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tiborrr
10-11-2011, 04:12 AM
The newest EK-VGA Supreme HF Bridge Editon waterblock is designed for use with parallel flow EK-FC Bridge system. Say goodbye to the awkward tubing & fitting connection of multiple GPU blocks. EK's Bridge system is a proven flow interconnect system which has been used for years on EK-FC series waterblock. This very same system is now available for GPU only waterblock EK-VGA Supreme HF.

EK-VGA Supreme HF Bridge Edition fits on all EK-FC Bridge connectors but it is designed to work properly only with parallel flow versions.

The Acetal top portion of the waterblock will also be available for purchase separately. The waterblock top also feature two G1/4 threaded ports which allow for installation of the EK-PSC 13mm fittings and other types of (angled) barbs/fittings.

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EK-VGA Supreme HF Bridge edition will be available after November 1st 2011, MSRP price is yet to be confirmed.

Best Regards,
Niko :up:

Avathar77
10-11-2011, 04:20 AM
Wow great!
But what about those ram chips it is covering? Usually, have to put some ram sinks on top of the ram chips isn't it?

tiborrr
10-11-2011, 04:34 AM
Thank you! :up:

It is not covering any RAM, there is quite a gap in between, about 9.6mm!
You can use almost any aftermarket BGA RAM heatsinks. We recommend the ones we tested though: http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/akasa-ak-vmc01-bk-vga-ram-heatsinks.html

http://file.si/pfiles/206613/DSC_0112.JPG

Regards,
Niko

Church
10-11-2011, 04:38 AM
Finally :) :up:

tiborrr: can you clarify "only with parallel" bit?

RCG_Bex
10-11-2011, 04:49 AM
Beautiful :D

mav2000
10-11-2011, 04:59 AM
Awesome...maybe this will push me to get GPU only blocks....

tiborrr
10-11-2011, 05:02 AM
can you clarify "only with parallel" bit?
As the Supreme sytle waterblock has dedicated inlet and outlet ports it is mandatory to use only parallel EK-FC Bridges in order to achieve best possible temperatures. Otherwise the water will flow in wrong direction in second waterblock (when using EK-FC Bridge DUAL serial or TRIPLE serial).

zalbard
10-11-2011, 05:38 AM
Fantastic job, guys! :up:
Might make me move to GPU-only blocks the next time cause they are finally optimised for multi-GPU setups while staying affordable.

guilleguillaume
10-11-2011, 05:43 AM
Fantastic job.

I assume that we can use the new acetal top even with only one GPU?

guilleguillaume
10-11-2011, 05:43 AM
Double post, sorry.

Church
10-11-2011, 05:44 AM
tiborrr: Oh, i see, thanks for info. Somehow universal block flow direction bit slipped my mind. BTW, can you tell how much space is between this block top and mem chips below it?

c.ruel
10-11-2011, 06:01 AM
This is exactly what I need, can't believe you read my mind EKWB and did it ... awesome!

PatRaceTin
10-11-2011, 06:02 AM
if you use universal VGA Block

don't forget to put some Heatsink on VRM area!!!

tiborrr
10-11-2011, 06:33 AM
BTW, can you tell how much space is between this block top and mem chips below it?
RAM chips are usualy around 1-1.05mm high, therefore there is around ~8.5mm of space. Plenty :up:

Church
10-11-2011, 06:46 AM
tiborrr: i was more thinking along the lines how much space for mini heatsinks on ram chips when asking that. Hmm, 8.5mm. Probably some fin bending may be required on those minisinks.

tiborrr
10-11-2011, 06:55 AM
These fit perfectly: http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/akasa-ak-vmc01-bk-vga-ram-heatsinks.html

Any low profile BGA heat sink is a go! :up:

Levesque
10-11-2011, 06:57 AM
Good timing! I wanted this for my Tri-Fire set-up with 3X Lightning 6970 and 3X EK-VGA. Will ask my reseller to order some. :)

Devil_Dog
10-11-2011, 07:22 AM
Tiborr. These look great and I'm very interested in getting these when they are released but I do have some concerns and questions.

