what's the "Fastest" Cruncher on XS?

[charlie]

no, not the most ppd or computing ability...

But the fastest (most mHz) 24/7 rig around?

Anyone have like a phase change 980X running 24/7?

:ROTF:

[charlie]

let me add, before someone posts...

yes, I know that a 400w phase change rig running 24/7 with your 200w rig might not be efficient or even desirable to most users.

I'm just "curious"...

[jcool]

Hard to say really. It's probably a tie between those of us running the evga SR-2... I'm at 4.3 for 24/7 (Dual Hexacore / 24 Threads).
Anyone higher? I'm on chilled water, but voltage limited (don't want to feed more than ~1,38V Vcore 24/7).

Edit: Oh sorry, I thought you meant the overall fastest crunching rigs.
Pure Mhz... probably someone with a clarkdale at 5+ Ghz, which is attainable on water with a good sample.
But then again, you could get the highest Mhz with an old netburst P4 :p:

[charlie]

Hard to say really. It's probably a tie between those of us running the evga SR-2... I'm at 4.3 for 24/7 (Dual Hexacore / 24 Threads).
Anyone higher? I'm on chilled water, but voltage limited (don't want to feed more than ~1,38V Vcore 24/7).

Edit: Oh sorry, I thought you meant the overall fastest crunching rigs.
Pure Mhz... probably someone with a clarkdale at 5+ Ghz, which is attainable on water with a good sample.
But then again, you could get the highest Mhz with an old netburst P4 :p:

:D

I'm just sure someone has a 5.3gHz 24/7 rig somewhere :D

[jcool]

Maybe you should define it as "fastest single threaded performance" - otherwise the most powerful machines around are the SR-2 rigs.

[Movieman]

:D

I'm just sure someone has a 5.3gHz 24/7 rig somewhere :D

I'm not quite so sure of that..
Maybe one of Fallwinds hexes and That's where I'd bet my money, maybe jcools WC SR2..
4300is darned close tomax on even water unless you want to REALLY push and that's against the logic here..
Marathon not sprint and not many systems will run more than 4300 24/7 100% load..
I'm at 4275mhz but I'm a slowpoke on air..:rofl:
Todays top 10 machines on WCG, I'm at #3..can't match those top 2- 8socket,64 core machines..:rofl:

[D_A]

I wanna know where these 63.5 core machines come from ... I mean, what's with that half a core??

[trn]

I'm sure someone can top this...
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/trn_photobucket/980x1.jpg

[Movieman]

I'm sure someone can top this...
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/trn_photobucket/980x1.jpg

Maybe, but not more than one or two if that..
Drop your multi to 26 and upyour FSB to 165 and I think you'll be in for a pleasant surprise..:up:

[charlie]

I'm not quite so sure of that..
Maybe one of Fallwinds hexes and That's where I'd bet my money, maybe jcools WC SR2..
4300is darned close tomax on even water unless you want to REALLY push and that's against the logic here..
Marathon not sprint and not many systems will run more than 4300 24/7 100% load..
I'm at 4275mhz but I'm a slowpoke on air..:rofl:
Todays top 10 machines on WCG, I'm at #3..can't match those top 2- 8socket,64 core machines..:rofl:

omg...

64 core 8 socket beast...

that's like 175,000 wcg/day

[Movieman]

omg...

64 core 8 socket beast...

that's like 175,000 wcg/day

That costs close to $30,000.00 to build..:down:

[trn]

...think you'll be in for a pleasant surprise..:up:

A nice hardlock? Thanks Dave :rofl:

[charlie]

A nice hardlock? Thanks Dave :rofl:

lol... yeah Dave!

j/k... probably have to adjust your ram speed or voltages if you use the lower multi.

[D_A]

I'm struggling to find anyone that makes an 8 socket board to take those beasts!

[Movieman]

A nice hardlock? Thanks Dave :rofl:

I can run that on air on the SR2 rig.
You mean to tell me that some old guy can get better numbers from a dualie than you can with that unlocked monster you have?:rofl:
Seriously, 165BCLK is the "sweet spot"
Doesn't take more than 1.3VTT and 1.35Vcore and that can probably be dropped..
Try it,you'll like it..:D

[trn]

lol... yeah Dave!

j/k... probably have to adjust your ram speed or voltages if you use the lower multi.

Settings weren't bad, eleet just didn't like em :) Anyways i've been meaning to downclock my main rig to 4.2GHz (that extra 200mhz isn't worth the large increase in power) for a while so that inspired me to try out some new settings. I'm now 24/7 (potentially stable :rofl:) at 4.2GHz and 1.317vcore 26 x 162 with RAM at 2000Mhz so someone else can be the "fastest" cruncher. I think fallwind says he runs one of his 980x's at 4.5GHz 24/7. That will be hard to top.

[fallwind]

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4172/980x4500.jpg

Someones gotta have a dually running higher than this! :D

[[XC] Oj101]

Phase, yes I did :D FX-55 at around 3.4GHz if I remember correctly :D

[jcool]

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4172/980x4500.jpg

Someones gotta have a dually running higher than this! :D

Nope.. that was EXACTLY my setting on the better of the X5680's in a single board.
Unfortunately the 2nd 5680 needs like 1,48V to do 4,5 stable :rolleyes: :shakes:

I need better chips. :p:

[fallwind]

I just re-read my post a did a face-palm lol. I meant "dual core", not a dually "dual socket".

[D_A]

107907

[Plan.B]

Very nice SS pics. Hardware pr0n pics of fastest XS WCG cruncher (and contenders) appreciated

[charlie]

here's my little $99 Fry's Combo i3-530 and Biostar TH55B HD

not bad... good for 17-18K per day and ~130W

[charlie]

I might be able to pull 4.6...

But I'd have to be running at the ragged edge.

Here's my highest Linx stable:

[D_A]

You don't want to be at the ragged edge for WCG. Movieman has a good analogy with the race. If you keep erroring out because you're so close to the edge then you're not stable and you will return LESS than if you back off a bit and get consistent valid work. This is about putting in results one after the other time after time. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

[shoota]

I hate you guys with fry's and microcenter. All I have is best buy and compusa. Puke!

Edit: anyone wanna donate one of those awesome combo deals plz!

[charlie]

I hate you guys with fry's and microcenter. All I have is best buy and compusa. Puke!

Edit: anyone wanna donate one of those awesome combo deals plz!

yes but you have beaches and hot Cuban chicks :yepp:

[shoota]

yes but you have beaches and hot Cuban chicks :yepp:

two things: sand, and married..

[haschioz]

sorry to ot but is your wife cuban?
and those deals you got there in the us would even be worth the shipping and customs in europe.

[Otis11]

I hate you guys with fry's and microcenter. All I have is best buy and compusa. Puke!

Edit: anyone wanna donate one of those awesome combo deals plz!

Lotsa people will get it for ya and ship it if you paypal them the money.

Just gotta ask. :up:

[shoota]

Right on. Problem is that I never know the combo is available
Wife is not Cuban.
We should have our own online deals thread for crunching gear only

[MrMojoZ]

yes but you have beaches and hot Cuban chicks :yepp:

He can keep it! Back in my phone support days for Tandy, calls from certain Florida stores were usually highly unpleasant experiences. The store personal were actually worse than the customers! I still have a negative Pavlovian response to ringing phones 15 years later. :(

At least all the real bad ones went to prison for fraud. :up:

[jcool]

I just re-read my post a did a face-palm lol. I meant "dual core", not a dually "dual socket".

doh.. I took that comment seriously without even thinking about it :rofl:

[disturbed13]

two things: sand, and married..

your wife has your eyes?
im sorry
god gave you eyes to look at beautyful things
and if she gives you crap, so 'im sorry i have a :banana::banana::banana::banana:. what do you want me to do, hang onto your arm and sow my eyes closed?'
that'll shut er' up........... for a minute

[disturbed13]

ohhhh
i almost forgot
then when she slaps you
you say 'why do you think i look at you so much? im sure as hell not eyeballing the ring i gave you.'
and if she asks what you are eyeballing you say something about her beautyful features
like her eyes or her face, you know the drill

[Snow Crash]

you are not married are you?

