Figuring out G.Skill's SNs

[Don_Dan]

I thought it was about time to make a complete list of all the different codes G.Skill uses to mark different ICs and their manufacturers. A lot of valuable info is scattered over many different threads, I tried to collect as much info as I could, please feel free to add more numbers or dispute what I wrote! ;)

Let's start:

G.Skill serial numbers always start with the year and week, for example 913 is the 13th week of 2009 while 1240 is the 40th week of 2012. Pretty straightforward. :)

After that there are four digits which stand for different ICs/manufacturers (the meaning of a letter (C, G, L, M, P) instead of a 0 in the fourth position is unknown at this point):

0000 - Review/Test sample (no IC specified)
01xx - Micron
0140
0150
0160
02xx - Hynix
0230
0240
0260
03xx - Samsung
0340/034P
0360
05xx - ??
0511
06xx - Elpida
0640/064L/064M
0650
0660/066L
0690 (MxH-E Hyper on kits with typical Hyper specs (Perfect Storm 2000 7-8-7-20 or 2200 8-8-8-24), on other kits it might be BBSE/EBSE)
07xx - Elixir (/Nanya)
0740
08xx - Nanya (sometimes eTT/uTT)
0840
0850
0860
09xx - ProMOS eTT/uTT
0900
0940/094G
10xx - Powerchip/PSC
1030
1040/104G/104L/104P
11xx - SpecTek (/Micron)
1120
1140
12xx - Qimonda/Aeneon (sometimes eTT/uTT)
1240/124M
1250/125M
1260
13xx - ?? (possibly blank IC)
1340
14xx - ??
144C

Since April 2012 G.Skill is using new numbers:

AB40 - Samsung/Hynix (seems to be both, only used for a short time in April 2012 (week 17 2012), mainly seen on Trident X 2400 CL10 kits where it is used for Samsung 4Gb B-Die)
000x - Hynix? (only on samples?)
0000
HA20 - unknown

x1xx - Nanya eTT/uTT
DDR1 only?: 6100
DDR3 only?: 2100/210L/210X/2150/215C
x2xx - Powerchip/PSC (sometimes eTT/uTT)
DDR3 only?: 1200
x3xx - Micron
DDR4 only?: 3300
x4xx - Hynix
DDR3 only?: 1400/14HL/2400
DDR4 only?: 3400/A400/B400/A4HT
x5xx - Samsung
DDR3 only?: 1500/2500/250B
DDR4 only?: A500
x6xx - SpecTek (/Micron)
DDR3 only?: 1600
DDR4 only?: B600
x7xx - ??
DDR3 only?: 1700
x8xx - Elpida
DDR3 only?: 0800/1800
DDR3 only?: 3800 MxH-E Hyper (possibly same situation like 0690 in old scheme)
x9xx - Elixir
DDR3 only?: 29B0

The first digit of the new serial numbers and the last two digits of the old serial numbers might indicate the speed bin originally assigned by the IC manufacturer.

These four digits are followed by six (on DDR4 from 2016/2017 seven) more digits which seem to be consecutive numbers assigned to each kit.

This is it for now! :)

Of course credit for this goes to many people like Tapakah (http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=6362), stunned_guy (http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f13/g-skill-ddr3-ic-sammelthread-924433.html) and many more! :)

If you need any more info about a specific memory kit, please visit the RAMlist at i4memory (http://ramlist.i4memory.com/).


Since August 2017 G.Skill is using new codes that indicate the IC:

Samsung
DDR3:
03133R2810C = Samsung 2Gb C-die
03133X2810P = Samsung 2Gb P-die
03133X28109 = unknown
03160R4810B = Samsung 4Gb B-die
03160R4410E = Samsung 4Gb E-die (x4 organization)
03160R4410Q = Samsung 4Gb Q-die (x4 organization)
03160M4810Q = Samsung 4Gb Q-die
03160R4810Q = Samsung 4Gb Q-die
03160R4410Q = Samsung 4Gb Q-die (x4 organization)
DDR4:
04240X4810D = Samsung 4Gb D-die
04213X4810E = Samsung 4Gb E-die (DDR4-2133)
04240M4810E = Samsung 4Gb E-die (DDR4-2400)
04266X4810F = Samsung 4Gb F-die
04213X48109 = unknown
04213X8810B = Samsung 8Gb B-die
O4213X8810B = Samsung 8Gb B-die
04240M8410C = Samsung 8Gb C-die (DDR4-2400)
04266M8410C = Samsung 8Gb C-die (DDR4-2666)
04240M8810C = Samsung 8Gb C-die
04320X8810D = Samsung 8Gb D-die
04320X8811E = Samsung 8Gb E-die
04320MS410A = Samsung 16Gb A-die

Hynix
DDR2:
02080R1820C = Hynix 1Gb CFP
DDR3:
03160R4420M = Hynix 4Gb MFR
03133X4821B = Hynix 4Gb BFR
DDR4:
04213X4820A = Hynix 4Gb AFR
04240X4820B = Hynix 4Gb BJR
04240H48211 = Hynix 4Gb 1JR
04213X8821M = Hynix 8Gb M
04346R8823M = Hynix 8Gb M
04240R8823A = Hynix 8Gb AJR
04213X8821A = Hynix 8Gb AJR
04213X8821C = Hynix 8Gb CJR
04213X8821D = Hynix 8Gb DJR
04213X8825J = Hynix 8Gb JJR
04266X8820J = Hynix 8Gb JJR
L4240X88209 = Hynix 8Gb ?
04320X8820C = possibly mislabeled 16Gb CJR
04xxxx882x1= Hynix 8Gb 1JR (suspected cut down of 16Gb AJR)
04320H88272 = Hynix 8Gb 2JR (suspected cut down of 16Gb CJR)
T4320H88272 = Hynix 8Gb 2JR (suspected cut down of 16Gb CJR)
04266XS820M = Hynix 16Gb MJR
04320XS825A = Hynix 16Gb AJR
04320XS826A = Hynix 16Gb AJR
04213XS820C = Hynix 16Gb CJR
04240BS821C = Hynix 16Gb CJR
L4240RS821C = Hynix 16Gb CJR
04240RS821C = Hynix 16Gb CJR
04320XS820C = Hynix 16Gb CJR

Micron/SpecTek
DDR4:
04240H4833A = Micron 4Gb A-die
04440X8833B = Micron 8Gb E-die (design ID Z11B)
L4320XS833B = Micron 16Gb B-die
04440XS833A = Micron 16Gb B-die (design ID Z22A)

Elpida & Powerchip/PSC
DDR2:
02080R1840F = Elpida 1Gb AFBG (1Gb F-die)
DDR3:
03133X1841D = PSC 1Gb D-die
03133X2841C = PSC 2Gb C-die
03133X18419 = unknown
03133R2840C = Elpida 2Gb ECSE (2Gb C-die)
03133R4840A = Elpida 4Gb EASE (4Gb A-die)
DDR4:
04213X4841A = PSC 4Gb A-die

Nanya
DDR3:
03133R2850G = Nanya 2Gb G-die
DDR4:
04320H4850C = Nanya 4Gb C-die
04320X8850C = Nanya 8Gb C-die

?
DDR1:
01040MB8909 = ?

The first two digits stand for the memory type, DDR3 (03) or DDR4 (04). The meaning of 'L' instead of '0' is unknown. The next three digits probably indicate the JEDEC spec (133 = DDR3-1333, 160 = DDR3-1600, 213 = DDR4-2133, 240 = DDR4-2400, 266 = DDR4-2666, for Micron chips the factory bin has also been seen 440 = DDR4-4400). The meaning of the 6th digit is unknown at this point. The 7th digit indicates IC density (4 = 4Gbit, 8 = 8Gbit, S = 16Gbit) and the 8th digit might indicate organization (usually 8 = x8 or 4 = x4). The 9th digit indicates the IC manufacturer (1 = Samsung, 2 = Hynix, 3 = Micron/SpecTek, 4 = Elpida ("40") AND Powerchip Semiconductor Corp. ("41"), 5 = Nanya) and the 11th digit indicates the die revision (B = B-die etc.) or the design ID for some Micron chips. The meaning of the 10 digit is still unknown.

Thank you to Mickulty for the first info about the new system.


Since the release of DDR5 in 2021 G.Skill is using an adapted version of the one above:

Samsung:
DDR5:
0M48AXS810B = Samsung 16Gb B-die
0M48KRS810B = Samsung 16Gb B-die
0R48AXS810B = Samsung 16Gb B-die

Hynix
DDR5:
0R48KH8821A = Hynix 8Gb A-die? (cut down from 16Gb A-die?)
0R48KXS820M = Hynix 16Gb M-die
0T56KXS820A = Hynix 16Gb A-die
LT64AXR820M = Hynix 24Gb M-die

Micron/SpecTek
DDR5:
0R48RXS830A = Micron 16Gb A-die
0T56AXR833A = Micron 24Gb A-die

The meaning of the first two digits is unknown (0M, 0R). The next two digits probably indicate the JEDEC spec (48 = DDR5-4800, 56 = DDR5-5600), while the meaning of the 5th and 6th digit is unknown. The 7th digit indicates IC density (S = 16Gbit, R = 24Gbit) like above and the 8th digit might indicate organization (usually 8 = x8 or 4 = x4). The 9th digit indicates the IC manufacturer (1 = Samsung, 2 = Hynix, 3 = Micron/SpecTek?) and the 11th digit indicates the die revision (B = B-die, M = M-die etc.). The meaning of the 10 digit is still unknown.


