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[Holst]

Anybody else considering this?

Im looking for a suitable TSOP2 donar card ATM.. 8500LE is looking promising... if I can get one at a decent price.

This card is going to get every conceivable mod... no quater will be given, no prisoners taken :P

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could a person conceivably swap them w/ bh-5 or ch-5 tsops? that would kick some a$$

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Originally posted by faruquehabib
could a person conceivably swap them w/ bh-5 or ch-5 tsops? that would kick some a$$
What should this be good for?

[faruquehabib]

i thought maybe the mem could then be oc'ed farther. but just an assumption

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[charlie]

BUT HOW do you unsolder/resolder them????

[charlie]

I'm a GENEROUS guy... I'll share the wealth :D

The Xabre 400 card has 4nS Samsung memory rated to 500mHz.

For the MANIACS here.... the Xabre 600 has Hynix 2.8nS chips rated to 700mHz.... :D

[KingInge2000]

Originally posted by faruquehabib
i thought maybe the mem could then be oc'ed farther. but just an assumption
It's 5ns against 5ns. And my card does 245MHz, my Level II doesn't.

[Holst]

Mine has hte same memory that is rated to 4ns... but it wont run at 250 without artifacts.

I think the core may be the problem... I have noticed that in the most part the guys with high memory clocks also have colder cores... maybee conisidence... maybee not.

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possibly... ill try freeze spraying my ram to -20 when I next bench it... I bet it wont help.. but its fun anyway.

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Originally posted by Holst
possibly... ill try freeze spraying my ram to -20 when I next bench it... I bet it wont help.. but its fun anyway. \


Won't you get a ton of condenstation when they start to 'thaw'? I have some freeze spray stuff too, but I'm too worried about the condenstation to use it.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Vlad Draculea
might be that the cooling they are using is so overkill for the card that it is also cooling the pcb arround it and the pcb cools the mems?

To be honest, I think its the other way around. I have a temp probe on the back of my card and it reads -9c in windows, but hit 3dmark and it shoots to +13c max in some tests. The evaporator is steady at -28c to -30c dependind on ambient, so I think the heat rise is partially due to the heat from the ram chips travelling thru the PCB.


Originally posted by Holst
possibly... ill try freeze spraying my ram to -20 when I next bench it... I bet it wont help.. but its fun anyway.

Funny you should say that, as I was thinking the same thing. I think it will make a huge difference if you can spray small shots onto heatsinks at regular intervals to keep the RAM 10c cooler throughout the tests.

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3 mins at 300c?????

I can pop stuff off much quicker and lower temps with a 2-setting 1500w heatgun...

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[NoStra]

As a donor you can try a GF4 ti4200 64mb with hynix 3.6 or 4.0ns NON BGA ram. That ram kicks as.... some will do 400 mhz with a voltmod...

[Dirty_Punk]

Originally posted by NoStra
As a donor you can try a GF4 ti4200 64mb with hynix 3.6 or 4.0ns NON BGA ram. That ram kicks as.... some will do 400 mhz with a voltmod...

naa them stops at about 350-370 the most lucky
howether POV Ti4200 SE 64MB use 3.3ns non BGA chips

[JimmyDean]

ive run my ti4200 64mb ram at 330 before, no heatsinks or vmods.

[Boyne7]

is it concievable that using tsop mem from a gfx card soldered to a system ddr pcb will allow for a much higher clockspeed than conventional ddr? if so, why wouldnt companies just use the same gfx chips on system pcbs before?

[Boyne7]

it is a very interesting idea though.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Boyne7
is it concievable that using tsop mem from a gfx card soldered to a system ddr pcb will allow for a much higher clockspeed than conventional ddr? if so, why wouldnt companies just use the same gfx chips on system pcbs before?

Yes, it is very possible. The reason they don't is cost, also size comes into it as 256 meg stick would be as big as they could go.

[Çhrist0ph]

would it be possible to transplant the 1.1ghz+(1.8ns) rated memory from a 5800 Ultra to a DDRII 9800?