

I have flashed to latest bios and also all INF Chipset drivers updated. Clean OS installs on both

Any help on the matter would be appreciated or if anyone else has experienced this.

Regards
Pete

m.oreilly
01-22-2013, 09:07 AM
I hope it?s ok by UranusFX if I post some test results here in his thread? I hope the screen shots aren't to large.

I bought two of the Vectors at Micro Center on the 1st and I?ve been working with them for a few days now. I don?t usually do a lot of Disk (or in this case SSD) bench testing so I don?t really know the ins and outs of these bench tests.

I think the screen shots give most of the information about the system. The CPU is water cooled and the two Vector 256GB?s are on raid0 as a spare drive. These tests were in Server 08-R2 although I did test in Windows 7 64-bit earlier but the results were lower.
wow, super results for a non OS volume!!!
here are my recent results on an OS volume, x79/3930@ a lazy 4.8:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3123/2385.png

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1193/10197.png

theoldtimer
01-22-2013, 06:45 PM
wow, super results for a non OS volume!!!
here are my recent results on an OS volume, x79/3930@ a lazy 4.8:

Thanks.

Nice results that you posted.:up:

I have improved on my AS SSD bench results a little bit. I'm hunting for the keys to unlock a 2.5K result and I'm getting close but not quite there yet.:)

Kain665
01-23-2013, 03:30 PM
I have a big issue I think with these SSD's + LSi 2108 based cards

RAID Cards tested: LSi 9260-8i , M5015 with Fastpath Key and we also have in stock Intel RS2BL080.

Intel H77 + E3-1245 16GB Server
8 x 256GB Vectors in RAID 0 = 360mb/sec sequential read and write in Crystal Mark 3.02
Windows Servers 2008 R2

Dell PowerEdge R815 64 Bulldozer Cores Servers 256GB
8 x 256GB Vectors in RAID 0 = 760mb/sec sequential read and write in Crystal Mark 3.02
Windows Servers 2008 R2

I have flashed to latest bios and also all INF Chipset drivers updated. Clean OS installs on both

Any help on the matter would be appreciated or if anyone else has experienced this.

Regards
Pete

I've worked with 8 Vectors on a 9280 (Same 2108 controller) without issue. Perhaps it is the way you are setting up the Array? Stripe size? Cache?

B Gates
01-23-2013, 06:38 PM
Thanks.

Nice results that you posted.:up:

I have improved on my AS SSD bench results a little bit. I'm hunting for the keys to unlock a 2.5K result and I'm getting close but not quite there yet.:) I would like to see a pair of 840Pro's on your system Ive hit 10,900 ANVIL's with a pair of 128GB I bet you could hit 11,500

A||uSiOn
01-24-2013, 03:01 PM
I've worked with 8 Vectors on a 9280 (Same 2108 controller) without issue. Perhaps it is the way you are setting up the Array? Stripe size? Cache?

Do you mind listing what settings you used? Strip? Cache? policies?

Kain665
01-24-2013, 03:24 PM
I don't have it up and running right now, but I had a stripe size of 64k and all cache turned off.

theoldtimer
01-31-2013, 07:45 AM
Closer but not quite 2.5K in AS SSD. I pulled some old Gskill F3-1200CL6?s out of the old hardware box and gave them a shot at it.
I think with a little more tweaking they?ll give me what I?m after.:yepp:

Asus P8Z77-V (bios 1708 with OROM 11.6.0.1702)
3770K @5.1GHz water cooled
Gskill 2x2 F3 1200 CL6 @2400 9-10-8-24-1 air cooled
Samsung 840-128GB (boot drive) OS Server 08 R2
2X Vector 256GB Raid0 64K stripe

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/theoldtimer/SSD%20tests/disk-test8-anvil-as-ssd-multi-51-mem-2400-9-10-8-24-1-copy.jpg

Kain665
01-31-2013, 10:12 AM
Hey Oldtimer? Could you do a quick test run on just one drive on that system? :D

theoldtimer
01-31-2013, 06:34 PM
Hey Oldtimer? Could you do a quick test run on just one drive on that system? :D

I'll run some single Vector tests for you tomorrow Kain665. I ran a couple of single Vector tests this afternoon and the results were quite low. I need to sort out the intel driver it doesn't appear to be loading using a single Vector. It loads the MS driver. Sorry for the delay but I'd like to get it sorted before I post the results.

