Best Radiator for GT Typhoon AP-15 ?

[Spinzaku]

What's the best Radiator for GT Typhoon AP-15 ?

is it Thermochill or Feser? :confused: or other brands out there.

Triple or Quad please

[NaeKuh]

XSPC, something with a large fpi.

You want to avoid the radiators which have tight fpi, like GTX, GTS.

[Conumdrum]

XSPC RX series rads, Black Ice SR-1, ThermoChill. Even Feser, but I don't like Feser as a company.

[Spinzaku]

Hmm i wanna order @ sidewinder, but they dont seem to have XSPC on there radiator section..

Black Ice SR Series
vs
Feser
vs
Thermchochill

I want to use the 1850 RPM Typhoons

[Factotum]

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:up:

[millertime359]

EK and Swiftech rads also. :)

[Factotum]

more photo
RX360 and airplex revolution 420/360:
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[Conumdrum]

Tell you what. You can figure it out yourself. Here is some great links for scientific tests done by the best.

http://www.skinneelabs.com/
http://martin.skinneelabs.com/

[Spinzaku]

thanks so much for the websites :)

I wonder.. a friend of mine is selling me a Black Ice GTX 480 at a very cheap price, do you think this radiator will work well with Typhoons? although i checked that its better for higher rpms fans? hmm he is offering me panaflo's lol
but checking this review:

http://www.skinneelabs.com/assets/images/Radiators/TripleV2/triples-v2_OC920_deltaT.jpg

[Church]

RPM range with which gtx rads start to shine is loud for even best/quietest fans. On the other hand it can compensate it by large area (if compared to tripples on this chart) and you said about cheap price deal. From what i've heard, BI gtx rads also does very well in looks area. Hard decision :)

[Spinzaku]

hmm i think better to have those nice panaflo fans on the gtx, and GT typhoons on the rest of the fans on the case =o

[woffen]

Well comparing the 1800rpm staples the GTX is the best. It is very close with the SR1 though. Maybe you could have push/pull with the GT to make up for the lack of super high rpm?

[millertime359]

Well comparing the 1800rpm staples the GTX is the best. It is very close with the SR1 though. Maybe you could have push/pull with the GT to make up for the lack of super high rpm?

+1

you won't have to deal with the loud Panaflows unless your like Sad and enjoy having a hovercraft as a computer. :p:

[vinay]

Even i was looking for the same at 1400RPM and was planning to get the XSPC but not available in sidewinders , neither is GTX.. Looks like SR1360/PA120.3/MCR320 is the way to go..
Is the MCR320 as good as the rest for i7 ? i ask this since it does not look to be as thick as PA120.3/RX360..

[millertime359]

The others do offer slightly better heat dissipation by a few degrees. This doesn't mean that you will see a few degrees lower temps at the CPU.

To answer your question though, yes it will handle an I7 just fine. :)

[the finisher]

Panafol's are loud, I sent them packing. SA M speed FTW.

[vinay]

The others do offer slightly better heat dissipation by a few degrees. This doesn't mean that you will see a few degrees lower temps at the CPU.


I dont get it.. dissipates heat by few degrees but will not see similar drop in temps at CPU..? :confused:


To answer your question though, yes it will handle an I7 just fine. :)

That sounds good since will be saving ~40$... but then why is RX360 more recommened radiator ?

P.S.:Sorry if i am diverting from OP

[the finisher]

IMO it's hard to have a recommended radiator, only choices to make depending on the results you want.
They are all good IMO, some better but cost can be an issue.

[millertime359]

I dont get it.. dissipates heat by few degrees but will not see similar drop in temps at CPU..? :confused:



That sounds good since will be saving ~40$... but then why is RX360 more recommened radiator ?

P.S.:Sorry if i am diverting from OP

Radiators dissipate heat. Some have the ability to dissipate more.

Let's say you have a load of 200 watts that needs to be removed. One radiator does 220 watts, the other does 230 watts.

The other one is better, but all you need to get rid of is 200 watts.

You understand now?

This is XS systems. Most people prefer to get the higher end stuff, The XSPC is better, but not $40 better IMO, that is why I get Swiftech rads. :)

[Boulard83]

I have 3 GT's 1850 hooked to my TFC Xchanger 360 with 50mm shroud Pull.

My DT is ~7°c from room temp to water temp @ 1200rpm ( pulling from inside the case ). * After several hours of gaming *

[Sadasius]

I have 3 GT's 1850 hooked to my TFC Xchanger 360 with 50mm shroud Pull.

My DT is ~7°c from room temp to water temp @ 1200rpm ( pulling from inside the case ). * After several hours of gaming *

That's not too bad at all. Take the shroud off and put on another set of fans in push/pull and you will have increased performance and using less space. :up:

[Boulard83]

The TFC360 is to thick ... i cant mount the TFC with a fan inside the case cause i end up hiting the 8pin CPU with one of the fans .. Currently, the rad is inside and the shroud/fan on top of the case.

Ill need to mount the rad external to be able to put fans in push/pull. But my result arnt bad ;)

[eth0s]

The TFC360 is to thick ... i cant mount the TFC with a fan inside the case cause i end up hiting the 8pin CPU with one of the fans .. Currently, the rad is inside and the shroud/fan on top of the case.

Ill need to mount the rad external to be able to put fans in push/pull. But my result arnt bad ;)

I had the same problem with a physical conflict with the motherboard, but I got better results mounting 5 fans on the TFC 360 in a Cosmos S case. Mount 3 fans on top pulling air into the case, and then mount 2 fans under radiator pulling down into case. Pulling air from outside is cooler, and gives better results. I know because I tried it both ways. But as you say, your results are fine, and if you are happy then keep it, but buying two more fans, and changing direction of air-flow, will give you better performance.

[Sadasius]

No your results are pretty good. Did not know your restraints and thought swapping the 50mm shroud for 25mm fans would have saved you space but I understand now what you had to overcome. :up:

[strike]

I have a Pa 120.3 thermochill 15mm spacing with GT´s and low speed
very cool!!

[HuffPCair]

I have three GT 1850 on my xspc RX360 right now. They are doing a great job. My temps with a 4ghz overclock hits 60C max. usually in the lower 50C when crunching.

The noise level isnt like the usual noise they are very quiet for being 1850 rpm fans, but you get this humming noise and at first it kind of bothered me but I am used to it now.

[Spinzaku]

sidewinder doesnt have XSPC hmm..

Judging by the review, best rad for the GT FANS 1850 are GTX 360 and SR1 360 correct? im sad no reviews for EK Waterblocks EK-CoolStream RAD-XT 360

http://www.skinneelabs.com/assets/images/Radiators/TripleV2/triples-v2_OC920_deltaT.jpg

[HuffPCair]

I bought mine from Koolertech.com and highly recommend them. Most my stuff was from sidewinders minus my rad and fans since koolertech is having a sale on them.

[Spinzaku]

i dont live in the US :( can't order from koolertek

[woffen]

Where do you live then?

If you need to order from Europe I would take a look at UK shops and get a Thermochill rad instead of the RX cause they are cheaper than RX over there. Here is a example:

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/index.php?cPath=41

[the finisher]

ThermoChill FTW anyway:p:

[Spinzaku]

Looking at the review chart, HWLSR360, HWLGTX360 is better choice over Thermochill rad

[Kibbler]

Looking at the review chart, HWLSR360, HWLGTX360 is better choice over Thermochill radGTX yes. But SR1 was worse than the Thermochill at everything above 600rpm.

[Alexandr0s]

You do need to realize that at the RPM the GTX become better than the other rads (1800RPM), the fans get pretty loud. So unless you don't have a problem with loud fans, go for either the Swiftech MCR, HWLSR, ThermoChill or TFC :).

[woffen]

They are also a lot more expensive than the Thermochill in Europe. That is why I asked where you live :)

[vinay]

The others do offer slightly better heat dissipation by a few degrees. This doesn't mean that you will see a few degrees lower temps at the CPU.

To answer your question though, yes it will handle an I7 just fine. :)


Radiators dissipate heat. Some have the ability to dissipate more.

Let's say you have a load of 200 watts that needs to be removed. One radiator does 220 watts, the other does 230 watts.

The other one is better, but all you need to get rid of is 200 watts.

You understand now?

This is XS systems. Most people prefer to get the higher end stuff, The XSPC is better, but not $40 better IMO, that is why I get Swiftech rads. :)

yeah .. now i do.. :yepp:
looks like i will go with swiftech...but i like the thicks rads , dunno why though... :shrug:

[millertime359]

yeah .. now i do.. :yepp:
looks like i will go with swiftech...but i like the thicks rads , dunno why though... :shrug:

:)

There is nothing wrong with getting a thicker rad.

I like the Swiftech as a thinner rad can be easier to place in some case than a thicker rad.

Sometimes you have clearance issues with things like the MB. I also haven't been able to justify the extra cost for the thicker rads yet.

I'm certain one of my future builds will have one, but for now, Swiftech fits the bill for me. ;)

[vinay]

Since i new to LC prefer to keep it outside my case-CM690.

[H2O]

The TFC rads go really well with the 1850RPM GT fans. I'm using a TFC480 with those fans and it works really well.

[astrodanco]

When it comes to 120.3 radiators, given the performance numbers, I see absolutely no point in paying a high price for what amounts to only a tiny effectively insignificant performance improvement over the Swiftech MCR-320 (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo3xbl.html). Just get an MCR-320 (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo3xbl.html) from sidewindercomputers (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo3xbl.html) and smile all the way to the bank.

