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CokeCanNinja
05-31-2010, 09:01 PM
I was at wal-mart the other day and I was looking at some large 1080p LCD TV's. At about 10 feet they looked pretty good, but when you got to computer monitor distances, they looked terrible. I could easily see the pixels. We need to get companies to make 2160p screens for anything over ~24".

dengyong
05-31-2010, 09:06 PM
I agree, we need higher resolution for large screens.

Smellydeli
05-31-2010, 09:07 PM
You really aren't supposed to sit so close to large screens.

:stick:

NKrader
05-31-2010, 09:46 PM
isnt that the point.. has the same res as most of our monitors just bigger.. so you can sit across the room and get the same experience as computer junkies get sitting a nose away :p:


I agree, we need higher resolution for large screens.

lol i would love to rip a movie that took up like 65+ gb :D


walmart has a feed for the tvs in the store thats on 480i via ntsc on coax, and walmart dose not have good tvs

+1

zanzabar
05-31-2010, 09:47 PM
your not supposed to be closer than 3 foot to any tv over 32", most tv content still is not 1080p and walmart (also best buy and most stores) have a feed for the tvs in the store thats on 480i via ntsc on coax, and walmart dose not have good tvs


did u see how long it took for 1080p to be adopted on tvs most people still dont have an hd tv and most housholds that do have 1, that makes it not worth producing content at 1080 without having a price premium so getting something better with 2160 being not much better at all the adoption rate would suck and no1 would have standard content to support it

dengyong
05-31-2010, 10:12 PM
isnt that the point.. has the same res as most of our monitors just bigger.. so you can sit across the room and get the same experience as computer junkies get sitting a nose away :p:



lol i would love to rip a movie that took up like 65+ gb :D



+1

I'm use to being 4' from a 37" screen so 8' from a 74" screen should be about right. :up:

STEvil
05-31-2010, 11:40 PM
1080p is beautiful on my 46" Toshiba Regza (HDMI input, panel scaling disabled on the monitor, overdrive maxed out in the GPU options). I view it on average 2-3 feet away. Cant say I wouldnt enjoy 1400p though.

Soulburner
06-01-2010, 06:03 AM
Looks great from 10 feet on my 65" Mitsubishi DLP. Iron Man looked awesome the other night. We get a very film-like experience from this TV.

If you get closer, of course it's going to be bad. But that isn't the point of a large TV.

I believe 1920x1080p is great to 46", good to 60". Over that we would definitely benefit from more pixels.

itznfb
06-01-2010, 06:07 AM
I have a Samsung 46" that looks amazing at 1080p. Even sitting about 3 feet away. Same with my dad's 60" Sony. I think as zanzabar said... the issue was that you were at Walmart.

NKrader
06-01-2010, 06:34 AM
yesssssss >9000p = 500gb movies. they give em to you on seagate harddrives. as they will only work that one time anyways.

CokeCanNinja
06-01-2010, 10:13 AM
OK, so hi-res movies would take up a ton of space. But read this: http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/49953-researchers-develop-25tb-titanium-oxide-disc That's right, 25TB in a CD. If you made a 3.5" 3 layer, dual sided HDD with that, it would be huge. So storage size won't be that much of an issue.

Xello
06-01-2010, 10:42 AM
I disagree completely, i can go to the local theater and stand right up to the projection screen and it's totally awesome :D

Soulburner
06-01-2010, 10:50 AM
Plus, how sure are we this guy even saw a 1920x1080 source on the screen? It could have been some low-res commercial.

CokeCanNinja
06-01-2010, 11:23 AM
No, it was a 1080p TV channel.

lowfat
06-01-2010, 11:56 AM
No, it was a 1080p TV channel.

First there are almost zero 1080P channels on TV. They are either 720p or 1080i. And secondly if it was coming off a bluray player the signal has been branched off 20-30 difference TV's. Seriously degrading quality.

BrokenWall
06-01-2010, 12:01 PM
No, it was a 1080p TV channel.

most places like Frys, Best Buy, and such don't even give you full quality 1080P on the screens, thats why you really can never trust what you see in the stores, plus people mess with the video and color settings and can make a :banana::banana::banana::banana: TV look better than a great TV.

Walmart is not a tech store they will not give you any better video then what you would get a brandsmart or such.

If you really want to see what a TV is made of go and mess with it yourself, even better if you can find a good ma&pop shop that does high end AV those places give good demos. And best of all read reviews.

