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nateman_doo
04-03-2011, 06:36 PM
I will keep the speech to a minimal and just tell you its 4 lbs of copper. :)
Here are a bunch of random pics:
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/SANY0582.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0327112345.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0328110114.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0327112350.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0327112345.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0326112054.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/SANY0586.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/SANY0572.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/SANY0568.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/SANY0558.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/SANY0544.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/SR2024.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0402112312.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0401112311.jpg

ScottALot
04-03-2011, 07:07 PM
Wow! I really like it!
You did a great job managing the flow, it really rides the line between simple-style and performance.

Johnny87au
04-03-2011, 08:12 PM
nice nate, seen this on EVGA forums, this your creation?

nateman_doo
04-04-2011, 01:42 AM
Yup. I went into more detail there, just posted the pics here.

gmat
04-04-2011, 02:02 AM
Thumbs up for custom WB, we dont see them much anymore. Very nice job there.

Erdrick1980
04-04-2011, 04:27 AM
Saw that at EVGA forums too! Good job man! love seeing custom WB! :yepp::up:

nateman_doo
04-04-2011, 04:51 AM
Thanks! glad you like it!

error404
04-04-2011, 05:19 AM
so.... is it leak proof? :D

i dont see any seals / gaskets? :confused:

nateman_doo
04-04-2011, 05:34 AM
It is sealed up with permatex gasket material. Just like you would use for your water pump in your vehicle.

theseeker
04-04-2011, 05:37 AM
Brilliant!

error404
04-04-2011, 05:45 AM
It is sealed up with permatex gasket material. Just like you would use for your water pump in your vehicle.

awesome!

Could you post a link to the EVGA forum... I won't mind reading about it too :)

nateman_doo
04-04-2011, 06:00 AM
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=943648

PatRaceTin
04-04-2011, 06:09 AM
amazing

geoffsthaboss
04-04-2011, 08:04 AM
no o-ring?

*edit* posted before reading all the way through... is the permatex, well, a permanent seal?

nateman_doo
04-04-2011, 08:09 AM
Its something you can seperate the block and re-apply should you want to clean the inside.

The advantages are that permatex is available in any auto parts store, you can't "pinch" it, and its much more surface area blocking water then a simple O-ring. Simply scrape the old one off with a putty knife, or a sheet of sandpaper on a flat surface. Good as new.

The disadvantages are the breakdown time is considerably higher. Ask yourself how often do you tear your block apart and you have your answer which is the better form of sealing for you.

nateman_doo
04-04-2011, 02:41 PM
no o-ring?

*edit* posted before reading all the way through... is the permatex, well, a permanent seal?

Here is the permatex:
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0401111951.jpg

Movieman
04-04-2011, 02:44 PM
I love the smell of copper in the morning..smells like Victory!:D

Martinm210
04-04-2011, 03:04 PM
That's is awesome....love seeing the custom one-off's like this. I can only wish I had access to CNC like that...I'd probably never leave the shop..:D
Great work!!

fatherTime27
04-04-2011, 03:48 PM
4 lbs :eek: Impressive work :up:

nateman_doo
04-04-2011, 06:47 PM
Thanks guys! Glad you like it! Now if only I had some Xeon's to test it out :(

eth0s
04-04-2011, 09:41 PM
Nice job! 4 lbs of copper! Wow. If the price of copper keeps going up though, you might want to get a lock for your computer, 'cuz somebody in Jersey will steal it. (JK)

Anyway, good job. I have one hare-brained suggestion though, and I don't even know if you can cut Delrin (acetal, POM, polyoxymethylene, or w/e you want to call it) with your equipment, but, if u did a Delrin top you could probably get the weight down to 2 lbs, but maintain the same cooling capacity. (Also I don't know if permatex sticks to a thermoplastic like Delrin.)

86 5.0L
04-04-2011, 11:06 PM
yeah, that doesnt look heavy at all :p

Mr.Pie
04-04-2011, 11:22 PM
saw this on OCN

awesome job OP :)

nateman_doo
04-05-2011, 07:23 AM
Nice job! 4 lbs of copper! Wow. If the price of copper keeps going up though, you might want to get a lock for your computer, 'cuz somebody in Jersey will steal it. (JK)

Anyway, good job. I have one hare-brained suggestion though, and I don't even know if you can cut Delrin (acetal, POM, polyoxymethylene, or w/e you want to call it) with your equipment, but, if u did a Delrin top you could probably get the weight down to 2 lbs, but maintain the same cooling capacity. (Also I don't know if permatex sticks to a thermoplastic like Delrin.)

I would be more worried if I lived in New York!! ZING! :ROTF:

Plastic is much easier to cut then copper. I have cut copper at depths of 0.02" per pass when milling out channels. Its defiantly a possibility for any plastic to be substituted if someone wants any particular top. (also cuts costs down ;) )

Btw, the cost of copper went up already since I bought this copper sheet you see here less then a month ago. Almost up $20 more. Its crazy.

relttem
04-05-2011, 11:01 AM
have you actually tried it yet?

nateman_doo
04-05-2011, 11:07 AM
I don't have the chips to fire up the board. I have to sell a few blocks in order to afford them ;)

gejmer
04-05-2011, 11:29 AM
Very good custom waterblock :up: Will temparature report?

nateman_doo
04-05-2011, 03:56 PM
As soon as I can afford some xeons to actually power up the board, I will report temps. Until then I need to sell some blocks to afford them ;)

NaeKuh
04-05-2011, 03:58 PM
Nate u gonna treat that top side so it doesnt tarnish over time with a type of polish?

Other then that it looks nice!

nateman_doo
04-05-2011, 04:05 PM
I use a special clear coat designed for copper.

Shadow0001
04-05-2011, 07:48 PM
Here's an idea what to expect performance wise at 3dmark 11(performance setting) with a pair of X5650's running at 3.8Ghz, 190Mhz QPI(turbo mode on for 4.1Ghz), with the DDR3 ram running at 1900Mhz.


http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/Superfly101_02/resultat38GhzGPUoverclockpart1.png

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/Superfly101_02/resultat38GhzGPUoverclockpart2.png


Video cards are 3 GTX580's at 850/2100 using the latest drivers, and the funny thing about the last 2 results(physics and combined test),is that my results are pretty close to the same as a 980x running at 6.2 Ghz with 4 GTX580's running at 1250/2500 clocks....I checked the 3Dmark database for the highest posted score..


3Dmark 11 can make use of more than 12 threads in the physics and combined tests basically....Picture of the beast follows:

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx298/Superfly101_02/final%20PC%20pictures/P1030447.jpg

nateman_doo
04-06-2011, 02:29 PM
que?

Rubycon
04-06-2011, 09:07 PM
Nickel plate it and call it well done! :D

nateman_doo
04-07-2011, 04:09 AM
Its something I will start to look into. I have no idea how to do it, but I will use my Google-Fu

error404
04-07-2011, 06:33 AM
Its something I will start to look into. I have no idea how to do it, but I will use my Google-Fu

I have been looking at nickel plating also... It appears to be easy enough (the sell kits :D ).

The only thing that I couldn't figure out was: If I try to solder two pieces of copper... will the electroless process for creating nickel plating would work on the solder material?? :shrug:

Rubycon
04-07-2011, 06:49 AM
You could also nickel plate the bottom and powder coat the top. This way you could offer this in different colors/finishes, etc.

nateman_doo
04-07-2011, 07:08 PM
Could do different plastics on top too.

nateman_doo
04-10-2011, 10:05 AM
A sneak peek at some improvements:
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/0409112358.jpg

nateman_doo
04-11-2011, 06:21 AM
More pics. O-ring becoming a reality.

nateman_doo
04-12-2011, 07:49 PM
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/nateman_doo/SR2026.jpg

gejmer
04-12-2011, 11:40 PM
Professional work,so it should look like :up:

nateman_doo
04-13-2011, 03:13 AM
Thanks!

Mr.Pie
04-19-2011, 12:51 AM
did you nickel plate that?

looks excellent!

nateman_doo
04-20-2011, 12:47 PM
Nope, thats the Aluminum prototype.

nateman_doo
04-24-2011, 07:37 PM
smooth as glass:

error404
04-25-2011, 06:55 AM
Could you PM (or post here) the feed rate/rpm that you are running on the X2?
Is that a two flute endmill? 1/4" diameter?

thanks! :up:

nateman_doo
04-25-2011, 06:59 AM
max RPM on high gear,
depth of cut 0.01" (still experimenting)
14 ipm (per speed & feed calculator)
3/8 solid carbide 2 flute

error404
04-25-2011, 10:14 AM
THANKS!

can't wait to see how is going to look after you get the abrasive blast cabinet ;)

gejmer
04-25-2011, 11:45 AM
This is ideal tool for similar operation (imho:yepp:) click (http://www.amazon.com/Niagara-Cutter-S335M-Stainless-Titanium/dp/B003D7LRSG?SubscriptionId=0TRNBNK1GACAA8108KR2&tag=buy-cheap-yoga-store-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B003D7LRSG)
3x Flutes Milling Cutter.
But it is one.. One block always somehow completes... Take it esy:)

error404
04-25-2011, 12:06 PM
nateman,
what endmill did you use to create the o-ring path.


This is ideal tool for similar operation (imho:yepp:) click (http://www.amazon.com/Niagara-Cutter-S335M-Stainless-Titanium/dp/B003D7LRSG?SubscriptionId=0TRNBNK1GACAA8108KR2&tag=buy-cheap-yoga-store-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B003D7LRSG)
3x Flutes Milling Cutter.
But it is one.. One block always somehow completes... Take it esy:)
what makes it so great?

I usually see 2 and 4 flutes :confused:

gejmer
04-25-2011, 01:25 PM
2-flutes= excellent takes material,but greater resistance in the cut.(lower feed)
4-flutes= excellent smooth cut,small takes material
3-flutes= combines advantages both

NEOAethyr
04-26-2011, 04:28 AM
@nateman_doo

Have you ever thought of using pure silver?
You can get 99.999% silver bars from ebay for decent price.
Err well the 10 oz bars used to be dirt cheap, if you bid on them instead of buy it now it's still possible to get them for a couple $'s.

Of course you would have to grind them down to a flat surface and sand them, and them coat them to prevent oxidation.

It seems you can get 1 oz bars for cheap still though.
But you'de have to melt a bunch of them down into a mold.


High end corp designs for high end computers use microchan's.
Small little notches throughout the pathway.


@gejmer
Nice ava :up:

nateman_doo
04-26-2011, 04:49 AM
From McMaster:

Two Flute
Have deeper, longer gullets for more chip-carrying capacity and are center-cutting. Ideal for work that begins with a plunge cut and when chip removal is a problem. When used as a slotting tool, these hold the slot size and location more easily than end mills with more flutes.

Three Flute
Have smoother cutting action with less chatter and flutter than two-flute tools and may eliminate the need for a second finishing cut.

Four Flute
Produce finer finishes and last longer than two or three-flute tools. Compared to two-flute tools, they remove metal faster and can be fed up to two times faster.

nateman_doo
04-26-2011, 06:50 PM
Sexy Plexi

nateman_doo
04-27-2011, 07:23 AM
http://www.shars.com/files/products/414-1668/414-1670A.jpg

gejmer
04-27-2011, 01:39 PM
Nice stuff,wow:)

nateman_doo
04-28-2011, 07:07 AM
A close up of the fins. The plexi top helps to gauge the depth of the O-ring. You can see the contact of the O-ring on the surface of the plexi. I have to lap the copper surface to make the o-ring channel more shallow for better contact.