Edit 02.11.12: I've added some info from OCX (http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=89346&postcount=7), I see Tapakah has updated his thread tonight as well. ^^
Edit 18.11.12: Update for x100 and x600
Edit 20.11.12: Update for 2100, added 0800
Edit 21.11.12: Decided to put 2100 and 2150 into different categories
Edit 08.12.12: Update for 1240 -> Qimonda
Edit 16.12.12: Small corrections
Edit 22.01.13: Added 1340 -> ProMOS, 09xx changed to "no idea"
Edit 09.03.13: Added 3800 -> Elpida MxH-E Hyper
Edit 25.03.13: Added 0940 -> PSC eTT/uTT
Edit 12.04.14: Added 0690 -> EBSE
Edit 31.05.14: Fourth spot changed to variable
Edit 16.09.14: Added 0150 -> Only D9GTR? (1600 7-7-7 @ 1.9V kits)
Edit 06.10.14: Added 3400 -> DDR4 only so far, marked in italic
Edit 17.11.14: Added 3300 -> DDR4 only so far, marked in italic, seen on F4-2400C15Q-16GRB (http://www.eteknix.com/g-skill-16gb-2400mhz-ripjaws-4-quad-channel-ddr4-memory-kit-review/) kit
Edit 12.10.20: Clarified 0690 -> not always MxH-E Hyper, added new DDR4 scheme
Edit 20.01.21: Added example for new scheme for DDR3
Edit 17.05.21: Changed 09xx to ProMOS, thanks @redux, 13xx changed to "no idea"
Edit 01.06.21: Added 144C -> "no idea", seen on Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL, 1207144C180xxx
Edit 29.06.21: Added 14H0 and 03160R4420M, added B400 on DDR4, added 2150 to Nanya, changed x10x to x1xx, added DDR2 0511, 0900 and 0230
Edit 18.07.21: Added 6100, seen on a kit of F1-3200PHU2-2GBNS from Jan 2014
Edit 20.09.21: Added 03133X1841D, seen on a kit of F3-12800CL7D-4GBPI-B and F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS from 2018, added 04213X8825J, 04213X8821A and 04266M8410C seen on Aegis kits, added 04240H4833A seen on F4-2400C15D-8GNT
Edit 28.11.21: Added 04213X8821M, seen on a kit of F4-3200C16D-32GVK, added 04240BS821C seen on a kit of F4-4400C19D-32GVK
Edit 21.01.22: Correction for 0650 - BBSE Elpida
Edit 04.08.22: Added 03160M4810Q, seen on a F3-2133C9D-8GAB kit from November 2017
Edit 05.08.22: Added 0M48KRS810B, seen on F5-6000U3636E16GX2-TZ5S from week 41 2021 and 0M48AXS810B, seen on F5-6000J4040F16GX2-TZ5S from week 03 2022
Edit 06.10.22: Added 04320XS826A, seen on F4-4800C20D-32GTES from week 25 2021
Edit 11.10.22: Added Added 14HL seen on F3-1600C11S-4GIS from week 03 2015, also added 064M & 066L, 124M & 125M as variants for Elpida or Qimonda
Edit 12.10.22: Added 104G seen on F3-17000CL9D-4GBXL from week 43 2011, 1143104G139598
Edit 13.10.22: Added 0R48AXS810B seen on F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RS from week 03 2022, added 0R48KXS820M seen on F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RS from week 17 2022, formatting
Edit 17.10.22: Added L4240RS821C seen on F4-4400C19D-32GTZR from week 25 2022
Edit 19.10.22: Added 0T56KXS820A seen on F5-6600J3440G16GA2-TZ5RK from week 37 2022
Edit 14.12.22: Added 04213X4841A seen on F4-2133C15S-4GNT from week 31 2018, added 03160R4810Q seen on F3-2400C10D-16GTX from week 49 2021, added 034P seen on F3-2400C10D-8GZH from week 16 2012 (April 2012, old scheme), added 04320MS410A seen on F4-2666C19D-64GVK from week 39 2022, added L4320XS833B seen on F4-3600C19D-32GTRG from week 35 2022 and added 0R48RXS830A seen on F5-5200U4040A16GX2-RS5K from week 41 2021 (Micron Z9ZSB)
Edit 05.02.23: Added 04320X8820C seen on F4-4400C19D-32GVK from week 40 2022 (16GB SR modules), added 210L seen on F3-1866C9D-16GSR from week 26 2015, added 04320X8850C seen on F4-3200C16D-32GVK, added 04440XS833A seen on F4-3600C16D-32GVKC from week 02 2023 (C9BLJ, CPG marking, design ID Z22A, DDR4-4400 factory bin), added 04440X8833B seen on F4-3600C16D-16GVKC from week 05 2023 (C9BLM, CPG marking, design ID Z11B, DDR4-4400 factory bin)
Edit 07.02.23: Added 04320X8810D seen on F4-3600C19D-16GSXKB from week 42 2022
Edit 05.03.23: Added 03160R4810B seen on F3-2400C10Q-32GTX from week 18 2018, added 104P seen on F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD from week 13 2010 and week 29 2010, added 1700 seen on F3-10600CL9D-2GBNQ from week 39 2012, added 0850 seen on F3-12800CL8D-2GBTD from week 10 2010
Edit 26.04.23: Added 04240R8823A seen on F4-3000C16D-16GISB from week 50 2018, added LT64AXR820M seen on F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RS from week 14 2023, added 29B0 seen on F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL from week 43 2015
Edit 18.06.23: Added A4HT seen on F4-2400C15D-16GTZR from week 10 2017, added 04320XS825A seen on F4-3200C16D-32GVK from week 31 2022, added 04320H88272 seen on F4-3200C16D-32Gxx from ?? and F4-3600C18D-32GVK from week 16 2023, added 0T56AXR833A seen on F5-6000J4048F24GX2-RS5K from week 29 2023
Edit 04.10.23: Added A400 seen on F4-2400C15D-16GVR from week 05 2016, added 04320H4850C seen on F4-3200C16D-8GRB from week 52 2022
Edit 05.11.23: Added HA20 seen on F3-10600CL9S-2GBNS from week 17 2014, added 04213XS820C seen on F4-3600C16D-64GTZR from week 36 2023, added 04320XS820C seen on F4-3600C16D-64GTZR from week 48 2021, added 04240RS821C seen on F4-4000C18D-32GTZN from week 44 2021, added 03133X4821B seen on F3-2133C10D-8GSR from week 48 2018 and added 03160R4410Q seen on F3-2400C11D-16GXM from week 24 2023
Edit 12.11.23: Added 03133X28109 seen on F3-10666CL7T-6GBPK from week 07 2019 and added 03133X1841D seen on Eco DDR3-1600 CL7
Edit 21.01.24: Added 04213X48109 seen on F4-2666C15D-8GVR from week 28 2019 and seen on F4-3866C18D-8GVK from week 10 2022, added T4320H88272 seen on F4-3600C18D-16GTZR from week 26 2023, added 215C seen on F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL from week 24 2013, added 0R48KH8821A seen on F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N from week 44 2023, added 04266X4810F seen on F4-2133C15S-4GNT from week 49 2022, added 04346R8823M seen on F4-2400C17S-16GIS from week 46 2018, added 03133R2840C seen on F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT from week 44 2018, added 02080R1820C seen on F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ from week 03 2018, added 02080R1840F seen on F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ from week 01 2018, added 03133R4840A seen on F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL from week 08 2019 and added 03133R2810C seen on F3-10600CL9S-4GBNT from week 38 2019
Edit 28.01.24: Added 03133R2850G seen on F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ from week 10 2019 and added 03160R4410E seen on F3-1600C11D-16GIS from week 50 2023
Edit 20.04.24: Added 210X seen on F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR from week 42 2013 (Nanya 2Gb G-die), added L4240X88209 seen on F4-3200C16D-16GTZKO from week 46 2017, added 01040MB8909 seen on F1-3200PHU1-1GBNT from week 10 2018, added 04320X8811E seen on F4-3600C18D-16GVK from week 44 2023, added 03133X2841C seen on F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT from week 32 2023, added O4213X8810B seen on F4-3866C18Q-32GTZR from week 33 2017 and added 03160R4410Q seen on F4-2400C10D-8GTX from week 44 2022

[websmile]

Good to see this information now also available on XS, nice work, Dan :)

[Don_Dan]

Good to see this information now also available on XS, nice work, Dan :)

Thanks mate! :)

[basco]

thanks very much

[Leeghoofd]

I hate to say it, but good job Daniel :p

[Reefa_Madness]

Very useful and now it is bookmarked. Thanks.

[Don_Dan]

thanks very much


Very useful and now it is bookmarked. Thanks.

You're welcome! :)


I hate to say it, but good job Daniel :p

Thanks Alby ( a.k.a. old man )! :p:

[Shiranui Gen-An]

New kit Trident X 2666C10 Samsung based:

http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/hotline/20121027/image/io26gs2.jpg

[Don_Dan]

New kit Trident X 2666C10 Samsung based:

Thanks for the post!

[SonDa5]

New kit Trident X 2666C10 Samsung based:





Newegg has them for $180. Seems kind of pricey for 8gb or RAM. What are they capable of as far as over clocking is concerned?


Slightly slower CL 11 2666mhz kit can be had for around $120.

The cheapy Sammy 8GB kits can be had for $40.


What makes these so special?

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Newegg has them for $180. Seems kind of pricey for 8gb or RAM. What are they capable of as far as over clocking is concerned?


Slightly slower CL 11 2666mhz kit can be had for around $120.

The cheapy Sammy 8GB kits can be had for $40.


What makes these so special?

If the Dominator Platinum 2666C10 sticks are any indication, A LOT.

[felix_w]

What is it, DS or SS ?

[Reefa_Madness]

New kit Trident X 2666C10 Samsung based:

http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/hotline/20121027/image/io26gs2.jpg

But which Sammies? Weren't there some kits found that were sporting HYK0 chips, instead of HCH9?

[Don_Dan]

What is it, DS or SS ?

The kit must be double-sided, Samsung 4Gb ICs can't do those clocks.


But which Sammies? Weren't there some kits found that were sporting HYK0 chips, instead of HCH9?

I think there's no way to determine which ICs are used without removing the heatspreader. In my opinion it doesn't matter anyway, we know it must be some kind of Samsung 2Gb D-rev chip, after binning is done by G.Skill the difference between HCH9 and HCK0 should be negligible.

[Alex-Ro]

Whats the next rev after d?20nm chips from samsung should be extremely interesting,wonder when they show up....

[Reefa_Madness]

I think there's no way to determine which ICs are used without removing the heatspreader. In my opinion it doesn't matter anyway, we know it must be some kind of Samsung 2Gb D-rev chip, after binning is done by G.Skill the difference between HCH9 and HCK0 should be negligible.

I respectfully disagree with you, my young friend, as to it not mattering. It does to me.

I'm have a pretty good idea as to what HCH9 chips can do at various voltages. The experience with HCK0 is pretty restricted, mostly to Samsung generic, so we don't really know whether they have been limited by such things as the layout of the PCB used by Samsung on the LV / LP modules, or whether they don't clock as high, but if you sample results from known HCH9 based stuff, compared to known HCK0 the odds are that the former will best the latter. For the same dollars I'd rather get HCH9 in my modules.

[Zeus]

Please allow me to add some confusion Daniel:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/computer/RipjawsX_zps1fac7758.jpg

Pretty sure it's some sort of Samsung chip:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/computer/RipjawsXchip_zps5f080ea8.jpg

Sorry for messing things up, i think Gskill is to blame. :D

[Reefa_Madness]

i think Gskill is to blame

Without a doubt.

[Alex-Ro]

Please allow me to add some confusion Daniel:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/computer/RipjawsX_zps1fac7758.jpg

Pretty sure it's some sort of Samsung chip:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/computer/RipjawsXchip_zps5f080ea8.jpg

Sorry for messing things up, i think Gskill is to blame. :D

how do they clock,single or double-sided?

[Don_Dan]

Whats the next rev after d?20nm chips from samsung should be extremely interesting,wonder when they show up....

K4B2G0846E is already listed on Samsung's site as "MassProduction", but I haven't seen these chips yet.


I respectfully disagree with you, my young friend, as to it not mattering. It does to me.

I'm have a pretty good idea as to what HCH9 chips can do at various voltages. The experience with HCK0 is pretty restricted, mostly to Samsung generic, so we don't really know whether they have been limited by such things as the layout of the PCB used by Samsung on the LV / LP modules, or whether they don't clock as high, but if you sample results from known HCH9 based stuff, compared to known HCK0 the odds are that the former will best the latter. For the same dollars I'd rather get HCH9 in my modules.

Well, I agree with you that the data about HYK0 is pretty limited because most people test their Samsung LV/LP modules for energy saving settings at low volts, but I've seen some binned modules do very well at higher voltages. Please check this thread (http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f13/samsung-green-mv-3v4g3d-ddr3l-1600-cl11-11-11-28-lp-oc-geheimtip-890763.html). You can see that the best modules are comparable to the Samsung value sticks with HCH9 we have seen. I don't think I'd prefer HCH9 over HYK0, but we might see more HCH9 just because they're cheaper. Another problem might be that most people don't bother to remove the heatspreader, for them it's good enough to know they have Samsung chips, so our data is limited on that side as well.


Please allow me to add some confusion Daniel:

Pretty sure it's some sort of Samsung chip:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/computer/RipjawsXchip_zps5f080ea8.jpg

Sorry for messing things up, i think Gskill is to blame. :D

Great, of course they look entirely different than the chips on "2100"! :ROTF:

http://www.abload.de/img/ripjawsxf3-1600c9s-8gwhrmy.jpg

I have the same question as Alex, double-sided or single-sided? I have never seen those chips to be honest... Can you tell me their size? And maybe some OC results?

[Reefa_Madness]

Well, I agree with you that the data about HYK0 is pretty limited because most people test their Samsung LV/LP modules for energy saving settings at low volts, but I've seen some binned modules do very well at higher voltages. Please check this thread. You can see that the best modules are comparable to the Samsung value sticks with HCH9 we have seen. I don't think I'd prefer HCH9 over HYK0, but we might see more HCH9 just because they're cheaper. Another problem might be that most people don't bother to remove the heatspreader, for them it's good enough to know they have Samsung chips, so our data is limited on that side as well.

HCH9 is cheaper than HYK0? Maybe for you, but not here. The generic HCH9 stuff sells for about the same price, or a few more $ (US) here than the HYK0 Samsung LV stuff. The HYK0 based Greens were recently on sale for $36 shipped per 2x4GB kit at the egg, or individually for $17 per module. The generic HCH9 sells for about $22 per module, plus shipping at the only two places that I know it can be had.

As for preferences, I still believe that as a general rule your chances of higher clocks are with the HCH9. Not saying that there isn't HYK0 that clocks good, just that in my mind I think the odds are better with HCH9. If GSkills and others start binning HYK0 and begin to mass produce high-end modules with them (not just a few here and there), then I won't be too proud to admit I was wrong. At my age I've had plenty of practice at admiting I had it wrong. :)

[XBrytanX]

I'm with you on this one and that's why i don't own single HYK0 ,HCH9 is what rides in high-end sets

[Reefa_Madness]

I guess that these types of discussions and opinions are probably best left for another thread, as there is no need to clutter this one up with what amounts to personal preferences, so I will do my part and refrain from making any more editorials...or at least I'll try real hard.

[stunned_guy]

Got TridentX 8Gx2 F3-2400C10D-16GTX with 12451500..... and RipJawsZ 8Gx2 F3-2133C11D-16GZL with 12341500.....
Will look after ic next day.