[Spinzaku]

thanks all for the advices, as i said before i am planning to only use gentle typhoons the 1850 versions at full speed. I don't mind doing push+pull if its needed.. reading all your posts its confusing, as some is pushing for Thermochill 120.3, some TFC, some XSPC, some HWS1, and even MCR320. o.O

[millertime359]

thanks all for the advices, as i said before i am planning to only use gentle typhoons the 1850 versions at full speed. I don't mind doing push+pull if its needed.. reading all your posts its confusing, as some is pushing for Thermochill 120.3, some TFC, some XSPC, some HWS1, and even MCR320. o.O

Everyone has their favorites.

For the fans you are using, any of the rads listed will be just fine.

HW SR1 is the best looking rad out of the group. The Swiftech is the least expensive and the thinnest (IIRC on thinnest).

End of the day it all depends on what you are going for.

Max performance where cost don't matter: TFC or Thermochill fit that bill.

Best looking rad where max performance isn't necessary, but still want it to perform well: HW SR1

A good budget rad that isn't too thick. Swiftech is right up your alley.

XSPC lands somewhere in the middle if the Swiftech and TFC/Thermochill

[H2O]

Everyone has their favorites.

For the fans you are using, any of the rads listed will be just fine.

HW SR1 is the best looking rad out of the group. The Swiftech is the least expensive and the thinnest (IIRC on thinnest).

End of the day it all depends on what you are going for.

Max performance where cost don't matter: TFC or Thermochill fit that bill.

Best looking rad where max performance isn't necessary, but still want it to perform well: HW SR1

A good budget rad that isn't too thick. Swiftech is right up your alley.

XSPC lands somewhere in the middle if the Swiftech and TFC/Thermochill

At these fan speeds, the HWL GTX rads would be the best, wouldn't they?

[Spinzaku]

well reading the reviews yep.. gtx is better o_O

i also saw the review for Koolance CU1020V radiator, any good? i really like it because its less thicker then most radiators

[Church]

gtx is better at rpm range most try to not run fans at, sr-1 is better at very slow/quiet ranges, and on par with others at middle speeds. To me choice is clear aswell, but differs from yours :)

[Waterlogged]

On the "best bang for the buck scale", it goes like this

MCR320-$67.95 @ P-PCs

XSPC360-$94.95 @ P-PCs

BI GTX360-$129.95 @ P-PCs

Honestly, at that price, I wouldn't even consider the GTX for a mere .74°C drop in temp (when compared to the MCR). . .that's almost twice the price for less than a 1°C drop in temps! :eek: I could buy a few extra things for the build with that extra $60 some odd dollars. ;) SR-1's are also another overpriced joke, at 1850, the MCR is actually better than it. . .and the MCR is closer to it throughout the entire tested range than it is to the GTX.

[Church]

Waterlogged: Price is important, but imho not the most important. I'm shure that there are enough people like me that will make one LC-ed box for themselves and gonna use it without any fidling with it for few years. So i'm guessing that for such people it's mostly 'one time purchase', where price matters less (especially if rest of top level components are even more expensive, like top cpu/top gpu-s and such). I doubt there are lot of people that can afford to mod/make projects on regular basis like 'gods' of this forum :). Of course, when often assembling new project price might make big difference. But for single project? I simply made choice of choosing best performing components that fits my needs. To me it's SR-1 that does best at fan speeds i'm gonna use it at. Of course, it's not gonna be 1850rpm. :)

[millertime359]

At these fan speeds, the HWL GTX rads would be the best, wouldn't they?

Thought GTX started to pull away at 1800, but it wasn't till about 2000 RPM where it really shined. Its been a while since I read the reviews. :shrug:


Waterlogged: Price is important, but imho not the most important. I'm shure that there are enough people like me that will make one LC-ed box for themselves and gonna use it without any fidling with it for few years. So i'm guessing that for such people it's mostly 'one time purchase', where price matters less (especially if rest of top level components are even more expensive, like top cpu/top gpu-s and such). I doubt there are lot of people that can afford to mod/make projects on regular basis like 'gods' of this forum :). Of course, when often assembling new project price might make big difference. But for single project? I simply made choice of choosing best performing components that fits my needs. To me it's SR-1 that does best at fan speeds i'm gonna use it at. Of course, it's not gonna be 1850rpm. :)

I'm in the same boat as water. If i were to build a show rig, I would get the SR-1 rad. For the performance difference, its just not worth it to me. Like water stated, 60 bucks could get a budget builder a FC GPU block over a GPU only block.

