Some more AMD/KX7 bandwidth goodness

[MrIcee]

Hi guys:)

I hope you guys are all sitting down:D

I've been working diligently lately on some review material and last night did some bandwidth evals on a stick of ram I'm currently working with....its a widely available PC3200 stick...and does this stuff run. It does NOT like 1T command over about 203Mhz...but at 3.22v ran all the way to 226Mhz at cas 2, 4 way interleave, 2-5-2, Enhance dram enabled, 2T Dram access,Que Depth 4 and 2T command. I also am using my normal WPCrset tweaks 6A=FF and 93=FF.

I must say I anxiously await a KT-400 board..because if they scale better up the FSB WITHOUT AGP tearing...AMD will be definitely competing for top DDR bandwidth honors with the current crop of *ntel DDR systems. Check it out:toast:
PS: Oh yeah..almost forgot...Fast CPU decode worked too at 226Mhz:D
EDIT: This is Corsair XMS PC3200C2 Version 1.1

[LORD]

Whoah!

That's some nice bandwidth.....:toast: ...
I've got to get some good ram as well. I hope sticks coming my way shortly will be better than I've had to endure recently.

Did you say no tearing at that level?

Anyway congrats. They're good numbers MrIcee. Could make for some great Benchmarking. :D

[majormav]

wow randi thats some clocking on that mem .... dont suppose you are going to reveal what mem it was ?

p:s you wasnt cooling it with liquid nitrogen was you (joking)

[Jeff]

Nice numbers there. ;)

[MrIcee]

Thanks fellas:)

There was "some" tearing booting up starting at 223Mhz. No tearing while in the Windows2000 desktop. At 226Mhz..bootup tearing was heavy but none once to the desktop. I attempted 227 and 228Mhz..but rather than a ram inability...I believe its the boards limitation to go higher at this time.

Due to my testing several sticks of ram...I 'm not going to mention brands until all my data is gathered...but this is no mystery stick by any means...everyone carries it;)

Randi:D

[SKATAN]

wow



was it stable for 3dmark???

[MrIcee]

SKATAN:)

I haven't tried to run 3DMark yet...but I believe that I'd have to drop back a couple Mhz to run stable. This is pure speculation at this juncture tho..so you'll have to wait until I start benching 3DMark:)

Randi:D

[SKATAN]

can´t wait to know which brand :cool:


MrIcee, what method do you use to burnin the ram , sandra?

[MrIcee]

Yes..I use Sandra and 3Dmark Loops individually. if truth be known..I really haven't burned this stick as I usually do:)

Randi:D

[UaZa]

Omg..
thats the highest amd band i ever seen
very impressive Radi :D

[MrIcee]

Addendum:

Just to tickle your fancy...this stuff is using Winbond Revision B chips @ 5ns:toast:

Randi:D

[Ewok]

u mean BH-5 same as all the other 5ns winbond?

I think its twinmos :p

[MrIcee]

Nope...not Twinmos....strike 1..LOL :D

Randi:D

[Entuscan]

my guess is the new corsair

[MrIcee]

Ummm..****stutter, stutter, flinch, and eye twitches****:toast:

Randi:D

[Nohto]

Is that the 256? If I read coprrectly and it was the 3200. Which is the same as the 3000 just ran under different test specs according to Corsair. They charge more for the 3200 than the 3000, but it is the same ram. How about the 512 sticks?

[Ewok]

how long is any ram going to last when sticking 3.22 volts up its arse? Im not happy about having to use 2.97 for this dtl crap just to get 190, but then my kx7 is crap cos itll do 190 at cas2, 4way, 3/6/3 enhance on, 2t access and 1t command rate, which is max apart from 3/6/3. and yet it wont even boot at 197 on the slowest possible timings, the boards gotta be a pile of crap.

[WinXP]

My Samsung PC2700 an Mushkin PC3200 at 217fsb at 2.85v. Not as good as MrIcee but not bad either. Maybe next stick will be Corsair.

http://www.geocities.com/winxp/217fsbcas2.html?1029371156824

[JAWS]

MrIcee what can I say? Your memory bandwidth score is one of the largest I have ever seen, if not the largest. I think I speak for all KX7 owners when I say thanks for all the time and effort you put into your reviews. I learn something new about my KX7 every time I read one of your posts. (mods, memory settings, etc...)

Thanks

[MrIcee]

JWS:)

Thank you my friend:)

I love this hobby and I enjoy having the chance and pleasure to test this stuff for our site, to its Xtreme limits. OPP and DDTUNG and myself have been holding the torch for all the AMD faithful for a long time....and will continue to do so, even as the Mhz chips have been down for us...we strive to develop every ounce of bandwidth and performance that these systems are capable of. I stand by AMD faithfully...and I can tell you...the time is almost here for the pendulum to swing back in our court for some benching dominance again....keep the faith and stay tuned:D

Next up fella's....a retail stick of OCZ PC3200 Revision 2, utilizing the same chips as the Corsair. Before you start laughing...hang on to your azz's...this stuff is looking good too...maybe the breakthru these guys need.I'll be back soon with some benches:)

Randi:D

[qwerty57]

WOW thats some fast DDR memory..I thought me scoring 2900/2700 was good. Then I see what you did and IM thinking I don't have a fast computer no more, lol. I was just wondering what this meant:


I also am using my normal WPCrset tweaks 6A=FF and 93=FF

also would me going from running 196 fsb(currently) at 2.5,3,3,6, , 4 way interleave, Enhance dram enabled, 2T Dram access,Que Depth 4 and 2T command to being able to run same setting but timings 2,2,2,5,2 help my 3dmark score at all? Im at 339/775 on My card and have 13k so far, but was expecting 14k.