[Zeus]

Daniel, The sticks are double sided and do 2000 C9 but there's no scaling after that. In other words: it's cr@p. :D For dimensions of the chip i'm gonna have to pull the spreaders again. I will if you insist though. ;)

[stunned_guy]

Samsung HCH9 at F3-2400C10D-16GTX double sided

http://www.abload.de/thumb/tridentxf3-2400c10d-12fps3.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=tridentxf3-2400c10d-12fps3.jpg)

more about g.skill ic detection --> http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f13/g-skill-ddr3-ic-sammelthread-924433.html#l

[Don_Dan]

HCH9 is cheaper than HYK0? Maybe for you, but not here. The generic HCH9 stuff sells for about the same price, or a few more $ (US) here than the HYK0 Samsung LV stuff. The HYK0 based Greens were recently on sale for $36 shipped per 2x4GB kit at the egg, or individually for $17 per module. The generic HCH9 sells for about $22 per module, plus shipping at the only two places that I know it can be had.

As for preferences, I still believe that as a general rule your chances of higher clocks are with the HCH9. Not saying that there isn't HYK0 that clocks good, just that in my mind I think the odds are better with HCH9. If GSkills and others start binning HYK0 and begin to mass produce high-end modules with them (not just a few here and there), then I won't be too proud to admit I was wrong. At my age I've had plenty of practice at admiting I had it wrong. :)


I'm with you on this one and that's why i don't own single HYK0 ,HCH9 is what rides in high-end sets


I guess that these types of discussions and opinions are probably best left for another thread, as there is no need to clutter this one up with what amounts to personal preferences, so I will do my part and refrain from making any more editorials...or at least I'll try real hard.

You're more than welcome to discuss it in this thread! ;)

Those LV/LP sticks are a lot more expensive than the generic HCH9 modules in Germany, in fact you can almost get the 2400CL9 kits for the price of the LV/LP sticks... I'll keep my eyes peeled for whatever pops up in new kits! :D


Daniel, The sticks are double sided and do 2000 C9 but there's no scaling after that. In other words: it's cr@p. :D For dimensions of the chip i'm gonna have to pull the spreaders again. I will if you insist though. ;)

That's worse than old HCF0 chips on Z77...
It would be really really nice if you checked the dimensions... :D


Samsung HCH9 at F3-2400C10D-16GTX double sided

more about g.skill ic detection --> http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f13/g-skill-ddr3-ic-sammelthread-924433.html#l

Thanks for the pic, after seeing your kit and SonDa5's 2400CL9 kit it looks like G.Skill gave up on remarking the ICs... :rofl:

I already linked your thread in the first post! ;)

[stunned_guy]

Got some more sticks with different ic:

F3-10600CL9S-4GBNT -> ...1600... -> Spectec
F3-10600CL9S-2GBNT -> ...2150... -> labelt ic - in the middle of the ic on the right side is -151C to see ??? its not Elpida
F3-10600CL9S-2GBNS -> ...1800... -> Elpida
F3-1600C11S-4GBNT -> ...1800... -> Elpida
F3-8500CL7D-2GBNQ -> ...0800... -> Elpida ???

more to see with pictures the next days ;)

[stunned_guy]

Here we got :D

http://www.abload.de/thumb/f3-10600cl9s-4gbnt1-3j5a1u.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=f3-10600cl9s-4gbnt1-3j5a1u.jpg)

1.05 x 0.80 cm

Is Spectec a own brand or also relabelt ?

[Don_Dan]

Thanks for the info!
SpecTek is owned by Micron, I thought they made their own chips but it's possible they are just selling off Micron eTT/uTT Chips under the SpecTek brand, which means every SpecTek chip would have an identical Micron counterpart. It might be interesting to check the dimensions of a confirmed Micron 2Gb IC to the SpecTek IC you have.

Please check the "2150" kit next! ;)

[stunned_guy]

Its no kit its an single stick of 2 gb.

EC1GB084CA4
1234 161C
ELF468ADP

http://www.abload.de/thumb/f3-10600cl9s-2gbnt1-39roix.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=f3-10600cl9s-2gbnt1-39roix.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/f3-10600cl9s-2gbnt1-2eaofu.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=f3-10600cl9s-2gbnt1-2eaofu.jpg)

1.10 x 0.75 cm

Anybody knows the ic ???

[Don_Dan]

Its no kit its an single stick of 2 gb.

EC1GB084CA4
1234 161C
ELF468ADP

Anybody knows the ic ???

It looks like the same IC as on Zeus' 2150 kit:

EC1GB084CA4
1215 -16IC
ELAJ3385C

Now we have 2 different 2GB sticks with this kind of chip, one rated for 1333 9-9-9-24 1.5V and one for 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V.
Did you test your stick?

[gungstar]

Its no kit its an single stick of 2 gb.

EC1GB084CA4
1234 161C
ELF468ADP

http://www.abload.de/thumb/f3-10600cl9s-2gbnt1-39roix.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=f3-10600cl9s-2gbnt1-39roix.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/f3-10600cl9s-2gbnt1-2eaofu.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=f3-10600cl9s-2gbnt1-2eaofu.jpg)

1.10 x 0.75 cm

Anybody knows the ic ???
looks very similar to samsung marking

[Reefa_Madness]

Those LV/LP sticks are a lot more expensive than the generic HCH9 modules in Germany, in fact you can almost get the 2400CL9 kits for the price of the LV/LP sticks... I'll keep my eyes peeled for whatever pops up in new kits!

The Samsung HYK0s were found by ihog6hog to be in the newer (Nov 2012) GSkill DDR3-2666 CL10 2x4GB kits with IC numbers "2500".

Link to pic:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?283863-G.skill-f3-2666c10d-8gtxd&p=5153641&viewfull=1#post5153641

Early samples of these sticks are clocking real well, so I may have to re-evaluate my opinion about the merits of HYK0. Perhaps well-binned ICs on quality PCB does make this a worthy alternative to HCH9 based stuff.

Daniel, looks like you may be right about HYK0, afterall.

[stunned_guy]

@ dan
No tests. I will look for the ic only. :(

I found some old Elpida BASE -AE -E, they looks very similar to the old DDR2 Elpida IC.
http://www.abload.de/thumb/f3-8500cl7d-2gbnq1-341jsv.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=f3-8500cl7d-2gbnq1-341jsv.jpg)

[Don_Dan]

looks very similar to samsung marking

That's what Zeus though as well, and I agree, the lower part of the marking ( the serial number probably ) looks like the one found on Samsung ICs and it has the same amount of digits too. If it's really Samsung it could be K4B1G0846F or K4B1G0846G. I haven't seen either of the two yet, so I don't know about their size or how they clock.


The Samsung HYK0s were found by ihog6hog to be in the newer (Nov 2012) GSkill DDR3-2666 CL10 2x4GB kits with IC numbers "2500".

Link to pic:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?283863-G.skill-f3-2666c10d-8gtxd&p=5153641&viewfull=1#post5153641

Early samples of these sticks are clocking real well, so I may have to re-evaluate my opinion about the merits of HYK0. Perhaps well-binned ICs on quality PCB does make this a worthy alternative to HCH9 based stuff.

Daniel, looks like you may be right about HYK0, afterall.

We'll see, but I must say I'm not surprised, the difference shouldn't be big among the different K4B2G0846D ICs, in the end it probably comes down to the binning of the individual stick. If you buy the 2666 CL10 bin you can be sure it's the best of the best, no matter if it's HCH9 or HYK0. :)

I'm trying to figure out the difference between 1500 and 2500, or 0x00, 1x00 and 2x00 in general, but so far I don't have an idea. At first I thought it might refer to the number of sticks in the kit or if it's a single stick sold separately, but after looking at a few pics it turned out to be wrong. :shrug:


@ dan
No tests. I will look for the ic only. :(

I found some old Elpida BASE -AE -E, they looks very similar to the old DDR2 Elpida IC.

Okay. :(

Same generation as MNH/MGH-E Hyper, unfortunately those don't clock like them. :D
I've added 0800 to the list. Thanks!


Another issue: Do 2100 and 2150 belong together in the x1x0 category or should I put 2100 in x100 and 2150 in x150? :confused:
They are different ICs, so probably different categories.

[Dumo]

Any info of this Trident 2133 10090650xxxxxx blue pcb? Its probly elpida but not the same clocking like bbse.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7484/screenshot102z.png

Hole on top of sink (probly for pot)

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3331/screenshot103fw.png

[C-N]

Any info of this Trident 2133 10090650xxxxxx blue pcb?

Never seen such a beast in the wild but could be BDSE going by the 1009....

[stunned_guy]

Blue pcb is with nanya IC only ;) Never saw this on DDR3 but most on DDR2.

[Reefa_Madness]

From the OP:

x400 - Hynix
1400/2400



I'm trying to figure out the difference between 1500 and 2500, or 0x00, 1x00 and 2x00 in general, but so far I don't have an idea. At first I thought it might refer to the number of sticks in the kit or if it's a single stick sold separately, but after looking at a few pics it turned out to be wrong.

In this thread there are pics of the GSkill DDR3-2666 CL11 labels. Both appear to be double-sided Hynix based.

One is a quad kit with the "2400" number is the 5th-8th and the other is a dual kit with the "1400" numbering sequence. I think that your initial thought that it had something to do with the number of sticks might be right after all, at least with respect to the "1" or "2" digit. Makes me wonder if those "0000" we saw with the early Tridents were cherry-picked review samples and as such, did not have normal production numbers.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280404-G.Skill-TridentX-F3-2666C11D-8GTXD-DDR3-2666-Preview/page10

[websmile]

I had 2000 c9 trident with blue pcb(0650)and 2133 quad kit with green(0640) - the blue 2000c9 as well as the "normal" 2133 clocked like bbse... needed lots of voltage but had trcd limits that were above average, 2133 7-9-7-21 went on all at around 1,65v, 2250 needed around 1,72v on extra tight subs on sb - on cold went way above 1250 7-9-7 and 8-9-7 on later owner who used them on LN2 for benching. BDSE might be an educated guess, but never saw these ics do well, 2133 was nearly always no go for bdse at trcd9.
@stunned guy - oem elpida with bbse use blue pcb... - and 0650 on old gskill sns is elpida as you know

[Dumo]

Thanks for info Websmile:up:

It just won't do Cas8

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7585/screenshot116bm.png

[Don_Dan]

Any info of this Trident 2133 10090650xxxxxx blue pcb? Its probly elpida but not the same clocking like bbse.

Hole on top of sink (probly for pot)

All the Trident 2133 I have seen were BBSE, mine are 0640 with green PCB. There might be a theoretical chance for Hyper, but since the blue PCB was used by Elpida for all the OEM BBSE sticks I think this is BBSE as well. I've already seen a few G.Skill sticks with blue PCB ( 1600C7 1GB (http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=90165&postcount=2), 2000C9 1GB (http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m139/Child-of-bodom/P1010111.jpg) & 2GB ) and all of them were BBSE. I can take a pic of my Elpida OEM sticks and we can compare the PCBs if you want.
How do these clock?


Never seen such a beast in the wild but could be BDSE going by the 1009....

BDSE is worse than BDBG, I'm 90% sure BDSE can't do tRCD 9 at 1066MHz.


Blue pcb is with nanya IC only ;) Never saw this on DDR3 but most on DDR2.

That's not true, 06x0 indicated Elpida and Elpida and used blue PCBs for all their OEM BBSE sticks (http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=90166&postcount=3). I have 4 1GB sticks with the blue PCB as well, I can show a pic on Saturday.


I had 2000 c9 trident with blue pcb(0650)and 2133 quad kit with green(0640) - the blue 2000c9 as well as the "normal" 2133 clocked like bbse... needed lots of voltage but had trcd limits that were above average, 2133 7-9-7-21 went on all at around 1,65v, 2250 needed around 1,72v on extra tight subs on sb - on cold went way above 1250 7-9-7 and 8-9-7 on later owner who used them on LN2 for benching. BDSE might be an educated guess, but never saw these ics do well, 2133 was nearly always no go for bdse at trcd9.
@stunned guy - oem elpida with bbse use blue pcb... - and 0650 on old gskill sns is elpida as you know

Yep! :yepp:


From the OP:




In this thread there are pics of the GSkill DDR3-2666 CL11 labels. Both appear to be double-sided Hynix based.

One is a quad kit with the "2400" number is the 5th-8th and the other is a dual kit with the "1400" numbering sequence. I think that your initial thought that it had something to do with the number of sticks might be right after all, at least with respect to the "1" or "2" digit. Makes me wonder if those "0000" we saw with the early Tridents were cherry-picked review samples and as such, did not have normal production numbers.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280404-G.Skill-TridentX-F3-2666C11D-8GTXD-DDR3-2666-Preview/page10

I've excluded 0000 and AB40 from the new list, as they were only used on certain sticks and for a very short time.

