NF7 Silver Caps?

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

I heard alot about those new NF7 boards that would not do high FSB if they had silver caps on the board..

May be a lame question:stick: But what is caps? And can anybody show me where they are placed? And what they are suppose to look like and not suppose to?


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S!1v3rB@cK_Dk

[Penti]

Capacitors.

Looks like this
http://www.elfa.se/images/lowres/l5771.jpg

Are located next to the mosfets, etc. Are there to stabilize the voltage in laymans term and is a part of the PWM voltage regulation.

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

Originally posted by Penti
Capacitors.

Looks like this
http://www.elfa.se/images/lowres/l5771.jpg

Are located next to the mosfets, etc. Are there to stabilize the voltage in laymans term and is a part of the PWM voltage regulation.

Ok, it was what I thought it was.. But could anyone show me a picture of the location on the board.. And how the silver caps look like?

[x1zt]

Read what Penti wrote,


Are located next to the mosfets, etc. Are there to stabilize the voltage in laymans term and is a part of the PWM voltage regulation.

an here is the pic again
http://www.elfa.se/images/lowres/l5771.jpg

[Penti]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22656&highlight=silver+and+caps

Originally posted by TechTones
I just got a new NF7-S version 2.0.
But, this one has 4 big silver caps around the mosfets instead of the black ones I had on the last 2.0



http://www.ocshoot.no/hovedkort/abit/abit_nf7_20/hele-lite.jpg

Pretty much describes where. The 4 that does has room between them.

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

K.. Thanks guys, im getting a new NF7-s later today

[Redskin]

here:D

[Dirty_Punk]

mine also have silver caps

[Penti]

I hope you get a better board then me then ;)

[Volcom]

Mine too but mine is about 5monts old lol??? Oh well :)

[Dirty_Punk]

Originally posted by Penti
I hope you get a better board then me then ;)

mine is strange... with bh5 won't overclock at all, have sticks that can do 250mhz and on this mobo won't go over 220...
but with PC4000 works very well

http://digilander.libero.it/DirtyPunker/pc4000.JPG

this is unmodded NF7-S V2.0 and 1.5v vdd (the berst settings)

[Volcom]

Damm r u watercooling dude? Or is it cold there? NICE

[Penti]

Originally posted by Dirty_Punk
mine is strange... with bh5 won't overclock at all, have sticks that can do 250mhz and on this mobo won't go over 220...
but with PC4000 works very well

http://digilander.libero.it/DirtyPunker/pc4000.JPG

this is unmodded NF7-S V2.0 and 1.5v vdd (the berst settings)

Mine is strange too, i cant get 230 stable no matter what.
Cpu Interface disabled doesn't even give 1MHz.
229MHz 2-2-2-5 is stable with 2V Vdd thats max, it can't take 230 even if i run 2.1V or even 2.16v VDD.
This is with my BH-5, but it doesn't go furter with my samsung DTL wich does 198 2-3-2-6 3.4V totaly stable, super pi 1M in 2-2-2-5 202.5MHz 3.5V. Should do 220 2.5-3-3-7 with 2.9V, so it should be able to take 230 with higher voltage and 2.5-4-4-8(Did a super pi in 229 that was it). But it don't. No bios (Have testet 5, 2 D10, D18 and D22) give any difference at all in overclocking. Did 225 unmodded, stock cooling, this sucks.

What month are yours manufactured in or what bios did it came with?

[Dirty_Punk]

cpu is cooled with T-Rex thermoelectric watercooling with 226w tec interated powered at 10v, so about 150w and fresh water cooled by dehumidifier modded
chipset is watercoled with always fresh water but no gain from watercooling over stock cooling... :(

[Dirty_Punk]

Originally posted by Penti
Mine is strange too, i cant get 230 stable no matter what.
Cpu Interface disabled doesn't even give 1MHz.
229MHz 2-2-2-5 is stable with 2V Vdd thats max, it can't take 230 even if i run 2.1V or even 2.16v VDD.
This is with my BH-5, but it doesn't go furter with my samsung DTL wich does 198 2-3-2-6 3.4V totaly stable, super pi 1M in 2-2-2-5 202.5MHz 3.5V. Should do 220 2.5-3-3-7 with 2.9V, so it should be able to take 230 with higher voltage and 2.5-4-4-8(Did a super pi in 229 that was it). But it don't. No bios (Have testet 5, 2 D10, D18 and D22) give any difference at all in overclocking. Did 225 unmodded, stock cooling, this sucks.

What month are yours manufactured in or what bios did it came with?

came with bios 20, don't know the month of manufacturing, buyed about 1 month ago

[Penti]

Originally posted by Dirty_Punk
came with bios 20, don't know the month of manufacturing, buyed about 1 month ago

Around november/december then. Mine are from late August, came with 18.

Sucks to have memories that does 250 2-2-2-5 pretty easy and a board that stops at 229 no matter what ;)

Doesn't Cpu interface disable give like 15MHz for others?