[OPPAINTER]

Abit has some new Kt400 mobos on their site, looks like we need a few of those and some of the new XP2600s coming out, of course along with some of your killer memory there Randi:D
Nice work my friend:toast: The highest AMD benches I've ever seen:)

OPP

[sysfailur]

Vary vary nice! Corsair does make some kick ass memory. My xms3000 has run at 223 @ cas2 itself, but I had to pull back on the other timings. I'm going to run it in my brand spankin new KX7-333R along w/ my 2200+ and see what I can do :)

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by sysfailur
Vary vary nice! Corsair does make some kick ass memory. My xms3000 has run at 223 @ cas2 itself, but I had to pull back on the other timings. I'm going to run it in my brand spankin new KX7-333R along w/ my 2200+ and see what I can do :)

I have my KX7 installed. Gonna update the bios unless 9k is the newest... Running smoothly so far. Gonna start tweaking :)

[MrIcee]

9K is the newest my friend:)

OPP:)

Thank you my man:) Getting kudos from the guru himself is what its all about...especially since the prior highest AMD benches I ever saw were produced on your system:) This Corsair is very good...but does not like 1T command above 203Mhz. I'm not complaining tho...because this ram using Winbond revision B chips runs all the way to the KX7's FSB limit. This ram will go higher OPP..I'm sure on an *ntel DDR board you could go places:) At 226Mhz...the AGP tearing is terrible while booting....but none at the desktop. At 227Mhz..the PCI bus is so high it will stop at detecting my hard drives....not stop for any other reason.

And yes my friend....those KT-400 boards are needed now..along with the 2600+'s....I think feel some serious 3Dmark benching coming :toast:

Ok...heres my next memory up to bat...OCZ's PC3200 revision 2..which also has the Winbond revision B chips @ 5ns....starting and passing at 220Mhz

[sysfailur]

MrIcee, what has been your best score w/ the stock limited voltage of 2.85v. I'm topping out @ 193 @ max timings myself w/ my ram (in sig). I shall order voltage mod parts right now :) My ram LOVES 3.2v. Heh

And is this about where I should be at 193?

http://www.maximumoc.com/img/hardware/abit_kx7333r/193mhz_fastest_timings.jpg

[MrIcee]

Sys:)

I would say that looks about right. At 200Mhz with all timings maxed you're looking at about 3080-3090MB/s on the ALU. To be honest...I haven't used stock voltage in so long I couldn't tell you...but I will soon. This Corsair would not function at less than 3.1v at 216Mhz+ max timings 2T command. What I did was get into Windows at that FSB...then slowly reduce my mem VR until errors start popping up on the screen...thats the low voltage limit..and how I determine it at any give speed. Keeping it stable for benching is another matter..and why I had to run 3.25v at 216Mhz to successfully complete 3DMark at what I believe to be the highest AMD 3DMark FSB benching Mhz. 217 is next:)

Randi:D

[sysfailur]

Do you have a compare link to that?

[MrIcee]

Let me post it up..its on my bench system right now which hasn't got a nic installed..I'll grab the .3dp and publish it and post you a link my friend:)

Randi:D

[MrIcee]

Here ya go my friends...my first bench of 3DMark at 216Mhz FSB
15,050 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4226675) :toast: Prolly should be in the team section but I'm posting it here for Sys..I'm not done yet as I'll keep attempting to best that score...not too shabby at 2055Mhz(or for a 1700+XP):)

Also...heres the next step up for the OCZ ram 222 Mhz

[Entuscan]

Mr Icee, you wouldn't want to sell one of those sticks to me? the lesser one would be fine ;)

Should be ideal to get my 2.3ghz XP up kickass speeds :D


Damm i need good memory bad :(

[sysfailur]

Mmm I don't think it really matters if you post it here :P Very nice stuff! Btw, I just cracked 13k w/ my KX7333R on Winxp :) This board blows away my 8k3a+. :P

13041 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4226734)

I'm just having a blast w/ these Abit boards. :)

[MrIcee]

Entuscan:)

So far..there isn't a lesser one, as you'll see later on:)

querty:)


also would me going from running 196 fsb(currently) at 2.5,3,3,6, , 4 way interleave, Enhance dram enabled, 2T Dram access,Que Depth 4 and 2T command to being able to run same setting but timings 2,2,2,5,2 help my 3dmark score at all? Im at 339/775 on My card and have 13k so far, but was expecting 14k.

Absolutely will give you a MAJOR boost in scores. Running 1T command will also give Car and Lobby another big boost in FPS. You may need to mod the board and increase your volts to sustain those timings on the Sammy:)

Randi:D

[MrIcee]

Originally posted by sysfailur
Mmm I don't think it really matters if you post it here :P Very nice stuff! Btw, I just cracked 13k w/ my KX7333R on Winxp :) This board blows away my 8k3a+. :P

13041 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4226734)

I'm just having a blast w/ these Abit boards. :)


Ahhhhhhh..another converted believer:)

Excellent job Sys...nice to see you having success. If you take your time, learn the setup curve and play with the bios...these Abits really cook in the benches. And this coming from a guy who stood back and gave the 8K3A+ a try and fair shot...they are a great board but just don't bench like the KX7 is capable of. If you create another benching partition and put Win2000,DX 8.1, 4.37 4 in 1's and the 29.40 drivers on it....should pick you up 350 points over your best XP setup. When OPP converted me I saw 400 points in 3DMark over my best Win98 setup:)

Randi:D

[MrIcee]

Heres some more for ya Sys as far as the capability of the KX7 and a good overclocked vid card are concerned...these 2 benches were done at my testing MHZ when trying out new settings before blowing a bench at max cpu overclock:

1699 Mhz (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4227001)

1599 Mhz (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3649741)

:toast:

Randi:D

[qwerty57]

how are these??

sandra memory bench (http://hometown.aol.com/jason57570/index.html)


3dmark2k1 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4222399)

[MrIcee]

Originally posted by qwerty57
how are these??

sandra memory bench (http://hometown.aol.com/jason57570/index.html)


3dmark2k1 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4222399)


Impressive my friend:D Keep up the great work !!

Randi:D

[wheresthebeaver]

great work mricee,i really appreciate the detail u go into when explaining the way u o/c.im in the market for a new hard drive and i was wondering what u use or recomend that handles such a high fsb?ive noticed the seagate ata100 40gig are pretty cheap where i live but will they handle high fsb?i think my hd is the only thing holding me back,it craps out at 186 fsb.i would be happy with 200fsb.thanks.

xp1600 agoia02/17@1.9gig
KX7333R
256 xms3000
GF3 ti200
seagate ata2 30gig(ata 66) :stick:
swiftech mcx462a

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by MrIcee
Heres some more for ya Sys as far as the capability of the KX7 and a good overclocked vid card are concerned...these 2 benches were done at my testing MHZ when trying out new settings before blowing a bench at max cpu overclock:

1699 Mhz (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4227001)

1599 Mhz (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3649741)

:toast:

Randi:D

Thanks for all the info! And you're right. I did notice that the bios has ALOT more features to play with so I gotta get used to what each one does like I know have memorized the 8k3a+ and what works and what doesn't. But in any case, I'm very pleased!