$60 also can buy a few BP fittings. ;)

Even better, it could be the reason to get a better CPU block and better TIM that will probably actually let them see a drop in temps.

Not trying to attack you, just making that point. :)

[H2O]

[QUOTE=millertime359;4318515]Thought GTX started to pull away at 1800, but it wasn't till about 2000 RPM where it really shined. Its been a while since I read the reviews. :shrug:[QUOTE]

Yeah, I took a look at Martin's old review of the GTX480 vs the Feser 480, and the point where the GTX's performance surpasses the Feser's was ~1800RPM. So with 1850RPM GTs wou can really go either way. :)

[millertime359]

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Yeah, I took a look at Martin's old review of the GTX480 vs the Feser 480, and the point where the GTX's performance surpasses the Feser's was ~1800RPM. So with 1850RPM GTs wou can really go either way. :)

Where the difference comes in is that if you decided that 1850 RPM is too loud for you, you could turn the fans down and not really affect performance on the Feser.

The GTX, you really can't do that. :(

[Church]

And from what i've heard often here on forum, GTs are quiet at 1100 and lower. So case with 1850rpm being too loud is very very probable.

[millertime359]

And from what i've heard often here on forum, GTs are quiet at 1100 and lower. So case with 1850rpm being too loud is very very probable.

Some people they are, for me they aren't. I think it may be due to the sound deadening materiel.

[Waterlogged]

Waterlogged: Price is important, but imho not the most important. I'm shure that there are enough people like me that will make one LC-ed box for themselves and gonna use it without any fidling with it for few years. So i'm guessing that for such people it's mostly 'one time purchase', where price matters less (especially if rest of top level components are even more expensive, like top cpu/top gpu-s and such). I doubt there are lot of people that can afford to mod/make projects on regular basis like 'gods' of this forum :). Of course, when often assembling new project price might make big difference. But for single project? I simply made choice of choosing best performing components that fits my needs. To me it's SR-1 that does best at fan speeds i'm gonna use it at. Of course, it's not gonna be 1850rpm. :)

You realize that (according to skinnee's testing) a SR-1 is only "better" than a MCR320 @ 600 RPM's and the difference between the two at that point is only .26°C?

Again...

MCR320 - $67.95 @ P-PCs

Black Ice SR-1 - $131.95 @ P-PCs

:confused:


...and if there's concerns about appearance, take that $64 you just saved by getting the MCR and get the rad professionally painted/powered coated.:p:;)

[Church]

Waterlogged: .. and SR-1(alongside GTX) are only series having quad 140mm rad in line which i plan to build sys arround. Extra fan/heat exchange area should help a bit too. So it's something like 5,5.120 rad :)

[ezaleina]

i wanna ask also.,is EK 480 rad ok.,in terms of performance?

[astrodanco]

MCR320 - $67.95
Why pay $67.95 when you can pay $48.95 (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo3xbl.html) instead, making the deal even sweeter?

[the finisher]

Why pay $67.95 when you can pay $48.95 (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo3xbl.html) instead, making the deal even sweeter?

Ya, Gary rocks.:D

[Waterlogged]

Waterlogged: .. and SR-1(alongside GTX) are only series having quad 140mm rad in line which i plan to build sys arround. Extra fan/heat exchange area should help a bit too. So it's something like 5,5.120 rad :)

Hm, I thought the OP was asking which rad was best for 1850RPM GT's, that kind of makes 140mm rads irrelevant. Besides, give Swifty a little time, they'll be spanking the 140mm rads the same way they are now once Gabe & Co start producing them. ;)


Why pay $67.95 when you can pay $48.95 (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo3xbl.html) instead, making the deal even sweeter?

Two reasons, P-PCs was the only e-tailer to carry all the models I priced for a fair price comparison and I have "issues" with Gary's affiliations so I refuse to even visit his site. Instead of getting the rad from P-PCs, I'd get it from Petra's for $47.95. :p::D

[gmat]

Besides, give Swifty a little time, they'll be spanking the 140mm rads the same way they are now once Gabe & Co start producing them. ;)
well the SR-1 is 140mm already ? (and performing rather well i think)

[Church]

gmat: both GTX and SR1 have 1-2-3-4 rads for both 120mm and 140mm. GTS have models for both fan sizes too, but only upto tripples.

[gmat]

Oh nvm i misunderstood Waterlogged's statement

[silverphoenix]

I use 6 of these fans on BI GTS' which were the best choice in my situation since for my build even the MCR320 is to thick just by a few mm. The fans move air surprisingly well through the dense fins, gives me great temps and according to tests they are fast enough to perform better on some higher FPI rads than lower FPI. Again there are alot of variables to consider. I don't regret my GTS' purchase they are barely more expensive than the MCR, with the 1850rpm fans outperform the MCR's and I love the build quality on HWlabs rads.