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

Just got the board last night! And it have silver Caps :(
With my old NF7 (Black caps) i could do 215max! And same with the new board! Hmm.. It os not my board, since i tried some KHX3500 Ch-5 that will do 230@2.9v, but that is in memtest86, in prime 95 it fails everything above 205Mhz! Could it be my Barton that wont go any higher? Or the PSU? I have a Enermax 430w PSU, and winbond hardware doctor says that my (Vio is 3.26) and (3.3v dual is 3.45-3.50)....

[Stang_Man]

I think the silver capped version of the NF7 likes CH-5 a lot better..

I had one, and with BH-5, it wouldn't do more than 220FSB. Got a different one with black caps, and it did 230 outta the box, posting at 245.

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

Sound good about the BH-5, since i have got that :) But i cant get it stable at over 215Mhz

[Robin BP]

Originally posted by S!1v3rB@cK_Dk
Just got the board last night! And it have silver Caps :(
With my old NF7 (Black caps) i could do 215max! And same with the new board! Hmm.. It os not my board, since i tried some KHX3500 Ch-5 that will do 230@2.9v, but that is in memtest86, in prime 95 it fails everything above 205Mhz! Could it be my Barton that wont go any higher? Or the PSU? I have a Enermax 430w PSU, and winbond hardware doctor says that my (Vio is 3.26) and (3.3v dual is 3.45-3.50)....

Dont know about the NF7 like the CH-5 better since i cant max out mem with this board.:(

[BMORIN]

I have a silver capped NF7-S sitting here that I haven't tried yet. I'll try to free up some time and post some results with my bh-5.

I have a black capped rev.2 right now that can only do 220 with cpu interface enabled. I have every possible mod done for a high fsb and can't get any better. I think it has a dual channel issue as I can crank a high fsb with single channel. I'll see if this silver capped does any better. If it doesn't, I'm going to pay restocking fee and get a DFI

[BMORIN]

Well, seems that I am stable at 225fsb w/ cpu interface enabled. Any higher and '01 crashes to desktop, same problem with my previous mobo. My problem must not be with my board.

[Sovereignty]

New NF7's and all AN7's are designed for CH5, and thus suck when you put some BH5 goodness in them.

My old nf7 with black caps did 235ish unmodded with BH5 @ 2225 and i think ram was holding me back at that point. New AN7 wouldnt do 2-2-2 with the same ram no matter what.

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

Originally posted by Dirty_Punk
mine is strange... with bh5 won't overclock at all, have sticks that can do 250mhz and on this mobo won't go over 220...
but with PC4000 works very well

http://digilander.libero.it/DirtyPunker/pc4000.JPG

this is unmodded NF7-S V2.0 and 1.5v vdd (the berst settings)

I was kind of curious about, what memory you are using, and with what chips?

[Dirty_Punk]

Originally posted by Stang_Man
I think the silver capped version of the NF7 likes CH-5 a lot better..

I had one, and with BH-5, it wouldn't do more than 220FSB. Got a different one with black caps, and it did 230 outta the box, posting at 245.

not sure...
i have played a little with my mobo with silvercaps...
the problem is on clockgen.. if i set 200mhz via bios and via clockgen raise the fsb up to 215 have great stability problem, if i set directly 215mhz via bios no problem... so up to 235mhz in single, because my mobo with 2.9v via bios give only 2.93v.... won't overvolt a lot like others..

but this with BH5
i have a great stick of CH5 that can do 250mhz 3.1-3.2v 2-2-2-5, but this stick that on old nf7-s v2.0 works perfectly up to 250mhz on slot 3, now on slot 2 won't boot, on slot 1 works bad an on slot 3 won't go over 220mhz (yes, at 2.9v but it's very low as overclock because on old nf7 can do 240mhz at 3v full stable...)

so CH5 works better on ANY nf7 (an7 don't know) but sometimes won't work at all...


for S!1v3rB@cK_Dk
2*A-Data PC4000

[Penti]

How much fsb does Cpu Interface disable give for you guys?

[Dirty_Punk]

Originally posted by Penti
How much fsb does Cpu Interface disable give for you guys?

with bios 10 about 5mhz
with bios 14 or greather from 15 to 30mhz, but this because with bios 10 you can get the hightest FSB with cpu int enable, like 240 with bios 10 and only 220 with bios >14...

[Robin BP]

Will it be safe to flash to bios 10 when i have the latest??

[Dirty_Punk]

Originally posted by Robin BP
Will it be safe to flash to bios 10 when i have the latest??

if you don't use s.ata yes, no problem, only you must use winflash or abit flashmenu

[Robin BP]

Just tried it and it was a no go,no diff for me at all even with cpu interface disable.
Funny thing my mem is stabel all way up at 2,8V 227 Fsb when running memtest.But not prime,so i cant figure out what my problem is other than the board.

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

Originally posted by Robin BP
Just tried it and it was a no go,no diff for me at all even with cpu interface disable.
Funny thing my mem is stabel all way up at 2,8V 227 Fsb when running memtest.But not prime,so i cant figure out what my problem is other than the board.

Strange, my mem is the same as your´s but when i give it 2.9-3.0 it will fail... And it is allways stable in memtest but not prime:stick: