Gigabyte 1GHz HD 5870 Super Overclock

[onethreehill]

Gigabyte were showing a series of customized Radeon HD 5800s at CES, all based on an identical PCB (some components may differ however). While the cooling system is similar, it isn’t completely identical on the Radeon HD 5850 Overclock as on the two Radeon HD 5870s: the Ultra Durable and Super Overclock have an extra heatpipe. We don’t yet know the clocks for the first two of these but the Radeon HD 5870 Super Overclock will be clocked at 1000 MHz (GPU) and 1300 MHz (GDDR5). In comparison with the stock model clocked at 850/1200 MHz, this corresponds to a 17% increase. The 8% increase in bandwidth is more modest......
http://www.behardware.com/news/10667/ces-1ghz-hd-5870-from-gigabyte.html

[Manicdan]

i hope all these 1ghz cards is a good sign the 5890 (if it will exist) should be a solid 1200mhz core

[annihilat0r]

i hope all these 1ghz cards is a good sign the 5890 (if it will exist) should be a solid 1200mhz core

woah, no unless its a shrink. I mean, same core from 850 to 1200 sounds quite impossible.

[STEvil]

..... 2gb vram already darnit!

[Manicdan]

why not, the 5870 was built when yields were sucking at TSMC, whos knows what kind of clocks they can get out it.

[Etihtsarom]

Wonder if the 28nm showed earlier will be in 5890 or 6000 series. The gains will be massive with that shrink no?

[annihilat0r]

why not, the 5870 was built when yields were sucking at TSMC, whos knows what kind of clocks they can get out it.

If it being 850MHz had to do with yields sucking then I don't think it would be 850MHz but something lower. I think the current good yields / availability of 5800's were planned for 850MHz for the start but then something bad happened and yields sucked. It is now returning to its planned levels.

Etihtsarom: Yeah, 40->28 means two times the transistors in the same die space :eek:

[Chumbucket843]

why not, the 5870 was built when yields were sucking at TSMC, whos knows what kind of clocks they can get out it.

umm... power wall.rv790 increased power by 25% and frequency by 12%. if we assume similar scaling then a 1200MHz 5890 will use 250 watts. the power density of this chip would be so high that it would have to be water cooled.

[LordEC911]

Etihtsarom: Yeah, 40->28 means two times the transistors in the same die space :eek:
Theoretically...

[LightSpeed]

umm... power wall.rv790 increased power by 25% and frequency by 12%. if we assume similar scaling then a 1200MHz 5890 will use 250 watts. the power density of this chip would be so high that it would have to be water cooled.

RV790 increased power by 25%? over what? :shrug:

[BeepBeep2]

250 watt 5890 would have to be water cooled? The 299w 5970...oh wait. I'm confused.

:S

[Manicdan]

so much negativity, were seeing 150mhz factory OC on the first 1600sp built 40nm chip, whats to say 6 months from now they cant get 1200mhz

[LordEC911]

RV790 increased power by 25%? over what? :shrug:
4870's TDP... 150w vs 4890's 190w.


250 watt 5890 would have to be water cooled? The 299w 5970...oh wait. I'm confused.

:S

Well, he could be right...
250w from a single 334mm2 core, vs 294w from 2x 334mm2 cores.
There is more direct contact to the cores in the 5970 but less space for the fins, only 10% more area for 18% more TDP.
On the other hand, that's what heatpipes are for, plus I doubt the TDP would be 250w... more like 225-230w though I don't think we would see a 1200mhz 5890.

[Rock&Roll]

..... 2gb vram already darnit!

:yepp:

[Final8ty]

..... 2gb vram already darnit!

+1

[512-1024 limited sapphire version]3870, [512-1024-2048]4870, [1024- ]5870 WTF, still at the minimum mem end of this gen.

[[XC] gomeler]

Excellent, bring on the beefy HD5870s. Gigabyte Super Overclock and MSI Lightning, battle to the death!


i hope all these 1ghz cards is a good sign the 5890 (if it will exist) should be a solid 1200mhz core

lol not without a process shrink and even then I doubt it.

[Glow9]

super overclock 17% Yeah.....................no....

[JohnZS]

Such a shame that this card only has 1GB of VRAM... I was starting to get impressed with the specs :(

[HelixPC]

I cant stand gigabytes choice of pcb color..... and why only 1gb?

[NickF]

1200MHz would be a 41% overclock- now we are talking some serious thermal increases. 230-250watts wouldn't be too far fetched. However, assuming AMD could get some chips running at 1000MHz stock, which would clock up to 1200MHz, and a cooler and PCB design that could handle it, would such a product even have a place in a still fermi-less market? Even with fermi on the field, would it be worth the efforts to trump nVidias single GPU, when nvidia is going to have to seriously scale their dual gpu back because of thermals? That will leave the 5890 as the best buy, with an insanely hot under-performing dual-die fermi-based card scraping by just above it performance wise with a price tag high enough to end world hunger.

[Chrono Detector]

Nice to see higher clocked cards, as long if Gigabyte will design a good cooler that can cool the GPU chip down. And I've always liked Gigabyte's products and I want to see how this will perform.