Johnny87au
06-22-2010, 10:39 PM
i Could of told you that, originally was going for a 42" LCD Tv as a computer monitor but after hooking up one in my room as a test i decided 3x 26" monitors is alot better due to better response time and wayyyyyyy better resolution!

damha
06-23-2010, 07:18 AM
If you are going to watch tv from close range then there is no point in getting anything bigger than 38, even 42 the pixels get bigger and noticable.

But I will say this, you really dont want to waste money on a cheap 50-60in tv. Samsungs right now have the best picture, best contrast, best price, simply unbeatable. Sony, Panasonic, LG might be the other contenders but it will depend on color taste and price.

.Logic
06-24-2010, 07:23 AM
Forget 1080P at 24" give me 5000P+ so I can't see the pixels and don't have to use antialiasing... If there's one reason to sing apples praises at the moment (you will probably never hear me say those words again) it's the iPhone 4's screen, hopefully other companies will see it and innovate. I would love a 24" 350dpi panel.

Mikey7c8
07-09-2010, 10:05 AM
I'm currently working off a 1080p 27, and while the screen has it's issues the picture isn't one of them.

:)

Metroid
07-11-2010, 05:00 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4464741&postcount=50

Andrew LB
08-05-2010, 01:19 AM
I was at wal-mart the other day and I was looking at some large 1080p LCD TV's. At about 10 feet they looked pretty good, but when you got to computer monitor distances, they looked terrible. I could easily see the pixels. We need to get companies to make 2160p screens for anything over ~24".

I dunno. 1080p in both movies and via a PC looks pretty darn good on my 55" Samsung 8000 Series LED LCD screen. Especially now that I just wired up a full 7.1 channel JBL Studio L series (big speakers for BIG sound) with a 10" Mirage Audio Omni S10 800w subwoofer.

Sub: http://www.miragespeakers.com/na-en/products/omni-s10-specifications/
Front L/R: JBL Studio S310 Loudspeakers (http://hifinet.co.kr/upload/hardware/speaker/S310.jpg):
Center: JBL S-Center

. This was my initial setup with the big JBL setup and my old 37" Samsung LCD TV. I'm now running a new TV as well as a Harman Kardon AVR-354 Receiver, plus the JBL Studio L810 speakers for both rear surround and side surround 2x pairs. http://www.kalionzes.net/RandomPhotos/LCD_Mounted.jpg

I'll my DSLR camera out when I finish up all the in-wall wiring so everything is super clean and not the semi messy setup i have with the drywall work I'm finishing right now.

gillll
08-05-2010, 02:08 AM
hehe WHUXGA 7680×4800 16:10 37Mpixel


WHUXGA an abbreviation for Wide Hex[adecatuple] Ultra Extended Graphics Array, is a display standard that can support a resolution up to 7680 × 4800 pixels, assuming a 16:10 aspect ratio. The name comes from the fact that it has sixteen (hexadecatuple) times as many pixels as a WUXGA display. A WHUXGA image consists of 36,864,000 pixels (approximately 37 megapixels). A monitor of 7680 × 4320 would also qualify as a WHUXGA display. UHDV video requires a display of similar resolution (7680 × 4320) for properly displaying UHDV content, which is 16 times the resolution (four times the horizontal resolution and four times the vertical resolution) of 1080p "Full HD".

i think this will satisfy everyone ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HXGA#WHUXGA

here's pic from the uhdv section in wiki.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/UHDV.svg/800px-UHDV.svg.png

THOMO
08-05-2010, 02:32 AM
yeah all 1080 is peasant quality. A decent monitor, a descaler with ability and some custom resolutions and it's all good.

4k video is the only way to go now........once you've seen it everything else looks block-tastic.

gillll
08-05-2010, 03:03 AM
but... check this.

what wii be the point of 8k 60" res screen in 15ft distance ?

http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.png

ownage
08-05-2010, 03:14 AM
but... check this.

what wii be the point of 8k 60" res screen in 15ft distance ?

http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.png

Thanks, now I understand why I love my 40inch 720P so much. I have exacty the right viewing distance, so no need for 1080P screen here.

gillll
08-05-2010, 03:37 AM
well i'm ~6 feet from 42"fhd and also i'm good.

tdream
08-24-2010, 03:07 AM
I think you need better source material

Gamekiller
08-24-2010, 03:30 AM
I think you need better source material

That's the easy part I'd think. Once many people have TVs that can support a certain resolution then sat/cable will start broadcasting in it. Even if it's just sports at first and then normal channels.