Take a look at the pics ihog6hog posted (http://i4memory.com/159087-post328.html), one 8GB kit is marked 1400, the other one 2500. It doesn't refer to the PCB either, as they look 100% identical.

[Reefa_Madness]

Take a look at the pics ihog6hog posted, one 8GB kit is marked 1400, the other one 2500. It doesn't refer to the PCB either, as they look 100% identical.

Yep, you're right. They are different models (one being CL10 and the other CL11), but that shouldn't make any difference.

Looks like the guessing game continues. :(

[Don_Dan]

Thanks for info Websmile:up:

It just won't do Cas8

They can do ~1066MHz 7-9-7 though, right?


Yep, you're right. They are different models (one being CL10 and the other CL11), but that shouldn't make any difference.

Looks like the guessing game continues. :(

Yeah, I checked some more kits and things don't work out.

G.Skill is probably having a good laugh about this thread. :ROTF:

[stunned_guy]

Yeah show me the picture with the Elpida and blue pcb, thanks ;)

[Reefa_Madness]

G.Skill is probably having a good laugh about this thread.

I've posted that same sentiment a couple of times already.

Oh well, maybe in time it will get sorted out.

But in the meantime I don't see myself spending anymore for high-end GSkill modules with unknown components.

[Dumo]

Imo, usually the first few (initial retail release) batches are the best...for high end ram kit

Just my 2c:)

[Don_Dan]

Yeah show me the picture with the Elpida and blue pcb, thanks ;)

I will! :D


I've posted that same sentiment a couple of times already.

Oh well, maybe in time it will get sorted out.

But in the meantime I don't see myself spending anymore for high-end GSkill modules with unknown components.

I'm sure we'll figure it out in due time... :)

I agree with dumo, get them while they're new, now you can be sure about what you're receiving. I wanted to buy a Samsung kit for Christmas, but I think I'll buy it now, who knows if they might change ICs in the meantime.

[BeepBeep2]

Hello everyone. :)
Yesterday I recieved 2x4GB G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 (1.25v) for my new AMD Mini-ITX build.

Sticker says Oct 2012, Week 1242, Full SN: 12421800xxxxxx. I saw on AwardFabrik 11200850xxxxxx.
Hopefully they clock well, I have high hopes for at least 1866 9-9-9 1.5v.

Curious, and surprised after reading that there were Elpida ICs inside, I opened them up... IC reads "U235V8C08A07".
PCB is a 6-layer BrainPower PCB rated for DDR3-1600, B63URCB 0.70. If this stuff is Elpida, I suspect it is EFBG.
I didn't take any measurements, but with my photos I should be able to figure it out after measuring PCB height:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/61468_495175817169955_2062852820_n.jpg

[Reefa_Madness]

I agree with dumo, get them while they're new, now you can be sure about what you're receiving. I wanted to buy a Samsung kit for Christmas, but I think I'll buy it now, who knows if they might change ICs in the meantime.

If they haven't already. :(

[PolRoger]

I have a 2x2gb set of Trident F3-17066CL9D-4GBTDS (1.65v) that I thought were PSC but after checking them again the have "0660" series number.

I didn't know that they also "spec'd" this particular kit with BBSE... I thought the Trident 2133C9 kits were mostly PSC?

Serial #: "94806601415xx"

[C-N]

@ PolRoger.... think your keyboard is playing up!!! mine does it all the time lol F3-17066CL9D-4GBTDS

[Don_Dan]

Hello everyone. :)
Yesterday I recieved 2x4GB G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 (1.25v) for my new AMD Mini-ITX build.

Sticker says Oct 2012, Week 1242, Full SN: 12421800xxxxxx. I saw on AwardFabrik 11200850xxxxxx.
Hopefully they clock well, I have high hopes for at least 1866 9-9-9 1.5v.

Curious, and surprised after reading that there were Elpida ICs inside, I opened them up... IC reads "U235V8C08A07".
PCB is a 6-layer BrainPower PCB rated for DDR3-1600, B63URCB 0.70. If this stuff is Elpida, I suspect it is EFBG.
I didn't take any measurements, but with my photos I should be able to figure it out after measuring PCB height:

Yes, those are Elpida ICs. Are your sticks single sided or double sided?


If they haven't already. :(

So far all the new kits I've seen are clocking well!
By the way, check your PMs. :)


I have a 2x4gb set of Trident F3-17066CLD9-4GBTDS (1.65v) that I thought were PSC but after checking them again the have "0660" series number.

I didn't know that they also "spec'd" this particular kit with BBSE... I thought the Trident 2133C9 kits were mostly PSC?

Serial #: "94086601415xx"

You mean 2x2GB set, right? Your part number is also a bit mixed up, it should be F3-17066CL9D-4GBTDS.

This kit is definitely using BBSE ( maybe a very small chance for MxH-E Hyper ), they were never using PSC for this kit as far as I know. Binning PSC for tRCD 9 at 1066MHz is too hard when BBSE can do it easily. Only on DDR3-2000 ( and maybe lower ) Trident/Ripjaws kits there are different version with BBSE or PSC chips.

[PolRoger]

You mean 2x2GB set, right? Your part number is also a bit mixed up, it should be F3-17066CL9D-4GBTDS.

This kit is definitely using BBSE ( maybe a very small chance for MxH-E Hyper ), they were never using PSC for this kit as far as I know. Binning PSC for tRCD 9 at 1066MHz is too hard when BBSE can do it easily. Only on DDR3-2000 ( and maybe lower ) Trident/Ripjaws kits there are different version with BBSE or PSC chips.

Thanks Dan for the clarification...

Yes it is a 2x2gb kit. I'm not really sure where/how I came to think that these kits were PSC? I guess I'll need to do some more testing with it using IB. :)

[BeepBeep2]

Yes, those are Elpida ICs. Are your sticks single sided or double sided?

Double sided.

[Don_Dan]

Double sided.

In that case they can't be EFBG. 4GB double sided sticks means 2Gb IC. They could be DEBG or EEBG, but that's just speculation.

@stunned_guy:
The pics I promised you ( sorry for the not-so-great quality ):

http://imageshack.us/a/img22/4977/elpidaoembbse2.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/8939/elpidaoembbse5.jpg

1GB Elpida OEM stick.

[BeepBeep2]

In that case they can't be EFBG. 4GB double sided sticks means 2Gb IC. They could be DEBG or EEBG, but that's just speculation.

Okay, makes sense.
They do DDR3-1600 8-8-8 at 1.5-1.525v in a very warm environment, I haven't been able to thoroughly check stability outside Memtest86+ and general use. DDR3-1600 8-8-7 takes a little more voltage. Maybe 7-7-7 could be done with 1.65v, but I haven't tested yet.

I think they are rather decent. My ASROCK Mini-ITX motherboard won't do DDR3-1866(+) with them though even with CL11.

[stunned_guy]

Thanks for pic ;)

[Don_Dan]

Okay, makes sense.
They do DDR3-1600 8-8-8 at 1.5-1.525v in a very warm environment, I haven't been able to thoroughly check stability outside Memtest86+ and general use. DDR3-1600 8-8-7 takes a little more voltage. Maybe 7-7-7 could be done with 1.65v, but I haven't tested yet.

I think they are rather decent. My ASROCK Mini-ITX motherboard won't do DDR3-1866(+) with them though even with CL11.

They can do 800MHz 8-8-8 but 933MHz 11-11-11 isn't working? Weird. But then again, I haven't seen any info about how the latest Elpida 2Gb ICs clock yet. Will you test them on another board?


Thanks for pic ;)

You're welcome! :D

[BeepBeep2]

They can do 800MHz 8-8-8 but 933MHz 11-11-11 isn't working? Weird. But then again, I haven't seen any info about how the latest Elpida 2Gb ICs clock yet. Will you test them on another board?

I can, but the only other boards/CPUs I have available right now are Phenom II.

[Don_Dan]

Thuban or Deneb? If it's the latter it might limit you too much... Please test if you can do 800MHz 7-8-7 on Trinity.

[BeepBeep2]

Thuban or Deneb? If it's the latter it might limit you too much... Please test if you can do 800MHz 7-8-7 on Trinity.
Deneb, so about 1800-1866 MHz will be it.
I can't do 800 MHz 7-8-7 on Trinity, tried up to 1.7v. I think tRP is the limiting factor because 8-8-7 needs almost 0.05v more than 8-8-8. It seems like this board just sucks.

EDIT:
Seems tRFC needs to be set to 160 at 1600, XMP profile shows 130 but not on AMD :p:, 110 fails Memtest86+ pretty quick. :(

[Tomasis]

Hi,

Id like to know memory IC on my TridentX 2400 C10D 8gtx.

it is single sided, S/N 1236150xxx

Is there a page to check out Gskill mem IC?

[BeepBeep2]

Hi,

Id like to know memory IC on my TridentX 2400 C10D 8gtx.

it is single sided, S/N 1236150xxx

Is there a page to check out Gskill mem IC?
Samsung, they should work fine in your board.

[Reefa_Madness]

Hi,

Id like to know memory IC on my TridentX 2400 C10D 8gtx.

it is single sided, S/N 1236150xxx

Is there a page to check out Gskill mem IC?

Did you, by chance, look at the first page of this thread?

[Tomasis]

thanks Beep and Reefa, I see the thread is new :)

Interesting that my 1 years old Ripjaw 1600 cl9 has Hynix chip and dont OC at all.

[Don_Dan]

Deneb, so about 1800-1866 MHz will be it.
I can't do 800 MHz 7-8-7 on Trinity, tried up to 1.7v. I think tRP is the limiting factor because 8-8-7 needs almost 0.05v more than 8-8-8. It seems like this board just sucks.

EDIT:
Seems tRFC needs to be set to 160 at 1600, XMP profile shows 130 but not on AMD :p:, 110 fails Memtest86+ pretty quick. :(

Alright, thanks for the info!


Hi,

Id like to know memory IC on my TridentX 2400 C10D 8gtx.

it is single sided, S/N 1236150xxx

Is there a page to check out Gskill mem IC?

You forgot a "0", but your kit is Samsung ICs ( K4B4G0846B-xxx ). On some AM3 boards they refuse to boot up ( only 990FX from what I've seen ).

[Tomasis]

You forgot a "0", but your kit is Samsung ICs ( K4B4G0846B-xxx ). On some AM3 boards they refuse to boot up ( only 990FX from what I've seen ).

yes, what im experiencing just now (gigabyte ud3 1.0 990Fx)

Gigabyte support told me that same modules as mine , booted up on the same mobo there. Ways to figure out is to check my mem at a shop and to get know S/N that worked for Gigabyte technician in order to clear out the mystery :)

[Don_Dan]

yes, what im experiencing just now (gigabyte ud3 1.0 990Fx)

Gigabyte support told me that same modules as mine , booted up on the same mobo there. Ways to figure out is to check my mem at a shop and to get know S/N that worked for Gigabyte technician in order to clear out the mystery :)

Ask them if their sticks are double sided and which revision they have in the labs, the first batches of the 2400C10s were double-sided, most likely Hynix CFR.

[michaelrw]

lolz ... bc of this info ive determined that some trident bbse i bought from splave is actually psc. refund time :ROTF:
thats odd though, wouldnt expect 9-9-9 2000 to be psc

serial: 10131040198276 :D

[C-N]

lolz ... bc of this info ive determined that some trident bbse i bought from splave is actually psc. refund time :ROTF:
thats odd though, wouldnt expect 9-9-9 2000 to be psc

serial: 10131040198276 :D

As far as my sets went the 1040 9.9.9 2000's that were 1.6v were PSC & 0640 1.65v ones were BBSE.

[Don_Dan]

lolz ... bc of this info ive determined that some trident bbse i bought from splave is actually psc. refund time :ROTF:
thats odd though, wouldnt expect 9-9-9 2000 to be psc

serial: 10131040198276 :D

There are two versions of the Trident/Ripjaws 2000 CL9 bin, just like C-N said:


As far as my sets went the 1040 9.9.9 2000's that were 1.6v were PSC & 0640 1.65v ones were BBSE.

:up:

PSC binned for 1000MHz tRCD 9 at 1.6V is actually pretty nice...

Edit: I checked it again and there seem to be three different version:
0640 1.65V Elpida BBSE
0640 1.6V Elpida BBSE
1040 1.6V PSC

[stunned_guy]

Hi,

Id like to know memory IC on my TridentX 2400 C10D 8gtx.

it is single sided, S/N 1236150xxx

Is there a page to check out Gskill mem IC?