They could have made the cooler look better, kinda looks dull and generic, but I like the fact there is dual fans.

[Behemot]

What's the VRM cooling like? As long as the overtemp protection automatically lowers frequency when VRM is overheated, this huge overclock is pointless without proper VRM cooling.

Similar problem with error correction and GDDR5...

[RHKCommander959]

hows headroom, core/mem voltage?

:shrug:

[NickF]

What's the VRM cooling like? As long as the overtemp protection automatically lowers frequency when VRM is overheated, this huge overclock is pointless without proper VRM cooling.

Similar problem with error correction and GDDR5...

Would be nice if one of these manufacturers decided to dedicate a heatpipe for the VRMs :p:

[Behemot]

Would be nice if one of these manufacturers decided to dedicate a heatpipe for the VRMs :p:

The digital VRM ATi uses from HD 4000 has huge problem with cooling because of so small transistors...but you're right, heatpipe could help, still better heat trasfer than with small aluminium heatsink :up:

I am afraid every voltmod since HD 5000 would need some extreme VRM cooling too...

[[NH]Woxxman]

Hey guys, just posted some fresh new details about the Gigabyte Super Overclock. Gotten hold of some detailed information from a product presentation that covers most of what we would like to know, seems like an interesting card with a launch date at around mid or late feb.

http://www.nordichardware.se/images/avabildarkiv/full/id_10792.jpg

Gigabyte HD 5870 Super Overclock (http://www.nordichardware.se/nyhet,17218.html)
Swedish, but lots of pictures and english version coming up later as well on NH.com

[zalbard]

Probably a waste of money unless this cooler really is much better.

[jaredpace]

I really really like this Gigabyte GV5870 Super Overclock. Vgpu measure points, Vmem + Vgpu control, Redesigned thicker PCB, hand picked GPU, Ultra durable VGA pcb + dual fan w/ extra heatpipe, cream of the crop caps, chokes, & board components.

Can't wait to see it go head to head in an overclocking shoot-out against the 12-phase dual 8-pin MSI Lightning 5870. Both cards shipping with 1000mhz clocks, it's going to be a sweet battle.



http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3122/image3php.jpg VS. http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/211/msir5870lightning01d.jpg

[[NH]Woxxman]

yeah they both look real tasty for some LN2 action. We got an ordinary 5870 to 1300MHz in our labs the other day, 3DMark06 stable. Not earth wreaking but not to shabby, these babys should be able to a lot more.. Now we just need to get hold of one :)

[Andrea deluxe]

bad.....

no memory heatsink on gigabyte......

[Manicdan]

bad.....

no memory heatsink on gigabyte......

i hope thats not true,

i really really want a 1ghz 5870 with 2gb of ram, and that heatsink looks pretty nice too, since i dont plan on WCing anytime soon. too bad it looks like another card thats only 90% of the way there

[Andrea deluxe]

i hope thats not true,

i really really want a 1ghz 5870 with 2gb of ram, and that heatsink looks pretty nice too, since i dont plan on WCing anytime soon. too bad it looks like another card thats only 90% of the way there

see here

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5616/gigabytesuperoc2.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/gigabytesuperoc2.jpg/)

[Manicdan]

^thanks for stepping on my soul,

in the other photo it looked like the ram at the very bottom of the card was exposed too. no wonder they can get 5-10% less temps

[jmke]

we all know GDDR5 gets extremely hot and without heatsinks it will overheat even running undervolted & underclocked!

[onethreehill]

What is Gigabyte GPU Gauntlet?
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/WebPage/vga_090911_oc/feature.html

[Rock&Roll]

What is Gigabyte GPU Gauntlet?
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/WebPage/vga_090911_oc/feature.html

Sounds like marketing for chip binning.

Of course, xfx can market GPU Gobblet, as they will likely be spending most their time drinking away their nVidia induced sorrows.

[jaredpace]

GPU Gobblet...

:rofl: :up: :up: :up:

[zalbard]

LOL, yeah, soon we'll have "Innovative Quality Control Technology (tm)"...

[ajaidev]

I am quite interested in this but i hope this is also not 8+8 like the msi Lightning any one have any idea on what the thing takes 8+8 or 6+6??

[Manicdan]

I am quite interested in this but i hope this is also not 8+8 like the msi Lightning any one have any idea on what the thing takes 8+8 or 6+6??

that shouldnt really matter, the idea that it NEEDs 8+8 does not mean it actually uses it. you can buy adapters that convert 6 to 8pin, and many PSUs now just have the same connector for both. as long as your not pushing 300W (very unlikely without watercooling) your psu wont blow up

[snoro]

who is talking about watercooling those card, that would be a sacrifice, they must run 24/7 on LN2 if not the owner must die and give his card to a true bencher.

[STEvil]

that shouldnt really matter, the idea that it NEEDs 8+8 does not mean it actually uses it. you can buy adapters that convert 6 to 8pin, and many PSUs now just have the same connector for both. as long as your not pushing 300W (very unlikely without watercooling) your psu wont blow up

The extra two pins are only for sensing the 8-pin plug as well anyways, no increase in electrical performance at all.

