Guess the ppd....

[OldChap]

Lets have a go at guessing the ppd

GeForce GTX 480 : 512 SP, 384-bit, 295W TDP, US$499

GeForce GTX 470 : 448 SP, 320-bit, 225W TDP, US$349

(this is the latest info I've read)

[mreuter80]

what does the winner get?

[shadowwind]

ok i guess 35k a day not oced time will tell all when it released.:shrug:

[=[PULSAR]=]

Well it would benefit greatly if nvidia released clock speeds!

[CaptMorgan]

=;4293911']Well it would benefit greatly if nvidia released clock speeds!

I am pretty sure it would benefit to just release:D

[Mabyboi]

60k for the 480
40k for the 470

[OldChap]

I'm going for....

470 = 52k
480 = 61k

[Otis11]

470: ~55K
480: ~63k (59k if 480 Shaders)

Based for 675 Mhz clock speeds... that'd be my best guess. :up:

[Snow Crash]

Interesting topic ... WAGs PPD based on WAG specs :rofl:

I'm gonna go with 120k for the 480.
I'm thinking with a few more shaders (if 512) that a 295 then bump up to GDDR5 and then factor in the architecture improvements.
For what we are doing I think these cards are going to be freaking great.
Don't forget, GPUGrid is currently working through beta issues for another 25% improvement :up:
If I'm wrong then I still get to kick some ascii with my 295 :sofa:

[lkiller123]

480: 70k
470: 55k-60k

[DAK1640]

480 = 61.5k

[=[PULSAR]=]

So looks like this will outperform a 295 by roughly 50%?

[OldChap]

surely a 295 will do 50k+ ??

I'm expecting the 470 to equal the 295

[PoppaGeek]

:scope::comp10:After a thorough analysis I conclude I dunno. :shrug:

[Snow Crash]

currently my overclocked 295 is the number 12 host on GPUGrid @68,236.71

[pwolfe]

where can you view that info, I'm curious what my 295 is ranked at.

[Snow Crash]

On their home page, in the right hand frame, top hosts.
http://www.gpugrid.net/top_hosts.php

[CaptMorgan]

Snow Crash is up- time for me to go to bed. sorry I need to guess points but unable to as a result of my brain being mashed potatoes. How about 26 kegs of Guinness in 1 Day

[stoneageman]

480 ~ 100k :rolleyes:
470 ~ 85k

[Snow Crash]

Snow Crash is up- time for me to go to bed. sorry I need to guess points but unable to as a result of my brain being mashed potatoes. How about 26 kegs of Guinness in 1 Day

good gosh ... didn't you started serving that Guinness at 8:00 AM ... looking at your post time I'd say you just had one really long azz day and deserve a Guinness yourself :toast:

Just noticed that on the early mornig pie today your are ahead of 123bob :shocked:

[Naja002]

:scope::comp10:After a thorough analysis I conclude I dunno. :shrug:

Damn. :shocked: You stole my guess....:down:




:D

[INFRNL]

ok i guess 35k a day not oced time will tell all when it released.:shrug:

:rofl:
a GTX 275 will do this much.

Are we guessing at stock speeds or overclocked:shrug:

Oc'd I say:
480= 68k
470= 64k
:shrug:

[Otis11]

Well, all other equal, the 480 at same clock should be

(512-448)/448 = 64/448 = 0.1428 or 14% faster/higher ppd roughly...

[NKrader]

I GUESS..

one dollar bob.

[OldChap]

Anandtech are saying that they get about 3.5 times the performance in folding as a gtx285 that would be around 120k ppd here :eek:

[=[PULSAR]=]

I was debating on the 480 but figure why dump money into multiple projects rather just get some 5870's and game. Spend the rest of my money crunching for WCG and the electric bill to go with :) Electric rate would be redicoulous too, calculations would put me at roughly $35/month to run one 24/7.

[zalbard]

It may be debatable for gaming, but for crunching there is only one card to get - GTX4x0.

[Snow Crash]

I have an EVGA GTX480 on order ... hopefully we will not have to guess at PPD much longer :yepp:

[Chumbucket843]

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3783&p=6
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/nvidiageforcegtx480launch_032610115215/22218.png
the 480 looks a lot better off on the gpgpu side.

[Snow Crash]

If that ratio holds true for GPUGrid I will be selling my GTX285 and GTX295 pronto!!!

[=[PULSAR]=]

Isn't that roughly the same numbers that 2 295's get?

[Kingcarcas]

I predict 100K and then 0 the next day because your power hungry card blew up:rofl:

[INFRNL]

Holy crap thats a difference. will have to wait for a good deal before I bite, but the cost should make up for more than a few of the current cards.
There are going to be some changes between team positions this year I think.

Looking forward to the results SC

@ Pulsar: according to the anandtech review. The GTX 480 folds 3.5x faster than a GTX 285. So I think it will be even better than 2 GTX 295s.
Definately worth the cost compared to production

Question though; is the 480 worth the premium over the 470? I would love to get a bunch of the single slot cards.

May have to sell off the rest of my GTX 275's and GTX 260 and get a couple of these cards

[Molotox]

Has anyone seen any charts of GTX 470 CUDA performance? Trying to figure out if I should preorder or not :shrug:

[Otis11]

On that - SC, how soon till we get some numbers?!?

[Snow Crash]

The long story is that while I was ordering my 480 online with EVGA my wife walks into the room ... I stop what I was doing so I could pay full attention to our ensuing *conversation*. A bit later I finish placing the order but it tells me I ordered a 470? I go back to change to a 480 but it won't let me. Apparently during the *conversation* with my wife, EVGA's 480 went from being in stock to "Inform me" (or whateverathehell EVGA calls it).