Look at here: http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f13/g-skill-ddr3-ic-sammelthread-924433.html#d

I had that same sticks single sided with 1219AB40xxxxxxx and nice to see that with other numbers from G.Skill they are still single sided.

[Dumo]

lolz ... bc of this info ive determined that some trident bbse i bought from splave is actually psc. refund time :ROTF:
thats odd though, wouldnt expect 9-9-9 2000 to be psc

serial: 10131040198276 :DImo, Trident 2000C9 psc with batches 10041040xxx ~ 10231040xxx are the ones to find:)

Some of these kits need 1.88V+ to blast through 32m on air @ 2600 8-12-7-28 twcl7 with ultra tight secs/terts

[michaelrw]

Imo, Trident 2000C9 psc with batches 10041040xxx ~ 10231040xxx are the ones to find:)

Some of these kits need 1.88V+ to blast through 32m on air @ 2600 8-12-7-28 twcl7 with ultra tight secs/terts

Which applies to my kit.. That's good to know. I've been trying to clock these sticks like BBSE since I got them... even though technique and timings should be similar to PSC I've always gotten a bad feeling from these sticks.. Maybe now I will have some better luck using PSC profile as my base instead of BBSE base lol :D

[Tomasis]

Don dan and other, for information i got confirmed that the memory modules are doa.

How often it happens that one receives completely dead kit? :-)

[Don_Dan]

Don dan and other, for information i got confirmed that the memory modules are doa.

How often it happens that one receives completely dead kit? :-)

It has never happened to me. :shocked:
I received some kits with one dead module or kits that were physically damaged due to bad packaging, but a brand-new kit has never been dead for me.

[stunned_guy]

Wow thats hard to believe :( Sad to hear. Send it back or start an RMA.

[stunned_guy]

Found one kit with serial 1240 and i looked under the heat spreader.
I saw that this is not Nanya like somebody thought and its written in the starting post -> its Aeneon or Infineon / Qimonda by the way. Look at the dot in the left, this is the same ic detection like the old DDR2 Aeneon / Infineon / Qimonda style. ;) 2 rings in another, Nanya IC have a very small full dot only.

DDR3
http://www.abload.de/thumb/valuef3-10666cl9d-4gby7odv.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=valuef3-10666cl9d-4gby7odv.jpg)

DDR2
http://www.abload.de/thumb/bild011wgo6s.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bild011wgo6s.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/bild009sirxr.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bild009sirxr.jpg)

[Don_Dan]

Awesome, thanks Phil! :up:

[stunned_guy]

It should be Qimonda not Infineon. ;)
Found the next sticks with original Qimonda IC. Thats very nice, pic will be posted later.

[Don_Dan]

Alright, I changed it! ;)

[stunned_guy]

Look: Qimonda IC with SN 1240

http://www.abload.de/thumb/valuef3-12800cl9d-4gb1rqba.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=valuef3-12800cl9d-4gb1rqba.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/valuef3-12800cl9d-4gbkipvi.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=valuef3-12800cl9d-4gbkipvi.jpg)

The IC is 1.25 x 0.85 cm on both sticks. Qimonda A1.

[hiwa]

All tests are done with different 3770K CPUs ,ThermalRight SA 2 X fan 140 1200RPM ambient +22 and passed 32m several times.

G.SKILL Trident 16000C9 9-9-9-27 1.65 DualChannel 0640 BBSE , 2600 9-10-7-18-72 twcl 8 with 1.89

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/149/file2f.jpg

G.SKILL Trident 20000C9 9-11-9-31 1.65 DualChannel 0140 PSC , 2600 7-11-7-21-72 twcl 6 with 1.95 , this kit is from P55 time and always benched it +1.90 air, can do 2750 7-11-7 twcl 6 2.15 -20 8m

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9075/filefi.jpg

G.SKILL PIS 16000C6T 6-9-6-24-88 1.65 TripleChannel 0140 PSC , 2600 8-12-7-21-72 twcl 7 with 1.87 , 8Gb 2600 9-12-7-24-72 twcl 6 1.97

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7072/1img2700.jpg

G.SKILL FLARE 8GB F3-16000CL7D-4GBFLS 7-9-7-24 1.65V DualChannel 1040 PSC , same as PIS series

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6199/filexd.jpg

G.SKILL PIS F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS 7-10-7-24 1.65 DualChannel 1040 PSC , Dead Kit

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7044/file1mb.jpg

not retail memories here
G.SKILL RipjawsX 2133 Cl8 BBSE Blue HS (Should be) 2600 8-12-8-21 all tight 1.85
G.SKILL RipjawsX 2400 Cl8 PSC (Black HS) 2700 7-11-7-24 all tight 1.89 can't do twcl 6
G.SKILL PerfectStorm triple channel BBSE 2500 8-11-8 all tight batch 0948 1.87
G.SKILL TridentX 2600C10 Sams 2700 10-12-10 all tight 1.90 twcl 8

[BeepBeep2]

Hey hiwa, what PCBs used for top two kits and Flare?

I got 1333 CL7 ECO today, SN is 10250640, hoping for BBSE. ICs are unlabeled though, just some pencil markings white and blue on them and E019A8DA941G...
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/r90/556678_502055603148643_30073373_n.jpg

[Don_Dan]

Nice kits hiwa, makes me jelly! :rofl:

@Beep: Do the ICs have white stripes on their sides?

[BeepBeep2]

I don't know about "white", but more like grey...at the base probably 1/4th the way up the side:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/12613_502065189814351_1392234839_n.jpg

The copper dot that is visible here isn't visible on all the chips

It doesn't look like this if that's what you were asking:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7403/dsc8511f.jpg

but I will fire them up and see what they do anyway. :)

[BeepBeep2]

Looks like -
1600 6-8-6 posts at 1.55v, boots at 1.6v, needs about/almost 1.7v to pass 32m
2133 7-10-7 posts / boots at 1.65v, tried up to 1.75v will not pass 32m
2133 8-10-7 same thing
2133 7-11-7 same thing, gets a little further in 32m maybe...will test more
2133 7-10-8 same thing

BDBE? These sticks are crap.

[Don_Dan]

I meant white stripes like in the second picture you posted, those should be BDBG or BDSE, probably BDSE from your results. Try 2133 9-11-9 at 1.65V - 1.75V.

[BeepBeep2]

I meant white stripes like in the second picture you posted, those should be BDBG or BDSE, probably BDSE from your results. Try 2133 9-11-9 at 1.65V - 1.75V.
I can't, OS is corrupt, won't boot :p:

Perfect time to throw a different kit of RAM into my Trinity setup...8-11-8 should work at 2133 though, I'm guessing. I find it odd though that 7-11-7/8-10-7/7-10-8/7-10-7 clock the same...also seems 6-9-6 does not help over 1600 6-8-6.

My RipjawsX 1600 6-8-6 act this way, but are good enough for 2133 7-10-7 ~1.7-1.75v IIRC, after that I have to move to 8-11-8. Those are some type of PSC

[Don_Dan]

That was fast! Don't you run Memtest before booting to Windows?

If they clock similar to PSC they're definitely some kind of BDxx, either bad BDBG or (normal) BDSE.

[BeepBeep2]

That was fast! Don't you run Memtest before booting to Windows?

If they clock similar to PSC they're definitely some kind of BDxx, either bad BDBG or (normal) BDSE.
Sometimes, but usually not. Running Memtest every time I change settings would be a little bit of a hassle...though I do have it on a bootable flash drive.

Win XP is a lot easier to corrupt than Win Vista/7, I've corrupted probably 7 installs of XP and Vista/7 3 or 4 combined. With those though, either the installation disc or built in you can fix it in like 5 minutes :p:

It is a little weird.
6-8-6-24 1600 = 32M pass 1.67v, still need to try a little lower
6-9-6-24 does not work at 1866, nor does 7-9-7 up to 1.75v
7-10-7-27/7-11-7/8-10-7/7-10-8 boots fine at 2133, IIRC as low as 1.65v, but won't pass 32M up to 1.75v.

I had a hard time passing 6-8-6-20 1600 too, tried up to 1.7v for that.

[hiwa]

Beepbeep they are all bbse if thats was the question my trident 16000c9 is exactly like urs, mine are green pcbs but nothing change btw black and green.

Try cl9 they are really sux at cl8 my kit is 1023 so very close to urs.

[Don_Dan]

Sounds like some weak ICs, but I'm not really surprised, the kit is only rated for 1333 7-7-7 after all. :(

[hiwa]

Sounds like some weak ICs, but I'm not really surprised, the kit is only rated for 1333 7-7-7 after all. :(

They are some oem bbse ics and weak on ib, they were crazy on clarcky for high freq.

[Don_Dan]

Are you sure they are BBSE? Even the weakest Elpida Value BBSE I have seen on 1333 CL9 sticks can do 1066MHz 7-9-7 ~1.70V. The production date of the ICs on this kit is also too late for BBSE in my opinion. I think they're some kind of Elpida BDxx IC in OEM form, they were not even binned for BDBG or BDSE most likely.

[hiwa]

I remember ripjaws with bdbg and trident with oem bbse at that speed, and no man i have 1600 7-7-7-21 ripjaws cant do 2133 9-11-9 with even 1.80 and they are marked bbse.

[Don_Dan]

That bad?? I thought you get all the good stuff from G.Skill... :shakes:
I think BeepBeep should try tRCD7 at 800MHz, if they can't do that as well, I'm convinced they are some sort of BDxx.

What were those Ripjaws with BDBG rated for? Trident/Ripjaws with OEM BBSE are quite common and mostly clock like typical BBSE as well. :)

[hiwa]

G.Skill Ripjaws F3-16000CL9D-4GBRM 9-10-9

[Don_Dan]

Thanks hiwa, that's very interesting. :)

[hiwa]

Same time we had [ Ripjaws ] F3-16000CL9D-2GBRH (1Gx2) / F3-16000CL9D-4GBRH (2Gx2) too.
Exactly same as trident 2000 c9 with bbse oem.


http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/year2009/10/gskill_2000c9_ripjaws/index.html

[BeepBeep2]

Unless there were several types of BBSE I don't think I have BBSE...

BBSE does not have the lip on the bottom that extends down in the middle, you can see in the picture with white lines in my post there BBSE is flat on the bottom and whatever I have isn't.

@Don_Dan
6-7-6 doesn't work, not going to try crazy volts like 1.8v+
6-8-6 is fine in 32M at 1.67v (maybe a little bit less), I'm sure it would be stable 100% at 1.7v or less.

I think I'm gonna go ahead and sell this kit, hopefully someone that needs 1600 CL6/1866 CL7/2133 CL8 and no more than 4GB will appreciate the bargain. I would use it in my Trinity HTPC because it is lower profile and faster than my Sniper but I need the 8GB because I have 2GB dedicated to the GPU leaving 6GB or 2GB in that case.

[Don_Dan]

Same time we had [ Ripjaws ] F3-16000CL9D-2GBRH (1Gx2) / F3-16000CL9D-4GBRH (2Gx2) too.
Exactly same as trident 2000 c9 with bbse oem.


http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn/year2009/10/gskill_2000c9_ripjaws/index.html

Thanks for the post hiwa, I've only seen those kits with either BBSE or PSC chips. I have one myself and it's BBSE.


Unless there were several types of BBSE I don't think I have BBSE...

BBSE does not have the lip on the bottom that extends down in the middle, you can see in the picture with white lines in my post there BBSE is flat on the bottom and whatever I have isn't.

@Don_Dan
6-7-6 doesn't work, not going to try crazy volts like 1.8v+
6-8-6 is fine in 32M at 1.67v (maybe a little bit less), I'm sure it would be stable 100% at 1.7v or less.

I think I'm gonna go ahead and sell this kit, hopefully someone that needs 1600 CL6/1866 CL7/2133 CL8 and no more than 4GB will appreciate the bargain. I would use it in my Trinity HTPC because it is lower profile and faster than my Sniper but I need the 8GB because I have 2GB dedicated to the GPU leaving 6GB or 2GB in that case.

I'm pretty sure your ICs are some kind of Elpida BDxx.

[Dumo]

Green and black pcbs on Blue Gskill 2133 C8

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1175/screenshot017at.png

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4432/screenshot018nt.png

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1667/screenshot016q.png

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2102/screenshot016f.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/screenshot016f.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[Reefa_Madness]

I found your post especially interesting when I first saw these pictures over at OCN. Your green PCB kit has the expected "640" in the serial number, however, your black PCB kit, which clearly has BBSE ICs, has the "690" numbering sequence which previously was considered to be indicative of Hyper based modules.

[BeepBeep2]

[*snip*]
What does it say on the green PCB chips?

