which top for a ddc [Archive] - XtremeSystems Forums

dud3man

03-30-2010, 07:04 PM

ive been planing to water cool my 440x3 with a apogee gt with a mcr120, and im going to be using a ddc-1/mcp350 and have been looking for the best top to go with.

bundymania

03-30-2010, 07:59 PM

I´ve made a big roundup with Laing tops some month ago, just have a look and check the flowrate results (or use an translator :) )

http://www.highflow.nl/forum/f18/review-laing-top-5-25-bay-res-comparison-13-models-tested-4268/

If you´re in the market for the quietest top, i would recommend the top from Zern, Koolance, or XSPC !

Slowb00st

03-31-2010, 05:11 AM

ive been planing to water cool my 440x3 with a apogee gt with a mcr120, and im going to be using a ddc-1/mcp350 and have been looking for the best top to go with.

http://martin.skinneelabs.com/DDC31PumpTopTesting.html

H2O

03-31-2010, 07:54 AM

Personally, I am a big fan of the EK and XSPC tops.

skinnee

03-31-2010, 08:02 AM

My DDC reviews have been delayed... but for good reason, more tops arrived and will be included in the round-up and yes dual DDC3.25's are included. Testing resumes later this week.

:toast:

NKrader

03-31-2010, 08:20 AM

My DDC reviews have been delayed... but for good reason, more tops arrived and will be included in the round-up and yes dual DDC3.25's are included. Testing resumes later this week.

:toast:

gaww.. not to belittle your tests oor anything skinneee i love you.

but realisticly.. with how close all of the mid to high priced water cooling products now there really isnt that much of a differance bettween most things.. 1c-2c-3c.. +1 to headpressure.. +.5gph is that really that big of differance?

you could pick by looks alone and still get a really good cooling system now as most of the products are fighting for the "best" temps and they make their products and test against the others in house? :shrug:

again im not talking crap. and i love your tests :D they are legit as I love having the lowest possible temps cuz im one of those people who buy they best just to have it.. lol. im just a hypocrite..

seeka12

03-31-2010, 09:01 AM

Waterlogged

03-31-2010, 09:16 AM

Delirious

03-31-2010, 09:21 AM

I would choose the EK over XSPC. I know for certain that EK products are made on real CNC equipment. Looking at some of the XSPC top volutes a few ppl have questioned here, I'd have to say that they are probably made by some 12Y.O. Chinese kid with a router that's getting paid $.05/piece.

Being the owner of one of those XSPC tops I would have to agree with you.

seeka12

03-31-2010, 09:26 AM

I would choose the EK over XSPC. I know for certain that EK products are made on real CNC equipment. Looking at some of the XSPC top volutes a few ppl have questioned here, I'd have to say that they are probably made by some 12Y.O. Chinese kid with a router that's getting paid $.05/piece.

i think that XSPC tops look like as if they are low quality,don't know does it look that only to me or anyone agree?:shrug:

H2O

03-31-2010, 09:29 AM

skinnee

03-31-2010, 09:46 AM

The EK tops are much better in visual quality; Permformance wise, the EK has the top end flow rate and higher flow PQ advantage where the XSPC tops produce more pressure at lower flow rates (quick chart to make sense of my statement).

http://skinneelabs.com/sample/quickDDC32.png

note: see why I am including more tops, 3 tops is rather bland for charting and a comparison. :)

woffen

03-31-2010, 09:58 AM

skinnee, what is a XSPC V3 DDC Reservoir top??

justin.kerr

03-31-2010, 10:01 AM

will the dual tops be in the review also? please? :D

Zigosity

03-31-2010, 10:02 AM

i think that XSPC tops look like as if they are low quality,don't know does it look that only to me or anyone agree?:shrug:

My first XSPC restop leaked after 3 months... They sent me a new one overnight and it's been fine since. Nothing wrong with them and great customer service if something does go wrong...

skinnee

03-31-2010, 10:04 AM

skinnee, what is a XSPC V3 DDC Reservoir top??

XSPC modified the design of their tops last year, which was the 3rd version. For all retail purposes there is no versioning, just how I kept everything straight between the versions tested internally. Well, that and little sticker labels.

will the dual tops be in the review also? please? :D

Yup, several dual scenarios will be covered. :)

woffen

03-31-2010, 10:07 AM

Did the versions with a reservoir change as well?

I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=40_102&products_id=515

skinnee

03-31-2010, 10:10 AM

To my knowledge the res tops would've changed as well, yes. Probably depends on stock though. And the differences between versions were extremely small, within margin of error on my meters.

woffen

03-31-2010, 10:15 AM

Ok, I was hoping they were coming out with a totally new top/res design.

Thank you kind sir for the great information once again:up:

seeka12

03-31-2010, 10:23 AM

My first XSPC restop leaked after 3 months... They sent me a new one overnight and it's been fine since. Nothing wrong with them and great customer service if something does go wrong...

well then i am wrong :D but i feel like that EK is a more reputable company

seeka12

03-31-2010, 10:29 AM

@Skinee:

you are really my hero,thanks for all the efforts you always do and thanks for taking time in testing products :rocker: :clap:

silverphoenix

03-31-2010, 10:58 AM

I would choose the EK over XSPC. I know for certain that EK products are made on real CNC equipment. Looking at some of the XSPC top volutes a few ppl have questioned here, I'd have to say that they are probably made by some 12Y.O. Chinese kid with a router that's getting paid $.05/piece.

From owning both top's I'd agree the EK top has a higher quality but the XSPC isn't routed/cnc'ed or milled it looks like it is injection molded mostly, which is probably done for real cheap in China.

dud3man

03-31-2010, 01:40 PM

ok so i should be go with this top (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_439_770&products_id=22865)?

astrodanco

03-31-2010, 03:14 PM

ok so i should be go with this top (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_439_770&products_id=22865)?
Sure, but I'd recommend this (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_439_770&products_id=27149) top along with TWO pumps for better flow.

kgtiger

03-31-2010, 04:49 PM

Excellent to hear Skinnee. :up:
I hope the Watercools dual top, that is the one with the inlet in the top, is in the shotout.
But I guess as I already have it :rolleyes: it doesn't really matter now. :D
Will be nice to see where it sits but.

All the best to y'a Skinnee. :up:

dud3man

03-31-2010, 05:32 PM

Sure, but I'd recommend this (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_439_770&products_id=27149) top along with TWO pumps for better flow.

i dont need 2 pumps.

HuffPCair

03-31-2010, 05:52 PM

I have the EK top from sidewinders that I am not using. Actually it has never been used at all. I bought it and then changed my mind. If you are in the US I would sell it to you for 20 bucks shipped if you are interested. Just PM me

dud3man

04-17-2010, 07:51 PM

i ended up getting this (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_439_770&products_id=22865) top

Humminn55

04-18-2010, 02:06 AM

From owning both top's I'd agree the EK top has a higher quality but the XSPC isn't routed/cnc'ed or milled it looks like it is injection molded mostly, which is probably done for real cheap in China.

Well, don't know what XSPC top you've owned, but the two I have plainly show milling marks in them. Of course, you do have to look for the remnants of the milling because the tops are polished after milling...but the marks are still there.