First, the ramsinks you are recommending is a no go here in the US. They are not available here. So as an alternative would these fit? http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=137&products_id=22612

Second, how much does the block extend out from the PCB? Some of the nonreference cards have a wider PCB. For example the ASUS ROG Matrix 580 GTX. Would there be enough clearance to to mount the bridge on the wider cards? It would really suck for someone to purchase these and find out that it will not work with the bridge due to this.

Thanks

s002wjh
10-11-2011, 08:01 AM
i wonder if the video cards stock ram heatsink cover still can be mounted using these GPU only block. see below this allow using stock heatsink too cool ram/mosfet + a fan to cool it
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Church
10-11-2011, 08:17 AM
Devil_Dog: ones mentioned by you have 9mm height in specs. For these you'll probably have to dremel a bit off or bend pins sideways.
From ppcs these (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_196_692&products_id=28065) look look like ones @EK's shop (but currently out of stock).
These (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_197&products_id=4292) & these (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_196_686&products_id=2026) have height specified as less then 8.5mm, no clue how high are this (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_196_689&products_id=24661), this (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_196_686&products_id=29437), this (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_196_686&products_id=29701) and this (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_196_686&products_id=29702).

Devil_Dog
10-11-2011, 08:34 AM
Thank you! :up:

It is not covering any RAM, there is quite a gap in between, about 9.6mm!


^ this is why I asked. If there is that amount of space the ones I linked should work.


Devil_Dog: ones mentioned by you have 9mm height in specs. For these you'll probably have to dremel a bit off or bend pins sideways.
From ppcs these (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_196_692&products_id=28065) look look like ones @EK's shop (but currently out of stock). They have been out of stock for a long time.

I looked at the other ones as well. It's hard to say but it looks like they may fit.:shrug:

Kayin
10-11-2011, 08:59 AM
Really nice work, tiborrr!

tiborrr
10-11-2011, 09:45 AM
Thank you all! :up:

@Devil Dog:

Tiborr. These look great and I'm very interested in getting these when they are released but I do have some concerns and questions.

First, the ramsinks you are recommending is a no go here in the US. They are not available here. So as an alternative would these fit? http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22612

Second, how much does the block extend out from the PCB? Some of the nonreference cards have a wider PCB. For example the ASUS ROG Matrix 580 GTX. Would there be enough clearance to to mount the bridge on the wider cards? It would really suck for someone to purchase these and find out that it will not work with the bridge due to this.

These are all valid concerns. I'm affraid Enzotechs are a tad too high, I would recommend low profile heatsinks like Scythe's and Zalman's.

Regarding the width. This is designed with ASUS 580/570 DCII in mind (which has the same width as Matrix). There will be enough of a gap.

Devil_Dog
10-11-2011, 09:56 AM
Thank you all! :up:

@Devil Dog:

These are all valid concerns. I'm affraid Enzotechs are a tad too high, I would recommend low profile heatsinks like Scythe's and Zalman's.

Regarding the width. This is designed with ASUS 580/570 DCII in mind (which has the same width as Matrix). There will be enough of a gap.

Thanks tiborrr. Have any other pics? Internal, base of the block?

tiborrr
10-11-2011, 10:11 AM
The waterblock's internals are the same as EK-VGA Supreme HF. It sports the same metal base and jet plate. This is why user could just simply purchase Bridge Edition top only and replace the existing EK-VGA Supreme HF top. No need to purchase the whole waterblock if you already own the original version :up:

Hope this picture helps:
http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/blocks/vga-blocks/universal-vga-blocks/vga-supreme-hf/ek-vga-supreme-hf-plexi.html

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/e/k/ek-vga_supreme_hf-copper_front_600.jpg

tiborrr
10-11-2011, 10:43 AM
I have changed the news a bit:

The gap of ~9.6mm between the PCB and GPUs is measured on the Radeon HD6970 (e.g. more or less any naked chip), the gap between the PCB and the plastic top is bigger on the heatspreader featuring GPU (i.e. GeForce GTX 580) - about ~ 11mm.

lowfat
10-11-2011, 03:41 PM
Any idea if these will fit on cards like the MSI Lightning GTX580s, which have a much wider PCB than other reference cards? If so I'll grab one (or two) as soon as they are available @ PPCS. I think they look fantastic.