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by wheresthebeaver
great work mricee,i really appreciate the detail u go into when explaining the way u o/c.im in the market for a new hard drive and i was wondering what u use or recomend that handles such a high fsb?ive noticed the seagate ata100 40gig are pretty cheap where i live but will they handle high fsb?i think my hd is the only thing holding me back,it craps out at 186 fsb.i would be happy with 200fsb.thanks.

xp1600 agoia02/17@1.9gig
KX7333R
256 xms3000
GF3 ti200
seagate ata2 30gig(ata 66) :stick:
swiftech mcx462a


My WD drives have never failed me ;) I'm running an 80GB for windows and I don't believe it's ever held me back.

[MrIcee]

wheresthebeaver :)

As Sys..I am using 2 WD Caviar 7200Rpm Hard drives..a 20 gig benching drive and a 40 gig storage and day to day system drive. It is very important on the KX7 to run off the Highpoint Raid controller if you are overclocking...in this fashion, plugging into it with your HD's will function as a standard IDE controller. It allows your hard drives to hang in there alot longer at Xtreme FSB speeds. If you have a standard KX7 without Raid..I'd recommend one of Promises add in PCI Ide controller cards....as they are designed to function flawless on up to a 66Mhz PCI bus.

Randi:D

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by MrIcee
wheresthebeaver :)

As Sys..I am using 2 WD Caviar 7200Rpm Hard drives..a 20 gig benching drive and a 40 gig storage and day to day system drive. It is very important on the KX7 to run off the Highpoint Raid controller if you are overclocking...in this fashion, plugging into it with your HD's will function as a standard IDE controller. It allows your hard drives to hang in there alot longer at Xtreme FSB speeds. If you have a standard KX7 without Raid..I'd recommend one of Promises add in PCI Ide controller cards....as they are designed to function flawless on up to a 66Mhz PCI bus.

Randi:D

Hmmm I was unaware of that thanks! And can you run CD-ROM/CDRW in the Raid too?

[wheresthebeaver]

i am running my current hd out of the highpoint controller because i did read somewhere it helps achieve a higher oc if your hard drive is the limiting factor.WD it is then,they are alot more expensive here but........... u cant beat quality.thanks guys:toast:

[Ewok]

Originally posted by MrIcee
It is very important on the KX7 to run off the Highpoint Raid controller if you are overclocking...in this fashion, plugging into it with your HD's will function as a standard IDE controller. It allows your hard drives to hang in there alot longer at Xtreme FSB speeds. If you have a standard KX7 without Raid..I'd recommend one of Promises add in PCI Ide controller cards....as they are designed to function flawless on up to a 66Mhz PCI bus.

Randi:D

Thats what I thought too but Im running my new WD 80gb SE on the standard controller at 191fsb without probs, and the bootup time is SO much faster after turning the raid off. I think the non raid KX7 (or maybe it was the KR7) has hdd problems above 165fsb but this raid one seems to be ok on the normal ide controller.

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by Ewok


Thats what I thought too but Im running my new WD 80gb SE on the standard controller at 191fsb without probs, and the bootup time is SO much faster after turning the raid off. I think the non raid KX7 has hdd problems above 165fsb but this raid one seems to be ok.

Yeah I've run this HD at blistering high speeds w/o probs... 220+mhz fsb w/o probs. Memory is what holds be back.

[Ewok]

least u can get to 220, after 3 crucial 2100, 3 corsair 2400, 2 kingmax 2700 and 2 samsung DTL 2700, I'm yet to hit 200fsb at any timings on this KX7 let alone 220 :banana: :banana:

[MrIcee]

Ewok:)

Unfortunately...the Crucial and Kingmax take , or on my system, took very high voltage to achieve 200Mhz...the Crucial at cas 2.5 and all timings relaxed, and the Kingmax the same except cas 2. But..on my KR7A it took 3.4v to sustain those speeds.

It wasn't until I aquired the CTL Sammy PC2700 that I was able to reduce to 3.22v, but bear in mind that voltage is necessary to bench 3DMark stabily without kick backs or errors...not necessarily needed for normal everday things..or Sandra benchmarks etc.

Even this new ram with Winbond chips needs 3.25v at the speeds I'm running it, to bench 3Dmark stabily. I can't wait to see the day we get some of those Sammy chips or similar on the Ti4600's @ 2.8ns for our system DDR...that will be the ticket for lower voltage high DDR overclocks:)

Randi:D

[Ewok]

so whats a SAFE voltage for 24/7 running ram cos thats all im interested in, for games n stuff. Never been over 3v, I thought this 2.96 was dodgy but im not going any lower.

[SKATAN]

Originally posted by MrIcee



Ahhhhhhh..another converted believer:)

Excellent job Sys...nice to see you having success. If you take your time, learn the setup curve and play with the bios...these Abits really cook in the benches. And this coming from a guy who stood back and gave the 8K3A+ a try and fair shot...they are a great board but just don't bench like the KX7 is capable of. If you create another benching partition and put Win2000,DX 8.1, 4.37 4 in 1's and the 29.40 drivers on it....should pick you up 350 points over your best XP setup. When OPP converted me I saw 400 points in 3DMark over my best Win98 setup:)

Randi:D


I´m this |-| close to get an abit :rolleyes:



guess who converted OPP ;)

[QuadDamage]

HI Randi, nice results you got there. now, this is what we need:

http://www.tbreak.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=104931

nice piece of hardware. btw, my XMS3000 does 218fsb@cas2/2/3/6/2T and fast cpu decode, but i get bad agp tearing.

[MrIcee]

Ewok:)

I've not run under 3v on any of my ram in almost a years time and have not had a failure yet. As long as you have have good airflow and cooling it should not be detrimental.

Quad:)

Thank you my friend:)
Indeed ...my eyes are on the KD7 Raid board. I hope the boards hit retail sooner rather than later:)

Randi:D

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by MrIcee
Ewok:)

I've not run under 3v on any of my ram in almost a years time and have not had a failure yet. As long as you have have good airflow and cooling it should not be detrimental.

Quad:)

Thank you my friend:)
Indeed ...my eyes are on the KD7 Raid board. I hope the boards hit retail sooner rather than later:)

Randi:D


And really I've found that even under extremely high fsb speeds and 3.2v my ram w/ it's heatspreader doesn't even get slightly warm! It feels like just chilly metal.

