I want an LED

[breathemetal]

And im thinkin about this:

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod901238#spec

47'', 1080p, LED-LCD, and a pretty good deal

what do u think?

[Soulburner]

I'll save you $300 bucks and get you a better TV.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P46S2-46-Inch-1080p-Plasma/dp/B0036VNSZO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=tv&qid=1270815975&sr=1-5

It's a new 2010 model so there are no reviews yet. Its a refresh of this (http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P42S1-42-Inch-Plasma/dp/B001UE6M8O/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=tv&qid=1270815975&sr=1-6) set.

Of course you can get it at Crutchfield, Vanns, OneCall, etc...

http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/us2010/index.html

Some reading for you...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1216817
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=767932&page=34

[breathemetal]

I dont want to deal with breaking in my tv

[[XC] leviathan18]

with led you almost get plasma contrast ratios and you consume like 70% less in electricity which is great...

[Soulburner]

I dont want to deal with breaking in my tv
That's not even an excuse. Get the better TV - you will be glad you did when you have perfect viewing angles, motion, blacks and colors. All of those things are not as good with LCD technology - no matter who makes it. And they don't need fake processing to try to create "smooth" motion, either.

If you go to any competant site or retailer looking for recommendation on TVs for games and movies, Plasma is #1 every time - except in cases where you want a very small set. These models start at 42".


leviathan18;4332161']with led you almost get plasma contrast ratios and you consume like 70% less in electricity which is great...
Energy consumption is a valid point, but it ends up being a few dollars a month if you use it a lot. At these sizes it isn't a huge difference. Wait until you look at the power needs of their 65" model :eek:

(600-700 watts)

[breathemetal]

Im also going to use it as my PC monitor as well as my tv. Is plasma fine for 24/7 use and lots of gaming and switching between tasks without burn ins?
Give me a guide on how to "break in" a plasma as well please, thanks!

After looking at the SamsClub site I can get a 50+ inch plasma for decent prices! Im starting to like the idea of a 50'' plasma! haha.
I just need some more info/help from you guys first

[EniGmA1987]

You dont *have* to break in a plasma screen. But if you want to, download a plasma burn-in DVD and run it overnight for a few nights. I honestly have never run a burn-in DVD for 200 hours. Thats a bit ridiculous.

But +1 for plasma screens, WAY better than LCD technology. Cheaper too.


I used an older plasma (42" Phillips, some 2004 model) as a computer monitor and thought it was fine. It took browsing websites for 6 hours a day, every day, for a few months to notice any kind of burn in. SO if you are a heavy web browser like I used to be, plasma probably isnt for you. But if you only do a couple hours a day, along with other stuff, then I shouldnt really be too big of an issue that you need to worry about. If you wanted to be really safe, you could run a "screen wiper" DVD or something once a week to help remove any sort of image retention. Many plasma TVs have that type of thing built in to the menu area now.



While that "S2" TV is really nice, I would spend $1200 and go with a 42" "G25" model. Or larger if you can afford it. The G25 line is the "full featured" line minus 3D support. The S2 line is a lower end line, it "only" has 2,000,000:1 native contrast ratio. The G25 line is a native 5,000,000:1 contrast. The VT line is the same 5,000,000:1 contrast and other stuff, along with full 1080p 3D support.
http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/us2010/product/g_plasma_spec.html


Also. The new 2010 models fo plasma have much lower power consumption. That 46" S2 (and G25) model posted in the 2nd post only uses 119w of power. Thats pretty much the same as LED TVs.

[breathemetal]

Just seems like a LCD/LED would be a safer option

[Soulburner]

You dont *have* to break in a plasma screen. But if you want to, download a plasma burn-in DVD and run it overnight for a few nights. I honestly have never run a burn-in DVD for 200 hours. Thats a bit ridiculous.

But +1 for plasma screens, WAY better than LCD technology. Cheaper too.


I used an older plasma (42" Phillips, some 2004 model) as a computer monitor and thought it was fine. It took browsing websites for 6 hours a day, every day, for a few months to notice any kind of burn in. SO if you are a heavy web browser like I used to be, plasma probably isnt for you. But if you only do a couple hours a day, along with other stuff, then I shouldnt really be too big of an issue that you need to worry about. If you wanted to be really safe, you could run a "screen wiper" DVD or something once a week to help remove any sort of image retention. Many plasma TVs have that type of thing built in to the menu area now.