DarthBeavis
10-11-2011, 03:46 PM
EK should make matching ram heatsinks

hydr0x
10-11-2011, 05:49 PM
Love it, just love it.

Just baught the Nickel HF edition for my 6870 and i was wondering how hard it was going to be when i get a second for Xfire.

this just makes everything a lot easier and will be added to my Xmas shopping list

Cheers guys :D your making Watercooling "cooler" every day :)

Hx.

avddreamr
10-11-2011, 05:54 PM
Outstanding design as usual.

s002wjh
10-13-2011, 06:51 AM
any pic on how the bridge extender connect to vga supreme

Levesque
10-13-2011, 07:01 AM
So no love for the MSI Lightnings Tiborrr?

I have 4 Lightning with 4 EK-VGA Supreme, and I have to go with Swiftech to get a bridge? :( Should have bought the Swiftech MCW82 instead... :(

My Lightnings look like tanks with EK double barrels guns. :)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6222/6240010329_ae5a161359_b.jpg

s002wjh
10-13-2011, 09:37 AM
So no love for the MSI Lightnings Tiborrr?

I have 4 Lightning with 4 EK-VGA Supreme, and I have to go with Swiftech to get a bridge? :( Should have bought the Swiftech MCW82 instead... :(

My Lightnings look like tanks with EK double barrels guns. :)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6222/6240010329_ae5a161359_b.jpg

isn't that the soviet tank in Red alert? i think it was called the mammoth tank. ill bet it can do alot dmg :)

Levesque
10-13-2011, 10:06 AM
isn't that the soviet tank in Red alert? i think it was called the mammoth tank. ill bet it can do alot dmg :)

I like that! The ''Mammoth tank''!

Yeah, I'm beating every 580 Tri-SLI set-ups on OCN in Metro 2033 bench right now... doing alot of damage. :)

thobel
10-14-2011, 11:09 AM
So is this just a sli vs tri sli bridge like this one?

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad236/thobel/3way.jpg

Church
10-15-2011, 07:29 AM
thobel: it's universal gpu block with changed top (or separately sold top for upgrade of existing universal blocks) with inlets placed above gpu PCB's side in fullcover block fashion, that allows usage of such SLI bridge, not bridge itself.

ggdh
10-16-2011, 06:13 AM
tiborr, can you post pictures of the block and of the top only? It would make clear to everyone what we are talking about...

tiborrr
10-17-2011, 03:35 AM
Forgot to mention, this will be available in plexi too. It's a challenge to drill the hole this deep but we have solved it! :up:

Here's the top itself:

http://file.si/pfiles/207276/DSC_0137.JPG

ggdh
10-17-2011, 05:47 AM
Cool. Any estimation of price?

Veeery long shot: will that be possible to connect it using parallel bridge with, let say, EK5870 FC block with respective link?

Church
10-17-2011, 07:57 AM
ggdh: i doubt about that (just as i doubt about if it's possible to connect different gpu FCs with SLI bridges). - To be able to do that inlets need to be lined up. They for sure are for both new universal blocks on same gpu-s, and same for same type of full covers, but if you mix them there is little chance for them to be positioned at same distance. For mixing full cover blocks and universal ones one should rather use something like swiftech's SLI bridge, were instead of hard mount fittings and tubing are still used to connect blocks with SLI bridge.

ggdh
10-18-2011, 12:00 AM
IMHO i had all reasons to ask this question: by looking at photos of CF with HFs and CF with FCs proportions are quite the same. And if there is only small difference (say: 2-3mm) what about placing Acetal spacer between FC's link (or HF's link - depends which is longer) and bridge itself.