[teurorist]

i would love to have some of this memory :( 2133 c8

[websmile]

This is not new, I had two sets of 2000 9-9-9- Ripjaws GBRH with BBSE, these were not relabeled, with blck pcb, which had 0690 SN - but I also had a triple Kit of 2000 c9 Trident with 0690, and these were indeed Hyper as the instant freezes on my Z77 showed :D - seems sometimes gskill likes to create a bit of confusion :rofl:

[Don_Dan]

There are some 2133 C8 kit with Hyper ICs as well, also marked 0690 as far as I know.

[websmile]

@Don_Dan Yes, in the 2133c8 thread here at xs someone posted picture of the ICs - were very old MNH-E iirc :D

[Reefa_Madness]

There are some 2133 C8 kit with Hyper ICs as well, also marked 0690 as far as I know.

So are you stating that there are confirmed kits of 2133 C8 with Hyper ICs and the 0690 serial number AND there are known kits with BBSE ICs which also have the 0690 serial number (like Dumo's kit above)?

That sure makes a mess of things.

Edit:
Just saw websmile's post as an affirmative

[Don_Dan]

I think both Mafio and crio had kits with MNH-E ICs, both green PCBs too if I recall correctly.


So are you stating that there are confirmed kits of 2133 C8 with Hyper ICs and the 0690 serial number AND there are known kits with BBSE ICs which also have the 0690 serial number (like Dumo's kit above)?

That sure makes a mess of things.

Edit:
Just saw websmile's post as an affirmative

There are confirmed kits with MNH-E ICs (http://www.hwbox.gr/161879-post37.html), unfortunately I can't find pics of their heatspreader but I'm rather sure they were marked 0690.

[Dumo]

I got a few green pcb 2133 C8 with the same ic and ser # 1104xxx ~ 1108xxx which clocked really good.

The black 1115xxx was an rma when the kit already oos everywhere.

And there F3-17066CL8D-4GBXMD Blues in the wild that probly only exist as review samples and early batch 104xxxx or 105xxx

[Reefa_Madness]

Thanks for the IC confirmation. Used to feel better when I thought I knew what was under the hood of the GSkill stuff.

I really liked it in the old days of DDR1 when GSkill was so proud of the ICs they used in their products that their ram shipped naked.

[flesheatinvirus]

I still have a couple sets of there F3-17000CL7D-4GBXHD that work great, on my UD5 they could do 6-9-6-25 at 2250.

[Don_Dan]

Thanks for the IC confirmation. Used to feel better when I thought I knew what was under the hood of the GSkill stuff.

I really liked it in the old days of DDR1 when GSkill was so proud of the ICs they used in their products that their ram shipped naked.

I have two kits of F1-4400DSU2-1GBLE, I'll post some pictures for old time's sake soon! :)


I still have a couple sets of there F3-17000CL7D-4GBXHD that work great, on my UD5 they could do 6-9-6-25 at 2250.

This kit is using PSC chips with 99% certainty, are you sure you can do 1125MHz 6-9-6?

[flesheatinvirus]

Yes I am sure, the two sets I still have are incredible. I tested them in two different Gig UD5 boards and they simply cranked. I know I have pics saved somewhere on DVD of 32 meg Pi runs that where interesting. Let me see if I can dig them up.

[Dumo]

tccd:)

http://img134.exs.cx/img134/1221/cpumem2bt.jpg

[Don_Dan]

Yes I am sure, the two sets I still have are incredible. I tested them in two different Gig UD5 boards and they simply cranked. I know I have pics saved somewhere on DVD of 32 meg Pi runs that where interesting. Let me see if I can dig them up.

Yes, please try to find some screenshots! :yepp:


tccd:)

Yes! :)
I knew you'd have some of those too! :D

[teurorist]

g skill tccd
now everybody has to go to his storage place and search what he has ^^ very help full list especially thanks to tapakaha for working out the basics
using it allot at the moment

there are just 4 relay important numbers 1040 640 650 660

[stunned_guy]

Is that Elpida IC ? 1.05 cm x 0.75 cm. The dot on the left side is much deeper to the letters than on other Elpida ICs. SN is 0640.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/ripjawsf3-12800cl9d-4iul0m.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=ripjawsf3-12800cl9d-4iul0m.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/ripjawsf3-12800cl9d-4m4zfi.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=ripjawsf3-12800cl9d-4m4zfi.jpg)

[Don_Dan]

This is an Elpida eTT or OEM IC, just going by the production date I think it's some kind of BDxx chip.

[stunned_guy]

What is eTT ? Can you explain that ? Untested like the old utt BH-5 or what ?

[Don_Dan]

Sure. I remember there is a nice explanation by Exceleram. The original source is down but the article is still up at MaximumPC (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/exceleram_explains_ram_binning_process):


According to Exceleram, memory chips typically fall into one of four categories. At the top are "Major Brand" chips. These are fully tested and labelled by the maker with its own brand name, like Elpida, Hynix, Micron, Samsung, etc, and are the highest quality available.

Just below that are "eTT" chips. These are also fully tested, but overproduced and are sold unlabeled and already mounted to modules by other producers. Exceleram says these are comparable in quality to Major Brand.

Lower on the totem poll are "uTT" chips. Exceleram says these may not have been fully tested, and though they're usually functional, they're typically not backed by a warranty. The upshot is that they're a lot cheaper than other types of memory chips, so memory makers may opt to gamble.

The least desirable chips are called "Downgraded," and these have usually failed some critical tests, Exceleram says. However, they usually "work well under normal circumstances," they just won't be sold as enthusiast grade or overclocking RAM.

[stunned_guy]

Thanks for explanation ;)

[Don_Dan]

You're welcome! ;)

[BeepBeep2]

Absolutely unbelievable...
When I opened the package I thought "No f**king way!!!"...1250 is last week and the package just came (Monday)!

Thank you for the Christmas present G.Skill!

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7628/nofkingway.jpg

[Ivanlabrie]

Hey beep what's that? An Rma replacement?
Serial 1200 psc, what?

[BeepBeep2]

Hey beep what's that? An Rma replacement?
Serial 1200 psc, what?
Yeah, RMA for 2x2GB PIS 2133 CL7 (one stick dead, only SPD worked), I was expecting Samsung stuff!!!
I can't believe it, they gave me an SKU upgrade and pulled some kind of magic!

EDIT:
Opened the box and a Turbulence II Fan was included too, plus G.Skill sticker. I had only sent them bare modules...

PCB on the sticks is different than normal. "K0-8117"

[Ivanlabrie]

Incredible man!
All of my sticks are g.skill and I guess they'll remain that way xD
I guess you haven't pulled the heatsinks off yet, right? I'm kinda curious about the ics...
Gonna ask to see if I can get some of those, wish me luck!

[stasio]

Hmm,
I send them for RMA F3-17600CL8D-4GBPS.....last month
and they send me back F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM (xxxx1500).
At least instead of 2x2GB,I have one more 2x4GB now.

[BeepBeep2]

Incredible man!
All of my sticks are g.skill and I guess they'll remain that way xD
I guess you haven't pulled the heatsinks off yet, right? I'm kinda curious about the ics...
Gonna ask to see if I can get some of those, wish me luck!
Well obviously PSC, I'm not going to pull the HS off these, I can't afford to screw them up...

Hmm,
I send them for RMA F3-17600CL8D-4GBPS.....last month
and they send me back F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM (xxxx1500).
At least instead of 2x2GB,I have one more 2x4GB now.
I know, it's crazy!

I did ask to avoid high density modules Hynix/Samsung if at all possible though, (I told them I'd take any PSC or BBSE in the building) but that was in the middle of August with an expired RMA number (I never mailed the sticks in time) that was not exactly associated to this last one outside of the same email address.

[Ivanlabrie]

Interesting...I'll give that a shot.

[Don_Dan]

Absolutely unbelievable...
When I opened the package I thought "No f**king way!!!"...1250 is last week and the package just came (Monday)!

Thank you for the Christmas present G.Skill!

Nice! :)

As I said in the team's thread, I have a Ripjaws X kit with a production date of April/May 2012, can't recall the exact week right now. I think they have a small stock of kits reserved for RMA and they print out the labels when they send out the kits.


Yeah, RMA for 2x2GB PIS 2133 CL7 (one stick dead, only SPD worked), I was expecting Samsung stuff!!!
I can't believe it, they gave me an SKU upgrade and pulled some kind of magic!

EDIT:
Opened the box and a Turbulence II Fan was included too, plus G.Skill sticker. I had only sent them bare modules...

PCB on the sticks is different than normal. "K0-8117"

Can you post a pic of the sticks?
Do you have green or black PCB? If there is K0-8117 on your sticks there should be an encircled HJ somewhere too...
My guess is green 8-layer PCB from HJ like on my kit.

[BeepBeep2]

Nice! :)

As I said in the team's thread, I have a Ripjaws X kit with a production date of April/May 2012, can't recall the exact week right now. I think they have a small stock of kits reserved for RMA and they print out the labels when they send out the kits.



Can you post a pic of the sticks?
Do you have green or black PCB? If there is K0-8117 on your sticks there should be an encircled HJ somewhere too...
My guess is green 8-layer PCB from HJ like on my kit.
Yeah. I can confirm it is 8 layers, one side I can see "12" and the other "78"

Looks like this, didn't look at date. Away from home right now.
http://www.modlabs.net/sites/default/files/16_pcb_hj_m1_ko-8117(2).jpg

[Don_Dan]

Yeah. I can confirm it is 8 layers, one side I can see "12" and the other "78"

Looks like this, didn't look at date. Away from home right now.

Exactly like my kit, it's probably even from the same batch of sticks. I'm wondering why G.Skill is using this PCB instead of the usual Brainpower one...

[Dumo]

Any info on this 3X2GB (2009) Trident 2000 kit?

Thanks.

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/3598/screenshot048p.png

[stunned_guy]

9210660 is your dimm, I have here 9250640

http://www.abload.de/thumb/tridentf3-16000cl9t-6vqunz.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=tridentf3-16000cl9t-6vqunz.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/tridentf3-16000cl9t-69euai.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=tridentf3-16000cl9t-69euai.jpg)

[Zeus]

Found a new one:

http://i.imgur.com/JZdQs.png

It's the Trident-X 2400 C10 sold here for way too much money: http://dx.com/p/g-skill-tridentx-4gb-x-2-ddr3-2400mhz-f3-2400c10d-8gtx-desktop-memory-red-2-pcs-174329

G.Skill must be peeing theirselfs laughing when reading this.

[TaPaKaH]

eighth symbol in the SN is not always "0", I had kits with "G" (http://www.abload.de/img/2vcumb.jpg) and currently have a kit with "L" but these don't seem to be special or different in any way ... so the SN-IC indicators might actually be symbols 5-7 rather than 5-8

[CoolBits]

Any info on this 3X2GB (2009) Trident 2000 kit?

Thanks.

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/3598/screenshot048p.png


http://thumbnails108.imagebam.com/22722/f51df8227214694.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f51df8227214694) http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/22722/8a151c227214731.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8a151c227214731) http://thumbnails108.imagebam.com/22722/5c8cde227214753.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5c8cde227214753)


I think Elpida BDSE or similar......really crappy :down:

[TaPaKaH]

CoolBits, the earliest BDxx ICs I have ever seen were week 927 so most likely yours are BBSE, just not too good ones.
BBSE vary a lot in quality: there is stuff that won't do 1066 9-9-9 at 1.65V, there is stuff that will do 1200 7-10-7 at 1.7V.

[Don_Dan]

Any info on this 3X2GB (2009) Trident 2000 kit?

Thanks.

Nope, sorry Dumo, I haven't seen many of the 0660 kits yet.


Found a new one:

It's the Trident-X 2400 C10 sold here for way too much money: http://dx.com/p/g-skill-tridentx-4gb-x-2-ddr3-2400mhz-f3-2400c10d-8gtx-desktop-memory-red-2-pcs-174329

G.Skill must be peeing theirselfs laughing when reading this.

Interesting, thanks for posting the pic! :up:


eighth symbol in the SN is not always "0", I had kits with "G" (http://www.abload.de/img/2vcumb.jpg) and currently have a kit with "L" but these don't seem to be special or different in any way ... so the SN-IC indicators might actually be symbols 5-7 rather than 5-8

Heh, your account has been unbanned... Welcome back!

Thanks for posting, I haven't seen any kit where the eigth digit isn't "0" yet. Any idea what these symbols could mean?