[QuadDamage]

hmm, my corsair xms3000 gets warm when set to run at 3.0V+ on my KX7-333. The HS on my stick seems to be glued hard to mem chips and i don't wanna try to remove it yet, cos it's the only good stick i own at the moment :(
my next target is to break 15k with AMD, but it's gonna be hard to get there. btw, i've seen pix of Epox KT400 based mobo today and can't wait to get either Epox or Abit and run some benchmarks.

[Ewok]

sysfailur u got a fan blowing at it?

i got an 80mm mounted on the edge of the case blowing towards the ram so its about 6 inches away from it.

Im running 2x256mb single sided samsung original DTL's.

I just tried 3.12v and 196fsb, cas2, 4way, 3/6/3, enhance on, dram access 2t, command rate 1t and fast decode and everything else on defualt. Failed prime.

Upped to 3.15v now with same settins, trying again :( chips are starting to get a bit warm to the touch now, not burning warm but pretty warm.

*edit* it did better at 3.15v but still failed :mad:

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by Ewok
sysfailur u got a fan blowing at it?

i got an 80mm mounted on the edge of the case blowing towards the ram so its about 6 inches away from it.

Im running 2x256mb single sided samsung original DTL's.

I just tried 3.12v and 196fsb, cas2, 4way, 3/6/3, enhance on, dram access 2t, command rate 1t and fast decode and everything else on defualt. Failed prime.

Upped to 3.15v now with same settins, trying again :( chips are starting to get a bit warm to the touch now, not burning warm but pretty warm.

*edit* it did better at 3.15v but still failed :mad:

Negative. No fans. Room temp of 66.6F currently, and it's usually 60-68 in here.

[2xD]

Woohoo, now that's bandwidth my dear.
yeah, you did it, you officially made me jealous :P

[sysfailur]

Randi,

I got a little something for you which might help you juice out a few more mhz on your comp. Now I dunno if you're using it already but here is SetFSB for the KR7A/KX7-333R/AT7.

Just open it and get fsb (http://www.maximumoc.com/files/setfsbU14a_kr7a.rar) , then set it! :) Who knows, maybe you'll get a few more. If you're already using it nevermind me :P And for everyone else if you want it feel free to get it. :toast:

:rocker:

[Ewok]

I give up this memorys just plain crap.

cant even buy new memory now cos id buy a single 512, but it looks like dual channel ddr will need 2 sticks to get best performance out of it so then id be stuck havgin to buy yet another 2x256mb sticks.

and my ram was getting quite warm at 3.15v even with the fan blowing towards it.

[QuadDamage]

i'll be playing around with my new custom made refrig. cooling device:) it was good choice to sacrifice that A/C unit of mine.

[MrIcee]

Sys:)

Thanks a bunch..and no...I hadn't been using that proggie:)

Ewok:)

I must tell you...I have not owned a stick of ram that passed Prime at high FSB 195+ with max timings. That is not to say that its no good either..as they have all benched 3DMark successfully at Xtreme FSB and voltage...but failed Prime. I use Prime to determine a stable top CPU Mhz...but not necessarily with the ram at mega FSB. I ususally raise the multi and lower the FSB. Once I determine a Prime proofed top CPU speed..then I reduce the multi...up the FSB and go benching other benches. I'm not sure that alot of ram...even great quality..will endure maxed out timings and FSB in Prime...but there are the few that do:)

Randi:D

[Ewok]

Im not even using max timings though. cas2, 4way, 3/6/3, 1t, enhance on. It wont get anywhere near 195 with anything faster. It bugs me a lot that with 1 stick using the exact same timings, voltage and everything else, I got 340fps in Q3, with 2 sticks it was 332 with identical settings. and im sure with 1 stick I could getit to 195 stable, maybe higher. Maybe the Kt400 will have decent memory controllers, the 333 certainly doesnt if you look at intels ddr setups.

doesnt surprise me you havent passed prime, you dont run a stable system, you just run as high as itll go and still pass 3dmark a few times :p

I have to have 100% stability or I get booted out of the middle of a game which is no good, so it must pass prime. So far prime has proven to be 110% correct when it says it isnt stable, its picked it up every single time, even when its only just been over the edge and I was only getting 1 crash after 3 hours of playing, prime picked it up. Lowered the speed, prime passed, not a single crash from then on.

I know the cpu is good for about 1810 so all the tests are done below that or itll be cpu causing the failure as much as the mem.

[MrIcee]

Wooo now...I didn't say I was not Prime stable. Just not Prime stable at xtreme high FSB and max timings. When I play games I do not run at 216Mhz....those are bench speeds. For any given CPU speed..say 2055hz at the moment as that is what I just benched 3DMark at with my 1700+....I am Prime stable at higher multi and lower FSB. But when you lower the multi and use aggressive settings and high FSB...that 2055Mhz is not Prime stable. Why?? I believe the ram cannot tolerate the stress induced..especially when you are running the agressive timings.

Randi:D

[majormav]

still randi there is an awful lot of skill(volts) and patience getting up to the speeds you are doing ........ god help us when the 400 chipset boards appear ( my tbred is waiting for one ) bet i dont get anywhere near but will give it my best shot

[Ewok]

hehe, my kt400 is waiting for its tbred :p

if it still wont do 200 on agressive timings then ill make it do it with my sledgehammer :D

[SKATAN]

you have a kt400?

[spaceboy]

this is my max ATM MrIcee
KX7 and winbond 6ns chip on noname stick (a-data) at 3.0v

quite instable right :D

http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/222.jpeg

http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/Immagine%20004.jpg

[MrIcee]

Very, very nice job my friend:toast:

Thats some great AMD bandwidth you're coaxing out of your system...and with some not really state of the art ram...truly impressive :)

Keep up the great work !

Randi:D

[Bravo]

Just an update.

I bought a stick of 256mb PC-3200 TwinMOS (Rev B -5ns), and this is what it did straight in (no burn in)

http://bravo.ausgamers.com/twinmos/220.GIF
http://bravo.ausgamers.com/twinmos/220w.GIF

2-4-2-5-2-2CMD Rate-DRAM Enhance-Fast CPU Decode @ 2.85v :)

[sysfailur]

2-4-2-5-2-2? WTF? Methinks you put in two too many.

Btw, nice stuff :)

[AKRedneck]

Originally posted by sysfailur
2-4-2-5-2-2? WTF? Methinks you put in two too many.