I assume if it is possible to use the same bridge, the distance between inlet and outlet in both cases (HF and FC) has to be the same. Tiborr?

Church
10-18-2011, 08:18 AM
ggdh: as same bridges are used for both these new universal blocks & fullcovers, distance between inlet and outlet most probably is same already. Problem is that on different cards/blocks both inlet and outlet may be placed at different distance from back of case/end of card. On one - slightly to the right, on another - slightly to the left, with both inlet & outlet misaligned from inlet & outlet on different type of waterblock thus probably striking out option of mixing different gpus and different waterblock types. You can ask Eddy or tyborrr for check of inlet placement for some particular/specific cards/blocks, but i highly doubt in majority of different blocks being aligned.

skinnee
10-18-2011, 08:49 AM
I originally saw the 8.5mm clearance as not enough, but I see the predicament...

If you want to maintain the highest flow, you're going to need big bores through the connector to the block. In order to do that you're going to need that space over the ram. Increasing the clearance means you'll reduce the bore diameter of the connectors, thus increasing restriction and reducing flow.

Well done with the hand you were dealt EK! :up:

Church
10-19-2011, 12:14 AM
skinnee: there is option of not round bores for both lower overall height of top / more clearance above ram and still keeping big cross-section by going from round to wider/lower. Might be more expensive to manufacture though(?).

ggdh
10-19-2011, 05:13 AM
Churchy: I should have specified: two 5870s, one with FC, another with HF Supreme.

tiborrr
10-19-2011, 05:20 AM
Thank you for that compliment, skineee :up:

ggdh: sorry, but that's not gonna happen. The ports on FC5870 are not aligned with the EK-VGA Supreme HF (Bridge Edition)

ggdh
10-19-2011, 07:06 AM
Pity :up:

Devil_Dog
10-19-2011, 09:37 AM
Do we have a price for these yet? Also, you stated that they will be released on November 1. Any idea when they might be available is the US?

lowfat
10-19-2011, 09:58 AM
EK should make matching ram heatsinks

Agreed.

Accerian
10-19-2011, 10:14 AM
Imo lower fitting place should be redesigned. It should be between card to not interfere with power cables and with power cables slots ;)
As on the screen

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wondergod
10-19-2011, 11:55 PM
Imo lower fitting place should be redesigned. It should be between card to not interfere with power cables and with power cables slots ;)
As on the screen

I don't think you have to use that fitting if you don't want. I'm sure you can use the one on the bottom right and get the same effect.

SoMBrA
10-21-2011, 11:49 AM
So no love for the MSI Lightnings Tiborrr?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6222/6240010329_ae5a161359_b.jpg

I'm also interested in this, will this bridge work with the MSI Ligthning with EK Universal water blocks installed?

Thanks.

hillywav
10-26-2011, 03:00 AM
just want to clear up,

so if i already have the old vga supreme hf, i just need to buy the top and the parallel bridge?

tiborrr
10-26-2011, 03:16 AM
hillywav: True.

The Bridge Edition waterblocks will be available for purchase next week!

Alexandr0s
10-27-2011, 12:41 AM
Just something I'm curious about: say you have 2 GTX 590 (I know, crazy :eek:!), would it be possible to use two of those sets to cool those 4 GPU's?

Also, I assume this product scales along nicely with 3-way and 4-way SLI/Crossfire?

ggdh
10-27-2011, 03:55 AM
I see no reasons why it shouldn't be possible. You use 4 block and two bridges - bridges have outlets/inlets on sides so connection should be easy.

If I knew about bridge edition earlier I would wait and get one. Instead I got normal HF block only 3 weeks ago and will have to get ~€15 top...

