Dell U2311H

[[XC] Oj101]

Hi guys

I'm looking at getting my first IPS panel. At the moment I'm using an anceint CTL 17" 4:3 TN display and I'm in the market for something in the 24" range. The main uses will be normal Windows use, movies and a bit of gaming. The reason I am looking at this Dell is I can get it cheaper than a TN 24", and it has the ability to rotate to portrait mode which is a huge plus for programming. I have read the thread at [H] and people are complaining about yellow and blue tinting which isn't uniform across the display. Can someone comment on this, keeping in mind that I'm using the biggest piece of crap available? Am I likely to notice, or will the infinitely better image quality negate the effect for me?

Thanks:up:

[[XC] Oj101]

Anyone?

[zalbard]

Get it, looks like a great monitor to me, especially considering the price.

[[XC] Oj101]

How would this compare to my Dell P1110 Trinitron CRT image quality wise? It would be nice to claim back some of my desk.

[doom102938]

Well it appears that that's the best bang for the buck would be that with extremely decent quality. Just note that there are some quality issues but if you do get a good set then it will serve you well for the next few years.

If 16:9 is your nemesis and you'd prefer a 16:10 monitor for about 400 bucks HP's zr24w is also another good monitor.

Cheers.

[bfar]

Just got one last week. As LCDs go, its a beauty.

Coming from a CRT you might notice some contrast shift at extreme angles, perhaps some ghosting in games/movies, and it might take a while to get used to reduced black levels. However, being a good quality LCD, these issues will be less pronounced on the U2311h then on lower quality TN screens

Generally speaking, TFT screens have a much more crisp and stable image than most CRTs, enough to justify the move. Also, it's worth remembering that CRTs lose their accuracy over time. If you've had the same one for a few years, than the image quality may no longer be as good as you think.

[[XC] Oj101]

Well it appears that that's the best bang for the buck would be that with extremely decent quality. Just note that there are some quality issues but if you do get a good set then it will serve you well for the next few years.

If 16:9 is your nemesis and you'd prefer a 16:10 monitor for about 400 bucks HP's zr24w is also another good monitor.

Cheers.

Thanks, I would LOVE 16:10 IPS but it's way out of my budget. The HP is slightly more than double the price I'm paying for the Dell (as I said, with the current special I can't even get a TN panel for the same price), which is the only reason I'm even contemplating the move.

[Caparroz]

Oj101;4507450']How would this compare to my Dell P1110 Trinitron CRT image quality wise? It would be nice to claim back some of my desk.

Even the the best, wildest LCD/Plasma can't hold a candle to a good, calibrated CRT. That's why Hollywood top post houses still use professional Sony CRT BVM monitors. :up: Since Sony doesn't produce it anymore an used one is worth well north of $40.000 and sells in like 0.0001 milliseconds.

If I had a Dell P1110 Trinitron I would stick to it and avoid any LCD like the plague, especially in your case that you don't absolutelly need the screen real state a big LCD panel offers.

[HuffPCair]

Buddy has one. I would steal it if he didnt know where I lived.

[[XC] Oj101]

Even the the best, wildest LCD/Plasma can't hold a candle to a good, calibrated CRT. That's why Hollywood top post houses still use professional Sony CRT BVM monitors. :up: Since Sony doesn't produce it anymore an used one is worth well north of $40.000 and sells in like 0.0001 milliseconds.

If I had a Dell P1110 Trinitron I would stick to it and avoid any LCD like the plague, especially in your case that you don't absolutelly need the screen real state a big LCD panel offers.

If these forums had a rep system I'd +1 you right now. You've just talked me out of it, the money could be much better used elsewhere. Thank you :up:

[Caparroz]

No problem. :up:

Just like bfar said take care of your CRT like if it's your own child and it'll keep you happy for a long time. Pro shops that do proper service on CRTs like yours may be expensive but it's more than worth it.

It amazes me. We're capable of sending people to the Moon and back but we can not produce a device capable of reproducing images as good as CRT, an almost 100 years old technology. I've been to trade shows and have seen "big" oled and amoled stuff but I wouldn't hold my breath over it.

Anyway, enjoy your awesome CRT. :up:

Edit: don't mind about the servicing bit. I own a post gig and our stuff runs 24/7 and I can asure you CRTs are a lot tougher than LCD crap for normal use.

[SoulsCollective]

I'm not so sure. I used to own a Sony GDM-FW900, widely considered to be one of the better CRTs available, and I do not miss it at all. The colours are just as good on my 2408WFP (although I would certainly say that a TN panel is a step backwards) when properly calibrated and it doesn't weigh a damn ton. The only thing I miss is really deep blacks, and some contrast shift is noticeable at extreme angles, but really the benefits massively outweigh the costs.

As for the U2311, I've just bought three on sale from Dell - AUD $750 shipped for three was just too good a deal to pass up. The lack of 16:10 is an annoyance, that's for sure, but I'll be setting them up with my 2408WFP above, so I probably won't be starved of desk space. I'll report on how I find them when they arrive.

[[XC] Oj101]

One thing which I don't like about LCD screens is the lack of resolution :( 1920x1200 feels... Lacking.

[SoulsCollective]

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Resolutions are resolutions wherever you go. Most CRTs will be at a lower resolution (1280*1024 or below) than modern LCDs - are you perhaps referring instead to pixel pitch?

[[XC] Oj101]

Nope, resolution. I came from 2048*1536 and 2560*2048 at home to 1920*1200 at work :(

[SoulsCollective]

Ah, yes, well, high-end CRTs are certainly much more capable of extreme resolutions than most LCDs. They are definitely the exception, however, as most consumer CRTs could barely hit 1280 @ 60Hz. Sadly you just can't get pixels that small.

[[XC] Oj101]

I don't know hey, there are 15.x" laptops with 1920*1080 surely they can do better with the 23"s and above?

[clown6magic]

Oj101;4590822']One thing which I don't like about LCD screens is the lack of resolution :( 1920x1200 feels... Lacking.

:shrug:but....looks bigger than 16:9