Btw, nice stuff :)

Sys, looks funny doesn't it.. I think he means CAS 2, 4 bank interleave, 2-5-2, 2T. :confused: ....duh! :D

[Bravo]

2-4-2-5-2-2 (Dram Access)-2 CMD Rate.

Its in the KX7 if you have a look :)

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by Sinnah
2-4-2-5-2-2 (Dram Access)-2 CMD Rate.

Its in the KX7 if you have a look :)


same settings as mine winbond 6n ;)
good stuff isnt'it ? ;)
go for 230 now ;)

[Bravo]

230 is too intense for AGP tearing, i tried changing the FSB in windows (through softKR7), but it dies when i try and close the program.

[N8]

Excellent bandwidth indeed, Randi!

Thx for the info on these sticks...been lookin for something that might top this samsung I've been holding on to...

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by Sinnah
230 is too intense for AGP tearing, i tried changing the FSB in windows (through softKR7), but it dies when i try and close the program.


does it run 3d mark at 220 ?or what is the max fsb it runs?

[Bravo]

I am not into 3DMark at the moment. I got the memory today, and wanted to see what she did out of the box. When i get a decent video card, i'll look at it.

I have tested 220 with prime, it failed outright above 1900mhz (was aircooled), dropped it back to 215, and she primes fine.

[spaceboy]

ok!!
i was interested in 3dmark for the stability of the stick !
as you can see i reach 222 with 2t but for 3d mark i go with 200 and 1t and some wpcredit tweaks!

at what fsb they max out with 1T command???

i ask you cause i'm considering an upgrade from winbond 6n to 5n like yours;)

[Bravo]

1T would corrupt my HDD at any speed over 185. I will probably spend a few days running sandra, but not now, need my system too much :)

[qwerty57]

spaceboy> I can tell you that my pc3200c2 xms maxes out at 207mhz at 2,2,2,5,1 enhanced and fast decode at 3.05v and will finish 3dmark the problem is at 207x9.5=1966mhz where as 200x10=2004 the second yeild better benchmarks for 3dmark.. my stick is the 2.1 rev. using 5ns winbond chips..

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by Sinnah
1T would corrupt my HDD at any speed over 185. I will probably spend a few days running sandra, but not now, need my system too much :)


thank you ;)

try tras @6

[Bravo]

Originally posted by qwerty57
spaceboy> I can tell you that my pc3200c2 xms maxes out at 207mhz at 2,2,2,5,1 enhanced and fast decode at 3.05v and will finish 3dmark the problem is at 207x9.5=1966mhz where as 200x10=2004 the second yeild better benchmarks for 3dmark.. my stick is the 2.1 rev. using 5ns winbond chips..

Your Corsair is Samsung CTL :)

Check it :D

[qwerty57]

How do i check it??

[Bravo]

Pry off the heatspreaders, or email Corsair asking for the module revision.

[qwerty57]

AAHHHHH, lol Im not doubting you at all I know sh*t about sh*t I just heard that somewhere I could care less whats under the spreader as long as It performs as it does..:p

[MrIcee]

Spaceboy:)

I don't care what ram you run on the KX7...you'll never complete 3Dmark at 220Mhz....with a Ti4600...and absolutely not with a Radeon 9700. I benched at 216Mhz which I believe is the highest ever on an AMD system....217Mhz would stop the Ti4600 dead in its tracks. Tho my bench was good at 216Mhz...I had far better scores at 208Mhz Cas 2 maxed timings 1T command.:)

Randi:D

[docah]

Mricee Your scores are really nice. I know my ram isn't nice enough to hit those ##'s but it is darn good.

My problem is that i have been unable to push past 200mhz FSB. at any timing, with any tweaks(that i know of). At 200 mhz i get occasional "Bios boot block error" messages and the system looks to the floppy drive for help. When the system posts all is stable untill the next time I reboot the system. I can never get a post past 203fsb, each mhz closer to that i get more frequent non-post errors. but if i can post it... i can run it. So does anyone know what causes the "bios boot block error" ? and if there is something i can do to get it out of my hair?

Edit: You know i JUST realised that way back when i was running a tbird on my KG7 you were the guy that showed me how to get my FSB past 143! :toast:

[Henry]

Mricee, how about Kingston PC3200 (Winbond BH-5 chip) ??
At 2.75v i can run 3DM2K1 @ 191 FSB (locked AXP1600+) with 2-5-2-1T, enhanced dram, fast timing.


14434 pts AXP1600+ / Ti4200 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4507101)

[qwerty57]

henry have you tried 200x10 yet??

[Henry]

Originally posted by qwerty57
henry have you tried 200x10 yet??

Hi Jasson :)
My cpu still locked, i'll unlock it this weekend :D

[qwerty57]

thats right duhhh. my bad Ive asked you that 100x's. LOL.

[OPPAINTER]

BumP

[cabojoe]

:eek:

[DDTUNG]

How's it going? It's been a long time!

DDTUNG:cool:

[Mace]

http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/macce/pics/232MHz.gif

Soltek SL-75DRV5 (VCORE and VMEM mods)
Apacer PC2700 256Mb RAM (Samsung '56' chips)

My system (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4585946)

[spaceboy]

:eek: :eek: :toast:

[sysfailur]

Holy smokes we have a new f*ckin champion!!! Good lord man!

[UaZa]

oh my god.. :eek: :eek: :eek:

:toast: :toast: :toast:

[Tom Holck]

My old rig

AT7 Athlon XP2200+ at FSB 233 Vapochill
but I my new setup Prometeia IT7 P4@3601 is faster.

Best OC regards

Tom Holck
Denmark

[kiko]

Originally posted by spaceboy
:eek: :eek: :toast:

soltek do u remember? :D

Ciao

[N8]

Tom Holck,

That image is a AMD memory bench?

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by kiko


soltek do u remember? :D

Ciao

we we..
cmq he is @ 2.5 2 3 2T..
i was at 2.0 2 2 2T at 223fsb ;)

U know i don't like relaxing timing too much (only 1T @2T)

bye

[qwerty57]

Is that It 223mhz :rolleyes: thats awsome I can get to 206mhz with fastest timings and fast decode but my cpu wont run at 2064mhz so I have to settle with 200x10 1950mhz using 206x9.5 just doesn't cut it for 3dmark, lol

[JDLT1]

http://users.adelphia.net/~jdlt1/mwave/220mem_3301_3016.jpg

Using 2.0 2 5 2 2T enhace mode on, and cmd on 2

[cabojoe]

:cool: DD...
Think I lost your email...lol. I'm great, still remodeling that house, and thinking of buying it. The DDWing is still running perfect in the vapo, no maintainence! Here's a couple links to an aircooled setup I built that I was gonna put on top of that EVA freezer deal until the deal fell through.
http://members.cox.net/cabojoe/Joecase1
http://members.cox.net/cabojoe/Joecase2
http://members.cox.net/cabojoe/retailhsf1
As much as I dislike the appearance of the Promethia (lmao), all I need is just a little push over the edge to pick one up this next month.
Icee...Way to go!
Greg

[Mace]

Originally posted by [N8]
Tom Holck,

That image is a AMD memory bench?