[bearcatrp]

ohhhh
i almost forgot
then when she slaps you
you say 'why do you think i look at you so much? im sure as hell not eyeballing the ring i gave you.'
and if she asks what you are eyeballing you say something about her beautyful features
like her eyes or her face, you know the drill

That crap went out back in the 80's. Now they want jewelry or something expensive. :slapass:

[shoota]

you are not married are you?

obviously not lol

[disturbed13]

That crap went out back in the 80's. Now they want jewelry or something expensive. :slapass:

oh and a crunching rig is cheap :confused:
and they are still out there and 'new' its just a rare pure breed :rofl:

[tiro_uspsss]

That costs close to $30,000.00 to build..:down:

who's are they??

[sierra_bound]

I believe all the 8-socket crunchers are with IBM's team.

[charlie]

more cheap MicroCenter/Fry's deals...

Fry's has 1055t for $149 and newegg has a Biostar A880G+ AM#/DDR3 board for $59 -10% free shipping.

That's about $205+ tax for a 6 thread cruncher and 25k ppd.

[lkiller123]

more cheap MicroCenter/Fry's deals...

Fry's has 1055t for $149

You should've told me this earlier:(

[sierra_bound]

I think 25K ppd is a little optimistic with the 1055T. 22-23K is more likely from what I've seen.

[Movieman]

I think 25K ppd is a little optimistic with the 1055T. 22-23K is more likely from what I've seen.

:rofl: You beat me.. I was just going to say the same thing..

Charlie( and everyone)
I'm not saying don't buy AMD. Buy what makes you happy but the truth of it is that the Intels ( said nicely) beat the AMD's in WCG and by a lot.
A i7-920 Intel at 4Ghz does I think app 30-35,000PPD in WCG and thats a quad.
A 6 core Intelclocked to over 4GHz will top 50,000PPD..

[slaveondope]

25k is what you get at 4ghz on the 6 core AMD's I can confirm this.

Im at 3.7ghz pulling 23k
9/18/10 - 0:006:01:49:28 - 23,193 since 4ghz uses ~40-50 watts more.

[charlie]

I know absolutely nothing about any of this... ;)

But my own calculations say that the P2X6 makes a lot of points for the $$.

For example... let's make 100K per day.

SR-2 + Westies... some ram, a big expensive PSU... $3000?

AthlonII X4, CPU+board=$100. Sticks, a $30 PSU and you're talking $150, $160? But it only makes about 3.8ppmHz, that's 14k at 3.6gHz. So build 7 of them.... $1100

PhenomII X6, CPU+ board=$200. Sticks, a $30 PSU and you're up to $250. But it only makes 25k ppd. So build 4 of them... $1000

i7 930, CPU+ board= $350. Sticks and a $40 CPU makes $475. But it only makes 35k ppd. So build 3 of them... $1425



Now I'm not much of a mathematician.... maybe a step smarter than the US Treasury though.

But it looks like the cheapest GEAR to make 100k ppd is 4x P2X6 rigs. Of course it's not as COOL as an Sr-2 rig... and it will use more power every day. But it IS the most CRUNCH for the buck.

[charlie]

the only CHEAPER way to make 100k per day would be 6x i3 rigs...

When Fry's had the i3-530+Biostar board for $99 you could make a 4.2gHz, 16-17K ppd rig for $150. That's $900 to make 100k ppd.