I think Elpida BDSE or similar......really crappy :down:

I really doubt any manufacturer binned BDSE for 1000MHz tRCD 9, I think you just found a pretty bad BBSE kit. Sorry man! :(

[Fr3ak]

And here is my contribution to this thread:

Dear MemMaster Daniel, please tell me what could be under the hood of these:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14652801/XtremeSystems/Fr3ak%20GSkill%20Trident%20DIMM%20Kit%208GB%20PC3-16000U%20CL9-9-9-27%20%28DDR3-2000%29%20%28F3-16000CL9D-8GBTDD%29.jpg

Are they any good?

[websmile]

2000 c9 trident quad kit, Elpida BBSE, usually higher quality but these are later samples - make tests for 2133 7-9-7-21 and then go higher, very good samples do 1200 8-10-7-22 at below 1,75v and can boot and run 1300 8-11-7-22 with hard subs - good luck on that

Edit lol, I misread the label, if these are 2x4gb and not 4x2gb, these will most likely be bcse, going up on max of 2133 9-9-9 and 2400 10-10-10 at high voltage - sorry :p :D

[TaPaKaH]

what BBSE? these are 4Gb modules :D

anyway, the only Elpida 2Gbit ICs I know that are capable of such specs are BCSE .. which aren't something interesting for benchers.

[Don_Dan]

And here is my contribution to this thread:

Dear MemMaster Daniel, please tell me what could be under the hood of these:

Are they any good?

Thanks for the nice title! :rofl:

As I said, I'm not sure what they are, they could be the same chips that were used on this kit (http://club.coneco.net/user/11614/review/67259/), maybe the first 2Gb Chips by Elpida ( EDJ2108BASE?! ). Can you test your kit and compare the results?


2000 c9 trident quad kit, Elpida BBSE, usually higher quality but these are later samples - make tests for 2133 7-9-7-21 and then go higher, very good samples do 1200 8-10-7-22 at below 1,75v and can boot and run 1300 8-11-7-22 with hard subs - good luck on that

Nope, it's 4GBx2 not 2GBx4! :p:

[websmile]

hmm, Dan, as usually you failed on F5 and haven?t noticed the two updates done before your post :p: :rofl:

[hiwa]

Bought 2 x 6gb trident 2000 9-9-9-27 one 1.65 and one 1.6 And one 6gb pis 2000 6-9-6 (psc 100% )will be here next week hope the tridents are good...

[Don_Dan]

hmm, Dan, as usually you failed on F5 and haven?t noticed the two updates done before your post :p: :rofl:

I had to chat with a girl, that's more important than refreshing the thread! :p:


Bought 2 x 6gb trident 2000 9-9-9-27 one 1.65 and one 1.6 And one 6gb pis 2000 6-9-6 (psc 100% )will be here next week hope the tridents are good...

I'm looking forward to your tests! :up:

[Reefa_Madness]

I had to chat with a girl, that's more important than refreshing the thread!

Glad to see you have your priorities in order. :)

[stunned_guy]

Have here SN 1340 on F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ 2x2, production was 934. 1340 I can not remember.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/valuef3-12800cl9d-4gb2crmn.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=valuef3-12800cl9d-4gb2crmn.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/valuef3-12800cl9d-4gbbhrx5.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=valuef3-12800cl9d-4gbbhrx5.jpg)

Look at the very small dot on the left side. Thats no Aeneon / Qimonda / Infineon. Looks like the old ProMos on DDR2.

[Don_Dan]

Glad to see you have your priorities in order. :)

Sure! ;)


Have here SN 1340 on F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ 2x2, production was 934. 1340 I can not remember.

Look at the very small dot on the left side. Thats no Aeneon / Qimonda / Infineon. Looks like the old ProMos on DDR2.

I have never seen any ProMOS DDR3 chips, but their site says they produce 1Gb, 2Gb and 4 Gb ICs. Comparing it to their DDR2 chips (http://ramlist.i4memory.com/) ( under Various DDR2 ICs ) I think you're right. I'll add them with a question mark.

[stunned_guy]

The IC are very tall, 1.30 x 0.90 cm. Biggest IC on DDR3 I ever see.

[Don_Dan]

I noticed that as well, very big ICs.

[stunned_guy]

Nanya and Elixir also have very small dots on the left side but we know the SN of these. So there is in my opinion no other choise than ProMos. Or is there any other producer in the world who makes IC for the market not listen in the list on the first side ?

Edit:
SN 0940 could be Elixir because every producer is listen one times in the list. So why Nanya is listen with 2 several numbers of 08xx and 09xx ?

[Don_Dan]

09xx can't be Elixir, I'm pretty sure about that. 07xx is Elixir and 08xx is Nanya. I've only seen one kit of 09xx and my best guess was that they're Nanya. I just checked Tapakah's list and he put them as ProMOS... :D

PS: Companies missing in the list are Winbond ( possible ) and Mosel Vitelic Corporation ( owned by ProMOS, closed down in 2009, never made DDR3 ICs afaik ), just from the top of my head.

[stunned_guy]

You are right. Was my fault Elixir is in the list with 07xx ;) First thinking than writing :D
Mosel Vitalic is never doing DDR3 so far. I hope I will find some other 13xx with label to check it out.

[hiwa]

3 x 2gb trident 2000 9-9-9-27 one 1.65 6400 BBSE

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8206/img0002sk.jpg

3 X 2GB trident 2000 9-9-9-27 one 1.60 104L is it PSC ?

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8771/img0004qo.jpg

3 X 2GB PIS 2000 6-9-6 1040 PSC

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/845/img0003pn.jpg

[Leeghoofd]

Me drools at 6GBPIS at 6-9-6... looked for these for ages...

[websmile]

104L is PSC, I have seen kits with a letter instead of the zero several times, funny is that this was mostly on kits sold at france :D

[hiwa]

104L is PSC, I have seen kits with a letter instead of the zero several times, funny is that this was mostly on kits sold at france :D

bought them from Belgium and NL

so now i have enough , just waiting for a new flare kit then i am done for haswell...

[hiwa]

Me drools at 6GBPIS at 6-9-6... looked for these for ages...

dude that kit is from ebay BE lol

[Don_Dan]

3 x 2gb trident 2000 9-9-9-27 one 1.65 6400 BBSE

3 X 2GB trident 2000 9-9-9-27 one 1.60 104L is it PSC ?

3 X 2GB PIS 2000 6-9-6 1040 PSC

Thanks hiwa!
Yes, 104x is PSC.



104L is PSC, I have seen kits with a letter instead of the zero several times, funny is that this was mostly on kits sold at france :D

Tapakah has commented on this in post 141 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?283666-Figuring-out-G.Skill-s-SNs&p=5160474&viewfull=1#post5160474), I have only seen "L" and "Y" so far, and of course "0". I have absolutely no idea what it means. :shrug:

[Asmola]

I found 2 kit's of 2x2GB 9-9-9-27 Ripjaws (F3-16000CL9D-4GBRH) with sn 1200. Best PSC's i have seen so far, better kit does 7-10-7 2200 1.57v and capable to CL8 2700 1.92v with aircooling.

http://i3.aijaa.com/b/00584/11668903.jpg

Lucky me, found these from clearance sale for 50e/kit.

[Dumo]

I found 2 kit's of 2x2GB 9-9-9-27 Ripjaws (F3-16000CL9D-4GBRH) with sn 1200. Best PSC's i have seen so far, better kit does 7-10-7 2200 1.57v and capable to CL8 2700 1.92v.
Can you go 2600 CL8 and TWCL6?

[Asmola]

Can you go 2600 CL8 and TWCL6?
Looks like yes. Havent tested before, but thanks for pointing out! :)

Edit: Also capable to 7-12-7 2600 1.92v with air. :) Testing min voltage for that...

..1.825v min for 7-12-7 2600.

[MaJ0r]

Hi all! Do you have any idea about F3-12800CL8T-6GBPI s/n 9130640158023, Elpida
06xx - Elpida 0640 0650/0660 BBSE or something else?

[websmile]

These are Elpida ICs, but I doubt these being BBSE - might as well be BASE or BDBG, 0640 covered not only BBSE and the 1600c8 PIS kits I know were bad clockers most likely BASE

[MaJ0r]

These are Elpida ICs, but I doubt these being BBSE - might as well be BASE or BDBG, 0640 covered not only BBSE and the 1600c8 PIS kits I know were bad clockers most likely BASE
Thanks for explanations. I think you're right, this kit has no chances to be good )

[Splave]

Me drools at 6GBPIS at 6-9-6... looked for these for ages...
you mean these?
http://i.imgur.com/LWxbDUs.png

I would tell you what I paid but it would just make you mad XD

[Alex-Ro]

fuuuuuuu :D

[Splave]

I thought this was strange, have not tested these yet but wanted to see if any low bin PSC pi snuck through the cracks.
Seems the same model comes in PSC and Elpida flavors, there are no bbse white lines on the IC's though and they look the same as the psc kit from the bottom.

http://i.imgur.com/mOiqS0c.jpg

[websmile]

@PIS 2000 - these were offered to me for 130 dollars plus shipping - think you paid the same amount of money :D

[hiwa]

6GBPIS vs 6GBBPID
101610400 VS 102910401

http://i.imgur.com/LWxbDUs.png
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/845/img0003pn.jpg

[Splave]

@PIS 2000 - these were offered to me for 130 dollars plus shipping - think you paid the same amount of money :D
do you know my ebay login details or something XD

[MaJ0r]

6GBPIS vs 6GBBPID
101610400 VS 102910401

http://i.imgur.com/LWxbDUs.png
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/845/img0003pn.jpg
Which kit is better?

[Reefa_Madness]

Which kit is better?

If I'm not mistaken, it is the same product, but the one ending in "D" comes with a ram fan.

Without fan:
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=260

With fan:
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=279

[Splave]

blue ripjaws 2133 8-9-8 are 690 but bbse
Perfect Storm 2000 8-8-8 are 690 and hyper

[websmile]

I had 690 2000s tridents with hypers and 0690 ripjaws 2000 c9 with bbse, sometimes the pattern varies, and I don't have your ebay login :D, I got pn by the seller yesterday as I requested price incl. shipping a while ago for these, but my plans changed and I go out of mem testing

[Don_Dan]

I thought this was strange, have not tested these yet but wanted to see if any low bin PSC pi snuck through the cracks.
Seems the same model comes in PSC and Elpida flavors, there are no bbse white lines on the IC's though and they look the same as the psc kit from the bottom.

Maybe the 0640 kit is Elpida BDBG? How do they clock?


blue ripjaws 2133 8-9-8 are 690 but bbse
Perfect Storm 2000 8-8-8 are 690 and hyper

0690 is usually Elpida MxH-E Hyper, but there are some exceptions. :shrug:


but my plans changed and I go out of mem testing

Sure...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Got these a while ago:

http://imageshack.us/a/img854/2373/gskillripjawsx220071010.jpg

[websmile]

I predict 1200 c7-11-8-28 at 1,71v 32M judging from the kits I tested^^ - and on ddr3 is nothing left to discover except 8gb 2800C11 sticks with mfr needing 500 trfc :D

[hiwa]

If I'm not mistaken, it is the same product, but the one ending in "D" comes with a ram fan.

Without fan:
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=260

With fan:
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=279

i have PIS but i have fan too but turbulence :D

[Dumo]

These 4X4 BFR I just got, scale up better than 2400 stick..probly the settings

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1486/zzzzzzz009.jpg

[TaPaKaH]

@Dumo:
Are you sure these are BFR? What voltages do these need for 1300MHz+ CL9/CL10?

[Dumo]

@Sam:
Just quick test boot up @ 2800 11-13-13-35 hynix sets, not really sure now if this actually BFR like 2400 RpjawZ C9

She went crazy with C9 @ 2600 but managed to do C10 @ 1.63V just fine

[Don_Dan]

I predict 1200 c7-11-8-28 at 1,71v 32M judging from the kits I tested^^ - and on ddr3 is nothing left to discover except 8gb 2800C11 sticks with mfr needing 500 trfc :D

Thanks, I'll find out in due time! :p:
At least there is something left to discover! ;)


These 4X4 BFR I just got, scale up better than 2400 stick..probly the settings

I have an Ares kit with the same specs/same black PCB from week 1212 with CFR, I think all of the kits from this time frame are CFR.

[Splave]

God who would have thought this rando low bin psc kit had one of the best sticks I have XD
2 of the sticks will do this, one needs a bit looser secondaries.
http://i.imgur.com/5yyxgMR.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/Aa8apWz.jpg

[Reefa_Madness]

Nice! How much voltage did you need?

I think that I still have a few of those lying around that I haven't thrown into a Z77 board. Me thinks that I'm gonna have to get off my arse and give them a go.

[Splave]

1.92v Def worth giving a go :)

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

I am pretty sure most PSC kits that come with 2000 9-9-9 at 1.6v are a pretty good bin, usually.

