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koksy
04-26-2010, 07:27 AM
Do they actually run at 75Hz? How come there are so few of them? How come it was such a huge breakthrough to make 120Hz monitors if it was no problem going from 60 to 75? So many questions D:

Helloworld_98
04-26-2010, 07:53 AM
for your first question, yes, second, because it was to please CRT users in the early days of the CRT to LCD switchover, well doubling the hz on a monitor with double the pixels on them is pretty hard to do considering voltage, heat, etc can cause failure a lot quicker.

think of a 120hz LCD like taking an i7 920 and overclocking it 100%, it's not going to last as long whereas if you used a w3580 and overclocked it to the same speed, it'll last quite a bit longer.

Aedubber
04-26-2010, 10:34 AM
They actuall do have a gaming LCD monitor that is 120 hertz now and a lot of the new TVs are coming out like that as well.. LED is going to be the next new big hit soon

MadHacker
04-26-2010, 11:03 AM
also 120Hz monitors can do 3D, 60Hz per eye.

MrDiaz
04-26-2010, 11:16 AM
also 120Hz monitors can do 3D, 60Hz per eye.

No they can't

edit: thought you said "all"

MadHacker
04-26-2010, 11:19 AM
No they can't

edit: thought you said "all"

depends on video card as well.
Nvidia supports this with shutter glasses,
so it alternates showing 1 eye to the other.

i didn't know there were 120Hz lcd that didn't suport this.
can you give an example?

STEvil
04-26-2010, 06:53 PM
MadHacker - any 120hz LCD that uses interpolation cannot do 3D at 60hz.

However, any LCD on the market can do 3D at 30hz.

MadHacker
04-26-2010, 06:58 PM
MadHacker - any 120hz LCD that uses interpolation cannot do 3D at 60hz.

However, any LCD on the market can do 3D at 30hz.

thanks good to know.

Serpentarius
04-26-2010, 06:59 PM
60Hz vs. 120Hz vs. 240Hz vs. 480Hz - LCD Response Rate (http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv/120hz-240hz-60hz.html)

zanzabar
04-26-2010, 07:01 PM
MadHacker - any 120hz LCD that uses interpolation cannot do 3D at 60hz.

However, any LCD on the market can do 3D at 30hz.

since standard film is only 24hz it makes u wounder why there is the push for 120hz 3d and if its nothing more than forced obsoleteance

koksy
04-27-2010, 02:30 AM
Very interesting.

So how come there are so few 75Hz? the more the merrier, right?

Also, does v-sync work the same way on 75Hz monitors, as with 60Hz? Or will you still be limited to 60fps on a 75Hz monitor?

RaZz!
04-27-2010, 05:46 AM
60Hz vs. 120Hz vs. 240Hz vs. 480Hz - LCD Response Rate (http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv/120hz-240hz-60hz.html)

you have to consider the difference between TVs and pc monitors, though. both handle the refresh rate slightly different.

STEvil
04-27-2010, 07:12 PM
Very interesting.

So how come there are so few 75Hz? the more the merrier, right?

Also, does v-sync work the same way on 75Hz monitors, as with 60Hz? Or will you still be limited to 60fps on a 75Hz monitor?

Because 75hz was a dead standard.. nobody cared.

VSYNC locks you at the refresh rate that the display is set to display.. 24, 25, 30, 60, 75, 120. anywhere you choose.


Serpentarius - That link is junk for the most part. Refreshing a pixel with information it already holds gives no performance increase. No LCD actually works beyond 120hz (everything beyond that is interpolation), and only approximately 6 displays on the market today are actually capable of producing a TRUE 120hz image.

most of them are very scarce.

Soulburner
04-30-2010, 04:11 AM
since standard film is only 24hz it makes u wounder why there is the push for 120hz 3d and if its nothing more than forced obsoleteance
120 divides into 24 nicely, by 5. 60 doesn't :cool:

zanzabar
04-30-2010, 10:15 AM
120 divides into 24 nicely, by 5. 60 doesn't :cool:

u need special cameras why why not just use 30fps film (or capture now) as u do for tv, or in europe with pal they use 25frame cinema and 50 frame tv so why do they need to upgrade it seams perfectly linear

MadHacker
04-30-2010, 11:07 AM
actualy NTSC framerate for tv is 29.976 FPS
what does that divide into nicely?

Soulburner
04-30-2010, 04:06 PM
actualy NTSC framerate for tv is 29.976 FPS
what does that divide into nicely?
59.952Hz :D

I was simply implying 120Hz allows 24fps material to play without judder, something LCDs normally cannot do.

STEvil
04-30-2010, 05:59 PM
Also they are going for 120hz because thats what you need to do two 60hz images to produce a playable 3D picture for gaming.

120hz means backwards compatability with everything that is less than 120hz.

Cow2kie
06-15-2010, 02:29 PM
Because 75hz was a dead standard.. nobody cared.

... and only approximately 6 displays on the market today are actually capable of producing a TRUE 120hz image.

most of them are very scarce.

What are the true 120hz pc monitors?

STEvil
06-15-2010, 07:35 PM
What are the true 120hz pc monitors?

Acer has a couple, Alienware uses them in their knock-off body jobs.

thats assuming you mean 1920x1080 panels. There's one or two that are 1680x1050, but who cares about that resolution? ;)

edit - everything else is a "TV"

Shalamay
06-15-2010, 11:36 PM
so, no 1920x1200 panels?

Cow2kie
06-16-2010, 02:51 PM
Acer has a couple, Alienware uses them in their knock-off body jobs.

thats assuming you mean 1920x1080 panels. There's one or two that are 1680x1050, but who cares about that resolution? ;)

edit - everything else is a "TV"

Are all the ones from Acer true 120hz? (that are marketed as 120hz)

STEvil
06-16-2010, 08:48 PM
There's only two that I know of.

Cow2kie
06-17-2010, 02:21 PM
What are the two that you know of? ;)

STEvil
06-17-2010, 09:33 PM
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