No is it not. Look others AMD based systems memory benches and you'll see that RAM Float NEVER is same than RAM Int. Holck picture coming from P4 based system or it's a fake.

[Tom Holck]

Your right!!

I check my pictures, the aktuel picture was from some Intel setup, surry. But still, when I had the AT7 rig it was actuel going 233 but not 100% stabil, and no sound. For now can't make a picture to you, The vapochill are mount at my Radeon9700.


Best OC Regards

Tom Holck
Denmark

[N8]

Mace,

I knew it wasn't, just didn't want to be too mean ;)


cabojoe,

Good to see you back here :P
You need prometeia & 2800+ don't you? :P
Skip the ATi card...POS's :)

[spaceboy]

http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/227.JPG

the shot at 230 is semi-corrupted :(

[QuadDamage]

just wondering how 232fsb cas2.5/3/3/3 can be faster than Mr.Icee's 226fsb cas2/2/2/2T fast decode, hmmm.

[Mace]

Originally posted by QuadDamage
just wondering how 232fsb cas2.5/3/3/3 can be faster than Mr.Icee's 226fsb cas2/2/2/2T fast decode, hmmm.

Maybe it's just mobo :thumbsup:

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by Mace
Maybe it's just mobo :thumbsup:

What made you choose a soltek? I haven't heard anything good about them at all until yours. :confused:

[Mace]

Originally posted by sysfailur
What made you choose a soltek? I haven't heard anything good about them at all until yours. :confused:

Excellent test result against others VIA KT333 boards and low price, thats it.

[docah]

I finally broke down and got a new kx7-333. (a newegg refurb for $61 shipped)

200 fsb on the second post. She's purring along happily 100% stable at 207fsb / 1866mhz. Absolutely wonderfull ! 2-2-5-2 enhance on 2T though. I'm tempted to vmod, but i think that was the beginning of the end for my last board. So i'm afraid to go for it again.

[sysfailur]

Just thought I'd do an update. I just pulled this on my 2400+.... I was using my gf4 and when I went to 224 I benched but then it crashed. I was around 2300/2280 I believe. I'll try it again later w/ a PCI card. I might be able to get around 225-226mhz. I'll be sure to post up. :) Always shooting for a higher score I am ;)

Rest assured, that I will obtain a higher score by tomorrow night. I'm gonna shoot for 3350 ;)

http://www.maximumoc.com/img/hardware/2400+/221mhz_mem_bench.png

[Mace]

http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/macce/pics/sanmem.gif

Now we talk about fast memory settings :toast:
Board and memory are same like before.

[sysfailur]

Jesus Mace, that's wonderful! Those boards must be really nice!

[OPPAINTER]

Mace,

What mobo and mem is that??

OPP

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Mace,

What mobo and mem is that??

OPP

He had said in a previous post.

Soltek SL-75DRV5 (VCORE and VMEM mods)
Apacer PC2700 256Mb RAM (Samsung '56' chips)

[DaSnIpE]

95 bit 1 for Halt Enable or not

92 bit 8 for STPGNT# Detect

I have 92 @ E8 and 95 I leave @ default

[Hausmeister]

Best thig I can do with my KD7 ...
at least it's stable

sisoft (http://www.8ung.at/teamlada/images/sisoft1.jpg)

[Hognert]

Im playing with my old KX7 right now :). Sure is a sweet board.

Found out CPU speed really does mather in the sandra mem bench ;)

Got this at 9*222 max timings

http://home.no/deadeye/1600+/sandra-9_222.jpg

[makatee]

MrIcee,
I've been checking back in forth in these forums for quite some time now, but finally became a member. I just want to congratulate you for all the xtreme stuff you do...You are my god...haha
Makatee

[MrIcee]

makatee:)

Welcome to Xtreme my friend :toast:

Well...God I am not but I thank you for your kind compliments. I'm happy that you enjoy coming to indulge in our "sickness"(as my friend JBell puts it:) ), we have many,many members that are very good at what they do. I hope we can continue to fulfill your reading pleasure:)

Randi:D

[Scyphe]

Well, seeing as people become active I just registered to the forum after being a lurker & reader for a while. And Mr.Icee, you're definitely a royal member of the OC's. :D

As with most other people I'm nowhere near the stuff you and other skilled OC's do but at least I've managed to unlock my XP 2000+ ;)

One thing is for certain, once you've been bitten by the OC bug you can never go back. Working with a non-OC'd system is almost annoying, the itch to experiment with the FSB is almost overwhelming. It's like a drug, always trying to get better performance and squeeze that last little piece of performance from the poor chips.

To all the pro's in here, thanks for showing the rest of us the way. :D

[MrIcee]

Scyphe:)

Welcome to Xtreme !! We appreciate you joining the site and becoming a contributor to the "sickness". The site and myself also thank you for the kind words. You , my friend, have been infected with the FSB fever..LOL...may it drive you to bigger hights and incredible bandwidth:)

Randi:D

[SAE]

Got a problem. You are the one that convinced me the Corsair 3200C2 is the way to go BUT I cannot get 1T command at anything over 187MHz. No boot. Just the long beeps as there's no RAM inserted.

I got the new 512MB XMS3202C2 V1.1 (I know the 2 is a misprint :D ) 4 days ago, and I can go straight to 226 @ 2-2-5-2-2T CMD at 3,...V+ and benches do really shine (in Sandra2k2SP1 with 100% RAM 1309/1452MB unbuffered and 5289 in PCMark RAM bench). BUT even with spd timings no 1t command :slobber:

My question: does a good burn in help to get him over 200MHz with 1t fastest timings or is it a waste of time. In this case I would RMA this one hoping to get a new one that does :(

[Scyphe]

Something is seriously wrong here.

1309/1452MB ???

I got that with my old celeron/pc133 rig! You should be pushing 2700Mb/s minimum.