While that "S2" TV is really nice, I would spend $1200 and go with a 42" "G25" model. Or larger if you can afford it. The G25 line is the "full featured" line minus 3D support. The S2 line is a lower end line, it "only" has 2,000,000:1 native contrast ratio. The G25 line is a native 5,000,000:1 contrast. The VT line is the same 5,000,000:1 contrast and other stuff, along with full 1080p 3D support.
http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/us2010/product/g_plasma_spec.html


Also. The new 2010 models fo plasma have much lower power consumption. That 46" S2 (and G25) model posted in the 2nd post only uses 119w of power. Thats pretty much the same as LED TVs.
The contrast is the same. If these TVs are the same as last year's, they both use the same panel. One has some additional "infinite black" thing that allows them to advertise a higher contrast ratio but they are using the same panel. The differences are very minimal...this is something I researched for the S1/G10 models (last year) and they were pretty much the same TV with a few different tweaks.

I'd like to know if the new ones are differentiated more.

PC use can be an issue with a Plasma, but with the new ones it shouldn't be a huge deal unless like said, you sit on the same/similar screen content for hours on end. It is pretty hard to create image retention on a new plasma.

As for power consumption...the advertised wattage is before calibration, and its to keep the eco nazis off their backs. When you calibrate them for correct brightness they actually use a lot more energy, so I've read. I don't actually have personal experience with one yet, but these are my #1 TV choice if I were buying today. I personally got a 65" Mitsu Diamond DLP last year for $1600 which was a great deal for such a set compared to other techs.

Plasma is a cut above LCD for movies and games. For PC use, generally LCD is a better choice but how much of each will you be doing? Be honest. Personally, I prefer to keep mine separated, in different rooms rather than trying to make 1 all purpose device. Each one suited to what its designed for. Besides, then no one else could use it.

[wragh]

I have a 55" samsung LED and it is fantastic. One of the best purchases i've made recently.

[PaganII]

If Samsung builds their TVs like their monitors you're gonna need a manual, soldering iron and a bunch of higher quality capacitors about 2 days after the warranty runs out. No more Sammys for me.

[o0Lo0P0o]

I just bought a Pioneer Kuro Elite Pro-101FD, Best thing I ever laid my eyes on. I have had since Feb and have not had one instance of IR or Burn in and I have been playing games on it just fine. I just could not bring myself to buy a LED based LCD, the viewing angles were sad. Honestly I still have not found any type of LCD display that is good enough for me.

[EniGmA1987]

Wow very nice purchase with that Kuro.

[Donnie27]

First, I've been won over to the Plasma side from the LCD or LED. I too like DLP better for most uses and they aren't the most reliable though.

I was treated to a Demo of a Panasonic VT 50 3D TV. My thinking was O-F, another money grab Gimmick. Geesh was I wrong as hell. The 3D Glasses were OK but I still wish they'd sell flip downs for us folks who wear glasses. I left wishing I had a two thousand dollars to play with.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/video_conferencing/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=a3092263

[breathemetal]

So is this a good tv?

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod1110761&navAction=push

Im not going plasma. Either LCD or LED

[panzerchaos47]

Damn I thought plasma was fading out because they hardly mention in stores and internet. lol It's kind like HD-DVD I never they existed until I find article about HD-DVD is losing the format wars. Last time I heard about plasma is when my cousin bought it 8 years ago. Later replace with I think a DLP. I thought it was going be replace but I guess this tech is still here.

[breathemetal]

Might be going in monday to check it out and buy it

[Donnie27]

Might be going in monday to check it out and buy it

I couldn't comment since I didn't see it until last night. Nice but I'd want the larger model, either 50 or 55".

Review (http://www.flat-screen-hdtv.com/2010/02/08/review-of-vizio-sv472xvt-47-inch-led-lcd-vizio-internet-apps-hdtv-class-xvt-series-truled-240hz-sps/)

[AmiJIm]

I would buy a philips 9664 model.
lcd - led - 200hz and nice price at least in Greece.
Philips 42PFL9664H - 42" LCD TV - FullHD - 200Hz - + Philips Blu-Ray BDP-7500 Player
price drop from 1800 dollars to 1200 dollars.
That is an offer for my place
http://multirama.gr/products/product?pid=0415872&catid=060100

[SlyMaelstrom]

Im not going plasma. Either LCD or LEDWhy you would go LCD over Plasma is beyond me. If you don't mind spending the cash for a true LED TV, then go for it. The picture is almost as good as plasma and it will pay for itself down the line in electric bills. However, I wouldn't go Vizio. Samsung currently makes the best LED TVs available, in my opinion. Their plasma line is pretty good too (Almost as good as the Pioneer Kuro line). I would never go non-LED LCD, though. I wouldn't even go LED edge-lit. Terrible contrast, poor refresh rate... too many factors to count. Most people would agree your only options should be LED or plasma... and if you're ruling out plasma, I guess you're going LED.

... Just don't get a Vizio...