But Fry's doesn't do COMBOS anymore :( and now that same combo runs $200+

[ChaosAD]

A i7-920 Intel at 4Ghz does I think app 30-35,000PPD in WCG and thats a quad.


Strange, it seems that my 920 @ 4.1Ghz max out at 31-33k PPD :shrug:

[SiGfever]

Strange, it seems that my 920 @ 4.1Ghz max out at 31-33k PPD :shrug:

Yeah but Dave does a secret Old Irish dance to increase the point production. I will NOT mention how he does the dance or what I have been told he is wearing. :eek: :ROTF:

[charlie]

Yeah but Dave does a secret Old Irish dance to increase the point production. I will NOT mention how he does the dance or what I have been told he is wearing. :eek: :ROTF:

:shocked:

lol...

[sierra_bound]

i7-860 and LGA1156 board will do 30-35K ppd. i7-860 is $200 at Micro Center. An 1156 board can be had for under $150.

These are my results.

[charlie]

i7-860 and LGA1156 board will do 30-35K ppd. i7-860 is $200 at Micro Center. An 1156 board can be had for under $150.

These are my results.

cool... so a i7-860 rig is $350 or less

Let's look at it in depth:

i7-860 $200
1156 board $100
PSU $30
DDR3 $40
HDD $20

looks like $390 and 30-35k ppd.

1055T $150
A880G+ $60
PSU $30
DDR3 $40
HDD $20

looks like $300 and 25k ppd.

$1200 buys 3x i7 rigs or 4x Thuban rigs.

3x 30-35k= 90-105K

4x 25K= 100K

If one has extra HDD, PSU's and ram... the Thuban has a greater cost advantage. Let's pretend you have spare PSU's, RAM and HDD's

3x $300=$900

4x $210=$840

Looks like they tie in crunch for the buck. The i7 a little cheaper to run, power wise...

[sierra_bound]

When choosing a board, I would look for one with good power regulation. Running 24/7 at 100% load puts a real strain on the board's power section. It's worth spending the extra $$$ on a solid board. Also get a PSU with high efficiency. You don't want that electricity ending up just generating heat.

[charlie]

When choosing a board, I would look for one with good power regulation. Running 24/7 at 100% load puts a real strain on the board's power section. It's worth spending the extra $$$ on a solid board. Also get a PSU with high efficiency. You don't want that electricity ending up just generating heat.

good points...

for cheap PSU's I'm liking this $29.99+$2.99 Newegg Cooler Master Elite 460W. It's made by Fortron, is 80%+ at 200-300w output and should last like all FSP.

[Movieman]

cool... so a i7-860 rig is $350 or less

Let's look at it in depth:

i7-860 $200
1156 board $100
PSU $30
DDR3 $40
HDD $20

looks like $390 and 30-35k ppd.

1055T $150
A880G+ $60
PSU $30
DDR3 $40
HDD $20

looks like $300 and 25k ppd.

$1200 buys 3x i7 rigs or 4x Thuban rigs.

3x 30-35k= 90-105K

4x 25K= 100K

If one has extra HDD, PSU's and ram... the Thuban has a greater cost advantage. Let's pretend you have spare PSU's, RAM and HDD's

3x $300=$900

4x $210=$840

Looks like they tie in crunch for the buck. The i7 a little cheaper to run, power wise...
Charlie:
IF,IF,IF..
If I had 12 extra X5690's I could make an additional 600,000PPD IF I had the boards,ram,PSU,etc..
You just can't make that kind of statement and you got got one important factor: electrical use.
1) The thurbans clocked to 4GHz draw more elec than the Intels at 4GHz and you have 4 thurbans vs 3 Intels..
2)That small amount of money difference will disappear every month in electrical costs.
Build the intel as it is cheaper when you factor in all costs.
Dave the Bean counter..:p:

[slaveondope]