[N8]

Scyphe......he's showing an un-buffered bench :)

Ya can't really compare them to the buffered ones ;)

[Scyphe]

Ahaaaaa....... Perhaps if I had been a little more concentrated on the sentence I wouldn't have missed it. ;)

Anyway, I did the same test after disabling buffering and got 1759mb/1101mb. Still looks weird since he's got a "hotter" system than mine.

Perhaps the RAM test is conducted in different ways in Sandra 2002 compared to Sandra 2003.

[SAE]

Originally posted by Scyphe
Ahaaaaa....... Perhaps if I had been a little more concentrated on the sentence I wouldn't have missed it. ;)

Anyway, I did the same test after disabling buffering and got 1759mb/1101mb. Still looks weird since he's got a "hotter" system than mine.

Perhaps the RAM test is conducted in different ways in Sandra 2002 compared to Sandra 2003.

Make sure you switched off mmx, sse etc for alu/fpu, the score looks much lower then, esp. alu. BTW I have tested 100% of my available RAM what means it takes a bit longer and score is a tad lower.

With my thunderbird I where near this score (1410 I think) but only fpu, alu was far lower. :)

[SAE]

Only at 1822MHz but not so bad, I think.

Isn't it? At 227,84MHz FSB 2-2-5-2-2T Cmd. :cool:
But worst AGP tearing in pre-Windows2k (bootup). What can I do to avoid it??? :D

[SAE]

Jup. At least it worked one time for me at 220,84MHzx8. Here is the link
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5038741 :D

[Scyphe]

Impressive work there SAE. I guess you're happy with the Corsair module then? ;)

[SAE]

Of course. BUT 1t command is NOT working :(

Thinking of RMAing it anyway

See above. And specs are as you know CAS2-3-6-3-1t command for the 3200c2.

Wanted to examine but things did not get better, in all 187MHz 1t cmd with every voltage I can fire it.

[MrIcee]

SAE:)

My apologies for a late reply:)

I had to do extensive burn-in on my ABIT board and raise voltage beyond standard spec to use 1T command with not only the Corsair but every stick that uses Winbond chips. These sticks were qualified previously on EPoX boards which have register settings which were much more relaxed than ABIT's. It took me 3.25v to run the timings you are running from 200Mhz to 226Mhz. To run 1T command in 3Dmark with max timings at 200 and 201Mhz...I had to use 3.39v to sustain it(an extra fan was added to provide addtional cooling directly on the ram). Remember..you are using a 512MB stick whereas mine is only 256MB. A 512 stick may not achieve the max timings as the 256MB stick can, but my suggestion would be to give it some more voltage and burn it in with Sandra for 24 hours or so more...then attempt 1T command at a higher speed.:)

Randi:D

Randi:D

[SAE]

Originally posted by MrIcee
SAE:)

My apologies for a late reply:)

I had to do extensive burn-in on my ABIT board and raise voltage beyond standard spec to use 1T command with not only the Corsair but every stick that uses Winbond chips. These sticks were qualified previously on EPoX boards which have register settings which were much more relaxed than ABIT's. It took me 3.25v to run the timings you are running from 200Mhz to 226Mhz. To run 1T command in 3Dmark with max timings at 200 and 201Mhz...I had to use 3.39v to sustain it(an extra fan was added to provide addtional cooling directly on the ram). Remember..you are using a 512MB stick whereas mine is only 256MB. A 512 stick may not achieve the max timings as the 256MB stick can, but my suggestion would be to give it some more voltage and burn it in with Sandra for 24 hours or so more...then attempt 1T command at a higher speed.:)

Randi:D

Randi:D

Hey Randi. I thought you just forgot me ;)

Found my limits in processor speed around 1830MHz, so I did run my machine with 8.5x215.35 the last days. That speed seems 99% stable. Can run 3DMark tests 20 times (batch) and no lockup etc. But 220+ is IMHO luck of the draw. BTW I already used 3.36volts to sustain a more or less stable 220,85x8 and also to avoid the nasty AGP tearing :D
U only get a stable 3DMark bench if you play with ur settings and e.g. via latency patches (take george's 0.20beta10). Moreover I did not decrease any PCI/AGP perf setting cause it was never helping me to stability indeed.

But even at this voltage I could not boot at 188 1T command. Also tried normal cmd dec and so on...
Did at least an 8hour sandra burn-in at every voltage increase.
But I thought it just did not like 1t. :(

Maybe the v2.1 would handle that. A friend of mine also ordered the same stick there and did not get it till now, waiting to see if his could get 1t on his kx7. If yes I will definitely rma. Seen too much peeps doing 1t command at very high fsbs that I won't get jealous ;)

SAE

[saaya]

5ns memory eh? :D

[Clintonthelegen]

Hey I know this is kinda not on topic but I just got a refurb KX7-333 from newegg and it seems to work fine. I have been hearing that you can get higher fsb easier on the raid version on the board. Is this true? Also what is the deal with the talk about the color of the caps on the board? Mine are greenish is that bad/good?

[fireandsmoke]

Clintonthedisgr,
Well everyone says the blck/green cap model ( I had one ) are the lesser overclockers. Mine did OK, like xp2200 at 2040mhz on air. Not bad...Stable at over 200mhz fsb!
Good luck
F&S

[NoStra]

Here an epox high FSB benchie...8k5a2+

http://www.fewture.cistron.nl/img/234Mhz3440.jpg

[Nohto]

A little off subject here. Do they have a set FSB for the KD7 yet?

[Liquid3D]

I'm almost afraid to disagree with a man who posted that kind of Bandwidth. B6 is the most recent (8/22/02) 9K was 06/05/02: www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/english/download_content.jsp?pTITLE=KX7-333&#Bios

By the way, unreal results, congrat's!
I'm not ready to unlock my 2400 just yet, however; I'm leaving my KX7 for a Epox 8K9A, which unlocks "B" version T-Breds in the BIOS (yes it's true.) :slobber:

[[H]AMDGamer]

hey MrIcee can you post some screenshots of thr ram timings on your BIOS screen because saturday when im off work im goin to put my CORSAIR PC3500 and my factory unlocked XP-2000+ Tbred into my watercooled KX7-333R and im gunna see how far i can push this baby!

[MrIcee]

Originally posted by Nohto
A little off subject here. Do they have a set FSB for the KD7 yet?