I have one stick of Trident PSC at that spec that is just as good or better than my 2400 c8's.

[Don_Dan]

God who would have thought this rando low bin psc kit had one of the best sticks I have XD[/IMG]

PSC binned for 1000MHz tRCD9 at 1.6V is far from low bin! :p:


I am pretty sure most PSC kits that come with 2000 9-9-9 at 1.6v are a pretty good bin, usually.

I have one stick of Trident PSC at that spec that is just as good or better than my 2400 c8's.

:yepp:

[Splave]

haha I guess I didnt mean low bin, but not a highly sought after main stream known good clocking kit :)

[Don_Dan]

That's more like it. :rofl:

[TaPaKaH]

From my own experience and observations, BBSE and PSC on G.Skill's mid-end models (such as 2000C9) varies a lot in quality.
Occasionally, you do get lucky sticks but I would not say that those belong in quite the same league as BBSE RipjawsX or the higher PSC PIS. G.Skill have "graded" the IC quality between their BBSE and PSC lineups rather nicely if you ask me.
After getting burned on 2000C9 way too many times (by gettings sticks that are so awful that they are impossible to resell) I don't even look in their direction anymore.

[hiwa]

mixed pis 3x2gb 2000c6 and 1x trident 2000c9
All air and 1.88
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5554/screen022ny.jpg

[natu]

Hi,

nice run hiwa,can you tell me what ohter settings you use? i can run 3x2GB at the same settings with 3x2Gb G.Skill Pi 2000 Cl6 but with 4x2GB G.Skill PI 2000 Cl6 i got not exct in round in spi32 all stick's can run that speed.

[Dumo]

Got these

http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1275620/


4X4

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3939/screenshot134a.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/screenshot134a.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[websmile]

Can these do the 1300 at same settings with less voltage or is this maxed out?

[hiwa]

Hi,

nice run hiwa,can you tell me what ohter settings you use? i can run 3x2GB at the same settings with 3x2Gb G.Skill Pi 2000 Cl6 but with 4x2GB G.Skill PI 2000 Cl6 i got not exct in round in spi32 all stick's can run that speed.

nothing changed just tried 4 different PSC sticks to find one can match the 3 X 2GB and higher vdimm , they can do with 1.78 when 2 X 2

i have serious problem with my OS now, this OS was damn fast with sams last week, new install seems very slow.

[Splave]

2000 6-9-6 3x2gb only 1 stick will run 8-12-8-28-1t 2600 tight
2300 8-11-8 2x2gb kit both sticks better then the best out of the c6 kit.

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

2000 6-9-6 3x2gb only 1 stick will run 8-12-8-28-1t 2600 tight
2300 8-11-8 2x2gb kit both sticks better then the best out of the c6 kit.

Bad news, but 2300 8-11-8 is an awesome bin.

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

2000 c7 Flares aren't too bad, dropped the volts to 2.0v after trying up to 2.1 and still no 32m at these speeds, but bandwidth is impressive for sure

http://i.imgur.com/P4NTKnj.png (http://imgur.com/P4NTKnj)

[MaJ0r]

l0ud_sil3nc3
LN2 or air cooling? Thanks.

[websmile]

Will be LN2, Flare bin is nothing special - too bad we don?t have list here at xs about ddr3 mems with clocking results, since ln2 or dice is used frequently now it is hard to get real information about quality here as even bad mems look good on cold

[Don_Dan]

l0ud_sil3nc3
LN2 or air cooling? Thanks.

LN2, -94?C. ;)
Check the 5GHz 32M thread! :)

[TaPaKaH]

I wouldn't be too sure about LN2 for that screen. I have a kit that can do at least 10 loops of 32M at 1300 6-11-7-28 with 1.9V on normal air.

[Splave]

I think we know what these are, monster bbse from march 2011 :D

http://i.imgur.com/e3IQy5J.jpg

[C-N]

Ebay....... :D

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

l0ud_sil3nc3
LN2 or air cooling? Thanks.

Definitely LN2, don't think I have ever seen any PSC that can run 2600 c6 with TWCL 6 is well, especially not on air:)


I wouldn't be too sure about LN2 for that screen. I have a kit that can do at least 10 loops of 32M at 1300 6-11-7-28 with 1.9V on normal air.

Yes but that is with TWCL at 8, much easier to do, but much slower.


Will be LN2, Flare bin is nothing special - too bad we don?t have list here at xs about ddr3 mems with clocking results, since ln2 or dice is used frequently now it is hard to get real information about quality here as even bad mems look good on cold

Flare bin is not bad, better than most, plus imho any memory that can run 2700+ c7 is a pretty good bin, cold or no cold:D

Davis has a really crazy Flare kit, 2000 6-9-6 don't think it was ever retail but they are very good.

[websmile]

7-9-7 2000 is not bad, but nothing special, doesn?t even guarantee that you can do trp 7 at 1200 - 6-9-6 does

[Martin.v.r]

G.skill 2x2GB 2200MHZ cl 7-10-10-28 2T ripjaws-x chip 11051040220294
ned help to set timingset,so that can get a high Memory Write .
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2520/maxmem2400mhz.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/maxmem2400mhz.jpg/)

mem tweakit works not with whit this bios :( so I can not show my set, but can give me an idea where I should look

opdat new mem tweakIt
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6540/tweakmem.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/tweakmem.jpg/)

[XBrytanX]

are this any good ?
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=227

[Don_Dan]

Ripjaws/Trident 2000 CL9 vary a lot, some can be very good, some others might not be so great.

[Splave]

maybe this is the wrong thread or should start a different one but findings for me so far

2300 c8 Pi PSC - XDZ136A3G-A = my best kit on air and ln2, likes up to 1.95v on air
2000 c9 Ripjaws PSC - XDY531A3G-U = 3rd best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air
2200 c7 Pi PSC - XEF052A3G-A = works okay nothing special, self reboots pi over 1.92v on air
2000 c6 pi PSC - XEJ008A3G-A = slightly worse then 2200 c7 kit, self reboots pi over 1.9v on air
2400 c9 Sec5 PSC-XEE783A3G-A = 4th best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air
2400 c9 Sec5 PSC-XEA511A3G-A = 5th best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air

my question is the 3rd letter arbitrary? I do know for a fact that running my best pi kit XDZ mixed with best sector 5 kit XEE and XEA = instability no matter the voltage and temp. ( will not run 2600 8-12-8-28 even 1.95v -50c ) Perhaps its best to atleast keep the first two letters the same while running 4 sticks. From my point is XD is the best but my sample size is very small.

Hoping Hiwa, Sam, Don will chime in.

[TaPaKaH]

I never had any instability of this sort but from my experience - XD series tend to be "trp crippled" (light case - 1333MHz won't run trp 7, severe case - 1200MHz won't run trp 9 on air) more frequently than the XE stuff.

[hiwa]

on Ivy best are XDY and XDZ here, all +2600 8-12-8 tight secondary, some have problem on tertiary (depend on lock)
on SB best were XEJ if i rememebr good, caz lower freq (2300 or so) but tighter tRCD.

[Splave]

tried these 2200 c7 Pi PSC - XEF052A3G-A = works okay nothing special, self reboots pi over 1.92v on air

on ln2 10 minutes ago....doesnt like much more cold then -70c, tried volts from 1.95 - 2.1

would not run 32m like the 2300 sticks in pic below or even at 2600 these timings for that matter
http://i.imgur.com/H3NemuU.jpg

7-11-7-28-5-88 failed as well

Also cold bug -95c on them freezes system every time.

These will not do 8-12-8-27-5-84-8-5-16-5-5-6-1-1-1-1-4-4-1-4-4 32m on air 1 stick reboots, 2nd stick fails around loop 5.

[natu]

Hi,

yey XD... ar the best psc,i have one Trident Kit 3x2Gb with XDX and all stick's run 1300+ 8-12-8-28.My last Trident Kit with XEA are bad 1200 8-12-8-28 with 1.8V:(
Today came 2 Kits G.Skill RipjawsX 2133 Cl7 from 1109 and 1113

[Splave]

ran these on ln2 last night
2400 c9 Sec5 PSC-XEE783A3G-A = 4th best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air
2400 c9 Sec5 PSC-XEA511A3G-A = 5th best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air
they will run 2650 7-10-7-70 but need 2.1v's and once in a while its not stable but still pretty good.

[Ivanlabrie]

Them Sector 5's are looking good...I wanted to get a pair but could never find them cheap enough.

[Gorki]

These 4X4 BFR I just got, scale up better than 2400 stick..probly the settings

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1486/zzzzzzz009.jpg

Same model here but SN: 12421500182472
I'm not sure what should I expect from these, I grab them few weeks back for RIVE build. I still haven't remove heatsp; any thoughts? :shrug:

[Don_Dan]

1500 means they're Samsung. Rated for 1.65V or 1.5V?

[Gorki]

1500 means they're Samsung. Rated for 1.65V or 1.5V? 1.65v labeled on sticker, same goes for XMP 1.3 profile.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6259/62578997.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/62578997.png/)

[Reefa_Madness]

1.65v labeled on sticker, same goes for XMP 1.3 profile.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6259/62578997.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/62578997.png/)

Single-sided, or double-sided modules?

[Gorki]

Single-sided, or double-sided modules? double sided.

[TaPaKaH]

In this case, they are either Samsung 2Gbit revision D (aka the good ones) or revision E (aka the new and not so good ones).

[hiwa]

Tridents 16000 9-9-9-24 1.65 BBSE kit is very nice
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280903-SuperPi32m-5Ghz-Ivy-All-Out-Challenge!&p=5173907&viewfull=1#post5173907

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6937/dsc00801bf.jpg

[Martin.v.r]

opdat max MHZ 2600MHZ AIR 1.75v ?but very far from stable

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3540/2600mhz.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/2600mhz.jpg/)

[hiwa]

you just maybe set some timings wrong for PSC martin, try auto on third first and 1.90 Vdimm
set 8-12-8-28-1t tRRD:5 tRTP:6 tWR:10 tFAW: 24 tWTR: 6 tCKE:6 then boot if you are stable try first tight secondary timings,

[Martin.v.r]

AUTO set = They start not up to 2400MHz, with the set you wrote before, they can 2500MHz 8-12-8....

[SoF]

Sorry for the video-bomb but I think SF3D is doing it wrong searching the serial on these cherry G.Skill PSC :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IbTGxDtWVTI

Sticks are fine - sure Petri knows his job :cool:

Another funny part of the video - whenever memory gets tortured past the last 7 years of Cebit....Saaya must be around :hehe:

[Viss]

Looks like BBSE to me :D

[websmile]

Could also be GBXHD with PSC, 2200c7 or 2133C7 for example :D - it were not only GBXMD had these HS with black PCB ^^

[Viss]

Its a blue HS, didnt the 2133 and 2200CL7 come in black only?

[websmile]

I also had 2133c9-10-9 psc with black PCB, this is nothing new as well - seems gskill did like they had fun with :D - but you are right, black pcb and blue hs is normally bbse

[SoF]

Asked them twice if worth taking the hs off and these are some rare, very good g.skill with very good PSC iirc ;)
even petri struggled at first but looking what they pushed out of it in the end - was worth it :D

[TaPaKaH]

RipjawsX heatspreaders are extremely easy to remove, I had a couple of 2133C8 kits on which the HS would come off whenever you're pulling the mem out of the slot.
If you've been to Kiev, you wouldn't let Petri do the HS removal though :D

[MaJ0r]

if you've been to kiev, you wouldn't let petri do the hs removal though :d
Lol )

[hiwa]

Bought one more Trident 16000 C9 from ebay de today

[Don_Dan]

How come I didn't see them?! :rofl:

[hiwa]

How come I didn't see them?! :rofl:

because were there less than 30 minutes ? :D
F3-16000CL9T-6GBTDD
11091040

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/968/screenshot20130314at844.png

german friends check this ebayer guy sometimes he has a lot of PSC and BBSE for sell :D

[Don_Dan]

I see, very sneaky! :D

[TaPaKaH]

actually, this stick has been on ebay forever (relisted many times) ... not many people are crazy enough to pay 40 euros just for one stick of Tridents :D

[Don_Dan]

Hahaha, I agree! I think I saw that auction some time ago. :rofl:

[hiwa]

oh :banana::banana::banana::banana: that one stick lol , i thought it's a kit hahahaha

[stunned_guy]

Found some 0940 ic on F3-8500CL7D-2GBNQ single sided with black pcb. Will look after the ic.

[websmile]

Happy de-assembling :D

[Don_Dan]

Found some 0940 ic on F3-8500CL7D-2GBNQ single sided with black pcb. Will look after the ic.

Yay! :cheer: