Corsair H50 worse then stock?

[NEOAethyr]

Hey dudes, so I just got the corsair h50, was on sale at bestbuy for $50.
I can't buy a comparable heatsink for that price.

From what I've seen in the past for reviews they say it's about on par with the ultra-120.
Plus the fact that I can mount the rad at the back of my case and remove the heat instead of just recycling it over and over.
Perfect...

I did a 40 min test run with it not on my cpu, to check for leaks, no prob, there must of been an air bubble in there for a sec though...

Anyways, all good, I mounted it on my cpu, it was pain in the royal butt I thought...

Anyways I bootup, my pc was off for an hour, cpu at 1.1v.
Booting at 37c at 1.1v, that sucks, really sucks...

Windows is about the same.
I'm idling right now at 39c, at 1.1v.
I'm pissed to say the least.
My stock cooling was better then this.

Right now I've got 1 fan on it, a panaflo 120mm ultra high speed, a 115cfm fan.
If I max the fan out, the diode temps are still over 21c, socket temps whatever, not important.
My stock heatsink idled at 19c at this type of ambient temp, I'm sweating that's how hot it is in here.

I can't install the rad outside of the case because I'de need to disconnect the tubing for it, that's not gonna happen.

The only thing I can think of is install a 2nd fan but I'm not sure if it's gonna help much.

Is this supposed to be like this?
I mean come on, there's no way this could even get close to competing to a ultra-120.
Not when it's worse then a stock phenom x6 heatsink.

Should I overvolt it or something?
Probably not a good idea but shoot...
1400rpm the norm?

Keh my nb is now 48c, man...
This isn't cool :(.

I'm wondering if I should just return it and get my money back, if they will let me.

edit;
Whoa... my vga card is 20c higher then norm...
Now at 50c nb too.

[warriorpoet]

Tower heatsinks and rear-mounted rads do nothing for case airflow. You buy a CPU cooler to cool your CPU, not your case.

[Manicdan]

use it as an intake, and other fans as exhaust.
how many intake vs exhaust fans do you have? if your gpu temp is going up, then it sounds like you have that part really unbalanced.

[NEOAethyr]

@warriorpoet
lol if you say so...

Anyways I installed a 2nd fan on the rad and it brought it down about 2c.
I'm gonna leave my fans maxed out and see if she reaches 19c on the diode temp.

@Manicdan
That's what I figured too, the 2x 120mm's on the side of my case must cool the vga down quite a bit even though they are very weak, light up fans.
Right now I have the side of my case off because I can't fit it on there yet, one of my rad fan's needs to go outside of the case.

Right now, the rad is in the rear of my case.
Open case.
Panaflo on pull(out), corsair fan on the push part(in).

A sec ago when I turned off my pc to add the 2nd fan, the corsair one, the rad wasn't hot at all, the pump was a litle warm but not bad.
I'm powering the pump with my motherboard, I'll try a diff src for power later on today.

The temps seem steady, even though they are a bit high.
It might handle load alot better so maybe it's ok.

[thegcpu]

Remount the block. Make sure that your TIM was spred good, as you said it was a PAIN to install.

[newls1]

update????

[warriorpoet]

@warriorpoet
lol if you say so...

You are talking about your nb temps, right?

So think about this logically:

1. Right now you have your CPU fan in place of your exhaust fan, and that fan is pushing through a rad now where before it was only dealing with some sort of low-restriction fan grill, right?

2. And right now you have one less fan in your system than you did before (cpu fan) blowing on your mb, right?

3. And you are cooling your CPU with 48c mb air, right?

solution a: Reverse airflow (as suggested), pulling cold air in through the back and exhausting air out the side (I think that's how your case is set up, no?).

solution b: Aim another fan at your mb to cool components no longer cooled by your downward-facing CPU fan if solution a isn't enough.

[NEOAethyr]

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2374/unledpox.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2374/unledpox.jpg)

This is my current temps with the h50.
I turned on the air conditioner a few mins ago and I'm waiting for my room to cool to the 70f's, it's probably 80 something right now.

I have a feeling that ambients are gonna be important.

I will redo the tim and such later on.
I also gotta move my 120mm panaflo outide the case, then hopefully I can put my side panel back on to cool the mobo and vga a bit more.
That was the plan to begin with but the 120's in the side panel knock up against the rad right now, it won't fit, I'll figure something out though.

I got a buddy coming over any time now so for now this is the best I can do, I'll just wait it out and see if she goes down in temps.
If she does, I'll clock her up and see how the h50 reacts.

No hardlocks yet, not saying it won't happen but so far it seems that might be a issue of the past, hopefully.

[warriorpoet]

...I have a feeling that ambients are gonna be important...

:yepp:

[NEOAethyr]

I've just been waiting for my buddy to get here, I was laying down for a little bit there.
Here's my current temps, ambients are down now.
I wish I had my optional sensors plugged in so I knew what ambient was, it's much cooler in my room though.
She did hardlock on me once, but it's cooled down a bit since then.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7411/unled2p.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7411/unled2p.jpg)

I can't put the rad in front of my case.
It doesn't look like it will reach, a good 4 inches + short.