B Gates
02-01-2013, 08:02 AM
I'll run some single Vector tests for you tomorrow Kain665. I ran a couple of single Vector tests this afternoon and the results were quite low. I need to sort out the intel driver it doesn't appear to be loading using a single Vector. It loads the MS driver. Sorry for the delay but I'd like to get it sorted before I post the results. 11.6 is the best driver for single drives.

theoldtimer
02-01-2013, 06:38 PM
11.6 is the best driver for single drives.

Thanks B Gates, that saves me the time and trouble of testing several different versions.

I'm doing a fresh install of server 08 to clean it up a bit for the single Vector tests. In the other install of server 08 I never got the intel control center to load so I hope this clean install fixes that. I think the problem was net framework but I'm not sure.

I think Server 08 is very stable for testing but intel storage drivers has been a problem, at least for me. I do enjoy the bench testing though.:yepp:

B Gates
02-01-2013, 06:46 PM
Thanks B Gates, that saves me the time and trouble of testing several different versions.

I'm doing a fresh install of server 08 to clean it up a bit for the single Vector tests. In the other install of server 08 I never got the intel control center to load so I hope this clean install fixes that. I think the problem was net framework but I'm not sure.

I think Server 08 is very stable for testing but intel storage drivers has been a problem, at least for me. I do enjoy the bench testing though.:yepp: oldtimer you are a freaking benching guru! you are one of only 2 or 3 that have ever beaten my benches and you smashed mine. you are a genius and I bow to your greatness and superiority :yepp:

theoldtimer
02-03-2013, 07:52 PM
Single Vector tests

I tried a bunch of different things but I didn't find any combination that really worked all that well with the single drive. With the fresh install of Server 08 R2 I never really thought I had the cashe locked in. It didn't make any difference in the test results if the cashe was enabled or disabled. The write tests during the AS SSD tests would display high numbers but at the end of each write test the number would drop quite a bit so the total score suffered. I finally went back to the old beatup Server 08 install to get the results I posted.

They don't look all that great to me based on the Raid0 results.

B Gates I think you're the master of these SSD tests not myself and I'd say you should have these scores covered easily.:up:

These were very interesting tests for me because I learned something new and that makes it fun.:)

These were my best combined results (anvil/AS SSD).

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/theoldtimer/SSD%20tests/singlevectortest9Anvil-ASSSD_zpscd108b37.png

This was my best Anvil result

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/theoldtimer/SSD%20tests/singlevectorsparedriveserver08-Anvil-test5_zps7733b8f2.png

This was my best AS SSD result.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/theoldtimer/SSD%20tests/singlevectortest10ASSSD_zps54965574.png

I thought it may be of some use to test my everyday desktop with the one Vector as a OS drive in Windows 7 64 bit. All setting were at default no over clocking. All C states enabled as this is how I use my everyday desktop rigs.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/theoldtimer/SSD%20tests/singlevectorwin7defaultstests_zps19dcd00b.png

B Gates
02-03-2013, 08:11 PM
Oldtimer you are a guru. :) I don't have any Vectors any more and I only ran them a few times but doubt I could catch you even If I could have run them as much as I wanted. Right now I'm into 840 Pro's they are faster. I'm supposed to get a 512 and another 256. The 256 in raid should be pretty awesome.:D

theoldtimer
02-03-2013, 08:17 PM
Oldtimer you are a guru. :) I don't have any Vectors any more and I only ran them a few times but doubt I could catch you even If I could have run them as much as I wanted. Right now I'm into 840 Pro's they are faster. I'm supposed to get a 512 and another 256. The 256 in raid should be pretty awesome.:D

I almost went with the 840 pro 256's when I bought the Vectors but I really liked the Write speed of the Vectors. I'm looking forward to your 840 test results.:)

B Gates
02-03-2013, 08:20 PM
Vector 4K writes are unbelievable especially yours they are the best I've ever seen.