[Manicdan]

8+8pin on a video card is like a guy who stuffs socks down is pants.

[***Deimos***]

LOL you just made my day

[Leeghoofd]

If Gigabyte selected them ram IC's well I don't see an issue as the IC's seem to get some airflow, only one way to find out is to ask for a sample :p

[SocketMan]

The fans look angled a bit - maybe to cool the ram down ?
I wonder if this card has a voltage control.
Gigabyte does make very nice non reference cards,looks like this one is no exception.:up:

[onethreehill]

GIGABYTE HD 5870 SOC Hot Launch at CeBIT
Taipei, Taiwan, 22nd February, 2010 – GIGABYTE, a leading manufacturer of motherboards and graphics cards, grandly introduces a powerful new addition to its product lineup: the Super Overclock Series. All of the GPUs in this new range of high-end graphics cards have been cherry-picked for top performance, efficiency and reliability. Utilizing GIGABYTE’s innovative GPU Gauntlet™ Sorting process ensures that only premium GPU processors are used in these graphics cards. Coupled with Ultra Durable VGA boards, users can rest assured that the Super Overclock Series graphics cards won’t let them down when they step onto the digital battleground......
http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/gigabyte-launches-ultimate-super-overclock-graphics-card-series-by-gpu-gauntlet-sorting-process/

[mike]

What's the VRM cooling like? As long as the overtemp protection automatically lowers frequency when VRM is overheated, this huge overclock is pointless without proper VRM cooling.

Similar problem with error correction and GDDR5...



VRM cooling? :D Been playing with a sample of this for the last week or so and was shocked to see that there was NO VRM cooling on the actual card :eek::eek::eek:

But then I also noticed that none was needed ;)

Brilliantly designed card - I can only hope that the retail 5870 clocks a bit better than my sample! The default voltage / air-cooled core clocks were nothing special for me. Memory was cute however. With default voltage it did 1440mhz on air. With a bit of a bump 1490 was doable - and I am hoping under extreme measure 1500 will be in reach. Best thing of all - the voltage management software does the job extremely well. The card is an xtreme overclocker's dream...and maybe a nightmare for others :p::p:

[Chrono Detector]

So when is Gigabyte actually releasing this card? I can see another 5870 from Gigabyte that has the same cooling design as this "Super Overclock" card but the clocks are still the same.

[mike]

So when is Gigabyte actually releasing this card? I can see another 5870 from Gigabyte that has the same cooling design as this "Super Overclock" card but the clocks are still the same.

no clue on the arrival on the retail shelves - but I think the cards you mentioned share the same design of the SOC, and might be a winner too. Tempted to order one myself from the egg to check it out

[Kurz]

i hope all these 1ghz cards is a good sign the 5890 (if it will exist) should be a solid 1200mhz core

>.> Its binning thats all it is.

[onethreehill]

So when is Gigabyte actually releasing this card? I can see another 5870 from Gigabyte that has the same cooling design as this "Super Overclock" card but the clocks are still the same.
This card will be launched in the middle of March
If the clocks are the same as the reference card, it is not the Super Overclock model

[Chrono Detector]

Fudzilla has more info about this card, it is clocked at 950Mhz

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17890/

I want this card

[demonkevy666]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125316&cm_re=5870-_-14-125-316-_-Product

^ clock speed is 850mhz.

I was wonder if I could fit this but looks like I can't fit a 5870's :(

I only have room for 10.6" card.

[onethreehill]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125316&cm_re=5870-_-14-125-316-_-Product

^ clock speed is 850mhz.

I was wonder if I could fit this but looks like I can't fit a 5870's :(

I only have room for 10.6" card.
That is is not the Super Overclock
Super Overclock is GV-R587SO-1GD

[-Acid-]

http://tv.hexus.net/show/2010/03/CeBIT_2010_Get_a_grip_with_the_Gigabyte_5870


950 core 1250 mem

[HelixPC]

my 5870 has already been at 1GHZ for over 3 months now, the question will be how much further will these clock.

[dinos22]

I am quite interested in this but i hope this is also not 8+8 like the msi Lightning any one have any idea on what the thing takes 8+8 or 6+6??

i have both cards
giga > 6+6
MSI > 8+8

both MSI and giga seem weak on air cooling for core...RAM is better on Giga. GBT's HS is better than MSI in terms of load temps. These cards have been designed for LN2 benchers so that's where we'll see how they perform. I should hopefully have both fired up on LN2 soon......:up:

[mike]

i have both cards
giga > 6+6
MSI > 8+8

both MSI and giga seem weak on air cooling for core...RAM is better on Giga. GBT's HS is better than MSI in terms of load temps. These cards have been designed for LN2 benchers so that's where we'll see how they perform. I should hopefully have both fired up on LN2 soon......:up:

Can't wait to see your results.:up: I hope that for both models we'll see much better air clocks once they hit the retail channel!

I ordered aretail GIGABYTE GV-R587UD-1GD from Newegg yesterday so see if this model is the same design as the SOC - I have a feeling it is. Can't wait to see how that will stack up against my sample!

[Razrback16]

Mike - do you know what the stock voltage of this card is?