I'll have more info tonight :up:.


Edit:
For the heck of it I checked load temps.

Same boot as the previous screen, 3.25ghz:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6777/unledrk.th.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6777/unledrk.jpg)

I enabled turbo, 3.5ghz norm, 4ghz turbo (turbo increases voltage by 0.1v when it kicks in):
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8403/30156885.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8403/30156885.jpg)

I believe my voltages are, 1.15v, 1.25v and 1.35v.
Plus a few inbetween those.
1.15v is my idle state, the 8x multi thing (1000mhz, 250mhz ref clock).
1.35v @ 4ghz.

This seems way better at load then my stock cooler, that's a relief.
So I obviously got some work to do on this setup to get her running cool.

Next test I'll stick a box fan beside the case blowing in to simulate a fixed up setup kinda.
Not sure when I'll beable to post that one though.

What's funny about the load screens above, both result in the same max cpu temps ^^.
Huh... nice... :D
So..., this is way better then stock, but it needs work, that is such a relief, I'm glad the $50 wasn't a waste.

[homefry]

did anyone even look at the temps in the pics?

[PaganII]

Bought the H50 on sale also ($40usd) to replace a tower cooler on a 955BE that was interfering with the case side fan. Used 2 of the included long fan screws to attach the fan that came with it and the other 2 long screws to attach the rad to the rear case fan in a push-pull arrangement. Temps are OK and I can close the side cover now! It was a hassle to mount the block/pump. Temps dropped 2C more after a day of gaming with the included TIM. Will probably swap out both fans once I get more screws. Have a 120 x 38mm for the inside pusher.

[UrbanSmooth]

than*

[NEOAethyr]

I'm getting much better temps now.
Last night my cpu dts was 14c, right now at best 19c, at a more normal ambient.

Inside case:
corsair fan 25x120mm -> h50 (25mm width)
50mm is the only way I'm getting the side of my case on...
The fan on the rad sits right beside one of my side panel 120mm intake fans...

outside case:
panaflo 38x120mm
This is the output of the rad.

I put the spaces I had towards the head of each screw instead of between the fan and rad.

Replaced my side panel fans, from 2x120mm light up's to nmb's (1 nmb needs new bearings).

Added 1x120mm light up fan about 120mm away from the rad..., pointing towards it, to suck the air from the 120mm fan in front of my case by my drives.
Added a mem temp sensor too.
I will compare having a 120mm here to other methods later on.
It's not blowing on the ram though, but it is blowing directly into the rad's intake.

I wanted to put another 120mm that hit the sb and vga but because the vga has pcie power hookups it won't fit, card is a little long I guess.
If my board had a top most pcie slot then I might of been able to, ohwell.
I'll think of something.

I'm running at 4.25ghz turbo, and 3.75ghz norm now, at lower voltage then before.
Aida says: CPU Voltage 1243750 V
It would be +0.1v while in turbo.
I'm using a - offset, -0.0032500v I think it was.

I still hardlock when my door and window is closed.
But I'm getting it there..., if I can keep the chipset cool I'll be in business.

My vga is now running at 35c.
Last night 28c.
Much better.
It's more normal now.

Oh and I added a 90mm fan for the outtake of the pcie io area.
Figured it might help with the vga cooling.


Edit:
Anyone know of any mods for the pump, like bypassing a resistor?
I can't help but think it's been setup to run slower then it's rated and might have some sort of thermal resistor in there I can do away with.
There might not be a thermal one but I haven't seen inside, there might be a resistor mod...
Pencil mod lol, something like that maybe.
I'm gonna look for pics.

[NEOAethyr]

Been a while, here's my results so far:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5484/newys.th.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5484/newys.jpg)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8763/new2gp.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8763/new2gp.jpg)

I took these screens about a week or 2 ago.
The 2nd screen was right after a explorer crash, I had the window open though on hwinfo so I was still able to access it.

Yeah, I crashed at those temp wth right ^^.
So much for thinking that I needed anything other then the stock cooler lmao, ohwell, I'm still glad I upgraded that.

I haven't hooked up my pwm temp sensor yet, to lazy lol.

Been at least a week since I messed around with my layout and such.
I'll give it yet another go pretty soon.

[Vinas]

Pretty interesting list of stuff on your desktop. Especially the last item. :D

[almighty15]

Stop using the cores temps and use the CPU socket temp.

Thubans have borked core sensors.

[NEOAethyr]

Yeah it looks like it's offset by -10c.
If the dts = 26c, the socket should be 36c, etc.
Not 100% sure without messing around but that's what it seems to be offset by.

I noticed that long ago, it's not really a biggy, it's just something I'm used to using as a ref.

[almighty15]

Your temps look fine for the cooling power you have.