Check out this page and scroll down MaximumOC (http://www.maximumoc.com/setfsb.html) , you'll find the SETFSB for the KT-400 boards that works with the KD7. Just remember to also download the GIVEO.SYS file and place it in the SETFSB folder so the proggie works:)

Randi:D

[MrIcee]

Originally posted by [H]AMDGamer
hey MrIcee can you post some screenshots of thr ram timings on your BIOS screen because saturday when im off work im goin to put my CORSAIR PC3500 and my factory unlocked XP-2000+ Tbred into my watercooled KX7-333R and im gunna see how far i can push this baby!

Hi Guy:)

Before you do anything, make sure the volt mod is done as laid out in my guide in the Guides section. I needed 3.25v with both my Winbond chipped Corsair and OCZ 256MB sticks to achieve the results you've seen here.

I do not have that board installed any longer as I'm testing for ABIT and am frequently changing boards, but I can tell you all settings were maxed out as per the first post in this thread, except for command rate 2T. I ap0ologize that I can't give you a screenshot:)

BTW..that board will be up for sale soon if anyones interested, fully volt modded:)

Randi:D

[umekami10]

You might like this

http://hem.spray.se/umeimak10/epoxproject/sandramemory243.JPG

Epox 8k9AI
XP1600+ 8.5X
256 mb TwinMos
Win 98SE

[Hognert]

Aah Kami, the king of "crazy high FSB" :). Insane score as usual :).

[spaceboy]

8k9a2 ;)


http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/3630.JPG

[SAE]

But can U run 3DMark at those speeds?? Don't you have AGP tearing :confused:

I can now do 220,34MHz in daily use, play games for hours, loop 3DMark (latest run for about 8h +) and all without AGP tearing on my KX7-R at 2-2-5-2-2t cmd and everything fastest.

That's wonderful, and I know I can up my FSB any more :D

My first tries with this corsair were not as convincing as my results now, but now I was also able to decrease my VMem a little to 3,3V.

Next time I will be getting a TB1700+ rev.b and could even get higher scores. Esp @ Sandra CPU speed rules :toast:

Bye

SAE

[sysfailur]

SAE: Tearing in 3dmark? Hell he's getting tearing on his desktop... look! :P

[spaceboy]

it's not the tearing there
just my maxtor doesn't like very much that PCI :D


here u can see (better saved... §§§§ty scored :D )


http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/240_cpu.jpg

[umekami10]

spaceboy

Would you please check this page on amdmb.com . Especially my last post with 3D mark screenshot. As you see i got better results on 200fsb than 239 fsb...,Would you then check if you got the same phenomena in your board?

http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=176855&pagenumber=2

[SAE]

Not so bad, I think, but I can only run Sandra, PCMark etc. no 3D of course

But infact my lovely KX7 is able to show a nice mem score at 1845MHz CPU speed :D

P.S. tearing is very ugly ;)

[ztop]

8k3a+...........

http://digilander.libero.it/kiashan75/238.JPG

i can complete sup-pi a 227....but not a 238:stick:

[MrIcee]

Most excellent my friend, those are very impressive bandwidth numbers at a great FSB for that board. I also want to commend the efforts of all the other fella's who posted on this thread as you've all done great jobs pushing your hardware to the limit to achieve some astounding AMD bandwidth...my hat's of to all of you !! :thumbsup:

Randi:D

[ztop]

thanks a lot MRICEE.....i have cooled mi north with a wb....h20 7°....and i have 3,3+ at 3,9v at 238 of fsb....the limit is mi gf2....i'm working for 240 now.....but is very difficult:)

[B4E]

Good job Ztop... it's the maximum FSB I've ever seen on an AMD platform... I'm italian guy too!

CYA

P.S: I was forgetting...this is my first post heheheh

[ztop]

Originally posted by B4E
Good job Ztop... it's the maximum FSB I've ever seen on an AMD platform... I'm italian guy too!

CYA

P.S: I was forgetting...this is my first post heheheh

thanks a lot......:)

[sysfailur]

Wow! Nice bandwidth on that 8k3a+ ztop!

I geuss I'll submit my 221mhz KD7 score as I haven't gotten round to formatting the HD yet and reinstalling windows and trying for higher.... looks like either the HD or graphics is preventing me from going higher. Gonna try a diff. HD and some more graphics cards and see what works best.

http://www.maximumoc.com/img/hardware/abit_kd7/221mhz.jpg

[ztop]

nice score for your kd7!!

[LightningCrash]

lots of bandwidth in here guys ;)

[Caper]

8RDA+/2x256 Mb TwinMos

http://w1.970.telia.com/~u97006821/mem.jpg

[caspergt]

I can almost feel the 3 GB !!!

http://dragonballdome.50megs.com/2003 3d mark memory bench !.JPG

This with one stick of Twinmos 512 mb ddr ram PC2700 on an MSI KT3 ultra 2
And i cant get my FSB higher because my temporarily GF2 GTS wont let me go higher then 202 FSB at 202 is also shows strange colors at booting, how can i overcome this ?
I borrowed it but what the heck :D

[WyreTheWolf]

WOW! Amazing bandwidth! Excellent overclock!

a little OT but still something I would like to know,

I have a 512MB stick of the Corsair XMS PC3200 C2...
Unfortunatly, I can not take full advantage of its potential :(

I have no idea what chips are in it.. I have not removed the heat spreaders.

MSI KT3 Ulrra2 - R just wont get me there.

178Mhz is the fastest speed I can hit with this pitiful 1600+ (locked :()

What would the fine people here at Xtreme suggest as a replacement?

[caspergt]

you just got to unlock your cpu, els you will never hit 202 FSB
I did a voltmod to on my kt3 ultra 2 R, above 166 FSB my ram cant handle anything at ultra or fast only normal, think its a bug in the board, nut i saw at msi forums that there is going to be a 5.7 beta bios.
So maybe the bug will disappear and i can run on fast or ultra with 202 FSB.

C ya laterzz

[Lastviking]

To :Mace


:slobber: How did you get so high FSB?, What rev do you have,cooling,bios and mods(can you make some pictures on the board)And info on the vmods.


Edit :ops it was to mace :)

[caspergt]

You talking about me ?
I`ll make some photo`s with my digicam
And if someone has trouble seeing my picture go to this site http://dragonballdome.50megs.com/2003%203d%20mark%20memory%20bench%20!.JPG
I just have bios 5.6 and a volcano 7+ on my revision CE i dont know if you talking about me, so for further info mail me, i think i look like a jerk when mace is someone else :P