Charlie:
IF,IF,IF..
If I had 12 extra X5690's I could make an additional 600,000PPD IF I had the boards,ram,PSU,etc..
You just can't make that kind of statement and you got got one important factor: electrical use.
1) The thurbans clocked to 4GHz draw more elec than the Intels at 4GHz and you have 4 thurbans vs 3 Intels..
2)That small amount of money difference will disappear every month in electrical costs.
Build the intel as it is cheaper when you factor in all costs.
Dave the Bean counter..:p:

This is true, If I could roll back my purchase of the 1090t or even a 1055t I would for an i7:(

[charlie]

Charlie:
IF,IF,IF..
If I had 12 extra X5690's I could make an additional 600,000PPD IF I had the boards,ram,PSU,etc..
You just can't make that kind of statement and you got got one important factor: electrical use.
1) The thurbans clocked to 4GHz draw more elec than the Intels at 4GHz and you have 4 thurbans vs 3 Intels..
2)That small amount of money difference will disappear every month in electrical costs.
Build the intel as it is cheaper when you factor in all costs.
Dave the Bean counter..:p:


details, details...

:D

[soya_crack]

This is true, If I could roll back my purchase of the 1090t or even a 1055t I would for an i7:(
I do totally agree with you as I can't even upgrade to BD anymore, so AMD is totally dead for me.

[Bobsama]

This is true, If I could roll back my purchase of the 1090t or even a 1055t I would for an i7:(

Sell or trade for i7.

[BlindFreddie]

An interesting thread, but haven't you guys drifted a little off "what's the "Fastest" Cruncher on XS?" ? There was/is a thread for a similar topic - PPD/watt - that started a few months ago.

Now ... Does anyone claim ownership of any of the WCG members that appear on here? - Average Points Per Hour of Run Time (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/stat/viewStatsByMemberAVG.do?sort=avgPointsCPU&pageNum=1&numRecordsPerPage=50)

Note that the PPH there are averages over all devices, since the member joined WCG. If you want to try for #1, you could start out with just your fastest cruncher (turn off HT), crunching under a new membership. I think the list may only include "active" members, ie if you don't return any work for a while, you drop off the list. A year or 2 ago, the top dog was maybe a bit higher than acebmxer's 271 PPH, by a "member" who'd only crunched a total of something like 16h. Maybe he had a C2D E8600 and a truckload of LN2 for the weekend. Nowadays, I guess you could get there with a clarkdale on air. Anyone for the challenge?

BTW, at #9 is: XS_Craftyman 233.48
Is someone here being crafty?

[I'm down at position #372 with: Rickjb 181.49
Still, there are probably not that many above me in the list who are still running a S939 AMD.]

[Blauhung]

An interesting thread, but haven't you guys drifted a little off "what's the "Fastest" Cruncher on XS?" ? There was/is a thread for a similar topic - PPD/watt - that started a few months ago.

Now ... Does anyone claim ownership of any of the WCG members that appear on here? - Average Points Per Hour of Run Time (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/stat/viewStatsByMemberAVG.do?sort=avgPointsCPU&pageNum=1&numRecordsPerPage=50)

Note that the PPH there are averages over all devices, since the member joined WCG. If you want to try for #1, you could start out with just your fastest cruncher (turn off HT), crunching under a new membership. I think the list may only include "active" members, ie if you don't return any work for a while, you drop off the list. A year or 2 ago, the top dog was maybe a bit higher than acebmxer's 271 PPH, by a "member" who'd only crunched a total of something like 16h. Maybe he had a C2D E8600 and a truckload of LN2 for the weekend. Nowadays, I guess you could get there with a clarkdale on air. Anyone for the challenge?

BTW, at #9 is: XS_Craftyman 233.48
Is someone here being crafty?

[I'm down at position #372 with: Rickjb 181.49
Still, there are probably not that many above me in the list who are still running a S939 AMD.]

the problem with those stats your looking at there, is for the most part many of us have been crunching for many many years with much slower computers tacked on and those #'s are an average of all the time the one account has put in since it was created.