Church
10-27-2011, 06:04 AM
tiborrr: you can post some renders with 590/6990 dual gpu cards && these, it might look interesting indeed. :)
I'm thinking though that such higher end cards definitely need some extra cooling on mosfets, so maybe not best candidates for universal blocks, unless it gets taken care of.

wondergod
10-27-2011, 09:56 AM
5 more days! Are these only going to be available on Ek's website on Nov 1st or other water cooling shops? If other shops any idea which ones? Waiting to add to my cart :)

ah_khoo
11-09-2011, 07:14 AM
hi tiborrr:

i have 2 pieces of sapphire 5830 extreme, wonder can these bridge edition blocks can fit on 'em? pls advice, thanks in advance. :)

lowfat
11-09-2011, 09:26 AM
hi tiborrr:

i have 2 pieces of sapphire 5830 extreme, wonder can these bridge edition blocks can fit on 'em? pls advice, thanks in advance. :)

I don't see why they wouldn't. The only cards that should have issues are ones with a wide pcb like the Lightnings.

kroks
11-09-2011, 12:58 PM
in stock!! :)
http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_36_6.jpg
2 LED slots would have been better, not sure if this is the best place for a nice effect with LED :(
Anyway, are you planning on releasing EK-FC Bridge in plexi too? :)

Church
11-09-2011, 02:42 PM
I wonder if there was need to make transparent tops. Imho just one, black, was sufficient, as it goes so well together with looks of SLI/CF bridge itself.

lowfat
11-09-2011, 04:43 PM
I wonder if there was need to make transparent tops. Imho just one, black, was sufficient, as it goes so well together with looks of SLI/CF bridge itself.

Agreed. I think the acrylic top actually looks out of place with this block.

tiborrr
11-10-2011, 01:49 AM
Yes, HD5830 Extreme fits this waterblock :)

We're working on a plexi FC Bridge, but at this time we're optimizing the production to achieve best finish quality and to make it economically viable.

lowfat
11-16-2011, 10:53 AM
I see Performance PC's has replacement tops available now. But not entire blocks. Hopefully we'll see the entire complete block available in North America soon.

tiborrr
11-17-2011, 02:42 PM
They should be available next week in North Americas IIRC.

tiborrr
11-18-2011, 05:26 AM
Here are the prototype plexi bridge's I have promised earlier. Right one is a bit scratched though but the boring of the holes is perfect :)

(serial sample though as the machine was programmed for serials when this prototype was made)

http://file.si/pfiles/212156/DSC_0234%20%282%29.JPG

hillywav
12-01-2011, 02:08 PM
hi tiborrr, do i get a O ring when i buy a new top for my current vga-supreme hf?

tiborrr
12-01-2011, 03:45 PM
Hi,

yes, an o-ring set is included with the EK-TOP kits.

NKrader
12-01-2011, 04:54 PM
why dont you guys offer a full cover heatsinks?

does this block fit with swiftech full cover airsinks?

the only way that I would buy this block is if I could get a full cover heatsink for it. :up:

tiborrr
12-02-2011, 12:33 AM
NKRader: Perhaps with upcoming generation of graphics cards? :)

lapoune
12-10-2011, 06:16 PM
Hi Tiborr

Do you know where we can get only the replacement top? In US\Canada...

Do you have an estimated availability for the plexi bridge?

Thanks!

hydr0x
12-11-2011, 01:54 PM
Hi, will you be producing a plexi version of EK-FC Bridge DUAL Serial 3-Slot?

also release date? as i want these so bad :D

nice work as ever guys, i have one of the new VGA tops allready, they look awesome and work perfectly.
can't wait to get another card and another block to Xfire them using the Bridge.

Ace.
12-12-2011, 11:05 AM
Looks very good this Bridge :up:

R104_for
01-26-2012, 09:17 AM
Here are the prototype plexi bridge's I have promised earlier. Right one is a bit scratched though but the boring of the holes is perfect :)

(serial sample though as the machine was programmed for serials when this prototype was made)

http://file.si/pfiles/212156/DSC_0234%20%282%29.JPG


Is this product available?

ah_khoo
02-09-2012, 07:47 AM
hi tiborrr,

would like to ask whether d block will fit onto MSI GTX580 Lightning, as i can't find it in the compatibility list. :)