I now have it on backorder with Microcenter so i will likely not see it for, what a couple of weeks? What's the current estimate on general availability?

[INFRNL]

what option do you guys think is best? GTX 470 or 480? how much more performance will the 480 give over the 470? Also many say that we should wait for the next version/update on these cards; what do you think?
I am really tempted to sell my 275's/260 to get a couple cards, but not sure with the heat/noise issues brought up. also the fact that these suck up some serious juice.

anyone want to se the facts straight, or is it too early to tell?

[mreuter80]

What's the current estimate on general availability?
I believe April 12 will be the day ... but I don't know how "general" it will be though.

[Otis11]

Lookin forward to the numbers SC. :up:


what option do you guys think is best? GTX 470 or 480? how much more performance will the 480 give over the 470? Also many say that we should wait for the next version/update on these cards; what do you think?
I am really tempted to sell my 275's/260 to get a couple cards, but not sure with the heat/noise issues brought up. also the fact that these suck up some serious juice.

anyone want to se the facts straight, or is it too early to tell?

And yeah... I'm not to sure on this either. I'm debating getting one and running my 260 in phyX. :rofl:

But then I'm thinking I'm building my brother a computer in less than a year... If I wait for that, I can give him my 260 and then load up on the shrink...

Or then lookin at pickin up some of the cheap 2xx's but don't know if it's worth it for the price...

Everything is in the air as far as I can tell... If anyone has any info...

[=[PULSAR]=]

I'm finally going to wager a guess and say 90-100k daily :)

[Chumbucket843]

what option do you guys think is best? GTX 470 or 480? how much more performance will the 480 give over the 470? Also many say that we should wait for the next version/update on these cards; what do you think?
I am really tempted to sell my 275's/260 to get a couple cards, but not sure with the heat/noise issues brought up. also the fact that these suck up some serious juice.

anyone want to se the facts straight, or is it too early to tell?

gtx480 offers best performance.
it costs 40% more
20% faster.
they run at the same temps
the 480 uses 25% more power
its not as loud as the 470

if the 480 does pull 80K to 100K and i had the money i would buy it. i really dont see an update coming soon. we might see a refresh on 28nm with 6gpc's for a total of 768sp's. the lower end 400 series might be better options too. i think they will be out in a few months.

[INFRNL]

does anyone know if the grid supports these cards?

according to F@H they are still working to get these cards to work on F@H and numbers are not impressive from what I read. Hopefully they can get something figured out

[OldChap]

read the green panel (news) here http://www.gpugrid.net/index.php

[=[PULSAR]=]

The GTX4XX and GTS4XX cards are on the support gpu cuda page.

[=[PULSAR]=]

So has anyone heard anything I pretty tempted to buy a few if I could find them.

[INFRNL]

=;4347992']So has anyone heard anything I pretty tempted to buy a few if I could find them.

i was hoping you were here to tell us:rofl:
i want to know as well but have not seen any results. i am also wondering if we should wait for the revision but who knows how long that will be. i would like a hydro version, but thought about getting vanilla and adding h2o block later:shrug:

[=[PULSAR]=]

I'll go out and buy one tomorrow and find out if you could point me to a place that doesn't have an inflated price.

[INFRNL]

I almost bought one this past week, but I think everyone is out of stock that is closed to retail

[Snow Crash]

GPUGrid should be getting 1x480 and 1x470 later this week so they can test new versions of thier app as the current one crashes on 470/480.

[trn]

Well then... I guess 0 PPD i'm sure GPUgrid will get the cards up and running before availability is acctually reasonable for a 470/480.


GPUGrid should be getting 1x480 and 1x470 later this week so they can test new versions of thier app as the current one crashes on 470/480.

[=[PULSAR]=]

They had zotac and gigabyte 480's on sale at the egg today but as I was going through checkout they sold out :(

[INFRNL]

=;4351433']They had zotac and gigabyte 480's on sale at the egg today but as I was going through checkout they sold out :(

that sucks, I imagine these nly last for seconds, maybe a minute.
its funny that i have seen so many people say they wouldn't want one of these cards but they cannot stay in stock. obviously many are lying or there are just more interested than claiming

also i thought the grid page said they already support these cards:shrug::shakes:

[=[PULSAR]=]

Just snagged one 30 seconds ago at newegg. Can't wait for the grid to get this working and start folding away.

[Naja002]

The EVGA 480 shows out of stock, but if ya click on it...it doesn't....and it loads into the cart...with a free EVGA T-shirt. :up:

[=[PULSAR]=]

The EVGA 480 shows out of stock, but if ya click on it...it doesn't....and it loads into the cart...with a free EVGA T-shirt. :up:

Thats the one I just got. My phone started buzzing tell me I have a new e-mail and it was the in-stock notification. I never ran so fast to my computer :p:

[Snow Crash]

=;4355604']Thats the one I just got. My phone started buzzing tell me I have a new e-mail and it was the in-stock notification. I never ran so fast to my computer :p:

Great work. I was just reading on GPUGrid that they have installed the cards and confirmed the error. Now we have to be patient a little while longer for them to release a fix/ new beta.

Any other GPU projects have work for the 480?
I'd like to spin this up and see how they do heat wise while under a sustained load.

[=[PULSAR]=]

Doesn't milkway@home use nvidia cards also?

[Snow Crash]

They do support older cards (funny to say that about GTX295) but when I pulled a WU from them last night it immedatley errored. I'll check back with them tonight

[=[PULSAR]=]

They do support older cards (funny to say that about GTX295) but when I pulled a WU from them last night it immedatley errored. I'll check back with them tonight

Between just buying a 980X and 480 I think its time to start finding homes for the two 295's I have sitting around :p: